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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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  • #52
    TheIrishGrover
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    I'd say they will go more episodic (But not back to Voyager's Big Red Weekly Reset Button. Most people don't want that: Tastes have changed, people want a stroyline they can get their teeth into. But it will probably be more episodic than Discovery and Picard.

    They know there is no pleasing some Trek fans who resist ANY change - Sci-Fi seems to have more than it's share of toxic so-called "fans".

    It will probably be a little bit more fun that Discovery and Picard.

    As for the crew: Yeah, I'd say 3 more slightly-lower tier "main" characters after Pike, Spock and Number One: As stated above, a doctor, an engineer and maybe a security officer.

    Interestingly I don't think Spock will be the "alien/other character" (Data, Odo, The Doctor/Nelix, T'Pol, Saru, the Samurai Romulan.... uhhh..... Spock). We are so used to Vulcans and his character has been so developed in Discovery that I think they'll have another species. Maybe the Engineer - Aliens have pretty much been on most other posts throughout the different shows.

    I am looking forward to this so much more than what will surely be panto OTT shenanigans that the Section 31 series runs the risk of settling into (As someone said above: Give us DS9 Section 31 not Discovery Section 31).


  • #53
    Justin Credible Darts
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    Mentioned a while back I would like to see the introduction of people like Doctor Boyce, and maybe a young scotty or sulu, or even some crew who were there prior to "the cage"

    There is plenty of scope to work within


  • #54
    Stark
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    Wasn't a huge fan of Doctor Boyce in the original. "Doctor or bartender?". Cringe.

    Gary Mitchell/Elizabeth Dehner could be cool.

    For the record, Discovery seems to be set after the events of "the cage". Not sure will they set this show in the same time or will they go back to the start when Spock first joined the Enterprise crew like in the Short Treks.


  • #55
    Justin Credible Darts
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    if set after the cage and before the kirk era, then the doctor could be Dr Piper.

    Or even some minor role for a crewman leslie, one of the iconic redshirts


  • #56
    TheValeyard
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    I'd say they'll go episodic but keep some overall plot line that get solved in a two parter at each half way point. Keep everyone happy.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #57
    Rawr
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    Stark wrote: »
    Wasn't a huge fan of Doctor Boyce in the original. "Doctor or bartender?". Cringe.

    Gary Mitchell/Elizabeth Dehner could be cool.

    For the record, Discovery seems to be set after the events of "the cage". Not sure will they set this show in the same time or will they go back to the start when Spock first joined the Enterprise crew like in the Short Treks.

    I suppose they could do that...but I feel it is a lot more interesting to see how the events on the Enterprise pan out in the years leading up to TOS. Might also be a good way to finish up the series with Pike handing the baton over to Kirk.


  • #58
    pixelburp
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    Mention of The Cage reminds me of that episode where Pike learns of his fate during Discovery Season 2. Trek loves a good "messing with the timeline" plot as much as the next person so perhaps that's going to be the Big Bad or arc? Not so much Pike's ultimate fate but rather attempts to dick around with that fixed point in time. The broad antagonist being either someone trying to prevent or hasten that fate. Could be an interesting dramatic angle if Pike has to fight someone ultimately trying to prevent his mutilation. Would put pressure on his sense of faith & spirituality.


  • #59
    AMKC
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    Stark wrote: »
    Wasn't a huge fan of Doctor Boyce in the original. "Doctor or bartender?". Cringe.

    Gary Mitchell/Elizabeth Dehner could be cool.

    For the record, Discovery seems to be set after the events of "the cage". Not sure will they set this show in the same time or will they go back to the start when Spock first joined the Enterprise crew like in the Short Treks.

    I think it would be great if this show was set from the start of Pike taking command of the Enterprise right up to when it meets Discovery to see its perspective and right up until Kirk takes command of it. That would make for at least seven seasons I think.
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Mention of The Cage reminds me of that episode where Pike learns of his fate during Discovery Season 2. Trek loves a good "messing with the timeline" plot as much as the next person so perhaps that's going to be the Big Bad or arc? Not so much Pike's ultimate fate but rather attempts to dick around with that fixed point in time. The broad antagonist being either someone trying to prevent or hasten that fate. Could be an interesting dramatic angle if Pike has to fight someone ultimately trying to prevent his mutilation. Would put pressure on his sense of faith & spirituality.

