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Philips Hue FAQ

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    I'm getting a hue bridge is full try deleting some routines message when trying to add some new lights to a new room.

    Any idea what my options are? I deleted a few routines I don't use too often and that allowed me to add the new room with two new lights l, but I've also added 6 new lights elsewhere that I cant add to a new room plus I want to add a couple of simmer switches.

    I don't think I've that many bulbs/accessories
    Think I've about 35 bulbs 7 dimmer switches and 4 sensors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    and I landed upon "Hue Essentials", which added the sensor fine, and once I deleted the sensor via Hue Essentials I could add it via the Hub app.

    The Hue Essentials is the best app for Hue around on Android and for smart phones in general, full stop. It also lets you control multiple Hue Hubs at the same time and even add Ikea Trådfri hubs, if you are so inclined.

    I have 6 Hue Hubs due to the amount of bulbs, I have, and it would be a nightmare with the Hue app.

    For those, who are on Apple, the Hue Lights app is the equivalent. It won't manage multiple Hubs, like Hue Essentials, but it's much more versatile and it actually still supports the old v1 Hubs even after Philips abandons them.
    Uriel. wrote: »
    I'm getting a hue bridge is full try deleting some routines message when trying to add some new lights to a new room.

    Any idea what my options are? I deleted a few routines I don't use too often and that allowed me to add the new room with two new lights l, but I've also added 6 new lights elsewhere that I cant add to a new room plus I want to add a couple of simmer switches.

    I don't think I've that many bulbs/accessories
    Think I've about 35 bulbs 7 dimmer switches and 4 sensors.

    The problem is, that the Hue app sometimes replicates, doubles and fills up the memory with adding the scenes over and over again. Also here, try use the Hue Essentials app and do a clean-up. Mind, it will delete all custom scenes, so you will have to recreate them.

    Also be aware, that 63 bulbs will be your hard limit per hub. You certainly should consider a 2nd hub, when you hit 50.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy



    Welcome to the Hue club......

    The colour bulbs are teh premium product, and are priced as such.

    The white bulbs are the entry level bulbs and are priced to entice users to teh system, who they hope will eventually invest more down the line on colour bulbs when they see how good teh system is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I would only buy when on offer....


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    I would only buy when on offer....

    Have never paid full price and always on Amazon.

    Irish retailers like Harvey Norman just can't compete on price even in a 'sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Delayed prime day is coming up so make an account on CamelX3 & load up your wants, particularly starter kits as they're the best value, then as the alerts come in, buy them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Welcome to the Hue club......

    The colour bulbs are teh premium product, and are priced as such.

    The white bulbs are the entry level bulbs and are priced to entice users to teh system, who they hope will eventually invest more down the line on colour bulbs when they see how good teh system is.

    Oh ok thanks i honestly thought there was some error, there would be very little production cost difference between them. Lord they would want to have a decent guarunteed life span for 40 yo yos for a bulb:rolleyes: I wont be replacing the 20 in the kitchen with colored ones i guess just yet:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Oh ok thanks i honestly thought there was some error, there would be very little production cost difference between them. Lord they would want to have a decent guarunteed life span for 40 yo yos for a bulb:rolleyes: I wont be replacing the 20 in the kitchen with colored ones i guess just yet:P

    Come back 6 months after you buy the first few and see if you have the same opinion :D
    These bulbs are an addiction


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Oh ok thanks i honestly thought there was some error, there would be very little production cost difference between them. Lord they would want to have a decent guarunteed life span for 40 yo yos for a bulb:rolleyes: I wont be replacing the 20 in the kitchen with colored ones i guess just yet:P

    After my initial starter kit I bought most of mine on sale. I set a Keepa notification for a target price and only bought when they were on sale. I now have 15 bulbs (4 colour), 2x led strip with extensions, 2x motion sensors, 3x dimmer switches


