Ireland U20 2015 6 nations and junior world cup

Hagz

Tox56 wrote: »

Isn't O'Donoghue that winger who was out of favour for the rest of the interpro's for some reason? Remember being very impressed by him watching a schools game a year or two ago

Yes, although I don't know if he was out of favour or carrying a knock. I would have thought he was the best winger of this age group.

The Lost Sheep

Hagz wrote: »

Full time Leinster 61 - 34 Connacht.

Connacht try scorers: Lowndes (2) , Penny, McVeigh, Leahy

Leinster try scorers: Oliver (3), Loughman (2), O'Donoghue (2), Murphy, Rock

Super game. Lowndes the Connacht scrum half was my man of the match though Oliver was very good as was Porter. Connacht started strong and took the lead initially but Leinster power through Oliver and Loughman was very difficult to stop.

Connacht should have plenty in Irish set up on basis of today. Potentially a fantastic irish side this year

Hagz

Seems like there's a lot of good half-back options this year.

Tox56

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Super game. Lowndes the Connacht scrum half was my man of the match though Oliver was very good as was Porter. Connacht started strong and took the lead initially but Leinster power through Oliver and Loughman was very difficult to stop.

Connacht should have plenty in Irish set up on basis of today. Potentially a fantastic irish side this year

How much of the Irish squad from last year is still available?

Hagz

In terms of the JWC squad and 6N from last season.

11.

Tox56

Hagz wrote: »

In terms of the JWC squad and 6N from last season.

11.

Wow, could be a big chance to do well this year, all the provinces look strong too

ArmchairQB

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Super game. Lowndes the Connacht scrum half was my man of the match though Oliver was very good as was Porter. Connacht started strong and took the lead initially but Leinster power through Oliver and Loughman was very difficult to stop.

Connacht should have plenty in Irish set up on basis of today. Potentially a fantastic irish side this year

I would hazard a guess that when the squad is announced that very few will still be associated with Connacht and most likely with Leinster clubs

RobbieRuns

Is that two years in a row that Munster have lost every game in the 20's interpros?

Connacht had two victories last year and two players I think on the JWC squad, with only one win over Munster this campaign, I would not be more hopeful of greater representation ! Mind you Gaffney and Maloney were the two and both are young enough this year, so I would say they will both get in fitness allowing.

Wonder how many Munster will get in?

The Lost Sheep

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Is that two years in a row that Munster have lost every game in the 20's interpros?

Connacht had two victories last year and two players I think on the JWC squad, with only one win over Munster this campaign, I would not be more hopeful of greater representation ! Mind you Gaffney and Maloney were the two and both are young enough this year, so I would say they will both get in fitness allowing.

Wonder how many Munster will get in?

It is. Munster need to do something about their systems and development through from the bottom up...
Conor Lowndes has to be involved with Ireland on the basis of his performance yesterday. Leinster and Ulster to dominate the squad. Hard to say about the other 2 provinces

Leinster88

Connacht might have 4 players involved that will be it: Moloney, Gaffney, Lowndes & O'Donnell. Potentially Kyne too but can't see much more than that.

Hagz

I would have thought Stephen McVeigh would be a possibility as well.

Leinster88

Hagz wrote: »

I would have thought Stephen McVeigh would be a possibility as well.

Possibly but he is a bit one dimensional.. has a chance though you are right.

Amazing Leinster still finished second considering how many players they were missing due to injury, the academy or rested post JWC.

Had the youngest team out too with Porter, Power, Reilly, Jones, Gilsenan & O'Brien involved.

If the under-19's had stayed with the under-19 team they could have won the interpros even more convincingly than they did.

ArmchairQB

Hagz wrote: »

In terms of the JWC squad and 6N from last season.

11.

Didn't think there were that many! That is a great help, is that the most we have ever had elgible for a 2nd time?

Stan27

Leinster88 wrote: »

Connacht might have 4 players involved that will be it: Moloney, Gaffney, Lowndes & O'Donnell. Potentially Kyne too but can't see much more than that.

What about ridgeway ( plays 12) ment to e very good and played in lansdown last year

Hagz

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Didn't think there were that many! That is a great help, is that the most we have ever had elgible for a 2nd time?

Couldn't tell you, but I would be confident that it is.

Stan27 wrote: »

What about ridgeway ( plays 12) ment to e very good and played in lansdown last year

The competition at 12 is pretty fierce. Harrison Brewer is a guarantee if he's fit. And then you have Fergal Cleary and Conor McKee.

The Lost Sheep

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Didn't think there were that many! That is a great help, is that the most we have ever had elgible for a 2nd time?

It was 9 or 10 who were involved. Definitely the most who could come back for a second world cup

Leinster88 wrote: »

Possibly but he is a bit one dimensional.. has a chance though you are right.

Amazing Leinster still finished second considering how many players they were missing due to injury, the academy or rested post JWC.

Had the youngest team out too with Porter, Power, Reilly, Jones, Gilsenan & O'Brien involved.

If the under-19's had stayed with the under-19 team they could have won the interpros even more convincingly than they did.