    Can't say I would be mad about that. I hope they go for an episodic format but that they develop all the main characters along the way too. It does not need a season long big bad. Sure give us someone like the Klingons but not the Klingons and defiantly not the Romulans as they have been done enough. Maybe the Nausicans or some other race that we heard a small bit about but do not know much about.

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  • #60
    pixelburp
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    AMKC wrote: »
    Can't say I would be mad about that. I hope they go for an episodic format but that they develop all the main characters along the way too. It does not need a season long big bad. Sure give us someone like the Klingons but not the Klingons and defiantly not the Romulans as they have been done enough. Maybe the Nausicans or some other race that we heard a small bit about but do not know much about.

    You can have both: I'm not advocating a purely serialised approach - but the reality is Episodic TV in its purist form, seen in TNG, is functionally dead. But you still have plenty of shows with more of a "case of the week" structure, where the episodes are bookended by the continuing Big Bad or main Arc. So while still visiting Strange New Worlds, there could be a lingering presence related to Pike's future. Just the fact it was set up as a big Character Moment in season 2 of Disco, it'd be a little passing strange if it's not integrated in his own show.


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  • #61
    Spon Farmer
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    OSI wrote: »
    Much rumoured spin off series starring Pike confirmed:

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/05/star-trek-will-go-to-strange-new-worlds-in-new-spinoff-series/?amp=1

    How the hell did I miss this announcement?

    Holy ****, this is fantastic news.

    Thought it was never going to happen.


  • #62
    Spon Farmer
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    You can have both: I'm not advocating a purely serialised approach - but the reality is Episodic TV in its purist form, seen in TNG, is functionally dead. But you still have plenty of shows with more of a "case of the week" structure, where the episodes are bookended by the continuing Big Bad or main Arc. So while still visiting Strange New Worlds, there could be a lingering presence related to Pike's future. Just the fact it was set up as a big Character Moment in season 2 of Disco, it'd be a little passing strange if it's not integrated in his own show.

    Strange New Worlds and the comments in the announcement video suggest this a return to the space exploration of TOS as opposed to protecting the Federation from a big bad in Discovery or the type of story in Picard.

    They could do a "planet of week" and the story arcs be about the crew than an an epic threat.


  • #63
    Dr Bob
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Looking forward to this. There’s no legitimate way of watching the short treks unless you’re American is there? Thought maybe Netflix but none.

    They( Seasons 1's ) are hidden in the Trailers and more section on Netflix.
    No season 2 yet though


  • #64
    CastorTroy
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    https://tvline.com/2021/03/12/van-helsing-final-season-5-premiere-date-trailer-syfy/
    Paramount+’s forthcoming Star Trek: Strange New Worlds series has added the following actors to its cast: Babs Olusanmokun (Marvel’s The Defenders), Christina Chong (Dominion, 24: Live Another Day), Celia Rose Gooding (Broadway’s Jagged Little Pill), Jess Bush (Australia’s Playing for Keeps) and Melissa Navia (Dietland). Watch a video of the cast announcing the start of production
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ON8cDbmgw


    Looks like cast is 4 women to 3 men.


  • #65
    Rawr
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    https://tvline.com/2021/03/12/van-helsing-final-season-5-premiere-date-trailer-syfy/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ON8cDbmgw


    Looks like cast is 4 women to 3 men.

    Much like with Lower Decks season 2, I really hope that Kurtzman keeps his distance and lets someone capable show-run this. If they can get someone who can do a good job here, this could be good.


  • #66
    CastorTroy
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    They'll have Pike have his accident in the first episode then somehow bring Michael in to replace him


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  • #67
    pixelburp
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    Here's a thought, let's see how long we can take this thread without invoking Burnham for snarky giggles? :)

    Anyway, the meat of this production for me is the showrunner, so looking at this, seems like Akiva Goldman wrote and directed the premiere, with Goldsman and Henry Alonso Myers acting as co-showrunners with Kurtzman. Now, we can't know how involved Kurtzman will be, leaving the latter two as day to day chiefs, maybe. Goldman is ... ... well he's not great, with some serious blemishes on his writing CV.

    Myers is interesting though, cos he was producer on the underated The Magicians on SyFy, Ugly Betty, and worked on CSI so knows the world of procedurals - relevant for those hoping for more episodic stories. It's solid without the kind of CW sludge seen with Discovery's Michelle Paradise.


