Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

extra gravy · 04-07-2020 2:05pm

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1279248881730142209?s=19

He's having a bit of trouble with words today.

Timberrrrrrrr · 04-07-2020 3:14pm

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1279248881730142209?s=19

He's having a bit of trouble with words today.

If it was Biden we would have the usual Trump zealots screaming about dementia and mental decline.

Water John · 04-07-2020 4:57pm

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1279248881730142209?s=19

He's having a bit of trouble with words today.

Note to Steve Millar; don't use any words of more than three syllables.

extra gravy · 04-07-2020 5:04pm

Water John wrote: »

Note to Steve Millar; don't use any words of more than three syllables.

But he's "the best orator to hold that office in generations."

Itssoeasy · 04-07-2020 5:10pm

As I said I didn't watch his speech and nor will I, but I seems during the national anthem(the First Lady had her hand over her heart) and trump is giving a military salute. That seems to not be the way it's meant to be. I'll be honest I know there is a protocol for this stuff but I wouldn't know the exact rules but trump seems to have done something he's not meant to(trump doing something he's not meant to do doesn't narrow things down).

Muahahaha · 04-07-2020 5:39pm

StringerBell wrote: »

I think that speech from Mt Rushmore will do him more harm than good in the polls.

Obviously you'd expect nothing of him but to double down and only attempt to appeal to his base but this disconnect with what's actually happening all over the country and the projection of an alternative reality and the continued, for months at this stage, insistence that the virus will simply disappear is going to kill him with everyone outside of the cult following. Not to mention referring to traitors to the nation as his heroes.

It has happened before in the US and I don't see anything to say it won't happen again. When the public feel you have no understanding of their plight it is pretty hard for them to identify with you.

That the US government paid no attention to the rights of the Natives Americans should also come as no surprise to anybody.

yeah it was just yet another speech designed to appeal to his base. Whats the point, they are locked in now anyway so all he is doing is preaching to the converted. If he is going to win in November he needs to preach to the unconverted and turn some of those voters intending to vote for Biden. Joe has polling leads now which are outside the margin of error in all the states that count. Yet the Trump campaign is still just talking to his base, you would wonder what these very well paid election strategists are doing in the background because if they continue on in this vein its almost certain that Trump will lose in November.

On a side note I watched a video of the fireworks at Mt Rushmore solely because Trump promised us the greatest fireworks show in the history of fireworks. I was expecting something to rival Sydneys New Years Eve fireworks but instead it was just woeful and I switched off after 5 minutes. I could forgive the cringy patriotic soundtrack it was set to given its the 4th of July. But the actual pyrotechnic display wasnt very technical at all, they barely used 10 different types of fireworks and there were no more than five colours in all. Even the crowd sitting around Trump looked bored of it after 5 minutes and it went on for over half an hour.

Igotadose · 04-07-2020 6:35pm

Ahh, yeah, Fisher Construction back in the news. The best people who the #IMPOTUS intervened for to get a chunk of his signature construction achievement (3 miles of wall) built while awarding them an enormous contract, $1.3bn.

Their chunk of wall is in danger of falling down. You just can't make this stuff up. Clown car administration, needed a reminder of just how inept besides corrupt this admin is.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/border-wall-built-by-trumps-hand-picked-contractor-is-in-danger-of-falling-into-the-rio-grande/

duploelabs · 04-07-2020 6:56pm

I'm sure this is the start of something interesting

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53292585

sid waddell · 04-07-2020 7:18pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah it was just yet another speech designed to appeal to his base. Whats the point, they are locked in now anyway so all he is doing is preaching to the converted. If he is going to win in November he needs to preach to the unconverted and turn some of those voters intending to vote for Biden. Joe has polling leads now which are outside the margin of error in all the states that count. Yet the Trump campaign is still just talking to his base, you would wonder what these very well paid election strategists are doing in the background because if they continue on in this vein its almost certain that Trump will lose in November.

On a side note I watched a video of the fireworks at Mt Rushmore solely because Trump promised us the greatest fireworks show in the history of fireworks. I was expecting something to rival Sydneys New Years Eve fireworks but instead it was just woeful and I switched off after 5 minutes. I could forgive the cringy patriotic soundtrack it was set to given its the 4th of July. But the actual pyrotechnic display wasnt very technical at all, they barely used 10 different types of fireworks and there were no more than five colours in all. Even the crowd sitting around Trump looked bored of it after 5 minutes and it went on for over half an hour.

