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Charisteas · 06-09-2010 5:56am

Why was The Honky Tonk Man a heel? He was a parody of Elvis, and everyone loved Elvis, surely he would have made more money for the WWF as a babyface, selling Elvis t-shirts and those Elvis style sunglasses.

jaykhunter · 06-09-2010 12:17pm

Charisteas wrote: »

Why was The Honky Tonk Man a heel? He was a parody of Elvis, and everyone loved Elvis, surely he would have made more money for the WWF as a babyface, selling Elvis t-shirts and those Elvis style sunglasses.

The short of it was that the crowd didn't respond positively enough to him as a face, more that he's just a lame impostor, and did much more so as a heel.

Found this on wikipedia

1986 - Originally pushed as a face wrestler with an Elvis impersonator gimmick, Honky soon cut a series of promos that aired on the WWE's syndicated programming asking fans for a "vote of confidence." The results came back negative, and it was not long before Honky became a cocky heel and took on Jimmy "Mouth of the South" Hart as his manager. Hart was billed as "The Colonel" for Honky's matches, a reference to Col. Tom Parker.

So it sounds like the crowd didn't warm to his gimmick at all. Maybe it's because he wasn't that pretty, or couldn't dance or sing!!

1987 - Heel Savage was champion and challenged by the face Honky. During that match, Savage nearly defeated Honky until Honky's allies, the Hart Foundation (who had interfered throughout the match), ran into the ring and brutally attacked Savage, getting Honky disqualified. Savage's valet, Miss Elizabeth, attempted to stop the carnage but Honky shoved her down and she fled to the locker room; meanwhile, Honky completed his attempt to break his guitar over Savage's head

So my guess is that he wasn't over as a face and they just kept going back to a heel persona.

Wrestled on the indies as a face (although in 2000, it'd be a nostalgia-face reaction)

He returned for a stint in 2008 to WWE as a comedy face/heel.

CMpunked · 06-09-2010 12:22pm

Who came up with the idea of David arquette winning the world title in wcw?

jaykhunter · 06-09-2010 12:53pm

CMpunked wrote: »

Who came up with the idea of David arquette winning the world title in wcw?

FIRE R _ S S _ !

Fill in the blanks

He defended him booking Aquette as champion, saying that it got into the newspapers the next day, and saying that since people are still talking about it today, it had it's intended effect -- getting people talking about WCW -- and it was a money-maker for sure; that you can't "buy" that kind of mainstream publicity.

He thinks that people giving out how f'n stupid ruining your World title was actually good for WCW, because you were talking about WCW....despite that mortally damaging the credibility of the only title that mattered....well, barely a year later, WCW was out of business.

CMpunked · 06-09-2010 1:22pm

Cheers for that.
My follow up question was there any sense in the whole thing but you've answered that too lol

Tribesmen7 · 06-09-2010 5:27pm

I stopped watching wrestling sometime around 1996 mainly because the show was aimed at kids and I grew out of the WWE at the time and for a short while after. I think the final straw turned out to be the Fake Razor Ramon and Diesel. I don't remember much about them so my question is when JR brought in fake Diesel and Ramon did the WWE as a whole push them as the same men that had previously played the characters and in doing so insult the intelligence of the fans or was it a storyline where heel JR brought them in and they were always acknowledged as being different people.

Charisteas · 06-09-2010 7:04pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

The short of it was that the crowd didn't respond positively enough to him as a face, more that he's just a lame impostor, and did much more so as a heel.

That makes sense, thanks

Butch Cassidy · 07-09-2010 2:53pm

Tribesmen7 wrote: »

did the WWE as a whole push them as the same men that had previously played the characters and in doing so insult the intelligence of the fans or was it a storyline where heel JR brought them in and they were always acknowledged as being different people.

The WWF of course owned the copyright to the Diesel and Razor Ramon and everything about them, probably down to the outfits. In the outset hell JR was talking about bring Diesel and Razor back in but he neglected to mention that Scott Hall and Kevin Nash wouldn't be coming back to the WWF. I think Vince mentioned it a few times in his commentary that these guys were under contract elsewhere - 1996 was pretty much the first time the WWF ever acknowledged the competition which was fairly historic in itself.

Eventually then when JR unveiled his new Razor and Diesel it was acknowledged by everyone that they weren't Hall or Nash and JR in his commentary tried desperately to put them over saying how talented they were and I think even hinting that they were better than the previous wrestlers who occupied the monikers.

Short answer: yes it was acknowledged as soon as they were shown on camera that they weren't Hall or Nash and JR worked overtime to try and get them over by saying they were better than Hall/Nash.

