Conor Mcgregor arrested again

ollkiller · 27-03-2019 1:37pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Did you miss the bit about social media?

Maybe i've missed the goalposts. Is it who's the most popular right now or who in their day was the most popular. I'm still saying Keane in both instances anyway.

eagle eye · 27-03-2019 1:38pm

RocketRaccoon wrote:

Madrid are a bigger club than United and not many would name that captain without googling, same with Roy Keane outside Ireland and the UK.

Please let's not get into which club is bigger. Can we just say they are both global Giants and leave it at that?

RocketRaccoon · 27-03-2019 1:40pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Please let's not get into which club is bigger. Can we just say they are both global Giants and leave it at that?

I have no problem with that. My point stands about a Madrid/Barca/Juve/United captain all being on about the same level, the majority of people around the world can't name them without Google.

eagle eye · 27-03-2019 1:40pm

ollkiller wrote:

Maybe i've missed the goalposts. Is it who's the most popular right now or who in their day was the most popular. I'm still saying Keane in both instances anyway.

Well you are deluded if you think that. No doubt that McIlroy, McGregor and Harrington are the three biggest Irish names now and almost certainly ever.

ollkiller · 27-03-2019 1:45pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Well you are deluded if you think that. No doubt that McIlroy, McGregor and Harrington are the three biggest Irish names now and almost certainly ever.

Right now it's McIlroy and McGregor for sure. Not ever though. Keane at his peak was known throughout the world (except USA) just like McGregor is now. Soccer is followed by billions of fans, MMA is not, granted McGregor's social media following is huge.

Effects · 27-03-2019 1:46pm

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Not only in Asia I'd say,reminds me of this...

Casuals :rolleyes:

27-03-2019 1:58pm

Have to laugh at the naive AHers that are unaware of the lengths your die hard McG fan will go to...

He'll hopefully definitely be our most famous inmate when he goes down anyway..
No can't think of anyone that might challenge him for it..

TerrorFirmer · 27-03-2019 1:58pm

Mr.H wrote: »

People who dont care about sports dont know who conor is. But i bet most still know who roy keane is

Haha. A blind beggar in a slum in Culcatta would know who Conor McGregor is at this stage.

eagle eye · 27-03-2019 2:01pm

Deleted User wrote:

Have to laugh at the naive AHers that are unaware of the lengths your die hard McG fan will go to...
He'll hopefully definitely be our most famous inmate when he goes down anyway.. No can't think of anyone that might challenge him for it..

Hard to believe how much hate you have for somebody you most likely don't even know personally.
How did he offend you so much?
Why would you be wishing somebody was behind bars before it's proven he did something wrong?

Naos · 27-03-2019 2:02pm

ollkiller wrote: »

Right now it's McIlroy and McGregor for sure. Not ever though. Keane at his peak was known throughout the world (except USA) just like McGregor is now. Soccer is followed by billions of fans, MMA is not, granted McGregor's social media following is huge.

Mcgregor has 2x Rory's twitter followers (7m compared to 3.5m) and 20.5x his instagram followers (30.7m vs 1.5m).

No, social media is not the be all and end all but it is a decent enough way to gauge popularity.

Ush1 · 27-03-2019 2:05pm

Can you imagine Roy Keane on Kimmel or Conan?:pac:

He's easily our most famous sportsman, and his fame is more to do with him than the sport itself. People seem to have trouble understanding that.

Sabrebo · 27-03-2019 2:06pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Who was the captain of Real Madrid in the mid 90s? Without googling.

Hierro

27-03-2019 2:08pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Hard to believe how much hate you have for somebody you most likely don't even know personally.
How did he offend you so much?
Why would you be wishing somebody was behind bars before it's proven he did something wrong?

Ah, not hate as such.. but, like, he's a tinker.. that he was being held up as some sort of hero was not a positive development in like the psyche of the country.. It's just depressing really..I do enjoy winding up his fans though..it's just funny..and easy.. they're fairly dim like...

robwen · 27-03-2019 2:11pm

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/26113613/espn-world-fame-100-2019

The Top 100 most famous sport stars in the world 2019

1. Christiano Ronaldo
2. Lebron James
3. Lionel Messi
4. Neymar
5. Conor McGregor
6. Roger Federer
7. Virat Kohli
8. Rafael Nadal
9. Stephen Curry
10. Tiger Woods

25. Rory McIlroy

TerrorFirmer · 27-03-2019 2:16pm

robwen wrote: »

The Top 100 most famous sport stars in the world 2019

1. Christiano Ronaldo
2. Lebron James
3. Lionel Messi
4. Neymar
5. Conor McGregor

And we actually had someone so deluded in this thread (or the other McGregor one, whichever) they were actually trying to argue that Roy Keane is more famous than McGregor.