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  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    After my initial starter kit I bought most of mine on sale. I set a Keepa notification for a target price and only bought when they were on sale. I now have 15 bulbs (4 colour), 2x led strip with extensions, 2x motion sensors, 3x dimmer switches

    an addiction :eek: Well reason I am getting a starter kit as Im currently using TP link wifi plugs for my lights with 40 watt "vintage" bulbs. The tp link wifi plugs although bloody great are starting to crowd my 2.4ghz radio channel so wanted to move some less important stuff off the wifi onto the zigbee radio waves thus freeing up bandwidth. Have not much knowledge of zigbee so will be interesting. Im hoping to match the warm vintage glow of my incandescents with the color hues. I shall report back in a few days :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I got my first Hue bulbs in 2013, and within about 3 years, I had the entire house kitted with Hue (45+ bulbs with, 4 sensors, and 11 dimmer switches)

    95% of my bulbs are all colour (I replaced all the White only & White Ambiance bulbs with colour when they could be got in deals)

    My Advice, just buy the colour bulbs now so you don't need to buy the white only ones first and then replace them.

    Halloween & Christmas are so much more fun with Hue Colour bulbs...


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    I got my first Hue bulbs in 2013, and within about 3 years, I had the entire house kitted with Hue (45+ bulbs with, 4 sensors, and 11 dimmer switches)

    95% of my bulbs are all colour (I replaced all the White only & White Ambiance bulbs with colour when they could be got in deals)

    My Advice, just buy the colour bulbs now so you don't need to buy the white only ones first and then replace them.

    Halloween & Christmas are so much more fun with Hue Colour bulbs...

    I looked up some of the Halloween and Christmas scenes on youtube but most seem to be related to outside lights which look great. but do those scenes not becoming a bit annoying after an hour or so inside the house? Almost disco like:confused:

    Edit, I see with Hue labs you can control the flashes etc so it can be a very gradual color change etc so all good :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I looked up some of the Halloween and Christmas scenes on youtube but most seem to be related to outside lights which look great. but do those scenes not becoming a bit annoying after an hour or so inside the house? Almost disco like:confused:

    Edit, I see with Hue labs you can control the flashes etc so it can be a very gradual color change etc so all good :D

    Set up a lamp or 2 in each front room, open curtains and looks great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I looked up some of the Halloween and Christmas scenes on youtube but most seem to be related to outside lights which look great. but do those scenes not becoming a bit annoying after an hour or so inside the house? Almost disco like

    Hue Halloween app, only on for the 90 minutes or so the kids are trick or treating..... sound via a Bluetooth speaker hidden under the car.

    Kids and parents alike love it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hue Halloween app, only on for the 90 minutes or so the kids are trick or treating..... sound via a Bluetooth speaker hidden under the car.

    Kids and parents alike love it.

    This plus 100,its great fun, i was keeping an eye on the camera last year and set off the thunder & lightening as someone came it, i was the biggest child of them all :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Hue Halloween app, only on for the 90 minutes or so the kids are trick or treating..... sound via a Bluetooth speaker hidden under the car.

    Kids and parents alike love it.

    I have a spare google home mini and a power outlet in the porch so that would actually be pretty cool working with the porch light. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Has anyone setup the Philips hue recessed lighting? I have recessed lights which I thought were spots but they are not. When I YouTube the installation it’s showing them with E27 connectors attached but I require them hardwired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Has anyone setup the Philips hue recessed lighting? I have recessed lights which I thought were spots but they are not. When I YouTube the installation it’s showing them with E27 connectors attached but I require them hardwired.

    You mean GU10 type you want....


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Newbs first impressions of Philips Hue Color Bulbs

    Setup: Piece of cake complete in mere minutes no hassle. (Hub has a cool blue light also that looks well near router) Love LEDS:P

    Bulbs: The speed at which they change color is amazing there is no lag and they all change at the same time there is no delay between the bulbs that I can see. They are completely synced, quite amazing. The colors are great I was looking for a nice candle color warm orange similar to an incandescent which I got. I use dimmer plug controllers on all my lamps so can be a pain to increase the light. These are handy. Also at the blink of an eye you can go from a soft candle glow to full on light if you want to read something.