Surprised they didn't use white fireworks only.

pixelburp · 04-07-2020 7:31pm

duploelabs wrote: »

I'm sure this is the start of something interesting

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53292585

I don't expect this to see completion given its an election year - and it's Trump - but it says a lot the modern 20th president chosen is Reagan and not Eisenhower. You'd think that'd be the more ennobling choice. Neo conservatism over classical.

JohnFalstaff · 04-07-2020 7:46pm

Newsweek ran an article this weekend that looks at how Trump could lose the election but still remain president. It would involve invoking presidential powers that have already been developed by Barr.

It reads like a far-fetched scenario, but considering how much has happened under Trump's presidency so far, it is not beyond the realms of possbility.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

Carfacemandog · 04-07-2020 9:12pm

JohnFalstaff wrote: »

Newsweek ran an article this weekend that looks at how Trump could lose the election but still remain president. It would involve invoking presidential powers that have already been developed by Barr.

It reads like a far-fetched scenario, but considering how much has happened under Trump's presidency so far, it is not beyond the realms of possbility.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

It's been obvious for at least a year that something like this is extremely possible (not a given, but extremely possible) along with something like the possibility of just "suspending" the election and ignoring the law that means Pelosi (if I recall? I think it's house speaker) would take the title from Jan 20th, 2021 until an election was held while lying about what the law says and encouraging hsi supporters to get their guns out and take to the streets.

eire4 · 04-07-2020 10:58pm

Carfacemandog wrote: »

It's been obvious for at least a year that something like this is extremely possible (not a given, but extremely possible) along with something like the possibility of just "suspending" the election and ignoring the law that means Pelosi (if I recall? I think it's house speaker) would take the title from Jan 20th, 2021 until an election was held while lying about what the law says and encouraging hsi supporters to get their guns out and take to the streets.

I have no idea what extreme measures, corruption, criminal activity or whatever he will engage in but if anybody things he will just accept the outcome of a vote in November and walk away if he losses they are in for a very rude awakening.

pixelburp · 04-07-2020 11:17pm

I think it depends on how the senate race works out. If McConnell is still the majority leader to a Biden victory then the question immediately turns to what support trump would receive from the GOP if he decided to ignore the result. He might cut an isolated figure if his party abandons him against the tide of opinion. They might be power hungry but they must surely be pragmatists at heart too. Presumably if both Houses become blue then Trump will have every political precedent and constitutional caveat thrown at him.

sydthebeat · 04-07-2020 11:30pm

Surely there is not enough white supremist KKK nazi fascists in america to vote this grifter back in?

That seems to be his base these days

Muahahaha · 04-07-2020 11:56pm

Hes still got the evangelicals, its said that they have around 15% of the vote and ultimately that bible photo op was for them. A few broke ranks though, iirc he was condemned over it by some religious leaders.

Quin_Dub · 05-07-2020 12:00am

Looks like people have shown a good deal of sense and not come to the July 4th celebration in DC.

Just seeing on TV , very very small numbers it would seem so far.

plenty of Social Distancing going on..

Itssoeasy · 05-07-2020 1:33am

I know the GOP have been in lockstep for the most part with trump since 2016 but if trumps poll numbers stay as bad as they are now nearer to election then even his most loyal allies in the senate will at some point before November switch to self preservation politically. And trump is like a tennis player hitting faults into the net. Joe Biden just needs to keep the ship steady and he will President if everything is on the up and up.

Blowfish · 05-07-2020 10:34am

eire4 wrote: »

I have no idea what extreme measures, corruption, criminal activity or whatever he will engage in but if anybody things he will just accept the outcome of a vote in November and walk away if he losses they are in for a very rude awakening.

The usual tactic for narcissists who fail is to pick someone to blame and come up with a myriad of reason why they are the reason why he wasn't elected and it's not due to people rejecting him. If we're lucky, he'll blame the GOP and Republican establishment for not supporting him. If we're unlucky, he'll claim it was fraud and will start inciting people to not accept the result.

Itssoeasy · 05-07-2020 10:36am

Donald trump has said(without any evidence) that 99% of covid-19 cases are totally harmless. This, along with him repeating that the virus will disappear amongst other claims is him and his administration going with the "out of sight, out of mind" belief.

