Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

breezy1985

For anyone hoping this show won't have the same influences as Discovery had from the likes of Paradise and Kurtzmann you will be delighted to know Robert April is black now.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013944#Comment_119013944

Was he a redhead before by any chance?

pixelburp

Was TAS ever canon? That was the only time we met April, right?

Going by the photograph it looks like it's from the first episode when Starfleet have to ask Pike to come back - he may not be a series regular as a result.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119014836#Comment_119014836

Up until the end of the Enterprise there were only a few episodes that were, including the one about Spock's childhood, but for some reason when the new group took over they canonised all of it which is a bit of a weird move since they went on to actively ignore canon.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119014775#Comment_119014775

Apparently that's like, totally, not a thing /s

pixelburp

I only watched up to the end of the credits so not a huge amount to go by (will watch the rest with the wife at a later point), but just the feel of the thing, straight of the gates, resonated better than anything from Disco/Picard. Efficient storytelling, a good sense sense of wonder albeit a little hokey - the episode is written (and directed) by Akiva Goldsman after-all ... so I'll gird my loins for the inevitable crap, flowery dialogue Goldsman can't resist.

Also, spoiler-not-spoiler: Captain Wynonna Earp! I know the actor has a name but I will only think of her as that lol.

Still makes one's eyes boggle to read the producer credits: 1 producer; 3 co-producers; 4 supervising producers; 14 executive producers. Madness. Hopefully we don't see the same inconsistent execution plaguing the other Treks. I'd love to know how many names in there are active members, or just heads sitting at the back of the production room.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020804#Comment_119020804

It's a big gripe in US movies where shows are created by a team rather than a person.

It's why shows like Expanse, GOT (before it passed the books), Killing Eve (book season), Fleabag, Handmaid's Tale (book season) were a huge success. The were the world and story of one (2 for Expanse) person. Often now when you see a movie or show tank the "created by committee" line won't be far away.

I'm not watching this until the entire 1st season has aired and reviews have it stand more to the Lower Decks than Dis-card of the world

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020882#Comment_119020882

I heard someone describe it as the only "true Trek along with Orville" which should suit some people 🤣

But waiting for the whole season to see if its more LD than Dis/Pic all I can say is "YOU ARE SMART"

pixelburp

I'm happy to check it out week to week, if the first episode pans out ok but the ripchord will be pulled the moment any smell appears. Certainly won't give it 6 episodes as Picard got

TheValeyard

I deleted my comment.

Will put in other thread with spoilers.

Rawr

Oh FFS, it's only on Paramount+ here in Scandinavia :(

I know I'm not pushed to get Paramount+ for it, but am I pushed enough to set sail? Ehg....I dunno, I like the ease of viewing on mobil apps. (I know tricks to make that work, it's just that it requires more effort than I recon I want to put into it).

Got Picard and more importantly Lower Decks here on Amazon Prime, so was happy with that. I might actually wait a couple of weeks and build a little buffer, watch it that way.

Stark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119022956#Comment_119022956

Same, I'll watch it at some point but having to hoist the jolly roger means it might be a couple of weeks or so before I get round to it.

AMKC

I enjoyed that first episode. Just hope it stays good. I think there is big potential for it.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119021061#Comment_119021061

Oh you should watch the last episode of it but ye mostly everything in between episodes 3 to 10 were just filler. 4 episodes out of it is all that was good.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023061#Comment_119023061

Naw, to hell with Picard has been my opinion. Invested 16 out of the 20 episodes and methinks that's enough time spent. Wasted.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023313#Comment_119023313

Well that is your choice. I enjoyed the last episode so much better than all the 6 filler episodes before it.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119022956#Comment_119022956

At least ye have Paramount+

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023557#Comment_119023557

Honestly, even knowing those episodes ARE filler annoys cos it means my time was further wasted watching a show that couldn't even construct a coherent, propulsive 10 episode story. That shouldn't be hard for any show; when I still watched the CW superhero series I could forgive wheel spinning when there was ~24 episodes to write - but 10? Naw. A waste of potential.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119024167#Comment_119024167

Oh I agree it is a disgrace that they could not right 10 coherent, propulsive episodes. It should not be hard to do if they were good writers.

pixelburp

Watched the first episode and that was good. Star Trek is back. Yeah lots of quips and showiness but damn I had fun watching that. Not a single dud beat among the cast and the ensemble really made a good impression.

Do we know how many episodes we can look forward to?

corkie

Anson Mount announced on Twitter July 24, 2021 that filming had wrapped on the ten episodes for the first season. He added that, "Old school fans are going to be VERY excited to see what we're trying to pull off with this one. Getting to do many things I've never attempted as an actor. So much fun!"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12327578/trivia/

@pixelburp Do we know how many episodes we can look forward to?

IMDb confirms 10 episodes for the season, 7th July for the 10th episode.

AMKC

That all 10 episode :( . It deserves at least 15 a season I think would be great.

I wonder when they start to shoot season 2?

Mormegil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119043928#Comment_119043928

Season 2 started filming back in February.

Acosta

Good start. I wouldn't say I'm loving it, but it is very watchable so far. And as most people are saying, it feels a lot more like star trek than all the other Kurtzman rubbish.

But I will reserve judgement until the end of the series. I have no faith in the people running star trek and after yet another atrocious season of Picard, I have good reason. A season, which in fairness, started off Ok enough.

