Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

irishguitarlad · 02-06-2020 3:20pm

Gibson guitars, you can get a lovely les paul from various guitar manufacturers for a third of the price or even less. You can even buy a cheapo modelo and mod it and it would sound the like the dogs ballócks for a couple of hundred. Actually gibson are in massive financial trouble as people are wisening up that other guitar makers are seriously improving and they are a lot cheaper.

PARlance · 02-06-2020 3:28pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Did you watch the video I posted a few posts back? Nothing wrong with the head on that one.

I pulled enough pints straight up, in my college days, to know that it makes f all difference in appearance once settled.

We had a regular who couldn't be bothered with the wait.

L1011 · 02-06-2020 3:43pm

snoopboggybog wrote: »

Your wrong, its takes a while for a pint of Guiness to settle and this is why there is a two part pour. The reason for the two part pour is.

1) It allows the pint to settle before giving it to the customer
2) When the pint is settled and the barman is adding the last fifth of the pint it gives a much better head.

The next time your in a pub ask the barman to pull a pint straight with one pour and ask them to pull it normally with the the two part pour and compare the pints. The two part pour pint will win hands down as your topping up the pint when its allready settled, resulting in a better head on the pint.

Thats what Diageo marketing have told you, not what actually happens. Which is the entire point.

You won't notice the difference

It's pantomime to recreate some of the legitimately slow pour of the pre draught product.

c.p.w.g.w · 02-06-2020 3:53pm

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Leaving the bag in for 3 mins or 10 mins, that would be undrinkable. I usually don’t even leave the bag in, I hold it and dunk it for about 10 or 15 seconds and bin it, good shot of milk and enjoy! Always Barry’s too miles ahead of any other tea.

Tea bag should be left brew for between 2-5 minutes depending on the blend...

15 seconds your just lightly flavouring the water...

Mind you i like strong tasting tea...

Fallons brewed for 3 minutes is perfect for my tastes, it reminds of a kenyan blend of loose leaf I had in London last time over in this hipster tea shop

snoopboggybog · 02-06-2020 4:15pm

L1011 wrote: »

Thats what Diageo marketing have told you, not what actually happens. Which is the entire point.

You won't notice the difference

It's pantomime to recreate some of the legitimately slow pour of the pre draught product.

Have you ever pulled a pint of Guinness? You get a better head with the two part pour. That's the whole point!

Adyx · 02-06-2020 5:55pm

snoopboggybog wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a pint of Guinness? You get a better head with the two part pour. That's the whole point!

I've pulled at least 50,000 pints of Guinness. Two-part pour makes no difference. It's just marketing crap.

Feisar · 02-06-2020 5:58pm

Adyx wrote: »

I've pulled at least 50,000 pints of Guinness. Two-part pour makes no difference. It's just marketing crap.

I served my time behind the counter as well. Would you not accept the domed head slightly proud of the glass is achieved by letting the first pour settle?

Adyx · 02-06-2020 6:01pm

hoodie6029 wrote: »

Microsoft Office.

You have to pay a subscription for this now. I lost my installed version during the upgrade to Win 10.
For most home users the functions they'll use haven't changed since '97 so the subscription is a complete rip off.

I changed to Libre Office and haven't looked back.

This is a great thread apart from the Apple v Android debate.

For most users the sub isn't worth it. If you need cloud storage it's definitely a good option though instead of paying for Dropbox. Office and one Terabyte of storage from €69 a year isn't bad.

L1011 · 02-06-2020 7:19pm

snoopboggybog wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a pint of Guinness? You get a better head with the two part pour. That's the whole point!

Yes. Been quite a while now but the hoodoo was developed quite a bigger while before that.

You don't

You've been got by Diageo marketing.

Feisar wrote: »

I served my time behind the counter as well. Would you not accept the domed head slightly proud of the glass is achieved by letting the first pour settle?

