Championship and Covid

Realt Dearg Sec

PTH2009 wrote: »

1st round club games will be brawls

Lots of pent-up anger brewing cause of this lockdown

And there'll be a total lack of skill because nobody will have had a chance to get their eye in properly, so it'll be great for hatchet men generally.

Will be great to see the clubs get a proper run at summer unimpeded though, forcing them to play their most important games in the winter time has been destroying the game at grassroots level for years.

CBear1993

Who honestly let Dick Clerkin become chairman of GAA medical and scientific committee? Correct me if I’m wrong but the man hasn’t a medical or health qualification to be seen, check his LinkedIn.

He’s hard enough to listen to on tv without him dictating how the game returns. A very dislikable character

namloc1980

How do they propose running this championship if its starting on the 17th October?

PTH2009

Have to be happy with the proposals and it be great to have some sort of IC Championship

Jesus winning an All Ireland near Christmas would be something else

CBear1993

Agreed. Good news. Giving the “good weather” months to the clubs. Will be testing for the county teams in winter

PTH2009

CBear1993 wrote: »

Agreed. Good news. Giving the “good weather” months to the clubs. Will be testing for the county teams in winter

Yeah be interesting in that regard. Over the years some teams played better in worse conditions

Im guessing starting September 2020 will also act as preseason for 2021 with the leagues starting Feb 2021 (maybe the pre season cups will be scrapped for 2021)

Im guessing the structure will be pre back door with Provincial knockout then All Ireland series for the Prov winners and maybe finalists too

blowitupref

the full breakdown of the GAA plan:

From 8 June

Walkways only opened
GAA pitches to remain closed
All GAA buildings to remain closed
Individual training in line with Government recommendations
Gaelic Games Covid education module to be developed and officer/player training plan rolled out

From 29 June

GAA pitches to open for small group training (adult and juvenile)
All building remain closed (exception for toilets)
All training is non-contact in this phase
Small groups – 10 players or two coaches in a dedicated area of the field
Players arrive and depart togged out
Health questionnaire must be completed
Covid supervisor for each team
Underage players must be dropped off/collected
Only players/management permitted entry to grounds
Running, aerobic, agility, ball work – social distancing
No sharing of equipment like water bottles

From 20 July

Return to contact training
Club games from Friday 31 July
Buildings remain closed
Health questionnaire, Covid supervisor, collation of data still in place
Further information on spectators, spectator safety should be available at this point, will be issued to clubs as we get it

From 10 August

Club games continue (window with county players: 31 July – 11 October)
Access to facilities permitted, subject to social distancing, regular cleaning etc
County training resumes 14 September
Inter-county schedule to start no earlier than 17 October
CCCC will produce full fixtures schedule once

kksaints

Guidelines look good although I'd be surprised if spectators are allowed for the first few weeks unless case figures drop to zero.

seligehgit

John Horan interview with Mary Wilson on Drivetime re the GAA's return to playing plans.

He directly addresses the spectator issue.

Croker will likely have a 25% maximum capacity with a 2 metre social distancing in situ.

A number of stadia will not be suited to use for the inter county championship due to their layout.

The championship may run over into 2021.


https://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2020/0605/20200605_rteradio1-drivetime-gaareopeni_c21783321_21783325_232_.mp3

C__MC

Championship to go ahead as knockout so we think

Draws already made in football
Cork v Kerry
Donegal v tyrone
Knockout games to look forward to

Hurling draws will have to be made again
Although in hurling once you make a provincial final you get through to all ireland semi

This is what we are led to believe but could change

Either final to correspond with Bloody Sunday centenary

joebloggs32

seligehgit wrote: »

John Horan interview with Mary Wilson on Drivetime re the GAA's return to playing plans.

He directly addresses the spectator issue.

Croker will likely have a 25% maximum capacity with a 2 metre social distancing in situ.

A number of stadia will not be suited to use for the inter county championship due to their layout.

The championship may run over into 2021.


https://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2020/0605/20200605_rteradio1-drivetime-gaareopeni_c21783321_21783325_232_.mp3

Imagine the black market for tickets if the dubs were going for 6 in the final and the GAA could only sell 20,000 tickets.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Can't understand why the Government say that groups of 15 can train from 8th June once socially distant , yet the GAA say 29th June and even then only 10 people.
Are the GAA being overcautious for a reason ?
As an underage coach every week there's less and less at the Zoom sessions and we will lose kids even with that extra 3 weeks.

arctictree

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

Can't understand why the Government say that groups of 15 can train from 8th June once socially distant , yet the GAA say 29th June and even then only 10 people.
Are the GAA being overcautious for a reason ?
As an underage coach every week there's less and less at the Zoom sessions and we will lose kids even with that extra 3 weeks.

