Air pod noise cancelling

DubDJ · 27-11-2019 10:40am

padjocollins wrote: »

I think people have too much money if they spend 250 euros on these. Battery life will be dismal after 2 years. Would be different if they never degraded.
I have tiso i5's for little over 20 euro. love them. It's comsumer choice. I'm not trying to troll people. I guess I have it against apple as I used to be a strong fan but now all I see is a company squeezing schekels out of their customers whichever way they can

I’ve a set up AirPods just under 2 years old and the battery life is still great on them. Used almost every day for those two years as well and I honestly can’t say the battery is in any way terrible. I haven’t noticed a noticeable drop to be honest. Still last at least a full week with at least 5 days use of that week. I upgraded to the Pro version and the battery life is lasting only slightly longer, despite being brand new.

For you 250 is too much for earphones, for others 50 is too much. You get what you pay for, show me a comparable set to Apple’s AirPods at half the price and I’d be surprised. Haven’t seen anything on the market in terms of sound quality, comfort, ease of use and reliability. Google’s upcoming pixel buds seem to be they first proper competitor I’ve seen. The majority are chunky sets that stick out too much and look terrible imo.

Soarer · 27-11-2019 12:30pm

Sold mine.

Kept falling out of my stupid ears.

peteeeed · 27-11-2019 12:54pm

i'm a month in and can say they are my favourite ear phones i've owned and i have had loads, the noise cancelling/transparency modes are a dream , plenty of bass and clarity , volume is great too
so well integrated with ios as they should
i think ive been just lucky that they fit so well

nerobert · 27-11-2019 4:16pm

larry1 wrote: »

Stocks very low nationwide and also a long delivery period. Need a set for a Xmas gift, anyone know where I could get them? Thanks!

Got a pair in arnotts yesterday

Blazer · 29-11-2019 9:58pm

Soarer wrote: »

Sold mine.

Kept falling out of my stupid ears.

plastic surgery mate...I reckon it will be the next big thing...get your ears adjusted so you can wear your airpods.
Of course knowing Apple they would tweak their airpods to a specific shape which would require more people to be modified by surgery and lock you into their airpods for ever

eeloe · 02-01-2020 5:01pm

The last two weeks I’ve been having a right dose of a time with my pro’s. Well, just the right one.

When using NC mode or Transparency, I’m getting lots of crackles, not from the media I’m listening to, but from outside noise. Say I’m in the gym and someone drops something heavy, I get lots of feedback.

Or if I’m walking down the road and cough, I get lots of crackles and feedback through the AirPods too.

Turn those features off and just use them normally, it’s fine, so I’m 99% sure it’s something to do with the mics. Newest version of iOS and AirPods on the latest firmware too.

Have a new right AirPod arriving with UPS tomorrow or Monday, they have. €99 hold on my card which will hopefully be released when they get mine back.

jack presley · 02-01-2020 5:15pm

I've played around with the 3 sizes and tried fiddling with them when they're in my ears but the Ear Tip test tells me to adjust or try a different ear tip for all of them.

Sarn · 02-01-2020 7:47pm

Sarn wrote: »

Unfortunately these are off my Christmas list. I’ve only an iPhone 6 and you need iOS 13 or watchOS 6, so my Apple Watch 4 wont work either (stuck on watchOS 5 because of iOS 12).

I ended up getting a pair of these for Christmas despite the above. So far so good. Can’t say I feel I’m missing anything apart from the initial ease setting up, maybe the use of Siri, but I never use it. I set up the batteries widget so can check the battery status by swiping right. Did the fit test with another phone.

The noise cancellation is impressive as is transparency mode. Compares well to my QC35IIs. Sound is what you’d expect.

milltown · 03-01-2020 12:43am

First I heard of these was an email from Apple 1 or 2 days before release. I had the wireless charging gen 2 airpods, which I thought were hugely overpriced, but got as a gift. The €40 price increase seemed like a bargain so I ordered from Apple and had them on release day.

I love them!

I had the Apple IEMs for listening and Bose QC35s for noise cancelling on planes and these are easily 75% as good as each for their relative strengths so as an all in one solution I reckon they are a bargain (relatively speaking). Battery hasn't run out on me yet, though I haven't been on a flight with them yet, but I use them in work and at home and pop them back in the case when ever they aren't in my ears.