Nobody is going to notice any minor visual difference after one pint, or in a slightly dim pub. Which is oddly the normal conditions present in the pubs that most people go on about being the best pubs for pints!

I'd be quite interested in seeing how short a rest is required for that anyway - could easily be 10 rather than 110 seconds.

Adyx · 02-06-2020 7:55pm

Feisar wrote: »

I served my time behind the counter as well. Would you not accept the domed head slightly proud of the glass is achieved by letting the first pour settle?

You'd still get the domed head with a single pour. Maybe it's slightly easier with the two-part pour. Id' argue that the "perfect, domed head" is just marketing anyway. Not saying the pint shouldn't look good and inviting, but realistically, how many people would notice or care? It certainly has no effect on the taste.

Diageo spend millions annually marketing Guinness (which is fair enough) and it's all on the "perfect pour", the "irish tradition" and quirky tv ads. Little to none of it on the taste or quality of the beer.

Now, I've no issue with Guinness at all. It's fine for what it is and god knows there's an awful lot of crap craft beers out there, but Guinness has this mystical, holy rep to it and Diageo are happy to exploit it.

Feisar · 02-06-2020 9:25pm

Adyx wrote: »

You'd still get the domed head with a single pour. Maybe it's slightly easier with the two-part pour. Id' argue that the "perfect, domed head" is just marketing anyway. Not saying the pint shouldn't look good and inviting, but realistically, how many people would notice or care? It certainly has no effect on the taste.

Diageo spend millions annually marketing Guinness (which is fair enough) and it's all on the "perfect pour", the "irish tradition" and quirky tv ads. Little to none of it on the taste or quality of the beer.

Now, I've no issue with Guinness at all. It's fine for what it is and god knows there's an awful lot of crap craft beers out there, but Guinness has this mystical, holy rep to it and Diageo are happy to exploit it.

I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Guinness, it's all marketing. It's a very average stout, however I just think the two part pour achieves the most presentable pint.

Can the Cork lads chime in, is it the same with Murphy's?

Capt'n Midnight · 02-06-2020 10:09pm

Kilboor wrote: »

Microsoft Excel is a superb application used to complete complicated and repetitive functions in the finance world.

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.

Not sure about the rest and I despise Word.

I still have muscle memory for Ctrl KB KK KC KV from older easier to use word processors. And it's way faster than using a mouse.

And don't get me started on Office's "hide rarely used features so you'll never ever find them" default.

retalivity · 02-06-2020 10:28pm

Ffs stop talking about pints, i want to go to the pub.

Kilboor · 02-06-2020 10:31pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.

I still have muscle memory for Ctrl KB KK KC KV from older easier to use word processors. And it's way faster than using a mouse.

And don't get me started on Office's "hide rarely used features so you'll never ever find them" default.

What are the alternatives to Excel? I know some very high profile traders, hedge fund managers, and CEOs who would sing praises about Excel, and they're no idiots. I don't think the fact 88% of sheets have mistakes is justification to say it's a bad product to be honest.

Simply is no other better solution for managing datasets. It was and continues to be a vital element of using data to make decisions in every aspect of business today. A bad product it is not I would say. Overrated? Compared to what?

Adyx · 02-06-2020 10:49pm

Feisar wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Guinness, it's all marketing. It's a very average stout, however I just think the two part pour achieves the most presentable pint.

Can the Cork lads chime in, is it the same with Murphy's?

Stcking an umbrella in a cocktail makes it more presentable as well.:pac:

Ah no, I'd actually agree with you about presentation, I just think the whole mysticism about the two-part pour is nonsense. Where I work we show tourists how to pull their own pint of Guinness and they love the whole ritual of it. Thankfully, I'm not behind the bar anymore.

I worked in a place that had Guinness, Beamish and Murphys. They had a special stick for clearing the massive head off Beamish and Murphys so they ended up being 3 or 4 part pours.

A large bottle off the shelf was always more popular here in Waterford.

whisky_galore · 02-06-2020 10:56pm

Augeo wrote: »

Rumour has it Barry's produce Super Value own brand tea.

