Dairy Chitchat 3

Inhibitors[\quote]

Cut artificial n is what I was thinking,it's responsible for about 30% of dairy emissions and is the only non essential bit

blackdog1 wrote: »

I'm still feeding 9kg of meal and 25kg of silage with good quality grass in the diet. Cows doing 3.65p and 4 fat so you can produce solids on silage but it's bloody expensive!

What's your grass like?

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Inhibitors[\quote]

Cut artificial n is what I was thinking,it's responsible for about 30% of dairy emissions and is the only non essential bit

Ah no Sam, you can’t be talking like that!! Crazy talk.

I see that to draw down the tillage/dairy forage aid you HAVE to spread fertilizer.
Jesus wept.

The whole idea of forage/cover crops is to reduce or even eliminate fertilizer application...I’m honestly dumbfounded.

freedominacup wrote: »

We rarely get to build this famous wedge/bank of grass for the autumn. Gr is never there to do it. The odd time we do the performance is never there. Save your silage. Move to a 30 day rotation and as you get into late Sept fill the performance gap with that good quality silage you seem to have. You'll have more milk and solids from it.

Was at 160 kg grass dm per cow last Saturday once I’m over 200 I’ll drop out buffer over few days .building and grazing covers once not too high never an issue in back end here .ill be hopeing to make it to mid October before having to buffer again .cows in great Knick and still pumping out very good solids and litres despite until this week ****e grass it came at a cost but def feel going hard with a buffer and hiring in feeder has paid off

awaywithyou wrote: »

Am I seeing things or are u appreciating the value of a diet feeder....?

Fully appreciate its value and use !!!,I’ll be honest after last few weeks I’d love one but that’ll mean another tractor or loader and a feeder,can I justify one is a question I’m now asking myself

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fully appreciate its value and use !!!,I’ll be honest after last few weeks I’d love one but that’ll mean another tractor or loader and a feeder,can I justify one is a question I’m now asking myself

It’d be crazy to have a wagon and parlor feeders at the same time...what would the poor merchants do?

blackdog1 wrote:

What are boys paying for straights at the moment?

210/ tonne soya hulls. Same for beet pulp. Have to take an artic. Glanbia.

blackdog1 wrote: »

What are boys paying for straights at the moment?

Maize meal making 225 plus a tonne and crushed barley 235. Feel free to post prices. Is love a few comparisons. Dawg you can shag off... I don't want to see any French prices they'd just depress me...

We were paying €185 for rolled barley, €180 for oats, €210 for maize meal, €200 for citrus meal and €220 for beet pulp nuts up until yesterday. I was told by merchant that prices were going up next week and rolled barley would be €220, maize meal €230 and beet pulp nuts €240 that is collected prices.

Timmaay wrote:

Do Glanbia still have hulls?

That's a forthnight ago. Never asked since

dar31 wrote: »

Prices have changed since. Upwards and will move up again.
Glanbia didn't have soya hulls or beet pulp nuts the middle of last week.
They are to expensive anyhow, by €20-30/t

All straights bar maby maize meal are going to get scarce and expensive and we’ve very few if any alternatives available ,there is going to have to be a substantial extra amount of extra meal put into stock until next April or may

jaymla627 wrote: »

Took 40 acreas of second cut silage ground yesterday of the lad I rent the majority of my ground of, didn’t need it but know a few lads who will buy the bales of it, at 150 a acre that I’m paying and at 7 bales to the acre which is optimistic (light enough crop has to be off the field by end of August) I need to be getting 40 euro a bale to break-even, won’t be sold for less then 45 as need some bit of a margin for my time and effort

Will ya get it do you think?

Reggie. wrote: »

Will ya get it do you think?

I’d reckon so, if not will buy in 40-50 continental weanlings if their cheap and carry them for the winter, should be a good twist out of them selling in April/may for the grass

yewtree wrote: »

Why bother if you don't need it, surely it's just another headache looking for that kind of money. On a energy basis it's not worth 45 euro, . That feed is working out at 20 cent a kg of dm you will have to hope lads are very badly stuck to pay that

I don’t really think you grasp the shortage of feed that already exists out their, when you see the huge amount of westerworld gone in it speaks volumes, with soya hulls up at 240 euro a ton, good quality silage has to be worth 20 cent a kg of dm....
Could be a great opertinuity to pick up cheap stock to if things really do go south

jaymla627 wrote: »

I’d reckon so, if not will buy in 40-50 continental weanlings if their cheap and carry them for the winter, should be a good twist out of them selling in April/may for the grass

Have ypu shed space for them?

jaymla627 wrote: »

Yeah have a shed for them, rubber slats and all so no bedding needed

I like the cut of your jib, Jay.
Exactly the way I’d work. Always a few quid to be turned...

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Bank holiday here so no staff until Monday...and I’m away on Sunday.

Anyhow, I’d merchants on to me a few weeks back looking for thousands of tons of fodder. No problem, but then it rained and they dropped it like a hot shyte...back on again today to book thousands of tons again. Reminds me of dairy farmers buying straw...

I lack patience for bolloxing like that.

Non refundable deposit

Mooooo wrote: »

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Price has risen...
Spoke to a fodder merchant there now, and it seems that the Germans, Danes and Swedes are now fishing this little pond.
I’m told that there’s nothing available in the UK.
The man I spoke to has 8ha under sheds that are full of fodder. He reckons that he’ll be sold out by mid sept.
I’ve a few wraps of Lucerne available. 23.1%pr, 61%dm and average 830kg. I’d take €100/bale ex yard.

‘The first of the soup is always the hottest’...

jaymla627 wrote: »

What would transport work out at per ton landed in Ireland at a Irish yard from yours would 35 euro a ton cover it

€2300-3000 for a back load depending on the transport company.
Doesn’t be long getting expensive...

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

I like the cut of your jib, Jay. Exactly the way I’d work. Always a few quid to be turned...

Older generation here says you'd always want a bay empty and plenty of feed. You'd never know when there's a bargain coming

Reggie. wrote: »

I came acriss 16 acres of grass today myself. 4 acres nearly ready to cut. Might cut it in 2 weeks and let it up again and cut the whole lot at end of sept

Was over finishing up the accounts for 17 with accountant and ended up selling 100 bales to him, hobby farmer with a few sucklers was nice to have the shoe on the other foot for once when discussing money

Mooooo wrote: »

For scanning when are ye doing it.? Pulled bull 24th July, was thinking to leave scanning till mid Sept so hopefully any losses etc may have happened by then. As an aside first cold morning we've had here in months, dunno what temp it is but with the wind could have done with the jacket.

I was grand. Had a lie on. Last one until end of autumn calving I'd say. Have a heifer springing will calve in the next day or 2. A bit earlier than expected but the milk will be welcome. Bull came out here 1st of August and going to scan 1st of Sept

First autumn calver calved this morning. Set of dead fr bull twins. Not due for a couple of weeks. Big enough all the same. Had another set of twins yesterday in the sucklers. All good there.