Charisteas · 08-09-2010 6:17pm

A couple of TNA questions.

Is RVD legitimately injured? And when is he scheduled back? Didn't want to ask in any of the TNA threads or Google it because I haven't yet seen the PPV from last Sunday and want to avoid spoilers.

And what's the story with Daffney? I heard on a Canadian wrestling radio show that she was released, yet nothing about it on her Wikipedia page. Again want to avoid wrestling websites until I'm up to date on my TNA viewing.

glenjamin · 08-09-2010 6:38pm

Charisteas wrote: »

Is RVD legitimately injured? And when is he scheduled back? Didn't want to ask in any of the TNA threads or Google it because I haven't yet seen the PPV from last Sunday and want to avoid spoilers.

No he just wanted some time off. Think he'll be back within a couple of months.

MightyMighty737 · 08-09-2010 6:39pm

Why is Sheamus billed as the first born Irish champ?

Has there been a 2nd/3rd Gen. Irish champion, or someone with an Irish gimmick/

Charisteas · 08-09-2010 6:52pm

MightyMighty737 wrote: »

Why is Sheamus billed as the first born Irish champ?

Has there been a 2nd/3rd Gen. Irish champion, or someone with an Irish gimmick/

I thought it was "First Irish born champ", not "First born Irish champ".

And there has been at least one 4th Generation Irish champion - his name is Vincent Kennedy McMahon

Charisteas · 08-09-2010 6:54pm

glenjamin wrote: »

No he just wanted some time off. Think he'll be back within a couple of months.

Thanks. Sounds like a slap in the face to TNA, he has only been in the company for 6 months, and they gave him the WHC, yet he still wanted time off. And during an ECW storyline too

glenjamin · 08-09-2010 6:55pm

Charisteas wrote: »

And when is he scheduled back?

Actually he returned at last night Impact tapings.

barura · 08-09-2010 7:13pm

How much does a 20 foot by 20 foot ring cost? And where can you get them?

chordtype · 08-09-2010 7:27pm

barura wrote: »

How much does a 20 foot by 20 foot ring cost? And where can you get them?

I suspect quite a lot and Highspots.com

geeky · 08-09-2010 9:02pm

glenjamin wrote: »

No he just wanted some time off. Think he'll be back within a couple of months.

Actually, my understanding was that his deal had a set number of dates in it and, by using him on loads of house shows, TNA had almost used their alloted dates up entirely. There's a similar situation with flair, and they're paying him a good 'per appearance' fee now, but they didn't want to do the same with RVD.

Machismo Fan · 08-09-2010 9:36pm

geeky wrote: »

Actually, my understanding was that his deal had a set number of dates in it and, by using him on loads of house shows, TNA had almost used their alloted dates up entirely. There's a similar situation with flair, and they're paying him a good 'per appearance' fee now, but they didn't want to do the same with RVD.

So they take him off TV for just under four weeks? Personally, and this is nothing but a personal opinion with no sourced fact but knowing RVD's ego, I think he didn't want to drop the title. The situation was far too peculiar for me. He's running through dates too quickly so you take the title off him and pull him off TV for a month to deal with it? That doesn't really add up to me.

CMpunked · 09-09-2010 1:23am

Machismo Fan wrote: »

So they take him off TV for just under four weeks? Personally, and this is nothing but a personal opinion with no sourced fact but knowing RVD's ego, I think he didn't want to drop the title. The situation was far too peculiar for me. He's running through dates too quickly so you take the title off him and pull him off TV for a month to deal with it? That doesn't really add up to me.

They done that with foley.
(except the title bit)

geeky · 13-09-2010 11:02am

Machismo Fan wrote: »

So they take him off TV for just under four weeks? Personally, and this is nothing but a personal opinion with no sourced fact but knowing RVD's ego, I think he didn't want to drop the title. The situation was far too peculiar for me. He's running through dates too quickly so you take the title off him and pull him off TV for a month to deal with it? That doesn't really add up to me.

I know, it's totally nonsensical, but this is TNA, where Vince Russo has a writing job. I suppose it may have been partly for his own good after the 'rock stars' rant - the temptation to potato him must be profound.

Just be grateful the ninjas didn't get him. God I hate those guys.

D2D · 13-09-2010 11:38am

Machismo Fan wrote: »

So they take him off TV for just under four weeks? Personally, and this is nothing but a personal opinion with no sourced fact but knowing RVD's ego, I think he didn't want to drop the title. The situation was far too peculiar for me. He's running through dates too quickly so you take the title off him and pull him off TV for a month to deal with it? That doesn't really add up to me.

