Conor Mcgregor arrested again

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 5:16pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Simply not true.

There’s loads of Irish ppl who don’t know who Conor is ffs

They say who’s that knackjob with the beard who does be fighting. I’m taking major numbers of Irish ppl don’t know him

All the fanboys need to realise mma is niche and not even considered a sport by a lot of ppl. It’s a flash in the pan job

It’s like in the early 90s wwf had its 15 mins of fame and the likes of randy savage was on the late late. It came and it went.

I remember ppl honestly thought wwf was going to overtake gaa and rugby in this country. They genuinely feared that. Ppl would laugh at that now

Who do you be talking to and what hole do they crawl out of? Nobody with any sense thought WWF was going to overtake anything. It's not even a sport FFS (it's classified as sports entertainment).

Funny how you have both loads of conversation about McGregor and yet nobody knows who he is. Was it the legions of Chinese tourists looking for George Best? I think you've overplayed your hand here. Credibility gone. No more feeding

super_furry · 27-03-2019 5:17pm

George Best was sports star famous in Ireland and the UK, and known by sports fans in Europe in an era when sports wasn’t the all invading multi-channel behemoth it is now.

McGregor is an internationally reknowned celebrity who happens to sometimes be involved in sport. As distasteful as it is, I don't think there's any question he's a bigger deal than Best.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 5:18pm

xckjoo wrote: »

Who do you be talking to and what hole do they crawl out of? Nobody with any sense thought WWF was going to overtake anything. It's not even a sport FFS (it's classified as sports entertainment).

Funny how you have both loads of conversation about McGregor and yet nobody knows who he is. Was it the legions of Chinese tourists looking for George Best? I think you've overplayed your hand here. Credibility gone. No more feeding

When did I say “legions” of Chinese. It happened to me precisely ONCE

Loads of Irish have no interest in McG or the mma. The fanboys need to accept this

The Best funeral was massive. It was like a full state funeral

Would the same happen for McG whenever he passes on to the great octagon in the sky? Not a hope. It’ll be the family and a few event junkies and that’ll be it.

Effects · 27-03-2019 5:23pm

Ush1 wrote: »

He also bought a baby which was, ya know, a bit odd.

Loads of people adopt children. Is it much different because he's a rich footballer?

The Nal · 27-03-2019 5:23pm

This is a tribe that have never been contacted by the outside world before but the guy on the right still describes himself as "The Champ Champ".

Note - not "the fifth Beatle".

Take that George Best.

Effects · 27-03-2019 5:26pm

The Nal wrote: »

This is a tribe that have never been contacted by the outside world before but the guy on the right still describes himself as "The Champ Champ".

Can you break that down for me. I've no idea what your meaning is.

lbc2019 · 27-03-2019 5:33pm

Will Conor McGregor have an airport named after him? Doubtful

TerrorFirmer · 27-03-2019 5:34pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s loads of Irish ppl who don’t know who Conor is ffs

They say who’s that knackjob with the beard who does be fighting. I’m taking major numbers of Irish ppl don’t know him

All the fanboys need to realise mma is niche and not even considered a sport by a lot of ppl. It’s a flash in the pan job

Assuming this isn't deliberate trolling, the fact that you don't seem to like MMA doesn't magically make your objectively totally incorrect opinion, correct.

One of the most famous sports personalities in the world, he's from Ireland, and you're claiming 'major' numbers of Irish people don't know who he is.

ESPN have him listed as one of the most famous sports people in the world, based on several different criteria. I suppose they have it wrong?

It's nothing whatsoever to do with fanboys. It is literally just a case of objective fact. Claiming Conor McGregor isn't famous or that MMA is a flash in the pan are both completely at odds with the actual facts.

Conor is one of the worlds best known sports stars, and MMA is one of the most popular sports in the world. These are simple facts.

If you're going to make outlandish claims to the contrary, the least you could do is point to some form of evidence rather than spout nonsense.

If MMA fits your definition of 'niche', a lot of popular sports are niche too.

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 5:37pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Simply not true.

There’s loads of Irish ppl who don’t know who Conor is ffs

They say who’s that knackjob with the beard who does be fighting. I’m taking major numbers of Irish ppl don’t know him

All the fanboys need to realise mma is niche and not even considered a sport by a lot of ppl. It’s a flash in the pan job

It’s like in the early 90s wwf had its 15 mins of fame and the likes of randy savage was on the late late. It came and it went.

I remember ppl honestly thought wwf was going to overtake gaa and rugby in this country. They genuinely feared that. Ppl would laugh at that now

I just don't think you realize or ever will how big McGregor is. Leave the sports element out if for a minute. He is a global celebrity, like a famous actor or famous musician. Best is a huge name don't get me wrong but never had the draw McGregor has.

