Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Need a Username

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005685#Comment_118005685

Do you mean Sky are Strange New Worlds on one of their channels or talking about Sky having made a deal with Paramount+ ?

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008622#Comment_118008622

Yeah sorry. Wrong show.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008628#Comment_118008628

Sky made a deal for with Paramount+

I've no idea how it will affect the Netflix /Amazon situation.

Need a Username

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118010900#Comment_118010900

I’m only curious as to whether Strange New Worlds will be on Paramount+, not Discovery or Picard as I assume Netflix and Amazon both secured exclusive rights to the two shows for several years.

pixelburp

GAH, everytime this thread updates I'm all "ooh! Trailer??", then the disappointment that it isn't 😩😤😆

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118012678#Comment_118012678

I've honestly no idea for Ireland/Europe.

It's definitely on Paramount+ in USA, but broadcasting rights are different for over there. Think its just wait and see.

Evade

The blurb about P+ on Sky's website mentions Prodigy but not SNW. I wouldn't be surprised if they sold off initial international streaming to offset the initial cost of the series.

TheValeyard

There is a lot of money getting spent on Star Trek at the moment. New movies, Lower Decks, Picard, Prodigy, New Worlds and Discovery. Surely it would be too costly to keep all these going? Soemthing is going to get canned?

Spear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118013882#Comment_118013882

CBS want a constant steady supply to keep streaming viewers paying their subs, since the rest of their content is irrelevant. So they'll only cancel something when they have a steady replacement to drop right into the same slot. Their want their own MCU scale franchise and they'll throw money at it to get it.

Need a Username

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118013405#Comment_118013405

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118013405#Comment_118013405

Strange New Worlds would be my reason to sign up to Paramount+ on launch here.

I do have an interest in the old stuff they have in the US like Twilight Zone, Perry Mason and Key & Peele but I’d rather save that until I catch up on my Netflix and Prime.

Acosta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118013882#Comment_118013882

Kurtzman's job hopefully.

pixelburp

So apparently this has had its season 2 greenlit, to commence shooting in Feb 2022. Usually a sign of happiness with what was made so far but with Trek, who knows?

Slydice

w00t! 🙂

AMKC

That's great. When is it out again? Is it after Prodigy ends?

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118091491#Comment_118091491

Hold your w00ts son, we haven't even seen a trailer, let alone an episode.

If it weren't for Lower Decks, this show would be holding a lot of my residual angst for a good Trek show

Evade

They do keep renewing STD too, Pixel's right this has no bearing on the quality of SNW.

pixelburp

It was mentioned in the general thread, but this has already been renewed for a season 2; while perhaps more importantly, Season 1 will commence airing on May 5th:

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-lower-decks-strange-new-worlds-renewed-paramount-plus-1235156406/

TheIrishGrover

So it seems that they will be going along the lines of each series having 10 episodes:

• Disco (Boo)
• Lower Decks (Yay)
• Prodigy (No idea. Can't watch/listen to an animated Janeway voice)
• Picard (Ouch - As I'm on the fence)
• Strange New Worlds (Fingers Crossed)
• And..... Section 31? (Fingers crossed, but not hopeful, that it will be DS9 version instead of Disco version. Assume this is already dead)

So, assuming 40-50 weeks per 52 week year. (Don't know how Prodigy will fit in). That would be about right. Including breaks for Thanksgiving, Christmas, Summer etc. Prob have movies, repeats, "Special Events" ( Repackaged repeats) etc for these weeks.

AMKC

@IrishGrover Oh your missing out. The last 3 episodes of Prodigy have been really good.

It's doing good things. It's also very popular too.

pixelburp

Thread bump! Trailer?

No. No trailer.

😥

pixelburp

Well, until @Sad Professor figures out where that old thread went, might as well try again lol.

So. There's going to be a Noonian-Singh on the crew; that's a bold choice and ostensibly, a very reductive decision that suggests further treating of the IP as a sequence of memes - rather than stories. But I'm keeping an open mind: it's entirely possible this character will go the Dr. Bashir route, trying to keep her past & genes a secret; we won't properly know until the show airs.

Evade

You'd think if your last name was Noonian-Singh you, or one of your ancestors, would have changed it. You don't get many Hitlers these days.

TheValeyard

And here's the poster again.

Sad noises no trailer.

flazio

It's very JJA esque if you ask me. A non Trek fan might mistake it for a continuation of the Kelvin Universe story.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576889#Comment_118576889

I agree. Was Pike into horses? Maybe the poster is supposed to be Pike on a horse looking up at his Enterprise.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577369#Comment_118577369

They googled "Star Trek" saw the "wagon train to the stars" quote and thought wow that will make the nerds think we know Trek.