    App: Is good but the routines I have 2 small issues/ things i would have liked to see.
    (SMALL ISSUE) On my TP Link Kasa smart plugs you could also set up Dusk to Dawn settings but it would give you a time also displayed they were to come on / off at which would change with the local google dawn dusk information ie before dusk you would see this on the app
    Kitchen Lamp (18.04)
    Hall Lamp (18.04)
    Then after dusk when the lights turned on, app would display the dawn turn off time
    Kitchen Lamp (05.44)
    Hall Lamp (05.44)
    Small issue but I thought it was a nice little feature you could see how day after day the times would decrease/increase as the seasons / earths axis changed. I used this also to plan my evening activities lol (check kasa getting dark at 18.04 so ill do xxx at 5pm:P
    It gives a quick reminder also how many hours your lights are on for also in case you want to make adjustments.

    A MUCH Bigger issue: Now maybe I have this wrong but another great feature of the TP Link KASA Smart Plug was the ability to set a routine using both sunset and a set time. (IE: Turn Plug on at Sunset then Switch Plug OFF at 1am)

    It seems on the Philips hue app you either have a Specific time to turn on or off or DUSK to Dawn setting, There doesnt seem to be a way to combine a Dusk setting with a specific time off
    Is there a work around for this or am I doing something wrong seems bizarre, I can only assume I am wrong because that is a huge oversight so maybe someone on here can point me in the right direction. I dont want to leave all my lights on during winter from 5 pm to 8am :( 18 hour intervals:eek:

    All in all decent system. I will definitely be getting a motion sensor and some GU10s bulbs (user above ill let you know how that goes you asked about that)

    The Zigbee protocol seems great and I might invest in some Philips Hue Smart plugs and retire some more of my wifi smart plugs that are WIFI vampires

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-Hue-Bluetooth-Google-Assistant/dp/B07YQHTK8R

    Its 8/10 but if there is a simple way to combine dusk and specific time off routine ill go up to a 9:o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭irelandrover



    A MUCH Bigger issue: Now maybe I have this wrong but another great feature of the TP Link KASA Smart Plug was the ability to set a routine using both sunset and a set time. (IE: Turn Plug on at Sunset then Switch Plug OFF at 1am)

    It seems on the Philips hue app you either have a Specific time to turn on or off or DUSK to Dawn setting, There doesnt seem to be a way to combine a Dusk setting with a specific time off
    Is there a work around for this or am I doing something wrong seems bizarre, I can only assume I am wrong because that is a huge oversight so maybe someone on here can point me in the right direction. I dont want to leave all my lights on during winter from 5 pm to 8am :( 18 hour intervals:eek:

    I find this an issue as well.
    I have set up two routines so the first turns on at sunset and the second turns everything off at a certain time.
    Its not ideal but its the best i could do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    I find this an issue as well.
    I have set up two routines so the first turns on at sunset and the second turns everything off at a certain time.
    Its not ideal but its the best i could do.


    Hi Ireland thanks for input I see, hmmm that seems to involve shutting all your hue lights on and off at the one time. Shame as I set different light timings in different areas with the kasa set up

    For instance using my tp link plugs and kasa app i had this set up

    Kitchen lamp: Dusk on , Off 3am,
    Hall entrance Lamp: Dusk on, Off 1am
    Landing lamp: Dusk to Dawn
    Uplighter Kitchen: Dusk to 11PM

    So I had quite different light needs in different house areas depending on activity levels. So a complete light blackout across the house at a certain time isnt great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Hi Ireland thanks for input I see, hmmm that seems to involve shutting all your hue lights on and off at the one time. Shame as I set different light timings in different areas with the kasa set up

    For instance using my tp link plugs and kasa app i had this set up

    Kitchen lamp: Dusk on , Off 3am,
    Hall entrance Lamp: Dusk on, Off 1am
    Landing lamp: Dusk to Dawn
    Uplighter Kitchen: Dusk to 11PM

    So I had quite different light needs in different house areas depending on activity levels. So a complete light blackout across the house at a certain time isnt great

    you can set the routine to just turn off the room you want. but if you have 5 rooms then its 10 routines in total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    For instance using my tp link plugs and kasa app i had this set up

    Kitchen lamp: Dusk on , Off 3am,
    Hall entrance Lamp: Dusk on, Off 1am
    Landing lamp: Dusk to Dawn
    Uplighter Kitchen: Dusk to 11PM

    All this can be done with Hue,
    Just means you'll need more routines (5 in total for the above), but it can be done.