  • #68
    PhiloCypher
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    I'd gladly see the budget halved if it meant more room for stand alone episodes. Shorter seasons invite serialisation, and with so few episodes half of them end up servicing the season arc leaving little room for character arcs or interesting diversions. A longer season with, by necessity, a smaller budget, would force the writers to come up with interesting stories rather then relying on wizz bang special fx . It also wouldn't preclude having a seasonal arc , it would just leave the writers more space to paint outside the lines.


  • #69
    Rawr
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Here's a thought, let's see how long we can take this thread without invoking Burnham for snarky giggles? :)

    Anyway, the meat of this production for me is the showrunner, so looking at this, seems like Akiva Goldman wrote and directed the premiere, with Goldsman and Henry Alonso Myers acting as co-showrunners with Kurtzman. Now, we can't know how involved Kurtzman will be, leaving the latter two as day to day chiefs, maybe. Goldman is ... ... well he's not great, with some serious blemishes on his writing CV.

    Myers is interesting though, cos he was producer on the underated The Magicians on SyFy, Ugly Betty, and worked on CSI so knows the world of procedurals. It's solid without the kind of CW sludge seen with Discovery's Michelle Paradise.

    Hmmm....Akiva Goldsman. Some forboding to see people crossing over from Discovery. Had a look at his filmography now, and one thing that sticks out right away is his writing credit for the 1997 film Batman & Robin :eek:

    He's done some ok stuff...but there's plenty of bad there. I hope he doesn't get to write too many episodes.

    Hopefully with Myers something can be salvaged. I am however fearful that this will be yet another good concept on paper...that they end up trashing with feckless production handling.


  • #70
    Evade
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    If they're smart they'll look at all the ways STD went wrong but are now too far gone to change and not repeat the same mistakes.


  • #71
    pixelburp
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    Evade wrote: »
    If they're smart they'll look at all the ways STD went wrong but are now too far gone to change and not repeat the same mistakes.

    Lower Decks says otherwise. I'm happy to give this production the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise TBH. Books, covers n all that jazz.


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  • #72
    Evade
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Lower Decks says otherwise. I'm happy to give this production the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise TBH. Books, covers n all that jazz.

    Bad punctuation on my part. I meant STD's mistakes are too ingrained to do any significant changes now and SNW have an opportunity to look at them and not repeat them.


  • #73
    jmcc
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    Great news. Hopefully it will be the penicillin to STD's Burnhamitis. TOS was about exploration whereas STD seemed to be written by a bunch of people who thought that they knew everything but knew nothing about Star Trek.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #74
    pixelburp
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    A guest star has tested positive for CoVid, but apparently has had no effect on production.

    https://deadline.com/2021/04/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-crew-members-quarantine-guest-star-positive-covid-19-production-not-impacted-1234734642/
    An actor who had flown in to Toronto for a guest role on Paramount+’s new series Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, has tested positive for coronavirus.

    The person, who is believed to have come from Vancouver, had not made it to the set of the show. He had only came in contact with a few people during a fitting when the positive test result was received as part of CBS Studios’ rigorous testing procedures in accordance with the industrywide Covid protocols that have keep TV sets safe. As part of that, contact tracing was immediately initiated, and the affected person, as well as the few people that were deemed close contacts, have been quarantined. Noone else has tested positive at this time.

    According to sources, production on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has not been impacted, and the series is still filming.


  • #75
    AMKC
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    That's terrible. Hopefully it's not too bad just mild and they recover fully. I wonder have they got a stand in actor to do the part he was going to do or will they just change the story a bit?

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  • #76
    Need a Username
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    Can any give a guess as to when this show and Discovery Season 3 might be released?


  • #77
    CastorTroy
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    I guess to answer my own post from the Lower Decks thread after looking them up, I think Discovery will be after Lower Decks then Picard and Strange New Worlds. Looking on wikipedia filiming on Strange New Worlds is only due to finish in July.
    That's from me seeing Lower Decks has the August date, Discovery just getting 2021, Picard getting 2022 and this not having any date


  • #78
    corkie
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    ^^^ Prodigy may also have a slot in-between there somewhere

    Chrome text link: - https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/star-trek-movies-shows-paramount-plus-1125739/#:~:text=In%20honor%20of,Prodigy%C2%A0(Late%202021)

    "Set your phasers to stream—here’s all the new Star Trek content coming your way.

