Amber Heard admits to beating up Johnny Depp

silverharp · 05-02-2020 10:50am

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't believe we should be encouraging this "cancel culture", since it's something that can easily be applied badly (which it has). Her personal life should be separate from her career.

By all means, voice a disapproval of such behavior, but I really don't like this mob mentality. It's one of the reasons the internet has turned all nasty, and justifies the behavior of the SJWs/feminists in targeting those they don't approve of.

well that horse has bolted and while I don’t agree with cancel culture its more a bit of schadenfreude to see it happen in this case, its one of those “they are eating their own”

05-02-2020 11:34am

silverharp wrote: »

well that horse has bolted and while I don’t agree with cancel culture its more a bit of schadenfreude to see it happen in this case, its one of those “they are eating their own”

I don't agree. Cancel culture was growing for some time driven by SJWs/Internet personalities, but a resistance has been growing to it for some time now. I'd rather that we didn't expand on it's usage out from the SJWs and eventually it'll be dropped as an unsuitable set of behavior.

“they are eating their own”... true enough... I enjoy seeing it too because it reinforces and highlights the double standards..

Ray Palmer · 05-02-2020 12:02pm

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

Sorry what? Do you mean drunk ? It's still not rape, rape requires penetration by the little pianist

That is a very narrow definition of rape. One which I don't agree with and neither does the law in many places. If you have consensual sex with a person but it was due to deception it is classed as rape in some place. You also have statutory rape.

Men have reflexes so it isn't all about conscious desire so can be raped by women whether laws here say so or not.

creditcarder · 05-02-2020 12:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't agree. Cancel culture was growing for some time driven by SJWs/Internet personalities, but a resistance has been growing to it for some time now. I'd rather that we didn't expand on it's usage out from the SJWs and eventually it'll be dropped as an unsuitable set of behavior.

“they are eating their own”... true enough... I enjoy seeing it too because it reinforces and highlights the double standards..

It could be argued that the cancel culture is ending because the people who are doing it (losers tbh) are being affected by it due to different people competing. (E.g. A sad story about a cute Asain lady having to change her book because it didn't depict slavery properly in regards to African Americans...the book was about slavery in Asai)

So, actually, if you reverse what is going on, it could lead to these losers being a little bit more careful about making accusations of racism/sexism/so on and so forth.

creditcarder · 05-02-2020 12:20pm

Ray Palmer wrote: »

That is a very narrow definition of rape. One which I don't agree with and neither does the law in many places. If you have consensual sex with a person but it was due to deception it is classed as rape in some place. You also have statutory rape.

Men have reflexes so it isn't all about conscious desire so can be raped by women whether laws here say so or not.

The study is dumb. It uses the same definitions that a lot of the rape statistics are based upon, but it is useful to highlight how absurd things have gotten.

As in, if a guy doesn't explicetly say 'consent', even if he is being rode on like an elephant on a bycicle, he is technically 'raped'.

Ray Palmer · 05-02-2020 2:00pm

creditcarder wrote: »

The study is dumb. It uses the same definitions that a lot of the rape statistics are based upon, but it is useful to highlight how absurd things have gotten.

As in, if a guy doesn't explicetly say 'consent', even if he is being rode on like an elephant on a bycicle, he is technically 'raped'.

What study?

There is no talk of explicit consent like you are suggesting. In most people's minds they acknowledge a man can have an erection and a women can have sex with a person without their consent. In other words rape. To deny that is possible and has happened is worrying

tritium · 05-02-2020 3:01pm

pinkyeye wrote: »

What's the COSCs? And where is the back up for this? I don't believe it.

Cosc are The National Office for the Prevention of Domestic, Sexual and Gender based violence (www.cosc.ie), a government body with responsibility for this. The results are based on extensive research carried out by them some years ago.

I believe this was the first time an Irish study had included the idea that men could be victims/ women abusers (anecdotally I believe it wasn’t well received in some quarters). However the number broadly agree with other research internationally

creditcarder · 05-02-2020 4:32pm

Ray Palmer wrote: »

What study?