Sabrebo · 27-03-2019 2:17pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah, not hate as such.. but, like, he's a tinker.. that he was being held up as some sort of hero was not a positive development in like the psyche of the country.. It's just depressing really..I do enjoy winding up his fans though..it's just funny..and easy.. they're fairly dim like...

It's not healthy to be wound up so much by someone you don't even know.

27-03-2019 2:18pm

It's not healthy to be gay for him either..

Subcomandante Marcos · 27-03-2019 2:20pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

And we actually had someone so deluded in this thread (or the other McGregor one, whichever) they were actually trying to argue that Roy Keane is more famous than McGregor.

In his pomp he was. By far. He was the captain of the biggest sport franchise on earth.

R.F. · 27-03-2019 2:21pm

robwen wrote: »

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/26113613/espn-world-fame-100-2019

The Top 100 most famous sport stars in the world 2019

1. Christiano Ronaldo
2. Lebron James
3. Lionel Messi
4. Neymar
5. Conor McGregor
6. Roger Federer
7. Virat Kohli
8. Rafael Nadal
9. Stephen Curry
10. Tiger Woods

25. Rory McIlroy

No sign of Sonia O'Sullivan at all in this list

TomSweeney · 27-03-2019 2:21pm

robwen wrote: »

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/26113613/espn-world-fame-100-2019

The Top 100 most famous sport stars in the world 2019

1. Christiano Ronaldo
2. Lebron James
3. Lionel Messi
4. Neymar
5. Conor McGregor
6. Roger Federer
7. Virat Kohli
8. Rafael Nadal
9. Stephen Curry
10. Tiger Woods

25. Rory McIlroy

Where is Novak Djokovic ?
Or Jon Obi Mikel for that matter....

Ush1 · 27-03-2019 2:22pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not healthy to be gay for him either..

:pac:

What do you mean he's a "tinker"? Do you think he's a traveller?

Sweet.Science · 27-03-2019 2:22pm

When the rumours 1st came out it was all bullsh!t and no way true

No its confirmed its him its he hasnt been charged yet

Then when he's charged it will be innocent until proven guilty

Then when he is found guilty it will be a miscarriage of justice

Peoples obsession with him is very strange

martingriff · 27-03-2019 2:23pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

And we actually had someone so deluded in this thread (or the other McGregor one, whichever) they were actually trying to argue that Roy Keane is more famous than McGregor.

Well Roy Keane is not a sports star in 2019 but I agree he probably is bigger now

TerrorFirmer · 27-03-2019 2:26pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

In his pomp he was. By far. He was the captain of the biggest sport franchise on earth.

The person was arguing that he's more famous today.

That aside, Conor's fame is not tied to the sport or a fanbase in the same way it is for many sports stars.

His fame is more akin to the Kardashians - people may not know anything about them, what they do, or why/how they're even famous.

But they do know of them, and Conor McGregor also fits into that category.

batman_oh · 27-03-2019 2:33pm

It's stupid to say he's not ridiculously famous
But it's not begrudging to say he's a knacker a$$hole

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 2:47pm

batman_oh wrote: »

It's stupid to say he's not ridiculously famous
But it's not begrudging to say he's a knacker a$$hole

I wish I had his brains and work ethic to be honest.

Hands down the most famous Irish sports star ever who is known worldwide.
No one can come close except mcllory

AdamD · 27-03-2019 3:00pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

And we actually had someone so deluded in this thread (or the other McGregor one, whichever) they were actually trying to argue that Roy Keane is more famous than McGregor.

They were arguing Keane at his peak. Ask about McGregor in 20 years and see how famous he is. Its not a difficult concept to undertand. Similar for the 'walking through Times square argument'. And again, America with its 350m people isn't even close to the be all and end all.

And for the Mcilroy arguments, a lot more people aged 40+ would know McIlroy than McGregor, they don't have instagram accounts.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 3:01pm

upinsmoke wrote: »

I wish I had his brains and work ethic to be honest.

Hands down the most famous Irish sports star ever who is known worldwide.
No one can come close except mcllory

If we are talking about peak fame George best beats both easily

Hell even nowadays there’s an international airport named after him. That’s real fame.