Its sci-fi Big Bang Theory style

eadrom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577369#Comment_118577369

Yeah, horses were mentioned -- https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tango

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577391#Comment_118577391

I dunno, marketing departments in TV and film nearly always make garbage posters; often outsourced and done on fractional budgets/timespans. I'd not assign any conspiracy to an art form long dead, or moribund at best. It's a crap poster but very symptomatic of things.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118574941#Comment_118574941

Singh would be a very common name though, not sure about Noonian. Maybe it was a misspelt form of Noonan and our favourite Eugenicist was part Irish. Plus it's 200+ years ago right? Who can remember the great villains of the Napoleonic era?

weetiepie

Where can we watch this, when its released?

eadrom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577548#Comment_118577548

May 5th. It'll be on Paramount+ which isn't available here yet.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577544#Comment_118577544

Um, Napoleon. Arguably a perfect comparison to Khan and the era is named after him.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577544#Comment_118577544

Wellington was the great villain surely.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577818#Comment_118577818

I don't claim good knowledge of that era but I chalk that period as one where Napoleon was as much a villain for political convenience, rather than a true criminal against humanity. His invasions of Italy, Spain etc. "nothing more" than the reach typical of dynastic leaders you can chart from Charlemagne onwards. Back when Europe's map still ebbed and flowed; it's sometimes crazy to think just how recent our modern national boundaries are.

Actual, honest to goodness genocidal maniacs bent on ethnic cleansing seem few and far between (except for the never out of fashion antisemitism, or anti Muslim programs in Venice etc).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577852#Comment_118577852

True. He seemed to be a class A shít. IIRC even to his countrymen, as I think, without googling, he led the charge against the Peterloo protests that massacred many ordinary folk (an early effort at enfranchisement within the UK).

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577891#Comment_118577891

I'm not sure the Eugenics Wars were about ethnic cleansing, at least not on the part of the Augments, it was more "we're better we should be in charge" à la Napoleon.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577986#Comment_118577986

Yeah but Napoleon wasn't that unique for the era beyond being quite good at invading (and also, apparently, starred Egyptology as we know it today with intentional dogs in Africa during his advances there), under the banner of "France" being better than the other abstracted ideas of nations (really just dynastic structures).

The eugenics wars was a question of one set of humans saying "we're literally better than you, you're genetically inferior". Going beyond mere politics. I don't think Napoleon's purpose extended to a sense of French being generally better, as a race. In fact, I wanna say the political structures added upon conquest were comparatively fair, with less emphasis on taking everything back to the homeland - unlike the British empire, say. (though I'm definitely off the map in terms of my knowledge now).

corkie

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars

It will be interesting how they explain the connection to the name? Another embryo? Or a descendant? Before the SS Botany Bay?

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118578083#Comment_118578083

Descendant apparently.

fritzelly

Subbing to keep up to date

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118578226#Comment_118578226

You can just press the Star beside the thread title. You don't have to post to follow.

Rawr

Had a look at Space Seed and they might get away with a Khan relative being known about.

In the TOS episode several members of crew including Scotty and McCoy appeared to already know of Khan as a historic figure. It took them a while to identify Khan himself, but he was no secret pre-TOS. No-one knew what had happened to Khan, and he wasn’t expected to be on the ancient SS Botany Bay.

So what they need to avoid, is mentioning the Boteny Bay itself or somehow keeping this from Spock.

However knowing Kurtzman, they’ll find Boteny Bay actually have Khan onboard, somehow defeat him (using La’an somehow) load him back onto Boteny Bay and then get Spock to pinky-swear to never mention this again…especially if the Enterprise finds that ship again some point in the near future.

That sounds silly…but I’m not confident on it being silly enough for him…

Sad Professor

I know we all have an image in our heads of what the show is going to be like (something much closer to traditional Trek) but neither Discovery or Picard were made by people who seemed to have any proper knowledge let alone desire to be able to make such a show. I expect they will once again do some time travel or alternate universe shenanigans to free themselves from having to deal with the prime timeline's continuity and those types of storylines.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586327#Comment_118586327

Yep your probably right. We can only hope they do not do and we get some good live Star Trek. Great to see you found the old thread again. Well done.

ilovesmybrick

https://twitter.com/GaryGorn/status/1493648149294034948?s=20&t=gyKwD5oEvnKmzosqy7hdkg

I have to say, I quite like the update of the bridge. Keeps the feel of the original while looking new. I'm not a big fan of the DISCO era ships, but I think they did an excellent job on the reimagined Constitution class. Hopefully a sign of good things ahead.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648158#Comment_118648158

I remember when I first saw this on Discovery and wondered why this wasn't the aesthetic we got from episode one.

pixelburp

It looks great; a good mixture of the original design and something more high definition. Good cast, good production design ... we just need the scripts now.

Evade

I think you're asking too much there @pixelburp

TheValeyard

Looks great. Just hoping the bridge is not emotional and starts crying.

Slydice

Looks good! 🙂

AMKC

Looks nice alright. Hopefully it is not just all about big explosions and save the Galaxy or Universe for a season like Discovery. Hopefully we get good weekly stories now with some character development for the whole crew too that continues throughout the season or seasons.

Slydice

Trailer! Not giving away a lot but it feels good:

https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1501633921548754946