I miss the convenience of the inline remote on the IEMs. Don't think a single button on each side will offer volume/skip/pause functionality without morse code proficiency. On the other hand, I do find myself switching between NC and transparency often, so IMO they offer a fantastic compromise.

Maybe I'm conditioned to Apple pricing. Maybe the wireless charging Airpod 2s were a stepping stone to this price point. As it stands, I reckon these are one of the best value products I can remember from Apple.

Without trying to sound like a prick, if you reckon a pair of €20 earphones can be as good as as something 4 or 5 times the price, these aren't for you. Likewise, if you wonder what's wrong with the earphones that came with your phone, move along. Nothing to see here.

peteeeed · 03-01-2020 10:00am

I'm 2 months into using them and love them, the noise cancelling is excellent, comfortable and the sound is really good. The large tips fit perfect for my big head

Deep Thought · 04-01-2020 3:40pm

I have them but just can’t seem to get the right fit.

I was looking to see if I can get after market hooks for them.

I may off load them.. and just keep using my Anker with the loops.

I have QC 35II for long distance

eeloe · 04-01-2020 5:49pm

Got my replacement right airpod yesterday and had a mare of a time trying to get it paired.

Was on the phone to apple support for almost an hour, and they were just about to send me out a new charging case, but i was in work so said i'd have to call them back.

eventually got them working in the end tho.....

shanec1928 · 05-01-2020 4:19pm

jack presley wrote: »

I've played around with the 3 sizes and tried fiddling with them when they're in my ears but the Ear Tip test tells me to adjust or try a different ear tip for all of them.

Happened me too. At least I was in the apple store trying them before I didn’t buy them:(

chrislad · 06-01-2020 11:30am

I got a pair for Christmas, and I'm quite happy with them as a secondary set of pods, for when I'm walking/running/etc, but they won't replace my QC35 for work or on the actual plane.

Bob24 · 06-01-2020 12:07pm

Santa also brought them to me :-)

Very nice everyday earphones - great combination of being compact, comfortable, easily to use, and noise cancelling.

Having said that in my opinion their sound quality and noise cancelling capabilities have been overstated a bit. They sound decent but I also have the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless, and they are clearly in a different league in terms of SQ (obvious SQ advantage for the MTW, but having said that they have other annoying flaws). Noise cancelling also does a good job but I don’t think it is as good as the Bose QC30s I was using until a few months ago (and it definitely isn’t as good as top of the league over-ear noise cancelling headphones).

So to come back to the AirPods Pro, they are not best in class when looking at individual metrics such SQ or NC, but they are best in class for comfort and usability and at least decent at everything so the overall package is probably the best in the the category of true wireless earphones.

IamMetaldave · 06-01-2020 5:09pm

My original AirPods went for a swim over the Christmas break and even though they still work (amazingly) the sound quality has been significantly reduced. I have been looking to replace them with the pros.. and like the last time I went to buy AirPods, there's not a pair to be found. Guess I'll have to wait for Apple to ship them.

Creamy Goodness · 06-01-2020 5:11pm

IamMetaldave wrote: »

My original AirPods went for a swim over the Christmas break and even though they still work (amazingly) the sound quality has been significantly reduced. I have been looking to replace them with the pros.. and like the last time I went to buy AirPods, there's not a pair to be found. Guess I'll have to wait for Apple to ship them.

Ring or call into a compuB, like you said they were all sold out everywhere but on the off chance I went into CompuB in Dundrum the Sunday before Christmas, asked them and they 'went out back' and brought me a pair. They had none on the shelves but had stock for people asking.

IamMetaldave · 06-01-2020 5:14pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Ring or call into a compuB, like you said they were all sold out everywhere but on the off chance I went into CompuB in Dundrum the Sunday before Christmas, asked them and they 'went out back' and brought me a pair. They had none on the shelves but had stock for people asking.

Nice! Thanks for that! It's actually how I got my originals in Harvey Norman, I chanced my arm and they had just taken new stock in! Defo worth a try!

peteeeed · 06-01-2020 5:20pm

IamMetaldave wrote: »

My original AirPods went for a swim over the Christmas break and even though they still work (amazingly) the sound quality has been significantly reduced. I have been looking to replace them with the pros.. and like the last time I went to buy AirPods, there's not a pair to be found. Guess I'll have to wait for Apple to ship them.