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 5:37pm

lbc2019 wrote: »

Will Conor McGregor have an airport named after him? Doubtful

Unlikely, although he still has been more famous globally over the past number of years than Best ever was.

I'm not asking you to like him (I don't), but people refusing to acknowledge he's incredibly famous worldwide (probably to a degree no Irish athlete has been before) are being obtuse.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 5:38pm

upinsmoke wrote: »

I just don't think you realize or ever will how big McGregor is. Leave the sports element out if for a minute. He is a global celebrity, like an actor, musician. Best is a huge name don't get me wrong but never had the draw McGregor has.

Best played in front of huge crowds for pushing on for 15-20 years weekly.

McG would find it hard to sell out Croke park twice. I admit he would probably fill it once.

super_furry · 27-03-2019 5:39pm

Bang out of order that.

King of Kings · 27-03-2019 5:42pm

Effects wrote: »

Well if they named one after this ....

No hope for you though....You're a bit of a dick with that pic..

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 5:43pm

lbc2019 wrote: »

Will Conor McGregor have an airport named after him? Doubtful

He’ll be lucky to have the airport jacks named after him the way it’s going!

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 5:44pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Best played in front of huge crowds for pushing on for 15-20 years weekly.

McG would find it hard to sell out Croke park twice. I admit he would probably fill it once.

Why do you keep just banging on about Ireland?

5th well know athlete in the WORLD McGregor is including NFL, Basketball, American Football in those stats.

Best wouldnt even be top 20 at the peak of his career

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 5:44pm

Have some class and remove that pic. FFS

jam_mac_jam · 27-03-2019 5:46pm

Horrible and tacky use of the picture.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 5:48pm

upinsmoke wrote: »

Why do you keep just banging on about Ireland?

5th well know athlete in the WORLD McGregor is including NFL, Basketball, American Football in those stats.

Best wouldnt even be top 20 at the peak of his career

I’m sorry but you appear completely ignorant about how famous the Man Utd team in general, and George Best in particular were at their peak

Busby and others had survived the Munich aircrash and managed to resurrect the club to win the European cup along with one of the most gifted footballers ever.

It was and remains one of the defining myths of professional sport not just soccer.

Mctapper is a nobody in comparison

And you know what will prove it. Let’s see who cares about him in ten years time!

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 5:50pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve had ppl from China stop me in Dublin city centre and ask where is the statue to him and have had to explain its in Belfast not Dublin

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 5:51pm

Like even the likes of hulk hogan. Nobody give a scuttery sh1te about him nowadays. And he was THE main man of wrestling

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 5:52pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I remember ppl honestly thought wwf was going to overtake gaa and rugby in this country. They genuinely feared that. Ppl would laugh at that now

My god you talk some sh*t. Or talk to people who talk some sh*t.

Nobody would compare WWF with GAA.

Rugby wasn't popular in the early 90's.

Nobody feared that.

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 5:54pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m sorry but you appear completely ignorant about how famous the Man Utd team in general, and George Best in particular were at their peak

Busby and others had survived the Munich aircrash and managed to resurrect the club to win the European cup along with one of the most gifted footballers ever.

It was and remains one of the defining myths of professional sport not just soccer.

Mctapper is a nobody in comparison

Best and all the other Man U players could have probably walked down the street in New York or Tokyo at the time without people recognising them.

Their fame was largely restricted to Europe. Football wasn't even a global game back then. It had penetrated the popular conciousness of Europe and Latin America, but that's about it.

Not taking anything away from Best's talent, and not to exalt McGregor and his behavior - but their relative levels of global fame are completely different.

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 5:58pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Loads of Irish have no interest in McG or the mma. The fanboys need to accept this

Do you realise that this has precisely zero to do with the point you're trying to make. Jesus. Lots of people have no interest in MMA, UFC or McGregor that's right... He's still well known. Still famous. His stupid ''retirement'' tweet made Sky News that morning. I've no interest in the Royal Family or the House of Windsor but I know who Prince Harry is. Don't have to be a fanboy to know him.

TerrorFirmer · 27-03-2019 5:58pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Like even the likes of hulk hogan. Nobody give a scuttery sh1te about him nowadays. And he was THE main man of wrestling

Nobody giving a crap about him, doesn't mean people still don't know who he is.

Hulk is 65 for christ sake, do you expect him to still be wrestling?

Most people don't care what Mike Tyson or Pele are up to these days either, but that doesn't diminish their achievements or change the fact that they're famous.

Kirk Douglas is 102, I suppose you think he's a nobody as well because he's not headling movies anymore?