Nothing much annoyed me about it. One thing that does irritate me a bit, which has been a feature of JJ Abrams star trek universe is the very casual relationships and interactions lowly cadets and ensigns have with senior officers. And I like Pike and this actor portrayal of him, but he's not far off telling everyone to just call him Chris. Also, Number 1 appeared a lot sterner and one that was not to be messed with it when she was in Discovery. I preferred her that way.

GSPfan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057812#Comment_119057812

Regarding the casualness of interactions between senior and junior staff… Totally agree. The fact cadet Uhura is just freely talking to Pike and Spock like they are work colleagues in an office environment is a bit too far in one direction for my liking. But…. It’s not something that bothers me too much. I just like it when Starfleet is presented more toward the military style of command structure.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060214#Comment_119060214

Uhura is no different to Wesley, Nog or Kim really. None of them should have been anywhere near a briefing room. The wonder kid officer has always annoyed me in Trek.

Personally though I would prefer they hadn't used the character as the closer to a fresh crew the better for me. I don't mind the Cage characters or Chapel and M'Benga as they were fringe TOS anyway.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060214#Comment_119060214

I'd be the opposite really. I know we get military vibes off Starfleet but it's really a vast peacekeeping and exploration armada. On a ship like the Enterprise whose mission is one of science and exploration I'd expect more interaction and stuff between senior and junior staff.

Serving on a defiant class or thunderchild starship could be very different alright.

Bobtheman

I enjoyed it. Im not as critical of discovery as everyone is here. Picard was passable.

I liked mounts portrayal of Pike. It has a Shatner vibe - masculine but vulnerable too.

It's good to have stand alone episodes. The way things have gone If I have a gap watching something I have to go back and refresh my memory.

I thought Lt. Kirk was going to be Jim but turns out to be the brother! Though I hear Jim kirk will appear season 2.

TheValeyard

Yeah, the standalone episodes mean I will actually go back and watch them. Like I still do with DS9, TNG, etc, etc

The long endless season makes it near impossible to go back and watch some good stand alones.

Can place on one hand the Discovery episodes I'd watch again.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060663#Comment_119060663

Stand alone will give you a lot more average episodes but a lot less terrible ones too. But best of all if you are flicking through channels they are far more fun to come across.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060685#Comment_119060685

Seven seasons, so far, of serialised stories and they've barely cracked average.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061453#Comment_119061453

I kinda meant in general rather than just about KurtzTrek

pjcb

pike has very tall hair/quiff

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119064799#Comment_119064799

A lot of American actors in shows have it not just SNW - looks a bit ridiculous to me, like they're trying to look taller

pixelburp

I dunno, the hair is so crazy it kinda works to emphasise Pike as the dashing, adventure captain.

JayRoc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119064807#Comment_119064807

The "Scott Caan" look

pixelburp

Finished up episode 2 and damn, it's nice to have live action Trek back. Greatly entertaining stuff, good characters, it's all good. Wasn't sure Uhura and Singh would work but both are killing it, the former especially with her self-doubt and charm.

While as my wife notes, Singh looks and acts like a slightly less angry Carmina Drummer. That's not a bad thing, mind you.

TheValeyard

They have done a fantastic job on the Enterprise, internal and external. It just looks gorgeous.

pixelburp

I'm not as down in the Discovery as others but hot damn we had been starved of good, Trekkie starships. LaSirena being a piece of geometric garbage. It's a damn good looking version of the retro Enterprise.

pc7

His hair reminds me of Kirk in the original series, he’s the same handsome kind of look off him, I like it so far.

pixelburp

Episode 3, and so good, so breezy and fun. A classic Trek plot / trope done well. Can't fault this show so far at all.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119097297#Comment_119097297

It was way better than I expected from reading the premise.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119097409#Comment_119097409

It has all been so solid and boilerplate- but meant in the best possible way. Fans wanted a good, traditional Trek show and we're getting it. I just hope people are watching it in the territories that get Paramount's bloody service - cos if this gets cancelled whole Discovery lives on, then all is chaos and ruin.

My only quibble and I think this is a symptom of our HD era, is some locations are way busier than others re. set decoration. The engine room has so much detail going on, various shots looked fussy, and lacking a good visual centre.

TheValeyard

Agree on the size of the engine room and buttons n screens everywhere,

But fcuk isn't it great to see a warp core and console.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119098399#Comment_119098399

We got some lovely closeups of the ships systems. Loved the retro planet set too.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119098477#Comment_119098477

Was wondering where it was; maybe an abandoned science or college campus. Mostly looked real and not an effect.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119098399#Comment_119098399

Its geometry too. I noticed there are angles and bevels and widgets and all sorts of decoration everywhere. But yeah, the overall feeling is great.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119098810#Comment_119098810

It reminded me of when sci-fi would just use a futuristic looking real life building. Usually some new college campus or business district.

A nice retro look all the same

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119098827#Comment_119098827

Aye, gotta respect a good Location Scout who can find these kind of places for Sci-Fi shows cos it always adds a little more of that important sense of the fantastic (unless you're a local, then you just see your college I guess)

Asked in episode 3 thread, but is there any sense online how this is going down with the hardcore or broad fandom? Even those singing praise of Disco? It surely has to be generating a lot of goodwill and word of mouth?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119099470#Comment_119099470

TrekBBS posters seem to love it. But they also loved Pic and Disco at this stage for the most part. Getting same level of love but none of the critics from what I can see.