There is no talk of explicit consent like you are suggesting. In most people's minds they acknowledge a man can have an erection and a women can have sex with a person without their consent. In other words rape. To deny that is possible and has happened is worrying

What do you mean?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 05-02-2020 8:38pm

silverharp wrote: »

well that horse has bolted and while I don’t agree with cancel culture its more a bit of schadenfreude to see it happen in this case, its one of those “they are eating their own”

Right but you’re either for cancel culture or against it. And if you’re against it, shouldn’t you be consistent? As already said, it’s something that could quickly become quite sinister.

silverharp · 05-02-2020 9:53pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Right but you’re either for cancel culture or against it. And if you’re against it, shouldn’t you be consistent? As already said, it’s something that could quickly become quite sinister.

well it will only end when it happens to enough of the enlightened folk. Alot of cancel culture revolves around someone saying something possibly years ago on twitter so it tends to be petty. On the other hand I have no problem with rapists/molesters etc being "cancelled", she isn't far off that imo.

05-02-2020 10:36pm

creditcarder wrote: »

It could be argued that the cancel culture is ending because the people who are doing it (losers tbh) are being affected by it due to different people competing. (E.g. A sad story about a cute Asain lady having to change her book because it didn't depict slavery properly in regards to African Americans...the book was about slavery in Asai)

You can argue from any angle, although, personally, I'd argue that it's the Youtube personalities with decent followings calling out and promoting this negative behavior for what it represents.... is what's decreasing the appeal of doing it. Cancel culture feeds on a echo chamber of support. When there's hundreds of thousands of people coming on to your twitter account to say your behavior is despicable, it's hard to maintain a holier than thou attitude.

So, actually, if you reverse what is going on, it could lead to these losers being a little bit more careful about making accusations of racism/sexism/so on and so forth.

Which is the logic behind reverse racism or reverse sexism. Nope. I don't buy it. Racism is wrong. Sexism is wrong. Cancel culture is wrong. All of which should be stamped out without resorting to imitating it... why? Because the behavior itself is wrong.

tdf7187 · 25-06-2020 1:28pm

Further update, fwiw.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8456747/Prominent-MeToo-activist-Amanda-Cadenet-drops-support-Amber-Heard.html

Loafing Oaf · 08-07-2020 10:16pm

Seems like they're airing their dirty linen in a big way at this libel trial:p

I decided to divorce Amber Heard when she defecated in our bed

Standman · 09-07-2020 11:55am

It's pretty clear who the real victim is in this once you hear the tapes, see the videos and read witness testimony. Just read the statement from Amber Heard's former personal assistant to get an idea of what kind of person she is. Shocking that Heard is continuing down this path.

Muahahaha · 09-07-2020 7:51pm

It definitely sounded like a crazy relationship going by whats come out at the trial. She threw a glass bottle at him, cut his finger and then he went writing his blood on the walls. TV and windows were smashed with 70k worth of damage. Id say that was some hangover for both of them.

retro:electro · 09-07-2020 8:02pm

Standman wrote: »

It's pretty clear who the real victim is in this once you hear the tapes, see the videos and read witness testimony. Just read the statement from Amber Heard's former personal assistant to get an idea of what kind of person she is. Shocking that Heard is continuing down this path.

None of them are coming across well to be honest. The only winners in all of this will be their lawyers

Ultrflat · 09-07-2020 8:06pm

They sound about a compatible as to plugs.

take everything · 09-07-2020 8:17pm

retro:electro wrote: »

None of them are coming across well to be honest. The only winners in all of this will be their lawyers

Heard is the one who did stuff to Depp.
Depp, from what I've read, is the one having had stuff done to him.

Why should he be lumped in with her when he did nothing to her.

Tork · 09-07-2020 8:20pm

Me eyes are out on stalks after reading all of that! Neither of them is coming out well from this. She sounds like a right psycho and he needs to lay off the drugs.

lsjmhar · 09-07-2020 8:22pm

Ultrflat wrote:

They sound about a compatible as to plugs.

Great quote!! Shakespeare?