Argos have stock I think

IamMetaldave · 06-01-2020 5:48pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Argos have stock I think

Cheers! They do! Price tag is 310 quid!? That's a fair bit over the odds, isn't it?

Creamy Goodness · 06-01-2020 5:53pm

IamMetaldave wrote: »

Cheers! They do! Price tag is 310 quid!? That's a fair bit over the odds, isn't it?

I paid €279 for them, which is the RRP I believe.

IamMetaldave · 06-01-2020 6:57pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

I paid €279 for them, which is the RRP I believe.

That's the price I was expecting, but they're listed as 310 at the moment.

DubDJ · 07-01-2020 1:16am

Argos generally mark-up prices on Apple devices and accessories. Some of the Apple stuff they sell are the RRP but most of it I’ve found to be a bit more expensive.

peteeeed · 07-01-2020 8:22am

Yeah I think Argos buy up huge stock and charge a bit more

IamMetaldave · 07-01-2020 10:26am

Scoundrals! I'll be up in Dundrum over the weekend and chance my arm in CompuB.

marcos_94 · 08-01-2020 2:30pm

Picked up a set yesterday> I came from a set of 1st generation Airpods and to be honest, I am a little underwhelmed by the pros. Im having an issue now where the "test fit" in the bluetooth settings wont work with any of the buds and not sure what to do. I also think the sound quality isnt as good as my 1st gen. I definitely dont consider myself an audiophile, and maybe im just too used to it but to me it sounds like the old airpods had more bass.

I bought the airpods secondhand so sadly cant return them so I guess I will give them a week and if I still dont like them, Ill probably sell them and buy a set of standard airpods

peteeeed · 08-01-2020 2:54pm

marcos_94 wrote: »

Picked up a set yesterday> I came from a set of 1st generation Airpods and to be honest, I am a little underwhelmed by the pros. Im having an issue now where the "test fit" in the bluetooth settings wont work with any of the buds and not sure what to do. I also think the sound quality isnt as good as my 1st gen. I definitely dont consider myself an audiophile, and maybe im just too used to it but to me it sounds like the old airpods had more bass.

I bought the airpods secondhand so sadly cant return them so I guess I will give them a week and if I still dont like them, Ill probably sell them and buy a set of standard airpods

Move the buds a little bit but it terms of sound they should be a lot better than the original air pods ( from my own experience)

marcos_94 · 08-01-2020 4:32pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Move the buds a little bit but it terms of sound they should be a lot better than the original air pods ( from my own experience)

Yeah iv tried different positions for the buds but doesnt seem to do anything. Silly questions but would Compub be able to help with it?

IamMetaldave · 08-01-2020 4:49pm

marcos_94 wrote: »

Yeah iv tried different positions for the buds but doesnt seem to do anything. Silly questions but would Compub be able to help with it?

They have their version of the "Genius Bar" there, they may have some suggestion.. not sure what else could be done if they're fitting right with any of three tips.

The Nal · 08-01-2020 5:03pm

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

marcos_94 · 08-01-2020 5:17pm

The Nal wrote: »

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

Great contribution to the thread. Anything else enlightening you'd like to add?

The Nal · 08-01-2020 5:30pm

marcos_94 wrote: »

Great contribution to the thread. Anything else enlightening you'd like to add?

Sorry no. I'm too busy shopping for Kabbalah bracelets and Yeezy socks at the moment.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 08-01-2020 5:34pm

The Nal wrote: »

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

You can say that about anything Apple to be fair.

Sent from my iPhone 11

peteeeed · 08-01-2020 5:36pm

The Nal wrote: »

Sorry no. I'm too busy shopping for Kabbalah bracelets and Yeezy socks at the moment.

What?

IamMetaldave · 08-01-2020 5:40pm

The Nal wrote: »

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

Same could said for literally every electronics device on the market. Admittedly, the mark up on these more than most.. but Apple stuff has always been expensive..

peteeeed · 08-01-2020 5:44pm

Marco Swift Material wrote: »

You can say that about anything Apple to be fair.

Sent from my iPhone 11

Including the iPhone 11

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 08-01-2020 6:00pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Including the iPhone 11

Whoosh

DubDJ · 08-01-2020 6:44pm

The Nal wrote: »

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

Have you got an email where we can all contact you and find out if the stuff we buy is value for money before we buy?

