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    #122
    Alun
    Registered Users Posts: 21,419 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    chinwag wrote: »
    Thanks for that Alun. The continuous rotating worked for me before but not this time. I'm a bit confused about your tricks to employ (automatic winders or electric toothbrush chargers) but I'd give anything a try to reboot the watch to make it work again. It used to fascinate me to to look at the watch restarting and correcting the time itself with hands moving around. I might enquire about a repair later on though unfortunately the trend these days is to dump and replace.
    Don't let your Seiko watches die!

    The automatic watch winders aren't Seiko kinetic specific, they're also used for conventional mechanical automatic watches too. The advantage is they don't get tired like if you're doing it yourself. I've even seen videos of where people have attached their watches to slowly rotating electric drills or screwdrivers :)

    The reason the toothbrush / tealight chargers work is that the little pendulum / flywheel mechanism in the watch is ultimately attached to a little generator, i.e. a permanent magnet moving inside a small coil in which a current is induced to charge the capacitor/battery.

    Placing the watch near an alternating electrical field, such as that produced by one of the chargers, will also result in an electric current being induced in the same coil thus charging the watch. It can be a bit of a fiddle determining the exact position and orientation of the watch with respect to the charger, but it can be done.

    Seiko even made a special charger for a while that you placed the watch on to, but these are very rare and if you do find a used one on eBay or the like they cost a fortune.


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    #123
    Filmer Paradise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    frosty123 wrote: »
    I've got a Rotary myself, bought it in Argos (don't snigger) got a lovely blue face with gold numbers.

    Where do Rotary sit in the prestige make table..Midway? Would they be on par with Citizen, Seiko, Omega and the like?

    Rotarys are nice watches. They're cheap(ish) everyman watches that serve their purpose well. Sekonda watches would be in the same bracket.

    My watch (Hamilton intra-matic) would be on the lower scale of 'prestige' watches. Expect to pay 6 to 700 euro.

    The Hamilton brand would be a notch above Tissot & a notch below Longines.

    Omega would be a bit higher as they are trying to move the brand upmarket to rival Rolex.

    Rolex would be the 'grail' watch for a lot of people, but there are brands like Patek Phillipe that would leave them in the ha'penny place in prestige terms.


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    #124
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    Filthy casuals.

    In the watch forum we argue. Mostly about Rolex.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1175


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    #125
    o1s1n
    Registered Users Posts: 34,426 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    893bet wrote: »
    Filthy casuals.

    In the watch forum we argue. Mostly about Rolex.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1175

    I thought everyone in the watch forum had reached the consensus that Rolex was overpriced gold tat for drug dealers and Omega is for real men of class and taste? :D


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    #126
    chinwag
    Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭chinwag


    Alun wrote: »
    Placing the watch near an alternating electrical field, such as that produced by one of the chargers, will also result in an electric current being induced in the same coil thus charging the watch. It can be a bit of a fiddle determining the exact position and orientation of the watch with respect to the charger, but it can be done.

    That's amazing! I must give it a try....if only there was a magic way of knowing if/when the watch is actually receiving the charge so you could leave it alone in a given position to take the charge. I'll be amazed if I get lucky when I plug in my charger and hunt for this elusive current :D. But thanks for your most interesting post.


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    #127
    Greyfox
    Registered Users Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    James Bond Junior wrote: »
    €7k would be for one of their standard models, they would be the main competition to Rolex.

    IMO anybody spending 7k or more on a watch likes wasting money. Rolex are also one of the worlds most overratted brands.


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    #128
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    In a way watches are similar to beer.
    The more it's advertised on d'telly, the more overrated it is :D


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    #129
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Greyfox wrote: »
    IMO anybody spending 7k or more on a watch likes wasting money.
    I never have, but it depends what you want to do with your money too. I mean people buy very expensive cars that never go above 100kph, others buy handbags and shoes costing eyewatering amounts and so on.
    Rolex are also one of the worlds most overratted brands.
    I'd agree. They have fantastic marketing and have since their foundation. They are very well made(well latterly, they were decidedly meh 20 years ago), but were always a mid tier "good watch" costing the same as others like Omega and Longines etc. Because they were all vying for the same customers in jeweller shop windows. Now they're pushed into "luxury" with prices to match and they aren't. They were never innovative either.

    The Swiss industry was caught on the hop in the 70's when quartz came along, well specifically digital watches. They had been pioneers in quartz(though you'll rarely see that in their advertising these days), but had no response to digital watches. This initially killed all their cheap brands and then went after the big names which went massively popular near overnight. So in the 80's they tried a revival on the back of the "mechanical as authentic" idea to men(women didn't buy into it). One group bought up a load of dead or dying names under the Swatch conglomerate, ironically using the huge amount of cash they made from selling cheap plastic quartz Swatch watches. Another crowd LMVH bought up most of the rest. TAG bought Heuer. A small number remained independent, but were influenced by the success of the rest.

