Ireland U20 2015 6 nations and junior world cup

Hagz · 04-09-2014 6:06am

u19s win over Saints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHMHyjDuNWk

Tries from Nick Peters, Jimmy O'Brien, Matthew Bursey and Alan Hughes.

.ak · 04-09-2014 10:10am

Last try was a beaut.

Tox56 · 04-09-2014 11:27am

Hagz wrote: »

u19s win over Saints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHMHyjDuNWk

Tries from Nick Peters, Jimmy O'Brien, Matthew Bursey and Alan Hughes.

Jesus who was that forward who straightened the line and made the sonny bill offload for the last try? That was glorious

The Lost Sheep · 04-09-2014 2:49pm

15. Jack Power (UCD RFC)
14. Adam Leavy (St. Michael's College)
13. Conor O'Brien (Mullingar RFC)
12. Harrison Brewer (Terenure College RFC)
11. Cormac Brennan (Old Belvedere RFC)/ Robert Vallejo (New Ross RFC)
10. Joseph Carbery (UCD RFC)
9. Charlie Rock (Old Belvedere RFC) Captain
1. Andrew Porter (St. Andrew's College)
2. Jack McKenna (Lansdowne FC)
3. Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College)
4. David O'Connor (Blackrock College)
5. Jack Dwan (Blackrock College)
6. Josh Murphy (UCD RFC)
7. Conor Oliver (St. Mary's College RFC)
8. Nick Timoney (St. Mary's College RFC)
Replacements:
16. Andrew Roche (Terenure College RFC)
17. Eric O'Sullivan (Templeogue College)
18. Ntinga Mpiko (Lansdowne FC)
19. Greg Jones (St. Andrew's College)
20. Samuel Pim (Kilkenny College)
21. Tim Schmidt (Terenure College RFC)
22. Sean Kearns (Blackrock College)
23. Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)

15. Stephen Fitzgerald (Capt.)(Shannon RFC)
14. Greg O'Shea (Shannon RFC)
13. Paul Kiernan (UCC)
12. Gearóid Lyons (Young Munster RFC)
11. Stephen McMahon (Garryowen FC)
10. Tomás Quinlan (Cork Constitution FC)
9. Jack Cullen (Shannon RFC)
1. Brendan Quinlan (Cork Constitution FC)
2. Seán McNulty (UCD)
3. Mike O'Donnell (Crescent College Comprehensive)
4. Frank Bradshaw-Ryan (Shannon RFC)
5. Glen Stokes (Cork Constitution FC)
6. Johnny Keane (Garryowen RFC)
7. Luke O'Leary (Cork Constitution FC)
8. David St.Leger (Presentation College Cork)

Replacements:
16 Luke O'Halloren (St Munchin's College)
17 Dennis O'Connell (Shannon RFC)/Liam O'Connor (Christian Brothers College)
18 Greg Roche (Cork Constitution FC)
19 Cormac Blake (Crescent College Comprehensive)
20 Conor Barry (UCC/Bandon RFC)
21 Jason Higgins (Christian Brothers College)
22 Will Leonard (Shannon RFC)
23 Ed O'Keefe (Young Munster RFC)

Hagz · 04-09-2014 3:04pm

Tox56 wrote: »

Jesus who was that forward who straightened the line and made the sonny bill offload for the last try? That was glorious

Max Deegan. St.Michael's College.

Bridge93 · 04-09-2014 3:06pm

is the game in Donnybrook?

The Lost Sheep · 04-09-2014 3:11pm

Bridge93 wrote: »

is the game in Donnybrook?

Its on in Ashbourne. Pitch in Donnybrook not ready yet

Hagz · 04-09-2014 3:48pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7sQGM5iueI

shuffol · 04-09-2014 3:54pm

Hagz wrote: »

Max Deegan. St.Michael's College.

Lovely offload from the back of the scrum for the first try too.

RobbieRuns · 04-09-2014 4:32pm

Both sets of backs in the Leinster and Munster teams look pretty good. Should be a good game.