Overall keane is better known than both too. Not in America I grant that but worldwide

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 3:09pm

AdamD wrote: »

They were arguing Keane at his peak. Ask about McGregor in 20 years and see how famous he is. Its not a difficult concept to undertand. Similar for the 'walking through Times square argument'. And again, America with its 350m people isn't even close to the be all and end all.

And for the Mcilroy arguments, a lot more people aged 40+ would know McIlroy than McGregor, they don't have instagram accounts.

Even Keane at his peak is no where near as famous or as popular as McGregor is today. No where near. He is not just an Irish superstar, he is a worldwide superstar.

Pure tashte · 27-03-2019 3:09pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

In his pomp he was. By far. He was the captain of the biggest sport franchise on earth.

In his pomp, Keane was way less famous than his teammate David Beckham. Not to mention Zidane, Ronaldo and a plethora of other footballers (even the likes of Michael Owen).

I dislike McGregor but there's no point in denying he's become one of the most recognisable faces in the world, often for non sporting reasons. Keane will always be considered one of, if not the best sports people to ever come out of Ireland, but sporting achievement and international fame aren't necessarily the same.

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 3:11pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If we are talking about peak fame George best beats both easily

Hell even nowadays there’s an international airport named after him. That’s real fame.

Overall keane is better known than both too. Not in America I grant that but worldwide

Give it up. Best wasn't well known outside Europe. He played pre internet and mass media for a national team that didn't win much.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 3:13pm

xckjoo wrote: »

Give it up. Best wasn't well known outside Europe. He played pre internet and mass media for a national team that didn't win much.

Go and educate yourself. He was considered the best footballer ever !!

Pele said as much. He was MASSIVELY Famous worldwide.

a level of fame mcg will never replicate.

robwen · 27-03-2019 3:19pm

Sweet.Science wrote: »

When the rumours 1st came out it was all bullsh!t and no way true

No its confirmed its him its he hasnt been charged yet

Then when he's charged it will be inocent until proven guilty

Then when he is found guilty it will be a miscarriage of justice

Peoples obsession with him is very strange

Its not just McGregor tho Cristiano Ronaldo number 1 in the famous sports stars 2019 list has been accused of rape / sexual assualt by 5 different women over the years and the 2009 rape claim against him in Vegas there are leaked documents which have him admitting the alleged victim "said no and stop several times." Since October 2018 the legal representatives of the woman from the 2009 allegation have been trying to serve a summons to Ronaldo but can`t as they can`t get access to him, this is all being largely ignored by the media & football & Italian authorities & fans, primarily because he scores lots of goals & is widely famous popular

Ush1 · 27-03-2019 3:23pm

robwen wrote: »

Its not just McGregor tho Cristiano Ronaldo number 1 in the famous sports stars 2019 list has been accused of rape / sexual assualt by 5 different women over the years and the 2009 rape claim against him in Vegas there are leaked documents which have him admitting the alleged victim "said no and stop several times." Since October 2018 the legal representatives of the woman from the 2009 allegation have been trying to serve a summons to Ronaldo but can`t as they can`t get access to him, this is all being largely ignored by the media & football & Italian authorities & fans, primarily because he scores lots of goals & is widely famous popular

He also bought a baby which was, ya know, a bit odd.

Adamocovic · 27-03-2019 3:29pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Haha. A blind beggar in a slum in Culcatta would know who Conor McGregor is at this stage.

To be fair working in Italy and a lot never heard of him!

I mentioned it after news broke and had to explain who he is. But you'll get people who don't know him who don't pay interest to him.

Would definitely be one of the most famous if not most famous Irish sporting stars ever, but it's all falling apart for him.

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 3:31pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Go and educate yourself. He was considered the best footballer ever !!

Pele said as much. He was MASSIVELY Famous worldwide.

a level of fame mcg will never replicate.

I was in Bhutan last year (thinly veiled I've been to Bhutan post) and when I said where I'm from the cabbie immediately started talking about Conor McGregor.

It's unlikely a Bhutanese taxi driver in the 60s or 70s would know who George Best was.

He has a level of fame that no Irish sports figure ever had.

Tchaikovsky · 27-03-2019 3:34pm

Had the same when I was in Iran (thinly veiled I've been to Iran post) with the locals mentioning McGregor when I said I was Irish.

monkeybutter · 27-03-2019 3:36pm

Yurt! wrote: »

I was in Bhutan last year (thinly veiled I've been to Bhutan post) and when I said where I'm from the cabbie immediately started talking about Conor McGregor.