    By 2000 they'd clawed a load of business back and started to push their prices up and up and up on the back of marketing and brand positioning. Put it this way Omega's Speedmaster "the watch worn on the Moon" cost under an average months wages when men were actually wearing them on the Moon. Today they cost five, six times that, ten times that for their "special editions". When Sean Connery wore a Rolex Submariner as James Bond, again they were under a month's wages, now.... see above and add more on top. They went from tool watches with a purpose, with a sideorder of jewellery to almost entirely aspirational jewellery for men. Which is fine and fair play, but they are most definitely overpriced. Joke is they were more expensive to produce in the old days and were more hand made too. Though if people will pay...

    Still, the Apple watch alone on a yearly basis has sales that dwarfs the entire Swiss industry.

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    #130
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Starting to wonder if this whole thread is a wind-up......


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    #131
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users Posts: 10,527 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    Starting to wonder if this whole thread is a wind-up......

    Just have to take it at face value.

    The tide is turning…



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    #132
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    Starting to wonder if this whole thread is a wind-up......

    no, but this is ...hand-wind actually :D

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    #133
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,289 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    daily wear is a citizen ecodrive
    working i the garden watch is a casio

    a gold longine my parents bought me when i graduated

    my fathers gold omega i got when he passed away

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #134
    Church on Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I always wear one. Last year during lockdown, I started getting into watches a lot more and considered splurging, but settled on a somewhat difficult to acquire Seiko instead. I failed twice to get it delivered to Vietnam so got a Casio a159 instead, which I've ended up loving far more than I expected. It gets a surprising amount of compliments, I guess because it's cheap and cheerful. Never wear any other watch anymore.

    At the moment, I have my eye on this watch as a first automatic. It's in stock in a shop here in VN and it's only $200. Not sure I'd wear it all that much instead of the Casio, though.

    Casio are a great watch brand with heritage, I'm actually wearing the same watch as you as I type, great for starting a collection which won't break the bank. Have a F 91W on the way too for 9 quid off of Amazon :D


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    #135
    Vestiapx
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I never have, but it depends what you want to do with your money too. I mean people buy very expensive cars that never go above 100kph, others buy handbags and shoes costing eyewatering amounts and so on. I'd agree. They have fantastic marketing and have since their foundation. They are very well made(well latterly, they were decidedly meh 20 years ago), but were always a mid tier "good watch" costing the same as others like Omega and Longines etc. Because they were all vying for the same customers in jeweller shop windows. Now they're pushed into "luxury" with prices to match and they aren't. They were never innovative either.

    The Swiss industry was caught on the hop in the 70's when quartz came along, well specifically digital watches. They had been pioneers in quartz(though you'll rarely see that in their advertising these days), but had no response to digital watches. This initially killed all their cheap brands and then went after the big names which went massively popular near overnight. So in the 80's they tried a revival on the back of the "mechanical as authentic" idea to men(women didn't buy into it). One group bought up a load of dead or dying names under the Swatch conglomerate, ironically using the huge amount of cash they made from selling cheap plastic quartz Swatch watches. Another crowd LMVH bought up most of the rest. TAG bought Heuer. A small number remained independent, but were influenced by the success of the rest.

    By 2000 they'd clawed a load of business back and started to push their prices up and up and up on the back of marketing and brand positioning. Put it this way Omega's Speedmaster "the watch worn on the Moon" cost under an average months wages when men were actually wearing them on the Moon. Today they cost five, six times that, ten times that for their "special editions". When Sean Connery wore a Rolex Submariner as James Bond, again they were under a month's wages, now.... see above and add more on top. They went from tool watches with a purpose, with a sideorder of jewellery to almost entirely aspirational jewellery for men. Which is fine and fair play, but they are most definitely overpriced. Joke is they were more expensive to produce in the old days and were more hand made too. Though if people will pay...

    Still, the Apple watch alone on a yearly basis has sales that dwarfs the entire Swiss industry.

    Sorry W but how much is a basic speedy and how much is a average months wages ? Your maybe a little off on the omega inflation by my guess.

    https://weirandsons.ie/omega-gents-speedmaster-professional-black-leather-strap-manual-watch.html

    Not so with rolex tho. I picked up a speedy in 2008 in Tenerife for 3k they also had rolexes just sitting there in the window that you could buy. I don't remember how much the Daytona was but I knew it was beautiful and now I've got over the whole del boy image that stopped me from getting one the price and avaavikitg mean I'll probably never justify one.