    Star Trek: Picard Season 2 (2022)
    Women In Motion: Nichelle Nichols, Star Trek and the Remaking of NASA (Documentary—June 3rd, 2021)
    Star Trek: Discovery Season 4 (2021)
    Star Trek: Lower Decks Season 2 (August 12th, 2021)
    Star Trek: Prodigy (Late 2021)"


  • #79
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I guess to answer my own post from the Lower Decks thread after looking them up, I think Discovery will be after Lower Decks then Picard and Strange New Worlds. Looking on wikipedia filiming on Strange New Worlds is only due to finish in July.
    That's from me seeing Lower Decks has the August date, Discovery just getting 2021, Picard getting 2022 and this not having any date

    I didn’t know Picard season 2 had started filming.

    Awesome but Strange New Worlds is the one I want most. I was hoping for a Pike series after only a couple Discovery season 2 episodes and more so after Spock appeared.

    Honestly cannot believe they made such a great decision to do it. Plus it will be a traditional adventure of the week series.


  • #80
    CastorTroy
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    Forgot Paramount+ is CBS Access. Thought they were separate.
    If Prodigy is good, it's a good job they're not relying on Nickelodeon's schedule since it will be airing there as well. Otherwise it would take about 5 months to air all 10 episodes.


  • #81
    Bobtheman
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    Have we any release date for this series yet?


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  • #82
    pixelburp
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    AFAIK, still nothing.


  • #83
    Justin Credible Darts
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    https://www.deviantart.com/gazomg/art/Star-Trek-Strange-New-Worlds-Poster-883296293


  • #84
    Rawr
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    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    https://www.deviantart.com/gazomg/art/Star-Trek-Strange-New-Worlds-Poster-883296293

    These new producers are *really* into the TOS Command Chevron, aren't they?
    It seems they try to wedge it into anything they can. I don't remember it having such prominent place in Trek marketing until recent years.


  • #85
    Justin Credible Darts
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    I used that logo making the poster, its not official yet, and may still be changed, but the chevron was used on set as seen on the back of the chairs here

    https://twitter.com/flying_lobster/status/1403142526341685253


  • #86
    pixelburp
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    Production has wrapped for season 1... A trailer can't be that far away?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ansonmount/status/1418824416864124929




  • #87
    AMKC
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117664659#Comment_117664659

    Hopefully sometime in the next month or two we will have a trailer.

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    Peace and long life.



  • #88
    Slydice
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    Casting annoucement and kinda clips.. ish.. from Star Trek day:

    https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1435784273529909248




  • #89
    fritzelly
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117866261#Comment_117866261


    Dunno why but I am so hyped for this (after the let down of Picard and Discovery, but I still enjoy anything Trek)



  • #90
    pixelburp
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    Uhura & Chapel; that is a surprise. I also find myself putting a lot of hype and hope into this show. It feels like it might be a chance for a do-over.



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  • #91
    CastorTroy
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    Is that the first time we found out Number 1's name?



  • #92
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117866461#Comment_117866461

    Surname at least, she had been referred to as Una before, both in books and on Discovery.



  • #93
    Evade
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    La'an Noonien-Singh? That won't be confusing at all.



  • #94
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867088#Comment_117867088

    That name can't be a coincidence, so it sounds like an attempt to shoe horn in needless continuity with Khan. They already had Uhuru, Chapel and M'benga, so I hope this isn't in the same vein as Spock and Burnham.



  • #95
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117867514#Comment_117867514

    I would take a stab that being a descendant, her arc if she gets one will be attempting to either hide her genetic differences - as seen in ds9 with Bashir - or battling the prejudice born from her past.



  • #96
    Evade
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    Are descendants of Augments still Augments?

    The only other thing I can think of is there might have been an unnamed character in the Cage that was supposed to have that name. Noonien Singh and Noonian Soong were attempts by Roddenberry to contact an old friend from his WWII service. Whether a tie in to Khan via rehash of Bashir or not it should be left out either way.



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  • #97
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117868236#Comment_117868236

    I'm presuming descendant too.

    The concept would be interesting for a single episode, but as the basis for a main character it seems be a bit forced and stretched thin.

    Also, doesn't it sound potentially a bit like the super strong security officer in The Orville? Have things come full circle?



  • #98
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    Will this be on the Paramount+ service in Ireland ?



  • #99
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003680#Comment_118003680

    I heard Sky have the rights for it if you already have Sky cinema. Not sure how true that is, must look into it.

    (paramount +)

    Post edited by TheValeyard on

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #100
    flazio
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    If its Nickoldeon it's most likely going to turn up on their UK channel which will require a kids subscription for Sky customers or a kids pass on Now TV.



  • #101
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005722#Comment_118005722

    Are you talking about Prodigy?



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