PropJoe10 · 05-07-2020 10:42am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Donald trump has said(without any evidence) that 99% of covid-19 cases are totally harmless. This, along with him repeating that the virus will disappear amongst other claims is him and his administration going with the "out of sight, out of mind" belief.

His rhetoric at the moment, as it has been for his entire Presidency, is absolutely disgraceful. He's a serious and present danger to American lives and to democracy.

Quin_Dub · 05-07-2020 12:01pm

PropJoe10 wrote: »

His rhetoric at the moment, as it has been for his entire Presidency, is absolutely disgraceful. He's a serious and present danger to American lives and to democracy.

Well, He can't run on a "Great Economy" ticket, be can't run on a "Look at the great job I'm doing with the virus" ticket so he has clearly decided that his only option is to run on the " The others are coming to get you and your children" ticket.

So he is leaning in to that hard right now.

I don't see it winning him any new support, but it will fire up his base.

Fox News have been prepping them for this impending Armageddon for decades.

Muahahaha · 05-07-2020 4:22pm

I dont know how many times Ive seen him claim that they have done the most tests in the world, 25 million he says. While that might be true its a useless stat in itself unless you compare on a per capita basis. Its hard to believe the media let him repeat this claim time and time again but never report on how its really numerical trickery. Has anyone seen a per capita comparison and where are the US on it?

briany · 05-07-2020 4:39pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Well, He can't run on a "Great Economy" ticket, be can't run on a "Look at the great job I'm doing with the virus" ticket so he has clearly decided that his only option is to run on the " The others are coming to get you and your children" ticket.

So he is leaning in to that hard right now.

I don't see it winning him any new support, but it will fire up his base.

Fox News have been prepping them for this impending Armageddon for decades.

Maybe Trump has nothing to lose by going hard right. He's backed himself into a corner that makes it tough, if not impossible, to reach out to moderates. At least by reaching out to the base and keeping them on message, he will have a ready-made audience of 30 or 40 million for Trump TV when he loses the election.

Trump would not go quietly into the night. That much we know. He is called by some a 'street fighter' and a 'counter-puncher'. He has a tenacity that is highly admirable for a 74 year old when most 74 year olds are content to have the feet up. But he tends to channel this tenacity into being extraordinarily petty and concerned with his self-aggrandisement.

If you consider that Trump may have only run for president because of several quips Obama made about Trump in 2012, then you have to wonder at the ferocity of his reaction when he feels like he's been screwed out of a second term, even if it was in fact just due to collapsing Trump support?

Muahahaha · 05-07-2020 5:19pm

briany wrote: »

If you consider that Trump may have only run for president because of several quips Obama made about Trump in 2012, then you have to wonder at the ferocity of his reaction when he feels like he's been screwed out of a second term, even if it was in fact just due to collapsing Trump support?

It would be something fierce and well worth screening a pay per view special from the Oval Office, I would gladly pay to watch that fallout.

Im almost thinking that Biden has to win this election comprehensively to avoid any chance of Trump going full psycho after the results come in.

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-07-2020 5:20pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

It would be something fierce and well worth screening a pay per view special from the Oval Office, I would gladly pay to watch that fallout.

Im almost thinking that Biden has to win this election comprehensively to avoid any chance of Trump going full psycho after the results come in.

This is the worry, if it's a tight result (G.W.BUSH tight) then he will cause sever unrest claiming the vote was rigged.

duploelabs · 05-07-2020 5:22pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

It would be something fierce and well worth screening a pay per view special from the Oval Office, I would gladly pay to watch that fallout.

Im almost thinking that Biden has to win this election comprehensively to avoid any chance of Trump going full psycho after the results come in.

I dunno if you've been paying attention but Trump doesn't strike me as someone who'll accept defeat on himself :pac:

pixelburp · 05-07-2020 5:47pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

This is the worry, if it's a tight result (G.W.BUSH tight) then he will cause sever unrest claiming the vote was rigged.

If it's that tight, and the GOP are still on Trump's side, it'll be 2000 all over again. No question IMO and like most things Trump, he'll have projected fears of voter fraud in that it'll be his patch who actually commits it.

Leroy42 · 05-07-2020 5:56pm

pixelburp wrote: »

If it's that tight, and the GOP are still on Trump's side, it'll be 2000 all over again. No question IMO and like most things Trump, he'll have projected fears of voter fraud in that it'll be his patch who actually commits it.