Well, here's 2 sources to back up the claim that TNA were running low on dates that they could use him without going over

jaykhunter · 25-09-2010 5:59pm

Quick Question : Has TNA explained why Madison Rayne and Tara are together? Tara was fired because she lost a match to Rayne a few months back.

Listen, even an off-hand 1-2 sentences explaining that their hate for Love/Sky is enough.

Machismo Fan · 25-09-2010 6:09pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Quick Question : Has TNA explained why Madison Rayne and Tara are together? Tara was fired because she lost a match to Rayne a few months back.

It was explained on ReAction that Rayne thought Tara took her to the limit like nobody else has and that Rayne thought she had to bring her back as her bodyguard.

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Well, here's 2 sources to back up the claim that TNA were running low on dates that they could use him without going over

I konw that, but it just doesn't make sense because he only missed around eight dates.

Willie Stroker · 25-09-2010 9:11pm

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I konw that, but it just doesn't make sense because he only missed around eight dates.

8 DATES ?? Did you even think of house shows and ppvs . jeez its not speculation its fact , some of the tna contracts have certain number of dates they can fulfill they probably wanted to take him off now build a big angle with aybss and taking some time off as well .

Machismo Fan · 25-09-2010 9:30pm

Willie Stroker wrote: »

8 DATES ?? Did you even think of house shows and ppvs . jeez its not speculation its fact , some of the tna contracts have certain number of dates they can fulfill they probably wanted to take him off now build a big angle with aybss and taking some time off as well .

He missed five TV/PPV dates by my count and some house shows. Eight was probably a little low but he missed no more than twelve. The way it played out made absolutely no sense, even for TNA.

CMpunked · 26-09-2010 12:37am

Where did Austin get the whole "And that's the bottom line...!" line?

jaykhunter · 26-09-2010 5:10pm

Just watching Survivor Series 1992 (as you do) and Bret Hart is champion! He beat Flair for the WWF title in October in an (untelevised??) match! WTF; how did this come about, and is this match available on any WWE DVD?

chordtype · 26-09-2010 5:30pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Just watching Survivor Series 1992 (as you do) and Bret Hart is champion! He beat Flair for the WWF title in October in an (untelevised??) match! WTF; how did this come about, and is this match available on any WWE DVD?

Ha, I just so happened to be reading about this in the Wrestling Observer back issues that I'm working through. I'll try my best to summarise here. This is the info from the Oct 18 1992 issue. Hart won the title in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan at a television taping. It was supposedly a last minute decision as they needed to get a babyface over because of uncertainty about the status of then top babyface Ultimate Warrior. Warrior wanted more money and Hogan was gone for a while so they needed to get a new face over. Originally they were to announce the title change on their syndicated shows and some expected it to air in full on the 10/19 Prime Time show.

This is from the 0ct 26 issue. On the syndicated shows that WWF had they managed to insert an interview with Bret discussing his win. At the end of these shows a clip was shown of Bret holding up the title with a Coliseum video logo on the screen which led people to believe that the match won't be shown on tv but used to try to get people to buy the video.

Not sure if the match is on any DVD's though.

Charisteas · 26-09-2010 7:34pm

Machismo Fan wrote: »

It was explained on ReAction that Rayne thought Tara took her to the limit like nobody else has and that Rayne thought she had to bring her back as her bodyguard.

Is Reaction worth watching, storyline wise?

Machismo Fan · 26-09-2010 7:41pm

Charisteas wrote: »

Is Reaction worth watching, storyline wise?

I only watch it every couple of weeks but it fills in some of the gaps and is overall intriguing TV, the iMPACT! Player of the Week segments are particularly good for character development.

Butch Cassidy · 28-09-2010 8:50pm

chordtype wrote: »

Ha, I just so happened to be reading about this in the Wrestling Observer back issues that I'm working through. I'll try my best to summarise here. This is the info from the Oct 18 1992 issue. Hart won the title in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan at a television taping. It was supposedly a last minute decision as they needed to get a babyface over because of uncertainty about the status of then top babyface Ultimate Warrior. Warrior wanted more money and Hogan was gone for a while so they needed to get a new face over. Originally they were to announce the title change on their syndicated shows and some expected it to air in full on the 10/19 Prime Time show.

This is from the 0ct 26 issue. On the syndicated shows that WWF had they managed to insert an interview with Bret discussing his win. At the end of these shows a clip was shown of Bret holding up the title with a Coliseum video logo on the screen which led people to believe that the match won't be shown on tv but used to try to get people to buy the video.

Not sure if the match is on any DVD's though.

jaykhunter wrote: »

Just watching Survivor Series 1992 (as you do) and Bret Hart is champion! He beat Flair for the WWF title in October in an (untelevised??) match! WTF; how did this come about, and is this match available on any WWE DVD?