I was just writing a post with exactly this. It's like they released this just before the government changes. They are going to have to amend this plan because it doesn't make sense now.

patmac

Opening the walking tracks is very restrictive, only 4 hours opening per day with the first hour for over 70s. Also it has to be supervised, so volunteers needed, and all pitches cordoned off.
Can see a lot of people showing up on Monday being disappointed. Not a great start to the easing of the Restrictions by the GAA.

Loafing Oaf

C__MC wrote: »

Championship to go ahead as knockout so we think

Reverting to old-school provincial championships?

If they were determined to finish before Christmas, they should have a 32-team open draw

beggars_bush

A lot of rural gaa clubs haven't stopped walkers or put locks on the gates

beggars_bush

beggars_bush wrote: »

A lot of rural gaa clubs haven't stopped walkers or put locks on the gates

Most of them won’t even have stopped training.

beggars_bush

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Most of them won’t even have stopped training.

Not true.
No clubs training
Lads are out running or cycling on their own

BonnieSituation

joebloggs32 wrote: »

Imagine the black market for tickets if the dubs were going for 6 in the final and the GAA could only sell 20,000 tickets.

Season tickets to.the rescue again

BonnieSituation

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Reverting to old-school provincial championships?

If they were determined to finish before Christmas, they should have a 32-team open draw

That would be the dream.

Can do that in 4 weeks/5 weekends:

32>16>8>4>2

Class!

Maybe seed the first round so it'll be division 1 & 2 vs division 3 & 4 then open draw for the rest.

PTH2009

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That would be the dream.

Can do that in 4 weeks/5 weekends:

32>16>8>4>2

Class!

Maybe seed the first round so it'll be division 1 & 2 vs division 3 & 4 then open draw for the rest.

Would work alright for the football but for the Hurling i dont think so

BonnieSituation

PTH2009 wrote: »

Would work alright for the football but for the Hurling i dont think so

Well hurling usually needs a couple of backdoors and a play off between the losers of round one and the winners of round 3b. The winner of which goes into the AISF against the winner of the game between the Leinster winner and the Munster runner up. Kerry will play the loser of round 3b and go into a round robin with the winner of the 2nd round pairing between Westmeath and the other Leinster QF winner that isn't Kilkenny or Galway. The winner of that round robin plays Laois or the winner of round 3a provided they haven't played before in Walsh Park. And then Tipp play Kilkenny in the final. Simples.

patmac

beggars_bush wrote: »

A lot of rural gaa clubs haven't stopped walkers or put locks on the gates

Have you any proof of this? Any rural GAA clubs I know have been closed to the public despite not having any coved-19 cases at all.

mountgomery burns

They're not going to set a precedent without special Congress to have an open draw lads dream on.

Loafing Oaf

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That would be the dream.

Can do that in 4 weeks/5 weekends:

32>16>8>4>2

Class!

Maybe seed the first round so it'll be division 1 & 2 vs division 3 & 4 then open draw for the rest.

I think football is actually 33 'counties' (+New York, +London, -Kilkenny) - so I guess one preliminary round...

mountgomery burns

Are we looking at potentially the first instance of games having to be finished on the day? Or would they need another Congress to introduce that for championship also?

Or does the GAA management team have power over these matters?

C__MC

It's a shame county isn't back first
Not sure how appealing it will be the winter with weather etc and quality but sure it may do I guess

poppers

C__MC wrote: »

It's a shame county isn't back first
Not sure how appealing it will be the winter with weather etc and quality but sure it may do I guess

there would be uproar and rightly so if county took preceedence. 95% of players are club players.

CBear1993

C__MC wrote: »

It's a shame county isn't back first
Not sure how appealing it will be the winter with weather etc and quality but sure it may do I guess

Come on.. you actually serious?
Clubs have suffered for long enough, they’re only getting a championship but it’s still good to see them put first. Although with the 11 day turnaround between contact training and first championship game it could prove a disaster for injuries..

Next year normality will resume more than likely though- it’ll all be forgotten and county will rule the roost again.

kksaints

CBear1993 wrote: »

Come on.. you actually serious?
Clubs have suffered for long enough, they’re only getting a championship but it’s still good to see them put first. Although with the 11 day turnaround between contact training and first championship game it could prove a disaster for injuries..

Next year normality will resume more than likely though- it’ll all be forgotten and county will rule the roost again.

Its also probably easier to run the club championships as there's less travel involved and with mass gatherings of over 5,000 banned until the start of September easier to manage with regards to spectators and less financially damaging to the organisation as a whole. As there is the possibility of larger but still reduced crowds from September on.