I honestly don't know what points you're even trying to make, the goalposts are being moved all over the place.

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 5:59pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Crazy how many unique events happen to one poster that just so happen to backup the point they are trying to make. Everyone has strong opinions on MMA as a sport but don't know who McGregor is. Sure wasn't 1960s China nicknamed "Red China" cause they were all such mad Man U heads? I think Mao had a signed George Best poster on his bedroom wall.

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 6:00pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Best played in front of huge crowds for pushing on for 15-20 years weekly.

McG would find it hard to sell out Croke park twice. I admit he would probably fill it once.

Look at his PPV Box office records. Then look in the mirror. Then look in a dictionary and looks up the words ignorant and obtuse. Then look back in the mirror.

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 6:02pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Like even the likes of hulk hogan. Nobody give a scuttery sh1te about him nowadays. And he was THE main man of wrestling

Everyone still knows Hulk Hogan. He transcended wrestling.

27-03-2019 6:02pm

jesus christ

theres an entire thread where you cannot even breathe a word about this guys indiscretions

why dont the dickmeasuring contests go there so that we can definitively note what a scrotebag he is here unbothered

super_furry · 27-03-2019 6:03pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Like even the likes of hulk hogan. Nobody give a scuttery sh1te about him nowadays. And he was THE main man of wrestling

Yeah and you go anywhere outside of the UK and Ireland with a picture of George Best and one of Hulk Hogan and ask them to name them, chances are they'll be able to name Hogan.

super_furry · 27-03-2019 6:04pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Look at his PPV Box office records. Then look in the mirror. Then look in a dictionary and looks up the words ignorant and obtuse. Then look back in the mirror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 6:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

jesus christ

theres an entire thread where you cannot even breathe a word about this guys indiscretions

why dont the dickmeasuring contests go there so that we can definitively note what a scrotebag he is here unbothered

McGregor is a dirt bird. A scoundrel. A scrote. A famous one though, which is the topic.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 6:04pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Look at his PPV Box office records. Then look in the mirror. Then look in a dictionary and looks up the words ignorant and obtuse. Then look back in the mirror.

I would almost guarantee that if mcg had an event in croke Park he’d sell out one night maybe then the following night they’d be papering the town with freebies as his fan base wouldn’t cover 2 nights there.

Of course this is all dependent on the ticket price which would probably be exhorbitant

El_Bee · 27-03-2019 6:06pm

Why was he allowed to travel to the states if he was being investigated for rape?

The Nal · 27-03-2019 6:07pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Best played in front of huge crowds for pushing on for 15-20 years weekly.

McG would find it hard to sell out Croke park twice. I admit he would probably fill it once.

When Best was McGregors age he was playing for Fulham in the 2nd division, the LA Aztecs and Cork Celtic, who both had an average attendance of a few thousand.

Love Bestie but for fcuks sake lads.

The Irish attitude to anything new that we don't understand (eg MMA) is staggering and sad. Very Catholic. Anti progressive stuff.

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 6:08pm

El_Bee wrote: »

Why was he allowed to travel to the states if he was being investigated for rape?

The DPP haven't moved on him as of yet.

27-03-2019 6:09pm

This is ridiculous argument.
Posters seem to be confusing famous & popular.
Of course McGregor is the most famous Irish man at the moment. The World is different now, it's much smaller, the internet means information reaches many more people then say information over 20 years ago.
McGregor, imo, is a scumbag, he is also the most famous Irish man at the moment.
I have been to over 26 countries in the past 18 months, whenever someone asked me where I was from, everyone answered with his name. He is known everywhere.
That doesn't mean he is liked everywhere, it doesn't even mean that people like or watch ww whatever it is. But it does mean that he is extremely well known world wide.

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 6:09pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I would almost guarantee that if mcg had an event in croke Park he’d sell out one night maybe then the following night they’d be papering the town with freebies as his fan base wouldn’t cover 2 nights there.

Of course this is all dependent on the ticket price which would probably be exhorbitant

Your guarantees, as watertight as they are, mean precisely f*ck all. As I said, look at his multiple box office records for PPV. Khabib and Mayweather did unreal business. 2.4 million buys for the Khabib fight (in the US alone) and I think one of the top ever for the Floyd match, even if it was a circus. The numbers don't lie, he draws big and a massive part of that is his fame/infamy

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 6:17pm

bubblypop wrote: »

This is ridiculous argument.
Posters seem to be confusing famous & popular.
Of course McGregor is the most famous Irish man at the moment. The World is different now, it's much smaller, the internet means information reaches many more people then say information over 20 years ago.
McGregor, imo, is a scumbag, he is also the most famous Irish man at the moment.
I have been to over 26 countries in the past 18 months, whenever someone asked me where I was from, everyone answered with his name. He is known everywhere.
That doesn't mean he is liked everywhere, it doesn't even mean that people like or watch ww whatever it is. But it does mean that he is extremely well known world wide.