There is no doubt that they are already setting that up. Whether postal voting (on a large scale) goes ahead of not, they will claim no matter what that voter fraud tool place. And they will find some examples to 'prove' their point.

To hear a POTUS give a speech like he did - btw the delivery was possibly his worst yet - for 4th July celebrations is insane. Like St Patricks Day in Ireland, it is supposed to be time to celebrate the history, the achievements, and look to a brighter future. The usual schick about everybody being as one, blah blah.

Instead, Trump basically called almost half (according to the current polling) as looking to destroy the US, tear down everything it stands for.

It always amazes me that nearly every election in the US is dragged down to fighting for the 'heart and soul' of the country. The very future of the country being at stake. I don't see that hyperbole in other countries. Sure Labour/Tory or FG/SF are very different policital philosophies, but rarely do people claim that the very existance of the country is actually at stake.

A certain segment of the US seem to live in perpetual fear that at any given moment the whole country is simply going to collapse and die. I simly cannot understand how the most powerful country in the world has such a flimsy confidence in itself.

briany · 05-07-2020 5:59pm

Has there been a POTUS since the American Civil War who has been as wilfully inflammatory as Trump, or more so, even?

fullstop · 05-07-2020 6:12pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

I dont know how many times Ive seen him claim that they have done the most tests in the world, 25 million he says. While that might be true its a useless stat in itself unless you compare on a per capita basis. Its hard to believe the media let him repeat this claim time and time again but never report on how its really numerical trickery. Has anyone seen a per capita comparison and where are the US on it?

Per capita what? There are a lot of per capitas :pac:

Tell me how · 05-07-2020 6:12pm

briany wrote: »

Has there been a POTUS since the American Civil War who has been as wilfully inflammatory as Trump, or more so, even?

Nope. Maybe some were as selfishly focused as he was but they didn't have the weapon of a Twitter account in their hand through which to broadcast their message.

Irrespective of what comes next, his name/image will forever be associated with the office of the President of the United States and its standing is cheapened by this fact.

salmocab · 05-07-2020 6:19pm

duploelabs wrote: »

I dunno if you've been paying attention but Trump doesn't strike me as someone who'll accept defeat on himself :pac:

He’ll kick up a stink alright but he doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll put themself in harms way. When push comes to shove I can’t see him putting himself in a position where he’s taken out of anywhere by police or even military. My own feeling is he’ll make noise and maybe get his base riled up but ultimately nothing will happen beyond ranting.

duploelabs · 05-07-2020 6:26pm

salmocab wrote: »

He’ll kick up a stink alright but he doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll put themself in harms way. When push comes to shove I can’t see him putting himself in a position where he’s taken out of anywhere by police or even military. My own feeling is he’ll make noise and maybe get his base riled up but ultimately nothing will happen beyond ranting.

Unnamed cough co-conspiracy cough, there's plenty of reasons to try to stay somewhere where he doesn't get cuffed

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-07-2020 6:27pm

salmocab wrote: »

He’ll kick up a stink alright but he doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll put themself in harms way. When push comes to shove I can’t see him putting himself in a position where he’s taken out of anywhere by police or even military. My own feeling is he’ll make noise and maybe get his base riled up but ultimately nothing will happen beyond ranting.

Yeah he won't put himself in harms way, but he will try rally his idiotic gun toting base to come defend the presidency from the liberals who have stolen the election.

Imagine the scenes if the American military are forced to fire upon their own citizens who have barricaded these outside the WH.

Quin_Dub · 05-07-2020 7:09pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

There is no doubt that they are already setting that up. Whether postal voting (on a large scale) goes ahead of not, they will claim no matter what that voter fraud tool place. And they will find some examples to 'prove' their point.

To hear a POTUS give a speech like he did - btw the delivery was possibly his worst yet - for 4th July celebrations is insane. Like St Patricks Day in Ireland, it is supposed to be time to celebrate the history, the achievements, and look to a brighter future. The usual schick about everybody being as one, blah blah.

Instead, Trump basically called almost half (according to the current polling) as looking to destroy the US, tear down everything it stands for.

It always amazes me that nearly every election in the US is dragged down to fighting for the 'heart and soul' of the country. The very future of the country being at stake. I don't see that hyperbole in other countries. Sure Labour/Tory or FG/SF are very different policital philosophies, but rarely do people claim that the very existance of the country is actually at stake.