JP Liz V1 · 09-07-2020 8:24pm

She is still a L'oreal spokesperson

retro:electro · 09-07-2020 9:15pm

take everything wrote: »

Heard is the one who did stuff to Depp.
Depp, from what I've read, is the one having had stuff done to him.

Why should he be lumped in with her when he did nothing to her.

I don’t know about that. I think it sounds like an extremely volatile and toxic relationship from both sides. Having said that, he at least is open and admitting of his faults and demons. He has had a lot of his past laid bare but I guess it’s not his character on trial but a question of whether or not he raised his hand to her. And I guess he has no reason to lie when he has been so open about a lot of his past. She does seem particularly calculating but I do think it was a relationship that brought out the very worst in both of them.

gmisk · 09-07-2020 9:18pm

Riflecreek wrote: »

From the studies I've seen, if a woman claims to be the victim if domestic abuse, chances are she was also abusing her partner.

Right........what studies would those be?

suicide_circus · 09-07-2020 9:20pm

She's super hot and super crazy

Church on Tuesday · 09-07-2020 9:21pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

She's super hot and super crazy

She's super unpleasant and super vile.

Beechwoodspark · 09-07-2020 9:26pm

I knew JD was a drugged up mess but heard is not much better

suicide_circus · 09-07-2020 9:27pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

She's super unpleasant and super vile.

demented in the sack tho

Gremlinertia · 09-07-2020 9:30pm

Reopened after some housekeeping, stay on topic please

Muahahaha · 12-07-2020 9:00pm

take everything wrote: »

Heard is the one who did stuff to Depp.
Depp, from what I've read, is the one having had stuff done to him.

Why should he be lumped in with her when he did nothing to her.

Dunno about that, they showed evidence on Friday with her having a couple of black eyes.

He also alleges she shat in his bed. Theres a pair of them in it by the looks of it to me.

JP Liz V1 · 12-07-2020 9:03pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Dunno about that, they showed evidence on Friday with her having a couple of black eyes.

He also alleges she shat in his bed. Theres a pair of them in it by the looks of it to me.

Maybe she mis heard jump street for dump street

12-07-2020 9:15pm

Standman wrote: »

It's pretty clear who the real victim is in this once you hear the tapes, see the videos and read witness testimony. Just read the statement from Amber Heard's former personal assistant to get an idea of what kind of person she is. Shocking that Heard is continuing down this path.

take everything wrote: »

Heard is the one who did stuff to Depp.
Depp, from what I've read, is the one having had stuff done to him.

Why should he be lumped in with her when he did nothing to her.

Are we just skipping over the part where Depp refers to them physically assaulting one another?

I don't know, it just feels like aspects of the thread are some kind of backlash against the attention that is given to domestic violence against women. It's probably fair to say the coverage is often unbalanced, but I don't think the tapes (or the testimony at the trial) absolves Depp of using violence (or of being a bit of a nutter, not that that's a crime).

Jurgen Klopp · 12-07-2020 9:38pm

She's lucky it was Depp and not Sean Connery in his prime!

Silentcorner · 12-07-2020 9:39pm

Amber Turd....gonna be hard to find a pr firm that can get her out of that one!!!

Wanderer78 · 12-07-2020 9:39pm

Pair of them in it, she sounds borderline though

Eduard Khil · 12-07-2020 9:45pm

Its like a Wes Anderson script so far for a libel trial it's thrown out more dirt than Jerry Springer.

Earthhorse · 12-07-2020 11:29pm

Wes Craven, I think you mean.

fergiesfolly · 13-07-2020 12:14am

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

She's lucky it was Depp and not Sean Connery in his prime!

The same Connery who thought giving his wife a slap was ok.
Ignorant post. And to those who thanked it...WTF

13-07-2020 2:02am

There is no doubt a pair of them in it but for reasons I can't quite explain I'd be more wary of meeting Amber Heard than Johnny Depp should I stroll down a dark alley.

13-07-2020 2:04am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Pair of them in it, she sounds borderline though

Borderline what?