It's not like SV would go to the bother of sourcing, importing and processing its own tea in a plant built for themselves. Supermarket own brand stuff is packed under the same roof as the so called premium brands.

JohnnyFlash · 02-06-2020 10:59pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And all used the BSD stack for TCP/IP networking and utilities. With considerable differences in implementation.

This makes me :mad: every time I have a networking issue or delay in reacquiring setting specially with WiFi in windows where it just works in the others. Sick of uninstalling / disabling / device manager / even regedit just to get WiFi to connect if there's anything non standard.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.

I still have muscle memory for Ctrl KB KK KC KV from older easier to use word processors. And it's way faster than using a mouse.

And don't get me started on Office's "hide rarely used features so you'll never ever find them" default.

I presume 88% of errors in Excel files relates to humans inputting incorrect data as presumed to some fatal flaw in the software that hasn't been discovered in over 30 years of development.

Why is all you hardcore IT guys are always finding issues with software that 99.999999% of users have little or no issue with? Like when is the last time any regular Joe had any issue with connecting to a Wifi network? Or have to reinstall their OS twice a year.

There's a hint of the crusty old mainframe admin about this stuff. Nostalgia for batch scripts, dot matrix printers, and Usenet. That era is over. Most modern technology works almost flawlessly.

dominatinMC · 03-06-2020 8:39am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.

That's more of an indictment of the user than the software IMO. I use MATLAB, Python, Fortran for various tasks, but regularly come back to Excel for basic calculations and data management. Mainly because it is intuitive, easy to use, accessible, and a well-rounded piece of computational software. The fact that 88% of Excel users can't follow the simple BOMDAS paradigm doesn't make it an overrated product :pac:

03-06-2020 9:45am

Feisar wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Guinness, it's all marketing. It's a very average stout,

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

the beer revolu · 03-06-2020 10:10am

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

You really are such a brand bunny, Nox.
Marketing people adore people like you.

irish_goat · 03-06-2020 10:16am

Whatever about the two part pour, Diageo's stout has to be the wateriest and blandest on the market.

Feisar · 03-06-2020 10:35am

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

While I have drank my fair share of Guinness in my time if I'm being honest with myself it's a fairly unremarkable stout.

Feisar · 03-06-2020 10:37am

irish_goat wrote: »

Whatever about the two part pour, Diageo's stout has to be the wateriest and blandest on the market.

Get a pint of Wrasslers XXXX, you'd nearly need a spoon to dig it out of the glass!

HopsAndJumps · 03-06-2020 10:44am

Feisar wrote: »

Get a pint of Wrasslers XXXX, you'd nearly need a spoon to dig it out of the glass!

Wrasslers! Now that's a good Irish stout.

Guinness has gotten colder and less bitter over the years, to make it easier to drink so it can compete with the lagers. There is nothing wrong with Guinness, it's fine for what it is.

Just like there is nothing wrong with McDonalds, a big Mac doesn't taste bad, its just very bland and salty. It appeals to the masses.

03-06-2020 11:23am

the beer revolu wrote: »

You really are such a brand bunny, Nox.
Marketing people adore people like you.

I love the stuff it’s nothing to do with brand loyalty, I don’t particularly like any other stout most are undrinkable imo. The only other stout that I’d drink is porterhouse plain aside from that if Guinness isn’t available or I know it’s bad in a particularly pub I’ll drink an IPA or cider, I’d even go for a larger before other stouts.

the beer revolu · 03-06-2020 12:01pm

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I love the stuff it’s nothing to do with brand loyalty, I don’t particularly like any other stout most are undrinkable imo. The only other stout that I’d drink is porterhouse plain aside from that if Guinness isn’t available or I know it’s bad in a particularly pub I’ll drink an IPA or cider, I’d even go for a larger before other stouts.

Yup, a brand bunny.

murpho999 · 03-06-2020 12:45pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.