Why are people willing to pay silly money for: a car, a house, a holiday, a fancy meal, a night out etc.

This stuff is all relative, what’s silly to you might not be silly to us. Maybe we think going to gigs and spending money on pints are a waste of money, especially since you can easily spend €50-€100 on a night out. Instead of spending the money on two nights out you can put that towards a set of AirPods. You’ll get years of use out of those instead of paying silly money for a hangover the next day.

Bob24 · 09-01-2020 12:09am

The Nal wrote: »

These things are the biggest rip off I can think of in recent years. Its genuinely sad.

Why are people willing to pay silly money for products that cost a few quid to make? Is it just because they're Apple?

Utter madness.

The estimate production cost for the original AirPods is 59-69 USD. There is quite a bit more into the Pros so it is safe to say they cost at the *very least* 80 USD to produce (probably closer to 100). That is of course without VAT and not including R&D, product promotion, distribution channels, and the cost of serving warranties.

So Apple surely gets a good margin, but absolutely nowhere near what you believe to be the case.

And to answer your question: people are buying them because no other company has been able to produce a pair of truly wireless earbuds which are that seamless to use, that reliable, that light and small, that comfortable, have comparable battery life in that form factor, and have decent ANC and sound quality. Any competing product will require to compromise on at least one of these criteria, and while there are decent competitors which might lose out on some aspects and be better on others, their price is in the same league. For exemple I have a pair of Sennheiser MTW which are in the same price range and sound better, but they don’t have ANC and are worse at every single other criteria I have listed. If I had to keep only one pair it would be a not brained to go for the AirPods Pro.

WayneEnterprise · 09-01-2020 3:17pm

If anyone is interested, I have a pair reserved in Argos in St. Stephen's Green that I won't be picking up.

Reserved them yesterday with the intention of returning them under Argos's 30 day returns policy if they didn't fit me ears. However when I went to collect them today was told they won't refund unless they are in the original cellophane.

Ordered from Apple now instead but having to wait 4 weeks. At least they'll accept a return if they don't fit.

turfthrower · 10-01-2020 11:17am

marcos_94 wrote: »

Picked up a set yesterday> I came from a set of 1st generation Airpods and to be honest, I am a little underwhelmed by the pros. Im having an issue now where the "test fit" in the bluetooth settings wont work with any of the buds and not sure what to do. I also think the sound quality isnt as good as my 1st gen. I definitely dont consider myself an audiophile, and maybe im just too used to it but to me it sounds like the old airpods had more bass.

I bought the airpods secondhand so sadly cant return them so I guess I will give them a week and if I still dont like them, Ill probably sell them and buy a set of standard airpods

You should be hearing a significant difference. If you're not and you didn't buy them new . . . then there is a possibility they're fake. There are quite a few Chinese made knock offs available online that look very close - in some cases almost identical, but which don't have the functionality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps32Z5PM7Ec&t=2s

So that's a possibility? Of course, they may well be real and you're just not impressed. That's a possibility but MOST people find there to be a big difference between AirPods 1 and AirPods Pro.

marcos_94 · 10-01-2020 11:42am

turfthrower wrote: »

You should be hearing a significant difference. If you're not and you didn't buy them new . . . then there is a possibility they're fake. There are quite a few Chinese made knock offs available online that look very close - in some cases almost identical, but which don't have the functionality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps32Z5PM7Ec&t=2s

So that's a possibility? Of course, they may well be real and you're just not impressed. That's a possibility but MOST people find there to be a big difference between AirPods 1 and AirPods Pro.

Hi, Thanks for the concern. You are right, I bought them "used" but when I bought them i checked the serial number and ensured they are genuine. I have scheduled a call with Apple support to see if there is anything I can do.Fingers crossed!

I will say that while the "test fit" sequence still doesnt work, I think they do sound better than my previous Airpods. I think this may be a mental thing where I had much bigger expectations of sound improvements as a result of the reviews I read

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 11-01-2020 12:54am

Is there really a month leadtime on these in the Apple Store? What are the odds of them arriving sooner?

djdunny · 11-01-2020 12:52pm

Marco Swift Material wrote: »

Is there really a month leadtime on these in the Apple Store? What are the odds of them arriving sooner?