It's unlikely a Bhutanese taxi driver in the 60s or 70s would know who George Best was.

He has a level of fame that no Irish sports figure ever had.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves

There are undiscovered tribes in the rain forests of Madagascar who know who Padraig Harrington is

Yurt2 · 27-03-2019 3:42pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

Lets not get ahead of ourselves

There are undiscovered tribes in the rain forests of Madagascar who know who Padraig Harrington is

Well if a cabbie in a relatively isolated Himalayan country knowing who a person is isn't indicative of a certain level of fame I don't know what is.

The food is ****e there by the way, nice scenery though.

El_Bee · 27-03-2019 3:42pm

Sweet.Science wrote: »

When the rumours 1st came out it was all bullsh!t and no way true

No its confirmed its him its he hasnt been charged yet

Then when he's charged it will be innocent until proven guilty

Then when he is found guilty it will be a miscarriage of justice

Peoples obsession with him is very strange

It's all begrudgery, we're a nation of begrudgers.

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 4:14pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Go and educate yourself. He was considered the best footballer ever !!

Pele said as much. He was MASSIVELY Famous worldwide.

a level of fame mcg will never replicate.

But we're not talking about the most skilled, just the level of fame. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on football or footballers but this is something I've actually had many discussions on. In Brazil, with natives and other Irish travellers who were far more into football than I ever will be. No Brazilian of any age had heard of him. We had people ringing their friends to see if they had heard of him and it was always no. You gotta remember that this was before the Internet and even wide spread TV coverage. How would they have heard of him? A couple of lines in the newspaper about what the European teams are doing? They don't even pay that much attention to European football. Brazil alone is the size of Europe and every other country beside them is football mad too. They have their own leagues and competitions. Pele knew of him because he was also a footballer. Irelands best tiddly winks player probably knows Brazils best, but I haven't the foggiest who either of them would be.

Extending that, consider how many people there are in Asia. None of them would have followed European football in the 60s and 70s. Its not like they could stick on sky sports. But any of them that have heard of UFC will probably have heard of McGregor. Any that have heard of Man U will probably think of someone like Beckham or Fergie.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 4:38pm

xckjoo wrote: »

But we're not talking about the most skilled, just the level of fame. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on football or footballers but this is something I've actually had many discussions on. In Brazil, with natives and other Irish travellers who were far more into football than I ever will be. No Brazilian of any age had heard of him. We had people ringing their friends to see if they had heard of him and it was always no. You gotta remember that this was before the Internet and even wide spread TV coverage. How would they have heard of him? A couple of lines in the newspaper about what the European teams are doing? They don't even pay that much attention to European football. Brazil alone is the size of Europe and every other country beside them is football mad too. They have their own leagues and competitions. Pele knew of him because he was also a footballer. Irelands best tiddly winks player probably knows Brazils best, but I haven't the foggiest who either of them would be.

Extending that, consider how many people there are in Asia. None of them would have followed European football in the 60s and 70s. Its not like they could stick on sky sports. But any of them that have heard of UFC will probably have heard of McGregor. Any that have heard of Man U will probably think of someone like Beckham or Fergie.

Basically Best had the same level of fame as the Beatles at the time. He was known as el beatle following the European cup win.

He was extremely famous among soccer supporting nations.

More say than McG by a factor of ten.

Do you recall his funeral? Huge crowds. Wall to wall coverage on tv. Like princess Diana’s.

They named their international airport after him.

I’ve had ppl from China stop me in Dublin city centre and ask where is the statue to him and have had to explain its in Belfast not Dublin

He’s up there with Muhammad Ali and Pele in terms of fame.

27-03-2019 4:40pm

El_Bee wrote: »

It's all begrudgery, we're a nation of begrudgers.

Nobody likes a rapist* tho

*Alleged

Rows Grower · 27-03-2019 4:40pm

xckjoo wrote: »

But we're not talking about the most skilled, just the level of fame. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on football or footballers but this is something I've actually had many discussions on. In Brazil, with natives and other Irish travellers who were far more into football than I ever will be. No Brazilian of any age had heard of him. We had people ringing their friends to see if they had heard of him and it was always no. You gotta remember that this was before the Internet and even wide spread TV coverage. How would they have heard of him? A couple of lines in the newspaper about what the European teams are doing? They don't even pay that much attention to European football. Brazil alone is the size of Europe and every other country beside them is football mad too. They have their own leagues and competitions. Pele knew of him because he was also a footballer. Irelands best tiddly winks player probably knows Brazils best, but I haven't the foggiest who either of them would be.