    1 routine at Dusk for the 4 rooms above, to turn them all on.
    Then 4 separate individual routines to turn each room off at the time you want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    I see ok Andy and Rover I misunderstood the app so its a bit easier on the Kasa. I will familiarise myself with it so more. I thought a routine was the start and end of a light sequence i didnt realise a daily light cycle could be made up of 2 routines. Makes sense Ill try that today:cool:
    Thanks guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    i didnt realise a daily light cycle could be made up of 2 routines. Makes sense Ill try that today:cool:
    Thanks guys

    Yep, if you use the same routine to turn off lights, you only get an 'off' option, whereas if you turn lights off in their own separate routine, you have more options for turning them off, like fading out etc...

    Usually in winter I'd have 3 routines for some rooms: i.e. Sitting room: 4pm turn/fade on a bright scene like Energise or Concentrate with a 30 minute fade, then at 6pm, fade that scene into a Relax (warmer & not as bright) scene over 30 minutes or so, then at 11pm, fade the room off over a 30 minute period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    You mean GU10 type you want....

    To be honest I would need someone to come out and have a look at what I need

    - I has 1X recessed light in the porch that I would like to change to Philips Hue

    - 3X recessed lights in the Hallway I would like changed to Philips Hue

    - 2X Under Cabinet recessed lights in the Kitchen I would like changed to Philips Hue

    Would I be best to get an electrician to have a look?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    To be honest I would need someone to come out and have a look at what I need

    - I has 1X recessed light in the porch that I would like to change to Philips Hue

    - 3X recessed lights in the Hallway I would like changed to Philips Hue

    - 2X Under Cabinet recessed lights in the Kitchen I would like changed to Philips Hue

    Would I be best to get an electrician to have a look?

    Take pictures of the bulbs/fittings and post them here, and also photos of them removed if you can..

    At a guess I'd say the ones under your kitchen cabinets are 12v, and also not GU10.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Take pictures of the bulbs/fittings and post them here, and also photos of them removed if you can..

    At a guess I'd say the ones under your kitchen cabinets are 12v, and also not GU10.

    Grand. I will Take Photos this evening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Grand. I will Take Photos this evening

    You will need to change the tails and some fittings may not take the lamps depending....

    The latest GU10 led hue are smaller and as close to the halogen equivalent.

    If it's the case you need to remove the transformer at each fitting and change the tsil to 230v GU10 style....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭acalmenvoy


    Are the new hue colour gu10s identical to standard ones or is there still a dimensional difference?


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    acalmenvoy wrote: »
    Are the new hue colour gu10s identical to standard ones or is there still a dimensional difference?

    Might be some help

    https://huehomelighting.com/philips-hue-gu10-spotlight-guide-dimensions/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭jones


    Philips hue hub has been working flawlessly for almost 4 years carrying 50 bulbs.... Until today. Can't connect to it now at all tried to reset it leave it plugged out and a while then back in but it's stuck in a loop.

    Very odd. Anyone else have this happen?or if anyone has a spare hub knocking around they no longer want? I don't fancy spending 60 quid on a new one. I wouldn't mind but i gave away one a few years ago for nothing when I got it packaged with a gu10 set. No good deed and all that ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Mine have been acting the ham last few weeks, some work normally then settings as timed on or off not working few days then ok then off again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Have the hue stripes behind TV but young fellow keeps getting behind TV and pulling them off... Kids eh

    Might use them elsewhere but any other options for this. Have lamp in bedroom but what's the Philips bloom like would that be better for lighting behind tv?

    TV in a corner and not mounted on wall so have sub woofer and router behind TV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Have the hue stripes behind TV but young fellow keeps getting behind TV and pulling them off... Kids eh

    Might use them elsewhere but any other options for this. Have lamp in bedroom but what's the Philips bloom like would that be better for lighting behind tv?