Surely Bono is the most famous Irish man at the moment in the world. If we are talking any Irish person not just sports ppl?

bodhrandude · 27-03-2019 6:20pm

Would Conoe McGregor ever go and feck off for twenty years.

Omackeral · 27-03-2019 6:20pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Surely Bono is the most famous Irish man at the moment in the world. If we are talking any Irish person not just sports ppl?

Nah, a penguin on the Ross Ice Shelf in Antarctica told me George Best is.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 6:22pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Nah, a penguin on the Ross Ice Shelf in Antarctica told me George Best is.

Best is certainly up there.

But probably bono “shades” it

Fr_Dougal · 27-03-2019 6:26pm

bodhrandude wrote: »

Would Conoe McGregor ever go and feck off for twenty years.

Probably not a 20 stretch, he’s no OJ Simpson.

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 6:31pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Surely Bono is the most famous Irish man at the moment in the world. If we are talking any Irish person not just sports ppl?

The most famous person we ever had in sport, Yes.

Most famous Irish person ever is debatable with the likes of Liam Neeson,Bono, Colin Farrell etc

magma69 · 27-03-2019 6:32pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Surely Bono is the most famous Irish man at the moment in the world. If we are talking any Irish person not just sports ppl?

I live abroad and pretty much any time I say I'm Irish, the only famous person from Ireland people mention is McGregor.

Rows Grower · 27-03-2019 7:04pm

xckjoo wrote: »

In Ireland/UK/Europe, sure I'll accept that. That name was made up by the media though to sell papers (in Europe).

Except Brazil apparently, which I'd argue is one of the biggest footballing nations. Again, how would you expect them to have heard of him in the 70s? They were probably only dimmly aware of the European cups happening. If they even cared.

Making up quantitative comparisons now? Why not a million?

I actually don't but that's not too surprising. Were you in Ireland when it happened by any chance? A good measure would be to see how widely covered it was across the world.

It's a tiny airport in a small country whos recent history is marred with violence and division. It was named after him because the locals loved him, not because he was so well known worldwide.

You do get into a lot of strange conversations that are strangely relevant to obscure discussions :pac:
China was going through the Cultural Revolution in the 60s/70s. They weren't watching European club football. They must have learnt about him since then. Which goes against your point about his peak fame.

In Ireland and the UK, sure. Worldwide, now or in the past? Doubtful.

Nope. Beechwood keeps saying he was the best player and Pele agrees so he must be the most famous. And Pele is from Brazil so I'm just pointing out that even his fellow country men (a particularly football mad group of people) aren't aware of him. Finally, I actually have some first hand knowledge of the topic and how it relates to the country. I'd suspect the same is true in Argentina for example, but don't know for sure so not going to argue it.
Best and Brazil actually came up through you in the other thread so weird that you're complaining about it now.

I was first to mention George Best but I didn't bring Brazil into the conversation.

You jumped on the Brazil bandwagon after I mentioned Pele thought George Best was the greatest footballer in the world. Which he was.

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 7:20pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

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I was first to mention George Best but I didn't bring Brazil into the conversation.

You jumped on the Brazil bandwagon after I mentioned Pele thought George Best was the greatest footballer in the world. Which he was.

Weren't you complaining that I kept talking about skill a few mins ago?

Rows Grower wrote: »

You're the one bringing levels of skill into the conversation, and Brazil for some strange reason.

Looks like it. Does "greatest footballer" mean something different here that isn't related to his skill on the pitch?

RCK1 · 27-03-2019 7:23pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Surely Bono is the most famous Irish man at the moment in the world. If we are talking any Irish person not just sports ppl?

Bono by far, for the past 30+years

Teddy Daniels · 27-03-2019 7:28pm

batgoat wrote: »

Yep, Keane was known to be incredibly respectable off the pitch. He's literally known in Cork for all the work he does in relation to guide dogs.

He’s mellowed with age

Teddy Daniels · 27-03-2019 7:30pm

RCK1 wrote: »

Bono by far, for the past 30+years

Acually it’s liam and he’s not even Irish he’s northern Irish.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 7:32pm

Someone asked for details on G Best funeral

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2005/dec/03/1

Does anyone seriously think McG will have anything remotely comparable when he heads off to the octagon in the sky?

Not a hope.

He’ll have his grieving family, a few randomers and maybe a few true blue Dublin pigeons.

Conor Mcgregor arrested again

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