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    #482
    Louis Friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Louis Friend


    Buer wrote: »
    Tuilagi and Marler would be the most likely ones that would come to mind. The coaching staff have already stated that they brought up Tuilagi in their first selection meeting.

    Another one (and far more left field) would be George Kruis who is playing rugby, fully fit and was a test Lion on the last tour.

    I think the Kruiser’s relative humiliation in the 1st Test where he was bossed physically will count against him. I assume the Zebo references from others are a joke. I can’t see Chris Farrell travelling either.

    Keenan has done so well this season he has to be in the mix.

    Keith Earls could become one of the few Lions to tour the same place twice.


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    #483
    razorblunt
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    Cosmo Kramer wrote: »
    I suspect, while they may be considered, in the end few if any players from outside the current international groups will be selected. Anyone hoping for Cooney or Chris Farrell or the likes to be picked will be disappointed I think. Especially with Townsend in the selection group batting for mediocre Scottish players at ever opportunity - Ali Price, Chris Harris, Zander Fagerson and the likes. The limited squad size will also work against less versatile players, especially in the back line. Keenan for example has done well but it's hard to see him travelling unless there are drop outs in his position.

    The shouting for Chris Harris from the Scots seems to be down to the fact he can ... tackle. That's about it.
    Its literally the one thing you'd be assured any center selected for the Lions can do.

    A strange bunch, the Scots.


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    #484
    Buer
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    The shouting for Chris Harris from the Scots seems to be down to the fact he can ... tackle. That's about it.
    Its literally the one thing you'd be assured any center selected for the Lions can do.

    A strange bunch, the Scots.

    The head and defence coaches for Scotland are the attack and defence coach for the Lions. Harris is definitely going to be discussed. There's no stand out option at 13 at all for the Lions. Davies played at 12 for the 6N. North is a winger filling in there. Slade is good but not great. Ringrose's form waned and then he shipped an injury.

    I'd imagine we're looking at JD or Henshaw in the 13 jersey as it stands unless Tuilagi proves his fitness in the next 2-3 weeks and they might bring him even if he doesn't!


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    #485
    penybont exile
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    The 1971 Lions captain John Dawes passed away earlier today.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/apr/16/john-dawes-wales-and-british-irish-lions-legend-dies-aged-80

    A fine player, coach & ambassador for rugby.

    Attended a few coaching clinics run by Dawes for the local schools back in the late seventies ..... a guy who could teach a lot of modern players how to hold, run with & pass the egg ......


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    #486
    The Inbetween is mine
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    Ian McGeechan has named his Lions squad... 8 Irish players... but only Henshaw & Murray in the backs..I'd worry that he's fairly on the money there.


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    #487
    redmca2
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    Ian McGeechan has named his Lions squad... 8 Irish players... but only Henshaw & Murray in the backs..I'd worry that he's fairly on the money there.


    That was on March 29


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    #488
    The Inbetween is mine
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    redmca2 wrote: »
    That was on March 29

    Has he changed his mind?


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    #489
    sydthebeat
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    Has he changed his mind?

    He may well do before the squad is announced, as they're will have been more games played ;)


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    #490
    The Inbetween is mine
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    He may well do before the squad is announced, as they're will have been more games played ;)

    Not buying that...he's well aware of Sexton and Earls capabilities.
    He's seen enough of Ringrose & Keenan to know what they're about...
    Another game won't change his mind ..


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    #491
    sydthebeat
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    Not buying that...he's well aware of Sexton and Earls capabilities.
    He's seen enough of Ringrose & Keenan to know what they're about...
    Another game won't change his mind ..

    Hi Ian :D


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    #492
    The Inbetween is mine
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Hi Ian :D

    No I just get a little twitchy when I see someone who's steeped in the Lions...and most likely converses with coaches still....he may not have an inside track... but he might know how some are thinking is all I'm getting at

    "Gatland picks all Leinster backrow for Lions"
    could next week's headlines for all I know


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    #493
    sydthebeat
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    No I just get a little twitchy when I see someone who's steeped in the Lions...and most likely converses with coaches still....he may not have an inside track... but he might know how some are thinking is all I'm getting at

    "Gatland picks all Leinster backrow for Lions"
    could next week's headlines for all I know

    He gave his suggested squad when the coaching ticket wasn't even selected.
    With Scottish attack and defense coaches, and Welsh scrum and kicking coaches... It will be harder to get Irish players in without an advocate in the room

    I can guarantee there will have been changes even in gatlands head between march 29th and the announcement on May 6th.