Extending that, consider how many people there are in Asia. None of them would have followed European football in the 60s and 70s. Its not like they could stick on sky sports. But any of them that have heard of UFC will probably have heard of McGregor. Any that have heard of Man U will probably think of someone like Beckham or Fergie.

You're the one bringing levels of skill into the conversation, and Brazil for some strange reason.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 4:41pm

Also don’t get me wrong he was far from an angel

Presume you know the famous story

George was in a top London hotel in bed with miss world, bottles of champagne strewn around the room

The Waiter sticks his head in the door

“Dear oh dear George. Where did it all go wrong???”

Sums the man up. Far from a Saint by my word could he play the game of life

upinsmoke · 27-03-2019 4:45pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Go and educate yourself. He was considered the best footballer ever !!

Pele said as much. He was MASSIVELY Famous worldwide.

a level of fame mcg will never replicate.

McGregor is bigger than Best was ever! To think otherwise is mad

Circuital · 27-03-2019 4:46pm

OK. I was in Tibet and when I said where I was from a Sherpa started singing 'Ooh Aah Paul McGrath'.

Beechwoodspark · 27-03-2019 4:47pm

upinsmoke wrote: »

McGregor is bigger than Best was ever! To think otherwise is mad

Simply not true.

There’s loads of Irish ppl who don’t know who Conor is ffs

They say who’s that knackjob with the beard who does be fighting. I’m taking major numbers of Irish ppl don’t know him

All the fanboys need to realise mma is niche and not even considered a sport by a lot of ppl. It’s a flash in the pan job

It’s like in the early 90s wwf had its 15 mins of fame and the likes of randy savage was on the late late. It came and it went.

I remember ppl honestly thought wwf was going to overtake gaa and rugby in this country. They genuinely feared that. Ppl would laugh at that now

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 5:10pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Basically Best had the same level of fame as the Beatles at the time. He was known as el beatle following the European cup win.

In Ireland/UK/Europe, sure I'll accept that. That name was made up by the media though to sell papers (in Europe).

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

He was extremely famous among soccer supporting nations.

Except Brazil apparently, which I'd argue is one of the biggest footballing nations. Again, how would you expect them to have heard of him in the 70s? They were probably only dimmly aware of the European cups happening. If they even cared.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

More say than McG by a factor of ten.

Making up quantitative comparisons now? Why not a million?

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Do you recall his funeral? Huge crowds. Wall to wall coverage on tv. Like princess Diana’s.

I actually don't but that's not too surprising. Were you in Ireland when it happened by any chance? A good measure would be to see how widely covered it was across the world.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

They named their international airport after him.

It's a tiny airport in a small country whos recent history is marred with violence and division. It was named after him because the locals loved him, not because he was so well known worldwide.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve had ppl from China stop me in Dublin city centre and ask where is the statue to him and have had to explain its in Belfast not Dublin

You do get into a lot of strange conversations that are strangely relevant to obscure discussions :pac:
China was going through the Cultural Revolution in the 60s/70s. They weren't watching European club football. They must have learnt about him since then. Which goes against your point about his peak fame.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

He’s up there with Muhammad Ali and Pele in terms of fame.

In Ireland and the UK, sure. Worldwide, now or in the past? Doubtful.

Rows Grower wrote: »

You're the one bringing levels of skill into the conversation, and Brazil for some strange reason.

Nope. Beechwood keeps saying he was the best player and Pele agrees so he must be the most famous. And Pele is from Brazil so I'm just pointing out that even his fellow country men (a particularly football mad group of people) aren't aware of him. Finally, I actually have some first hand knowledge of the topic and how it relates to the country. I'd suspect the same is true in Argentina for example, but don't know for sure so not going to argue it.
Best and Brazil actually came up through you in the other thread so weird that you're complaining about it now.

Effects · 27-03-2019 5:13pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

mma is niche and not even considered a sport by a lot of ppl. It’s a flash in the pan job

Those people clearly don't understand sports.

It’s like in the early 90s wwf had its 15 mins of fame and the likes of randy savage was on the late late. It came and it went.

If it went, as you say, how come the company is worth almost seven billion dollars?

Conor Mcgregor arrested again

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