A certain segment of the US seem to live in perpetual fear that at any given moment the whole country is simply going to collapse and die. I simly cannot understand how the most powerful country in the world has such a flimsy confidence in itself.

Fox News have spent the last 20+ years convincing their viewers that the cities are rat infested Communist hellholes over-run with gangs of rabid immigrants roaming the streets raping and pillaging their way through the last remaining god fearing Christians that still live there.

This constant fear mongering is what feeds the "Conservative" narrative.

It's why support for Trumps wall is highest in places that are nowhere near a border and have almost no immigrants.

If you aren't afraid all the time, why would you vote for the guys that claim they are there to protect you and your way of life??

salmocab · 05-07-2020 7:41pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Yeah he won't put himself in harms way, but he will try rally his idiotic gun toting base to come defend the presidency from the liberals who have stolen the election.

Imagine the scenes if the American military are forced to fire upon their own citizens who have barricaded these outside the WH.

My point is though at that point he certainly won’t be inside the White House. I genuinely think he’ll make the noise but ultimately won’t want to risk himself getting any kind of physical harm. Like a lot of bullies I’d be fairly positive he’s lacking in physical courage.
It’s all conjecture though he’s got to be got rid of first. Any kind of tight vote will lead to a hell of a noise I’d think.

briany · 05-07-2020 7:57pm

salmocab wrote: »

My point is though at that point he certainly won’t be inside the White House. I genuinely think he’ll make the noise but ultimately won’t want to risk himself getting any kind of physical harm. Like a lot of bullies I’d be fairly positive he’s lacking in physical courage.
It’s all conjecture though he’s got to be got rid of first. Any kind of tight vote will lead to a hell of a noise I’d think.

Like a lot of right-wing loudmouths over there in the States, Trump is likely all talk. Still, his words have the ability to rile up a lot of people both in the for and against columns. I could see Trump leading a protest on inauguration day but it may be from the back rather than the front, like a WW1 general directing a battle from a French chateau. He wouldn't risk harm to himself, but also it strikes me that he just wouldn't want to get among his own supporters in a close-up uncontrolled fashion. Too many of them would be the kind of blue-collar riff-raff he'd personally despise, for one thing, and Coronavirus is likely to still be around at that time. Too risky for the 74 year old germophobe.

spacecoyote · 05-07-2020 7:59pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

I dont know how many times Ive seen him claim that they have done the most tests in the world, 25 million he says. While that might be true its a useless stat in itself unless you compare on a per capita basis. Its hard to believe the media let him repeat this claim time and time again but never report on how its really numerical trickery. Has anyone seen a per capita comparison and where are the US on it?

Worldometer do a tests per million population and the US rank 26th globally

TomOnBoard · 05-07-2020 8:15pm

briany wrote: »

Maybe Trump has nothing to lose by going hard right. He's backed himself into a corner that makes it tough, if not impossible, to reach out to moderates. At least by reaching out to the base and keeping them on message, he will have a ready-made audience of 30 or 40 million for Trump TV when he loses the election.

Trump would not go quietly into the night. That much we know. He is called by some a 'street fighter' and a 'counter-puncher'. He has a tenacity that is highly admirable for a 74 year old when most 74 year olds are content to have the feet up. But he tends to channel this tenacity into being extraordinarily petty and concerned with his self-aggrandisement.

If you consider that Trump may have only run for president because of several quips Obama made about Trump in 2012, then you have to wonder at the ferocity of his reaction when he feels like he's been screwed out of a second term, even if it was in fact just due to collapsing Trump support?

Cam you just imagine the unhinged rantings on Trump TV during a Biden Presidency that is trying to fix the fallout from Covid, **** economy, massive division and all the other madness that has been the Trump years??? Jeez, it's gonna make Alex Jones actually sound rational and sane. .. and that's saying something. ...

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-07-2020 8:20pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Cam you just imagine the unhinged rantings on Trump TV during a Biden Presidency that is trying to fix the fallout from Covid, **** economy, massive division and all the other madness that has been the Trump years??? Jeez, it's gonna make Alex Jones actually sound rational and sane. .. and that's saying something. ...

yeah, but like Jones, Trump could be sued if he goes down the slander/defamation route.

briany · 05-07-2020 8:32pm

In the event that Trump TV really were created, I would expect that Fox News and One America News would be bricking themselves, as Trump TV would really distill the bigotry and ignorance of the American hard right down to its very essence and take over that whole viewership. No pretense of being balanced, just talking about 'telling it like it is', which is that America will be Communist in a decade under the direction of Biden and the globalist Democratic party should be banned as a terrorist organisation. They might even let Alex Jones have his own show.