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    #136
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Church on Tuesday wrote: »
    Casio are a great watch brand with heritage,

    for calculators and keyboards, but watches???


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    #137
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Vestiapx wrote: »
    Sorry W but how much is a basic speedy and how much is a average months wages ? Your maybe a little off o n the omega inflation by my guess.

    https://weirandsons.ie/omega-gents-speedmaster-professional-black-leather-strap-manual-watch.html
    Actually sorry yeah, I am V, by Irish wages alright. I was going more on US wages across both. So the average wage here is what 35000 odd per month? So basically 3000 a monthish. So now the basic Speedy is what one and a half month's wages? So it's more like three times the price in Ireland that it was when Moonwalker's were about. I noted this bit in their blurb: At the heart of this chronograph is OMEGA’s mechanical calibre 1861, the legendary manual-winding movement worn on the Moon. The original Speedy movement was the Lemania based 321. That was the one tested first for spaceflight and as far as I'm aware that while the 861 was passed for flight later, only the 321 made it to the moon. The 321 was the superior movement with it(column wheel chronograph), though the 861 was cheaper to produce. I'd still say the Speedmaster makes for a great "lifetime watch".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #138
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    fryup wrote: »
    for calculators and keyboards, but watches???
    The G-Shock. A fantastic innovation that revolutionised the notion of toughness in the wristwatch and made it available to all. The original brief was to have a battery life of ten years, be able to take 10 atmospheres of pressure and survive a drop from 10 metres. They've since exceeded the pressure and impact limits.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #139
    Church on Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    fryup wrote: »
    for calculators and keyboards, but watches???

    Absolutely. Good heritage brand and well made. Nice range from budget iconic (F 91 W and it's many spin offs) watches to more higher level watches. Something for everyone really.


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    #140
    Filmer Paradise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    Church on Tuesday wrote: »
    Absolutely. Good heritage brand and well made. Nice range from budget iconic (F 91 W and it's many spin offs) watches to more higher level watches. Something for everyone really.

    F91W is a legend amongst watches. A throwaway legend, but a legend nonetheless.

    I have one in my little 'collection'.


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    #141
    Vestiapx
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Filmer Paradise wrote: »
    F91W is a legend amongst watches. A throwaway legend, but a legend nonetheless.

    I have one in my little 'collection'.

    Put one on a red NATO on my youngfella as soon as he asked about one of my watches.
    I've a square g on a matching strap so we can be watch buddies.


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    #142
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    I haven't worn one since 2003 or 2004. I bought one of those TV remote control watches so I can change the channel on my neighbours TVs. We could only reach one TV but we had a lot of fun with this guy. He thought his TV or his remote control was faulty.


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    #143
    Gorteen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Have worn a watch since my confirmation! First watch was a Timex which was a gift from my parents.

    I have three watches. G-Shock for outdoor stuff, my good watch is a Breitling watch which was a present to myself and I've inherited a Fitbit smart watch from my son who got an Apple watch for Christmas.

    Cannot imagine not wearing a watch


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    #144
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I thought everyone in the watch forum had reached the consensus that Rolex was overpriced gold tat for drug dealers and Omega is for real men of class and taste? :D

    Not quite....have you seen the Omega RRP these days.......then case your eye on the second hand values...



    I wear a watch always. Exempt when I am making love.

    So basically I have not taken a watch off in ten years.

    Just joking.

    I also don’t wear it when I shower.


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    #145
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    Also this thread is pointless without pics. Wearing this for the last ten days or so. Badly due a rotation this weekend.

    EB7-ED74-B-9127-4-E80-AFB5-ED18-DCFEE338.jpgexotic names


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    #146
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    For the uninitiated, AKA normal people :D That A Lange & Sohne is akin to pornography for watch nerds.

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    #147
    LenWoods
    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    I used to wear a watch all the time,
    until 12 years ago our daughter came in to the world and i got her name written on my arm from inner elbow to wrist which was the length she used to be in my arms, around the same height as a 500ml bottle of coke,
    I haven't worn a watch since getting the tattoo,
    she's 5ft 9 now and still getting taller lol


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    #148
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    893bet, that's not fair. Hard to follow that...


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    #149
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    This today, pilot's chronograph from the late 1960's.
    545142.jpg
    Most were issued to pilots in the German airforce back then flying yokes like this:
    4b7cc9411caec5cf15b9d4f2101bd2fa.jpg

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #150
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    893bet wrote: »
    Also this thread is pointless without pics. Wearing this for the last ten days or so. Badly due a rotation this weekend.

    EB7-ED74-B-9127-4-E80-AFB5-ED18-DCFEE338.jpgexotic names

    Oh my word....


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    #151
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,292 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Yes I do


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