I still have muscle memory for Ctrl KB KK KC KV from older easier to use word processors. And it's way faster than using a mouse.

And don't get me started on Office's "hide rarely used features so you'll never ever find them" default.

So one article on the internet means that Excel is over rated.

Anyhow, I think it's a great product.

Also not many people realise that often their work licence for Office permits home use for Office.

Depending on the licence that your work has just login with your work Outlook details and off you go, all legit and you get the full office suite rather than the home version.

03-06-2020 12:50pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

Yup, a brand bunny.

Nonsense. How is it being a brand bunny when I choose the product which I like the taste of? I’ve tried plenty of stouts and most I wouldn’t give to the dog, any stout from a bottle is horrible too. Draught is the only way, cans of Guinness are drinkable but not a patch on draught.

CrankyHaus · 03-06-2020 12:53pm

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

secondrowgal · 03-06-2020 12:57pm

Jesus! Enough about the Guinness already! Open a new thread!

Hershey's chocolate is my contribution.

L1011 · 03-06-2020 1:08pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

If you think Gordons is bad, remember the absolute pisswater that's usually sold if you don't specify a gin in a bar - Cork Dry.

My local used Boru vodka as its default for years and there were people who'd order Smirnoff by name despite them being comparable at least; Boru possibly a tad better.

CrankyHaus · 03-06-2020 1:43pm

L1011 wrote: »

If you think Gordons is bad, remember the absolute pisswater that's usually sold if you don't specify a gin in a bar - Cork Dry.

My local used Boru vodka as its default for years and there were people who'd order Smirnoff by name despite them being comparable at least; Boru possibly a tad better.

For the price point I actually quite like Cork Dry, all a matter of taste I suppose.

I agree about Boru, people asking for Smirnoff by name is madness, pure marketing.

Randy Archer · 03-06-2020 3:19pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Totally agree, Burger King is streets ahead of McDonald's on quality and value, still dear enough for what you get though.

Kiosk ordering in McD's is brilliant however, especially with the kids in tow.

I like KFC but my local one always fcuks up / delays orders and they don't change the oil often enough so it can taste a bit rank.

Yep, Burger King burger , fills ya up . Always get chips but chips are glorious and BK chips arent to bad. Never digged McDonalds . The king was always better than Bosco’s big brother anyway

Though to be fair to McDonald’s, weren’t they the first to do something like the McFlurry ? Yum .

Has anyone noticed that the old reliable Supermacs has (a) kinda gone to ****e and (b) got really pricey ?

Randy Archer · 03-06-2020 3:22pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I watched the netflix documentary on the Chicago Bulls - the last dance.
It was good but very 'Michael Jordan centric.'
I am not really into basketball - was a casual watcher of CH4 NBA in the 90's.

But then I realised that Michael Jordan is still churning out those runners which are made in China and sold for inflated prices - he has some neck on him.

Plus the consumers of those runners clearly only still purchase them, because of the Jordan brand name. Fools and thier money are easily parted. Has to be one of the most overrated brands? Jordan shoes

People use to beat the living ****e out of each Queing up to get a pair or robbing people who wore a pair

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 03-06-2020 3:26pm

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

That must have been fascinating for them.

I don't drink stout myself so can't make any judgement but I've heard that the two part pour is bullshit. Is it?

Tiredalways · 03-06-2020 3:57pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cadburys 10000000%. Muck.

Being bought by mondelez ruined them. But ive discovered german chocolate from lidl/aldi is the business. Delicious and creamy and praline is a joy to behold

03-06-2020 4:20pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

.........

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
..........
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

.........

Any whiskey not triple distilled is going to be poor compared to a TD option.

Randy Archer wrote: »

.........

Has anyone noticed that the old reliable Supermacs has (a) kinda gone to ****e and (b) got really pricey ?