In Bret's book he says Vince told him it'd be televised but never was.

It appears on the VHS compilation Smack 'em Whack 'em and (I think) 1992 Year in Review - it might be on other Coliseum compilations too. A small amount of footage was shown in the Bret Hart DVD documentary. Bret apparently dislikes the match because Ric called all the spots. It's about 28mins long and finishes when Flair submits to the sharpshooter.

It was the 2nd such time the title changed hands that year not on PPV. A month or so earlier Flair raised his second WWF title beating Randy Savage in a TV match that was also shown on the 1992 Year in Review tape.

jaykhunter · 28-09-2010 9:08pm

Cheers, must track down that 1992 year in review tape!

Charisteas · 28-09-2010 9:58pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Cheers, must track down that 1992 year in review tape!

£2.99 here mate-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/WWF-1992-Year-View-VHS/dp/B00004CN3F/ref=sr_1_1?s=video&ie=UTF8&qid=1285707179&sr=1-1

chordtype · 29-09-2010 2:40pm

For god knows whatever reason I've decided that I'd like to buy HIAC this weekend. I know that it's on Sky Box Office and not Sky Sports but is there anyway to order it on UPC. Just got it in the new gaff and I can only see one PPV channel. Do I need to have the Sky Sports package?

Can I still order and watch this show?

jaykhunter · 29-09-2010 2:43pm

chordtype wrote: »

For god knows whatever reason I've decided that I'd like to buy HIAC this weekend. I know that it's on Sky Box Office and not Sky Sports but is there anyway to order it on UPC. Just got it in the new gaff and I can only see one PPV channel. Do I need to have the Sky Sports package?

Can I still order and watch this show?

Yeah, best bet is to ring up UPC to order the PPV. PPVs come on to channel 862

MitchKoobski · 29-09-2010 7:45pm

chordtype wrote: »

For god knows whatever reason I've decided that I'd like to buy HIAC this weekend. I know that it's on Sky Box Office and not Sky Sports but is there anyway to order it on UPC. Just got it in the new gaff and I can only see one PPV channel. Do I need to have the Sky Sports package?

Can I still order and watch this show?

If you do ring, call back the next day to make sure it was placed. I ordered Summerslam my first week of UPC (ordered it the day before) and waited until 1am to no avail. Arsebiscuit never placed it for me.

D.Q · 30-09-2010 2:02am

after Vince came out on ECW and made the speech about Chris Benoit, has there been any mention of him at all by anyone? even accidentally?

jaykhunter · 30-09-2010 2:42am

DieselQueen wrote: »

after Vince came out on ECW and made the speech about Chris Benoit, has there been any mention of him at all by anyone? even accidentally?

no-one's said the words "Chris Benoit" on TV since that ECW. However he did slip into one or two montages (eg when they were promoting TLC matches).....Right after benoit died, a couple of people started using/stealing the crossface much more frequently for some reason (HBK, HHH, Samoa Joe) which nobody appreciated!

There was a mention of Benoit on WWE.com when they were listing best WrestleMania moments. He has been on compilation DVDs since, but his name wouldn't be on the back of the DVD/match listings. If there's ever a match where he's in it, WWE will delete any audio commentary where they talk about benoit.

Crazy, huh?

jaykhunter · 30-09-2010 1:01pm

Watching a preview for the new AAA Heroes del Ring game, noticing it is looks like a obvious re-skin of TNA iMPACT's game.

Anyway, does AAA use a 6-sided ring in general? If so, how long have they been using it for?

2nd Row Donkey · 30-09-2010 1:27pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Yeah, best bet is to ring up UPC to order the PPV. PPVs come on to channel 862

Yeah you can get the PPV without having the skysports package. I ordered wrestlemania with UPC even though I had none of the sports channels.

But as the other guy said... always check its working a few hours before hand and if its not ring them immediately, you won't get any support from UPC at midnight when the show starts.

A preview programme usually runs for a few hours beforehand, so you should see that on the PPV channel and if you don't ring them asap

D.Q · 20-10-2010 4:23pm

alright lads.

Who called hhh an asshole during some hall of fame speech? they said something like "theres hhh, are you still an asshole?" cant seem to find that vidyo.

geeky · 20-10-2010 9:53pm

Charisteas wrote: »

Sorry for going OT but I love the plug - 'who did what to who'. The ronseal approach to wrestling vids, class.

Jamie OD · 21-10-2010 3:59pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Watching a preview for the new AAA Heroes del Ring game, noticing it is looks like a obvious re-skin of TNA iMPACT's game.