The Lost Sheep · 04-09-2014 10:21pm

Connacht team
1 Conor Kyne (Galwegians)
2 Rory Litchfield (Galwegians)
3 Conan O’Donnell (Sligo)
4 Cian Romaine (Buccaneers)
5 James Doyle (Galwegians)
6 Alex Penny (NUIG)
7 Joshua Pim (Buccaneers)
8 Stephen McVeigh (Buccaneers)
9 Conor Lowndes (Galwegians)
10 Aidan Moynihan (Galwegians)
11 Oisin Leahy (NUIG)
12 Ben Ridgeway (Galwegians)
13 Dwayne Corcoran (Westport)
14 Joseph D’Arcy (Galwegians
15 Anthony McGivney (NUIG)
16 Pat O’Toole (Corinthians)
17 Conor Doyle (Buccaneers)
18 Craig Hansberry (Corinthians)
19 Roy Stanley (NUIG)
20 Marc Kelly (Corinthians)
21 Ricky Dixon (Buccaneers)
22 Andrew Shanahan (NUIG)
23 Dylan Kelso (Buccaneers)

Ulster team
1. Michael Lagan (captain, Ballymena)
2. Zac McCall (Queen’s University)
3. Dane Fitzpatrick (Ballynahinch)
4. Tom Donnan (TBC)
5. Nigel Simpson (Queen’s University)
6. Callum Irvine (TBC)
7. Caleb Montgomery (TBC)
8. Lorcan Dow (Queen’s University)
9. Conor Young (Instonians)
10. Sean O’Hagan (Queen’s University)
11. Jacob Stockdale (TBC)
12. Conor McKee (Queen’s University)
13. Sam Arnold (Ballynahinch)
14. Adam Liddell (Malone)
15. Jack Owens (Queen’s University)
16. Andrew McGrath (TBC)
17. Darryl Morton (Armagh)
18. Angelo Marica (Belfast Harlequins)
19. Josh Davidson (TBC)
20. Ross Todd (TBC)
21. Josh Fullerton (Belfast Harlequins)
22. Jack Milligan (Dungannon)
23. Michael Cartmill (Malone)

Stainalert · 04-09-2014 11:15pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Connacht team
1 Conor Kyne (Galwegians)
2 Rory Litchfield (Galwegians)
3 Conan O’Donnell (Sligo)
4 Cian Romaine (Buccaneers)
5 James Doyle (Galwegians)
6 Alex Penny (NUIG)
7 Joshua Pim (Buccaneers)
8 Stephen McVeigh (Buccaneers)
9 Conor Lowndes (Galwegians)
10 Aidan Moynihan (Galwegians)
11 Oisin Leahy (NUIG)
12 Ben Ridgeway (Galwegians)
13 Dwayne Corcoran (Westport)
14 Joseph D’Arcy (Galwegians
15 Anthony McGivney (NUIG)
16 Pat O’Toole (Corinthians)
17 Conor Doyle (Buccaneers)
18 Craig Hansberry (Corinthians)
19 Roy Stanley (NUIG)
20 Marc Kelly (Corinthians)
21 Ricky Dixon (Buccaneers)
22 Andrew Shanahan (NUIG)
23 Dylan Kelso (Buccaneers)

Ulster team
1. Michael Lagan (captain, Ballymena)
2. Zac McCall (Queen’s University)
3. Dane Fitzpatrick (Ballynahinch)
4. Tom Donnan (TBC)
5. Nigel Simpson (Queen’s University)
6. Callum Irvine (TBC)
7. Caleb Montgomery (TBC)
8. Lorcan Dow (Queen’s University)
9. Conor Young (Instonians)
10. Sean O’Hagan (Queen’s University)
11. Jacob Stockdale (TBC)
12. Conor McKee (Queen’s University)
13. Sam Arnold (Ballynahinch)
14. Adam Liddell (Malone)
15. Jack Owens (Queen’s University)
16. Andrew McGrath (TBC)
17. Darryl Morton (Armagh)
18. Angelo Marica (Belfast Harlequins)
19. Josh Davidson (TBC)
20. Ross Todd (TBC)
21. Josh Fullerton (Belfast Harlequins)
22. Jack Milligan (Dungannon)
23. Michael Cartmill (Malone)

Are you sure about those clubs for Connacht team - Pretty sure some of those players are registered to non Connacht clubs

Hagz · 04-09-2014 11:41pm

That's a seriously strong back-line for Ulster.

bilston · 04-09-2014 11:58pm

I would imagine Connacht will have a nice wee welcoming committee organised for Sean O'Hagan!