I ordered mine at the end of November and the delivery date I got with my confirmation email was the exact date I received them so I guess there is little to no chance of them coming sooner.

nerobert · 15-01-2020 10:07am

I’m having awful trouble with these. Got them mid December and they were grand for about two weeks, at the beginning of the year the right one started disconnecting after about 5/10 minutes of use. I forgot them from my phone and they usually worked grand but it’s at the stage now where the right one is completely knackered. My phone recognises it but it’s like it doesn’t recognise my ear when I put it in.

Was onto apple support about it and they made me an appointment with CompuB so I’m hoping they can replace them. Not good for a €280 pair of earphones.

Nonoperational · 15-01-2020 12:04pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Have you got an email where we can all contact you and find out if the stuff we buy is value for money before we buy?

Why are people willing to pay silly money for: a car, a house, a holiday, a fancy meal, a night out etc.

This stuff is all relative, what’s silly to you might not be silly to us. Maybe we think going to gigs and spending money on pints are a waste of money, especially since you can easily spend €50-€100 on a night out. Instead of spending the money on two nights out you can put that towards a set of AirPods. You’ll get years of use out of those instead of paying silly money for a hangover the next day.

It's just the way social media is going. Always someone with a condescending superior viewpoint. Buy something you like, someone tells you its a useless waste of money and they got the same product for €2 from China and it's amazing etc etc. In reality I find the AirPods pro exceptional, the price doesn't bother me and I'd buy them again in a heartbeat. I realise they are at a premium, I accept and pay that. How that bothers someone else always makes the mind boggle. I'm sure they're much happier than me with their alternative products anyway.

jack presley · 18-01-2020 6:43pm

Anyone else (whose firmware updated to 2C54) notice any change in the noise cancellation quality?

https://www.macworld.com/article/3514212/apple-please-fix-active-noise-cancellation-in-the-airpods-pro.html

The noice cancellation isn't great for me but that's because I can't get any of the damn tips to fit properly (memory foam tips ordered but not yet arrived) so I was wondering if anyone who gets a perfect fit has noticed any difference?

peteeeed · 19-01-2020 9:06am

jack presley wrote: »

Anyone else (whose firmware updated to 2C54) notice any change in the noise cancellation quality?

https://www.macworld.com/article/3514212/apple-please-fix-active-noise-cancellation-in-the-airpods-pro.html

The noice cancellation isn't great for me but that's because I can't get any of the damn tips to fit properly (memory foam tips ordered but not yet arrived) so I was wondering if anyone who gets a perfect fit has noticed any difference?

Mine are still fine, cuts the train noise And the Terrible gym music out

faceman · 19-01-2020 3:03pm

I’ve been eager to pick a pair of these up but I’m getting very cold feet. I’ve original AirPods 2 years and the battery life is atrocious. I get about an hour of music out of the left one (just music no calls) which has me thinking the AirPods pro will be the same.

Headphones should have a longer life than 2 years.

Anyone know of any decent competitors to the AirPods that are obviously Apple friendly, in war but don’t have clunky attachments (such as the Bose in ear noise cancellers with the headband)

Bob24 · 19-01-2020 3:12pm

faceman wrote: »

I’ve been eager to pick a pair of these up but I’m getting very cold feet. I’ve original AirPods 2 years and the battery life is atrocious. I get about an hour of music out of the left one (just music no calls) which has me thinking the AirPods pro will be the same.

Headphones should have a longer life than 2 years.

Anyone know of any decent competitors to the AirPods that are obviously Apple friendly, in war but don’t have clunky attachments (such as the Bose in ear noise cancellers with the headband)

In short: the laws of physics and current battery technology mean that any true wireless earphones currently on the market will see significant battery life drop after 2-3 years of daily use.

This is basically due to the fact that the tiny batteries they are powered by tend to lose capacity much more than larger units in proportion to their initial capacity when subjected to regular charging cycles.

If you want to look for an APP competitor, the best contender is arguably the Sony WF-1000XM3 though - they have slightly larger batteries making them larger/heavier but giving better battery life and making them slightly less affected by the issue you are describing. But they will also be affected eventually, and if you don’t accept significant battery life reduction after 2-3 years of regular use, you unfortunately have no choice but to go either for a wired unit, for larger over ear wireless headphones, or for wireless earphones with a neckband (which contains a much larger and more durable battery).

Air pod noise cancelling

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