If there's any suing to be had, it'll be against the network itself and Trump's personal liability will be kept strictly limited.

TomOnBoard · 05-07-2020 8:36pm

briany wrote: »

Has there been a POTUS since the American Civil War who has been as wilfully inflammatory as Trump, or more so, even?

Not an actual POTUS, but George Wallace, a 4-time Governor and regular would-be POTUS, comes to mind when I see Trump's hard-right pivot of late. Wallace was an odious segregationist Democratic politician who had few if any redeeming features. He was staunchly racist and tried his utmost to derail Democratic Civil Rights policies in the 1960s. If you were to imagine a regime that coupled Wallace racist politics with the histrionics of Joe Mc Carthy's anti-Communist purge, you'd see something like a Trump-46 Presidency, based on his last few months spiral into the politics of hate.

TomOnBoard · 05-07-2020 8:42pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

yeah, but like Jones, Trump could be sued if he goes down the slander/defamation route.

He could say anything he wants about a sitting President.. 1st Amendment, political opinion and all that...

duploelabs · 05-07-2020 8:44pm

The scriptwriters really jumped the shark with Trump's former Aide Michael Flynn’s latest move

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-flynn-qanon-conspiracy-theory-independence-day-speech-slogan-a9602596.html

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-07-2020 8:46pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

He could say anything he wants about a sitting President.. 1st Amendment, political opinion and all that...

Hes so stupid he wouldn't stick to that, his mouth is 5 seconds ahead of his brain so he would eventually say something that would get him sued.

TomOnBoard · 05-07-2020 8:46pm

briany wrote: »

In the event that Trump TV really were created, I would expect that Fox News and One America News would be bricking themselves, as Trump TV would really distill the bigotry and ignorance of the American hard right down to its very essence and take over that whole viewership. No pretense of being balanced, just talking about 'telling it like it is', which is that America will be Communist in a decade under the direction of Biden and the globalist Democratic party should be banned as a terrorist organisation. They might even let Alex Jones have his own show.

If there's any suing to be had, it'll be against the network itself and Trump's personal liability will be kept strictly limited.

OANN will become Trump TV. Trump can once again license his name and get loadsa money without even lifting a finger. Junior was recently reported as becoming involved with them. That would certainly be a bit threat to Fox's opinion fabulists...

Thargor · 05-07-2020 8:49pm

briany wrote: »

Has there been a POTUS since the American Civil War who has been as wilfully inflammatory as Trump, or more so, even?

Tell me how wrote: »

Nope. Maybe some were as selfishly focused as he was but they didn't have the weapon of a Twitter account in their hand through which to broadcast their message.

Irrespective of what comes next, his name/image will forever be associated with the office of the President of the United States and its standing is cheapened by this fact.

Theres never been one as aggressively stupid, nowhere near, every one of them since pretty much Washington has been able to speak, formulate answers/reasoning etc. They would have all been well read and have left behind writings and explanations for their decisions and worldview etc, Trump is basically a different species to what has gone before, he doesnt have a worldview or any strategy, its amazing to watch. Its not just alzheimer's or whatever mental degradation he has going on, look at his disgusting kids aswell.

4 more years of this and America will seriously be up sh1t creek. China will be #1 enjoying its golden age for the next few decades like America did after WWII if America doesnt get someone in charge soon.

Igotadose · 05-07-2020 9:25pm

Michael Flynn - who hopefully ends up in prison soon - pledges allegiance to QAnon.

Imagine, he was nearly National Security Advisor to the POTUS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-flynn-qanon-conspiracy-theory-independence-day-speech-slogan-a9602596.html

briany · 05-07-2020 9:53pm

Igotadose wrote: »

Michael Flynn - who hopefully ends up in prison soon - pledges allegiance to QAnon.

Imagine, he was nearly National Security Advisor to the POTUS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-flynn-qanon-conspiracy-theory-independence-day-speech-slogan-a9602596.html

I'd love to take that article more seriously, but it referred to 4Chan as a far-right message board. Stormfront is a far-right message board. 4Chan is more of a place where anything goes, from the mundane to the profane.

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