The Lost Sheep · 05-09-2014 12:46am

Stainalert wrote: »

Are you sure about those clubs for Connacht team - Pretty sure some of those players are registered to non Connacht clubs

All players must be registered with a Connacht club for the purpose of the interpros and to play for Connacht. Some may end up not playing for the clubs they are listed under but most will.

Hagz wrote: »

That's a seriously strong back-line for Ulster.

Very strong. some are only under 19s. And with strength of all provinces especially in backs great for Irish side. Hopefully we can unearth some forwards as strong in the next few months

Stainalert · 05-09-2014 8:34am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

All players must be registered with a Connacht club for the purpose of the interpros and to play for Connacht. Some may end up not playing for the clubs they are listed under but most will.
Very strong. some are only under 19s. And with strength of all provinces especially in backs great for Irish side. Hopefully we can unearth some forwards as strong in the next few months

Registered for a Connacht club for interpros - Pretty sure the IRFU advised them otherwise and that any player whose registration was switched over to a Connacht club for interpro's purposes would not be switched back. Can tell you for a fact that some of those players are not registered with a Connacht club - Who are Connacht trying to kind? Complete propaganda and window dressing

The Lost Sheep · 05-09-2014 11:54am

Stainalert wrote: »

Registered for a Connacht club for interpros - Pretty sure the IRFU advised them otherwise and that any player whose registration was switched over to a Connacht club for interpro's purposes would not be switched back. Can tell you for a fact that some of those players are not registered with a Connacht club - Who are Connacht trying to kind? Complete propaganda and window dressing

Most of the 20s will just play for the club they are listed with - All but a few are with senior AIL clubs and will either play AIL or u20s in South West Conference the others are with their junior clubs in Connacht.
I phrased sentence wrong. Some players are with junior clubs in Connacht and will be on dual status with clubs in other provinces. They will primarily be playing with clubs in other provinces

ArmchairQB · 05-09-2014 2:41pm

I know of at least 6 in that Connacht squad who have no connection to any club there what so ever have never played or set foot in the club they are supposedly assigned to and will not play rugby for any Connacht club this season. I persume there is more. Connacht playing silly buggers and I know have been rebuked by IRFU for some sharp practice. Very dissapointing from a professional set up and hopefully young lads don't loose out in playing rugby next season as there is a huge question mark as to whether they will be allowed transfer back to clubs they were with as IRFU had warned Connacht that transfers back to clubs may be blocked.

Would be interesting if they published schools that these players attended

The Lost Sheep · 05-09-2014 2:52pm

ArmchairQB wrote: »

I know of at least 6 in that Connacht squad who have no connection to any club there what so ever have never played or set foot in the club they are supposedly assigned to and will not play rugby for any Connacht club this season. I persume there is more. Connacht playing silly buggers and I know have been rebuked by IRFU for some sharp practice. Very dissapointing from a professional set up and hopefully young lads don't loose out in playing rugby next season as there is a huge question mark as to whether they will be allowed transfer back to clubs they were with as IRFU had warned Connacht that transfers back to clubs may be blocked.

Would be interesting if they published schools that these players attended

Connacht are not playing silly buggers. They are picking the best players of those who are playing age grade rugby with sides in the province already and looking at those who are going to college in Galway and some who may not be. This isn't disappointing to see from Connacht. What would you want them to do instead of this?
No young players will lose(sic) out on playing rugby and if they wanted to play for Connacht but not play with a club in Connacht they should have looked to sign with a junior club in Connacht on dual status as they could then stay with their senior club in Munster/Leinster and still be registered to play with a Connacht club and be eligible for provincial 20s side.

They probably wont say which schools the players attended as all provinces don't..