    TV in a corner and not mounted on wall so have sub woofer and router behind TV

    Super glue?

    Also is the TV secure as if not that's extremely dangerous as I'm sure you're aware as TV could fall on him.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I always use Sugru for jobs like that, little loop to put it through, if that's not an option double sided velcro would probably do the trick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Clareman wrote: »
    I always use Sugru for jobs like that, little loop to put it through, if that's not an option double sided velcro would probably do the trick

    Used gorilla tape and he still manages to get it off he loves the sticky tape

    Trying to avoid glue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Used gorilla tape and he still manages to get it off he loves the sticky tape

    Trying to avoid glue

    Put up an electric fence ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Put up an electric fence ;)

    I've thought of it.. Just social services might be called


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭jones


    Ok folks update on my hue bridge issue and any help much appreciated.

    Hue bridge died after 4 years and wouldn't connect tried resetting etc and nothing worked so I gave in and bought a new bridge.

    First up I had to manually add each of my 50 bulbs by serial number as they were obviously still assigned to my old hub, pain in the arse I thought but I'll hopefully never have to do it again.

    I am now running into more problems, i added all the lights back but I cannot control via Google home anymore. I've removed hue from Google home and tried to add it again but it keeps telling me it cannot connect (I've a feeling it's looking for the old hub). Hue app itself is also acting up I can't connect to out of home control it just sits at connecting constantly (again this uses Google log in)

    So basically how can I remove all remnants of the old hub from both hue and Google? Any other ideas on what might be going on?

    Has anyone heard of this issue before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭jones


    Update on above I was half right... Philips hue online was still linked to my old hub I deleted the old hub and hey presto I'm back.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Hue outdoor Lily spot light leaked after 18 months, I have started the warranty process with Hue will be interesting to see how they deal with it. Very slow so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    My Lily's are over 2 years in now, and not a bother with them..... I'm quite impressed actually as they take an awful battering from the rain, and they are installed in soil.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    I have 9 between front and back, 5 in soil 4 on walls. This one was up on a wall so I'm surprised its having trouble, I'm suspect of 1 in the front thats in soil but nothing conclusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Looking at gu10 and is this a good price? Have 2 hubs already

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0152WXDOA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_W0jsFb3AT6NSV

    Yeah, that’s a fairly decent price per bulb with a hub thrown in...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Yeah, that’s a fairly decent price per bulb with a hub thrown in...

    Cheers purchased had to get another as 4 lights in dining room

    So another spare hub try and get parents a bulb maybe they can use it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭jones


    Typical i just bought a replacement hub ha. I do find it weird that the hub cant go above 50 lights i'm surprised they havent increased it yet be it with a new hub or some other method. I've 48 bulbs currently so cant start any new rooms - 48 sounds a lot but my kitchen and sittingroom alone have 26 gu10 spots so you do not be slow about filling up the 50.

    First world problems i know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    jones wrote: »
    Typical i just bought a replacement hub ha. I do find it weird that the hub cant go above 50 lights i'm surprised they havent increased it yet be it with a new hub or some other method. I've 48 bulbs currently so cant start any new rooms - 48 sounds a lot but my kitchen and sittingroom alone have 26 gu10 spots so you do not be slow about filling up the 50.

    First world problems i know

    The Hub can go to 63 bulbs, but that is the hard limit. (63 bulbs + 1 hub = 64, which is 7 bit in binary).

    Now in theory, the software could be updated to connect many more lights, but the more lights you have on the one hub, the more slow it becomes to activate the lights. And possibly also unstable.

    Ever tried to turn all lights on in a room with like 30-40 lights ? You can see, how the lights are turned on in sequence and not all at once.

    Good planning on how you group the lights and for example the Hue Essentials app and it's not a problem to run multiple hubs.

    I've even Alexa support added now, but I have it connected to my OpenHAB smart home hub, so that I can group lights across the hubs. And I have 6 hubs in total.

    /M


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