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    #494
    The Inbetween is mine
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    There been a change in the test series games...it's now Cape Town for the first test.
    And then the rest in Jo'burg


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    #495
    Boscoirl
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    That’s a kick in the testicles for those that are still hanging onto the hope of travelling and have booked solo trips or the tour operators.

    Not that I expect anyone able to travel. But they seem reluctant to call it officially.


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    #496
    Buddy Bubs
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    Boscoirl wrote: »
    That’s a kick in the testicles for those that are still hanging onto the hope of travelling and have booked solo trips or the tour operators.

    Not that I expect anyone able to travel. But they seem reluctant to call it officially.

    A group of us that were there in 09 have given up hope of going. There's even a savings pot for it but we don't want to go now even if we could. Way too much hassle traveling and any craic would be gone.


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    #497
    Louis Friend
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    There been a change in the test series games...it's now Cape Town for the first test.
    And then the rest in Jo'burg

    Hi,

    Is that confirmed?

    Many thanks,

    Louis


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    Sheep Shagger
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    Boscoirl wrote: »
    That’s a kick in the testicles for those that are still hanging onto the hope of travelling and have booked solo trips or the tour operators.

    Not that I expect anyone able to travel. But they seem reluctant to call it officially.

    Does anyone really still think they'll be travelling?

    Agree its **** they havnt just said there will be no crowds.


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    #499
    Sheep Shagger
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    Louis Friend wrote: »
    Hi,

    Is that confirmed?

    Many thanks,

    Louis

    Hope the source is not rugbypass - clickbait central.


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    #500
    Boscoirl
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    Sheep Shagger wrote: »
    Does anyone really still think they'll be travelling?

    Agree its **** they havnt just said there will be no crowds.

    Probably not but one of the options we were given for our tour was to wait and see. Haven’t heard of any changes since. We went with the refund


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    #501
    Sheep Shagger
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    Boscoirl wrote: »
    Probably not but one of the options we were given for our tour was to wait and see. Haven’t heard of any changes since. We went with the refund

    Glad you got sorted, the tour companies won't be encouraging you to cancel on the off-chance it might still happen.

    Ya man from Rugby Travel Ireland wouldn't be the most ethical guy around (for example).


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    #502
    zambrotta11
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    Has anyone tickets for the game in Murrayfield? What’s the chance of that going ahead? And if they do go ahead will there be fans?


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    #503
    sydthebeat
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    zambrotta11 wrote: »
    Has anyone tickets for the game in Murrayfield? What’s the chance of that going ahead? And if they do go ahead will there be fans?

    I do.
    But no word yet as to crowds etc


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    #504
    Louis Friend
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    Yeah, me too. The UK should be fully open at that stage so I reckon so.

    If we’re allowed to go, it’ll probably involve quarantine at home (at a minimum).


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    #505
    Lost Ormond
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    Louis Friend wrote: »
    Yeah, me too. The UK should be fully open at that stage so I reckon so.

    If we’re allowed to go, it’ll probably involve quarantine at home (at a minimum).

    UK wont be fully open in terms of live events and crowds at them. but will likely be some people at game


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    #506
    Louis Friend
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    Lost Ormond wrote: »
    UK wont be fully open in terms of live events and crowds at them. but will likely be some people at game

    The UK’s Covid plan provides for full stadiums from 21 June.

    The Lions are playing Japan on 26 June.


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    #507
    Pudsy33
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    George North out with an acl injury, might give Ringrose a better chance of touring.


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    #508
    yerrahbah
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    Lions centre choices are looking a bit light


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    #509
    sprucemoose
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    yerrahbah wrote: »
    Lions centre choices are looking a bit light

    maybe bundee could go and complete the trifecta - getting sent off in the 6N, RWC and a Lions Test


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    #510
    thomond2006
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    The odds suggest Ringrose will be the beneficiary of this injury but I'm not sure he fits. Gatland loves his big centres and I think Tuilagi will have a great chance if he can prove his fitness.


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    #511
    sprucemoose
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The odds suggest Ringrose will be the beneficiary of this injury but I'm not sure he fits. Gatland loves his big centres and I think Tuilagi will have a great chance if he can prove his fitness.

    i fear you may be right but i really hope not, one of the most overrated players of recent times unfortunately. fantastic on his day but those days come about once in a blue moon in reality


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