ArmchairQB · 05-09-2014 3:02pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Connacht are not playing silly buggers. They are picking the best players of those who are playing age grade rugby with sides in the province already and looking at those who are going to college in Galway and some who may not be. This isn't disappointing to see from Connacht. What would you want them to do instead of this?
No young players will lose(sic) out on playing rugby and if they wanted to play for Connacht but not play with a club in Connacht they should have looked to sign with a junior club in Connacht on dual status as they could then stay with their senior club in Munster/Leinster and still be registered to play with a Connacht club and be eligible for provincial 20s side.

They probably wont say which schools the players attended as all provinces don't..

again your entitled to your opinion but totally disagree. Connacht are masking the fact that they are not developing most of these players. Why assign them to clubs at all. Leinster still publish school names until the players have decided on a club. Petty stupid stuff and fools nobody but shows that they think the public are stupid and think province is in great shape with new talent. They rightly develop talent from all over in academy and ifthey are investing in them they put them with clubs but doing what they do at 20's is silly no matter what angle you look at it from

Stainalert · 05-09-2014 3:21pm

ArmchairQB wrote: »

again your entitled to your opinion but totally disagree. Connacht are masking the fact that they are not developing most of these players. Why assign them to clubs at all. Leinster still publish school names until the players have decided on a club. Petty stupid stuff and fools nobody but shows that they think the public are stupid and think province is in great shape with new talent. They rightly develop talent from all over in academy and ifthey are investing in them they put them with clubs but doing what they do at 20's is silly no matter what angle you look at it from

Agree with ArmchairQB. Connacht are lying about the actual clubs these players are actually registered to and effectively trying to tell everyone that these players were developed from within which is complete baloney. Sorry Lost Sheep but it is completely indefensible and that is not just my opinion or Armchair QB's as they have been warned by the IRFU about this already.

stellenbosch · 05-09-2014 3:39pm

Stainalert wrote: »

Agree with ArmchairQB. Connacht are lying about the actual clubs these players are actually registered to and effectively trying to tell everyone that these players were developed from within which is complete baloney. Sorry Lost Sheep but it is completely indefensible and that is not just my opinion or Armchair QB's as they have been warned by the IRFU about this already.

Totally agree with Stainalert and QB:

FACT-Alex Penny is about to go to UCD to study Finance and Economics and will be playing for UCD-what does "registered" with NUIG mean????

I also understand that very recently there has been another warning issued to Connacht as to who they are selecting for their U18s schools squad.

TellALS · 05-09-2014 3:44pm

Pat O'Toole a connacht player and Ireland under-19 player is on the bench for Rory Litchfield, a player that was with Belvedere last year.
Marc Kelly a connacht academy player is on the bench for Penny who is obviously a Michaels lad.

By my count there is 5 connacht developed players in that squad (O'Donnell, Kyne, Lowndes, O'Toole and Hansberry) the rest are from leinster schools with a few lads from rockwell.

RobbieRuns · 05-09-2014 4:42pm

Hate to say that I agree with most that it is a shame we do not have more local developed lads on the team.

Particularly the likes of Pat O'Toole who was Ire U19 last year and Marc Kelly who is in the academy........... not making the team for the interpro's. (maybe they are not fully fit?)

Even if they are from Leinster schools, the green jersey is being pulled on by them, so good luck to one and all....... C'mon Connacht !

Hagz · 05-09-2014 9:40pm

Leinster u20 beat Munster 32-20.

Tox56 · 05-09-2014 9:43pm

Hagz wrote: »

Leinster u20 beat Munster 32-20.

Good win, on paper Leinster look very strong all round at U20 even with the biggest names missing, as do Ulster and Munster (don't know much about Connacht). Should be a very competitive national team this year

TellALS · 05-09-2014 9:44pm

Ulster won 27-7.

TellALS · 05-09-2014 9:45pm

Hagz wrote: »

Leinster u20 beat Munster 32-20.

Brewer injured early apparently

Hagz · 05-09-2014 9:53pm

TellALS wrote: »

Brewer injured early apparently

Step up Cleary. They'll be competing hard for that 12 jersey for Ireland.

RobbieRuns · 05-09-2014 10:09pm

Fergal Cleary is a class player. Will not be far off the Irish 12 jersey.

Ireland U20 2015 6 nations and junior world cup

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