Scaled up from the original offering so it's lost something.... Likely quality. All the warehousing & couriers need to be paid.

the beer revolu · 03-06-2020 5:21pm

Augeo wrote: »

Any whiskey not triple distilled is going to be poor compared to a TD option..

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

Feisar · 03-06-2020 5:51pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

No, that's a pretty sane conclusion.

One caveat: I hate Scotch!

Adyx · 03-06-2020 6:39pm

Feisar wrote: »

No, that's a pretty sane conclusion.

One caveat: I hate Scotch!

I used to hate Scotch, but then I realised there's such a variety it's impossible to lump them altogether. So now I might not like one type but I certainly can't say I hate all Scotch.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 03-06-2020 6:42pm

Scotch whisky is a far more interesting, varied, and rounded drink than Irish whiskey. I realise there are exceptions to that, but most Irish whiskey lacks character. It's the sort of stuff made so people can mix it with coke or ginger ale after they've had enough pints of mass produced beer.

Iscreamkone · 03-06-2020 6:47pm

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Scotch whisky is a far more interesting, varied, and rounded drink than Irish whiskey. I realise there are exceptions to that, but most Irish whiskey lacks character. It's the sort of stuff made so people can mix it with coke or ginger ale after they've had enough pints of mass produced beer.

That’s Paddy for you. Only for rubbing on your legs before a match
Jamie 12 or Bushmills is a different class altogether

odyssey06 · 03-06-2020 6:57pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

I think you've lost the run of yourself there!
Teelings is priced much higher than basic Jameson, and Teelings Small Batch versus Jameson Crested would be a close call for me.

Basic level Jameson I would rate over basic Bushmills, and is a fine product.
No way is it bland or manure adjacent or can it be used to make a negative case about brands.

Powers is a quality whiskey but that's more in the category of underrated gem, I don't think it's quality says anything negative about Jameson or can be used to make a case that Jameson is overrated. It's qualities are less obvious shall we say. I would drink a lot more Jameson (straight or mixed) than Powers.
Powers and Jameson are actually the same ultimate brand after all...
It's a combination of marketing and also Jameson as a product has more mass market appeal.

03-06-2020 7:57pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

Unless you are talking single malts.
Also, it was the American brands I quoted iirc.

Wompa1 · 03-06-2020 8:04pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's worth paying a premium for Apple devices because they are the last major tech company who still give half a damn about personal privacy. It's the tech equivalent of the overton window.

I mean, the fappening was via vulnerability in iCloud. They lost a court case in the EU with the original iPods due to restricting access to your own music files. In the last 18 months alone they had bugs in macOS that left the root account wide open and another that exposed the disk encryption key (if the owner encrypted the drive).

Worst of all, their response to these types of issues is slooooooooooooow!

BUT I don't think they should be on the list for one of the most overrated. The iPhone maybe. iPad maybe. Macs, nah. Apple's software, probably.

For me overrated brand: Mercedez, Tommy Hilfiger and Beats,

EmmetSpiceland · 03-06-2020 8:05pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I don't drink stout myself so can't make any judgement but I've heard that the two part pour is bullshit. Is it?

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.

The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.

The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

Suckit · 03-06-2020 8:08pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's worth paying a premium for Apple devices because they are the last major tech company who still give half a damn about personal privacy. It's the tech equivalent of the overton window.

Apple do not give half a damn about personal privacy.

odyssey06 · 03-06-2020 8:11pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.
The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.
The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

Not contradicting any of your post - just mentioning that there is a "je ne sais quoi" aspect to the experience whch should not be written off.

EmmetSpiceland · 03-06-2020 8:14pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Not contradicting any of your post - just mentioning that there is a "je ne sais quoi" aspect to the experience whch should not be written off.

There is that.

If I was at a bar and was handed a “straight pour” it would be viewed with extreme suspicion.

The only time it should ever be pulled in one go is on request.

Feisar · 03-06-2020 8:24pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.

The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.

The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

It was me that used the term "domed head" to explain the head sitting slightly proud of the top of the glass.

Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

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