Anyway, does AAA use a 6-sided ring in general? If so, how long have they been using it for?

The AAA game is similar to TNA Impact, but it is not the same game engine with different skins. It's pretty fun but very odd at how slow the Luchadors are, even when running.

AAA started using the six sided ring back around 2000 or so. I think it was them using the new type of ring that inspired TNA to try it out when Impact began.

Butch Cassidy · 25-10-2010 9:52pm

DieselQueen wrote: »

alright lads.

Who called hhh an asshole during some hall of fame speech? they said something like "theres hhh, are you still an asshole?" cant seem to find that vidyo.

Was that during Ric Flair's induction in 2008? Was it from the crowd? I don't know who it was anyway...

geeky wrote: »

Sorry for going OT but I love the plug - 'who did what to who'. The ronseal approach to wrestling vids, class.

Yeah a lot of those compilation tapes had some dreadfully garish cheesy artwork.

tdv123 · 16-11-2010 5:08pm

Question about Jerry Lawlers early days in the WWE.

I know his first real feud was with Bret in mid 93 but he was there for quite a while before that. Late 92 I think it was when he arrived.

Can anyone remember the angle for his debut? Was it something to do with him being friends with Bobby Henan or something like that?

And also when did he first start doing commentary? I remember him being at the table on a few of the last Prime Time shows but I'm not sure if he was actually commentating on matches that early was he?

Someone help refresh my memory please.

CMpunked · 16-11-2010 5:15pm

going by wiki:

Lawler began his WWF career in December 1992 as an announcer on WWF Superstars of Wrestling.[2][5] From 1993 to 1995, he feuded with Bret Hart and the rest of the Hart family. The feud began at King of the Ring when Lawler interrupted Hart's victory ceremony and attacked Bret.[2][6] Lawler claimed that he was the only true king in the World Wrestling Federation (WWF), and the two were scheduled to wrestle at SummerSlam to settle the dispute. At the event, however, Lawler came to the ring on crutches and claimed that he could not wrestle because of injuries suffered in a car accident.[7] Hart faced Lawler's "court jester", Doink the Clown instead, and beat him by submission. Lawler then attacked Hart, revealing that he was not injured.[7] Hart defeated Lawler by submission but refused to release the Sharpshooter. As a result, the referee reversed the decision and awarded the title of "Undisputed King of the World Wrestling Federation" to Lawler.[8]

CMpunked · 16-11-2010 5:18pm

Heres some more details:

In 1992, Lawler and Jarrett would engage in an incredible feud with the Moondogs over those tagteam titles. The feud lasted for most of 1991 and 1992 and would earn Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Feud of the Year for 1992. It was during the summer of 1992 that the WWF came to Memphis and Lawler and Jarrett announced on Memphis television that they would be in attendance. Lawler accompanied Jarrett to the show, and watched as Jeff lept the guardrail and challenged Bret Hart for an Intercontinental title match.
While Lawler battled WWF superstars in Memphis, he also began to appear on WWF television, initially as an announcer, joining Vince McMahon on WWF Superstars of Wrestling. However, he could not let his title of the King of Wrestling go unchallenged and attacked Hart after the Hitman won the 1993 King of the Ring tournament. The attack led to a feud that lasted for months. Not only would Lawler battle Hart but he would insult Hart's parents (Stu and Helen) and even bring in his "Demented Dentist" Isaac Yankem (now known as Kane). Even a brief departure from the WWF in late 1993 due to legal problems did little to derail the Hart-Lawler feud.

jaykhunter · 16-11-2010 6:28pm

I should mention that Lawler used to cut vicious, scathing promos on Vince's child-friendly WWF whilst he was in the USWA. He was a serious heel. When USWA was turned into basically a feeder-system for the WWF in the early-mid 90s, Lawler was brought in to the WWF, and as punishment, was given a comedy persona and storylines (eg with midgets - dink, wink, pink; having to suck his own smelly toe etc)

CMpunked · 23-11-2010 2:25am

Talking to a friend earlier this evening and WCW came up.

An angle i remember (that my friend denies remembering, thus not existing.. :rolleyes:) is when ric flair was making his son david like the runt of the liter.

Making him play in a lake in the woods instead of their ma-husive private pool and that.

But the question is, does anyone remember when this was roughly?

Jolt2007 · 28-11-2010 1:46am

One thing I've been wondering recently is what do the young kids watching these days actually think of it? Do they actually get into it and believe it as most of us did when we were nippers? What with all the stipulations these day meaning so little do they actually care when Cena gets fired for example? If anyone has any first hand experience with a youngster I think it'd be interesting to hear.

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