Borderline dangerous?
Borderline mentally unwell?
Borderline attractive?
Borderline addicted?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 13-07-2020 6:04am

The problem for Johnny Depp, despite being a heartthrob for millions... he's never really been much good at keeping women happy in any of his relationships.

He's not really a man, he's more like a cool quirky teenager who never really grew up!

A real man would have no problem taming someone like Amber Heard. She's a bit loopy, but you'd sort her out quickly enough tbh!

ILoveYourVibes · 13-07-2020 6:39am

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

The problem for Johnny Depp, despite being a heartthrob for millions... he's never really been much good at keeping women happy in any of his relationships.

He's not really a man, he's more like a cool quirky teenager who never really grew up!

A real man would have no problem taming someone like Amber Heard. She's a bit loopy, but you'd sort her out quickly enough tbh!

She didn't want him. She wanted his money. She got it too.

I dunno maybe you are right... if he had been calling the cops on her when she beat him instead of hitting her back...she sure knew how to work the system.

Wanderer78 · 13-07-2020 7:38am

Deleted User wrote:

Borderline what?

Bpd

13-07-2020 8:41am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Bpd

I really don't know. She is an individual after all. Having BPD isn't necessarily going to make a person act terribly.
I remember a discussion on here about autism and aspergers. Someone wrote that if you meet one people who has aspergers then you have met one person.

Well that is the same for Borderline personality disorder and all mental illnesses.

Wanderer78 · 13-07-2020 9:38am

Deleted User wrote: »

I really don't know. She is an individual after all. Having BPD isn't necessarily going to make a person act terribly.
I remember a discussion on here about autism and aspergers. Someone wrote that if you meet one people who has aspergers then you have met one person.

Well that is the same for Borderline personality disorder and all mental illnesses.

some good points alright, bpd is a spectrum in itself, and since we all have limited information about this story, we shouldnt be jumping to conclusions, so i do apologies for that. to be honest, i really think theres a pair of them in it, depp probably has complex mental health issues going on also, possible some sort of disorder, who knows. im an aspie myself

Wibbs · 13-07-2020 10:36am

Deleted User wrote: »

I really don't know. She is an individual after all. Having BPD isn't necessarily going to make a person act terribly.
I remember a discussion on here about autism and aspergers. Someone wrote that if you meet one people who has aspergers then you have met one person.

+1. I've known a couple of BPD people down the years and if I were to just go on those examples one thing that was definitely missing was any sort of physical aggression. Headmelt yes, violence no.

Wanderer78 · 13-07-2020 10:39am

Wibbs wrote: »

+1. I've known a couple of BPD people down the years and if I were to just go on those examples one thing that was definitely missing was any sort of physical aggression. Headmelt yes, violence no.

unfortunately both are known to occur due to 'bpd anger' issues, i have met bpd's that have become violent, probably in the minority though to be fair. its an awful disorder, its extremely upsetting to see a loved one suffer with it, it can be an overwhelming feeling of helplessness, the cluster b's are far from straight forward

Earthhorse · 13-07-2020 10:46am

Depp has claimed that Heard is suffering from a personality disorder. Yes, yes, I know, not the most reliable source but this is sworn testimony so quite serious. It's not a stretch to believe there's something up with her. Depp himself has obvious addiction and potentially anger issues.

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no doubt a pair of them in it but for reasons I can't quite explain I'd be more wary of meeting Amber Heard than Johnny Depp should I stroll down a dark alley.

As long as you aren't planning on entering a long term relationship with either of them I'd say you'd be grand.

pgj2015 · 13-07-2020 11:00am

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no doubt a pair of them in it but for reasons I can't quite explain I'd be more wary of meeting Amber Heard than Johnny Depp should I stroll down a dark alley.

why? is she following you or something?:)

Gwynplaine · 13-07-2020 11:05am

Maybe she got sick of him being the same character in every film he's in.

pgj2015 · 13-07-2020 11:07am

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Maybe she got sick of him being the same character in every film he's in.

That is John Connors you are thinking of.

Amber Heard admits to beating up Johnny Depp

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