Not that amazing they finished second considering how strong Leinster have been at this age group all through from u18 and up
If Under 19s had stayed with under 19 team... irrelevant. Better for Leinster and Ireland that they didn't. More players were looked at as a result of them playing up

Leinster88 wrote: »

Connacht might have 4 players involved that will be it: Moloney, Gaffney, Lowndes & O'Donnell. Potentially Kyne too but can't see much more than that.

Moynihan and Romaine wouldn't be far off either

Hagz

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

It was 9 or 10 who were involved. Definitely the most who could come back for a second world cup

1. Sean McNulty (was involved in the 6nations for the England, Italy and France game)
2. Oisin Heffernan
3. Joshua Murphy
4. Rory Moloney
5. Nick McCarthy
6. Jack Cullen
7. Ross Byrne
8. Harrison Brewer
9. Garry Ringrose
10. Ciaran Gaffney
11. Billy Dardis

ArmchairQB

Hagz wrote: »

1. Sean McNulty (was involved in the 6nations for the England, Italy and France game)
2. Oisin Heffernan
3. Joshua Murphy
4. Rory Moloney
5. Nick McCarthy
6. Jack Cullen
7. Ross Byrne
8. Harrison Brewer
9. Garry Ringrose
10. Ciaran Gaffney
11. Billy Dardis

I don't see Munster coming out well in selection this year and personally think McNulty is way to tall for hooker

Leinster88

Hookers a weak enough spot.. it will be mcnulty with probably mccall on the bench.

Moynihan wont get near the team unless therr are heavy injuries.

Romaine might if injuries are a factor but Thompson and Ryan and O'Connor are streets ahead of him.

ArmchairQB

Leinster88 wrote: »

Hookers a weak enough spot.. it will be mcnulty with probably mccall on the bench.

Moynihan wont get near the team unless therr are heavy injuries.

Romaine might if injuries are a factor but Thompson and Ryan and O'Connor are streets ahead of him.

Leinster Hooker McKenna seemed to go well enough for interpro's

lukey967

Hagz wrote: »

Couldn't tell you, but I would be confident that it is.



The competition at 12 is pretty fierce. Harrison Brewer is a guarantee if he's fit. And then you have Fergal Cleary and Conor McKee.

Would not say Harrison Brewer is a Guarentee. IMO he is overrated.
Think Fergal Cleary would go very well at 12. Big guy and a good distributor

Hagz

lukey967 wrote: »

Would not say Harrison Brewer is a Guarentee. IMO he is overrated.

I don't think it's really debatable. Ruddock picked him last year when he was a year young and wasn't in an academy. He's not going to overlook him now when he's been a part of his squad already and is in the Leinster Academy.

The Brewer Ringrose combo is the thing I'm most excited about for this years u20s.

ArmchairQB

Hagz wrote: »

I don't think it's really debatable. Ruddock picked him last year when he was a year young and wasn't in an academy. He's not going to overlook him now when he's been a part of his squad already and is in the Leinster Academy.

The Brewer Ringrose combo is the thing I'm most excited about for this years u20s.

Can see both of them being involved IF FIT! Brewer has an unfortuanate injury record, he hasn't lived up to his hype but I always thought there was to much said about him and it is this season that he should be judged on. Cleary if I was coach would be a far safer option, also covers 10 and displays the agressivness you want from a 12 both in attack and defence. Big year for Brewer

RedemptionZ

What do people think of Ringrose in potential? I didn't rate him much up until last year where he seriously impressed. Still not sure if his size and athletic ability is up to international standard but he at the very least seems like he could make it pro, serious flair in the lad. Haven't seen enough of him to judge but with the right coaching reckon he could make it to an Ireland XV at some stage. Here's hoping.

Hagz

I didn't think he had any shot of playing for Ireland u19 never mind playing for u20s a year young and being nominated for player of the jwc. I thought all the hype around him was solely on the back of his goal kicking. Obviously I was proved very wrong.

He was great last season, and his performance against Wales was outstanding. I'd like to see him play for the 'A' team or in the AIL before I judge his potential though. He looks to have bulked up a bit looking at the interpro pics which is a positive.

RobbieRuns

No doubt that Ringrose did well last year, especially in the JWC but I think that he will get a run for his money from Sam Arnold of Ulster. Outstanding rugby player who was injured last year.

ArmchairQB

Squad in very good shape this year. Top 4 with not the greatest and a pretty young squad last year would be hoping for better again this season with experience and extra quality coming in from this year

Stainalert

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Squad in very good shape this year. Top 4 with not the greatest and a pretty young squad last year would be hoping for better again this season with experience and extra quality coming in from this year

Agree think a top 4 with a young squad last year depleted significantly by injuries was an outstanding achievement and a far cry from a few years back when we really struggled in this competition. Bodes well for this years competition.

RobbieRuns

If it is the JWC 4th that you are referring to, it was a good achievement but to be realistic, the truth is we had a great draw. This year with the baby blacks in our group it is going to be harder. Not dampening enthusiasm or anything just keeping expectations at the right level.

Our six nations performance last year was not what it should have been only beating Scotland and Italy, so I would concentrate on improving on that and then take it from there.

Stainalert

RobbieRuns wrote: »

If it is the JWC 4th that you are referring to, it was a good achievement but to be realistic, the truth is we had a great draw. This year with the baby blacks in our group it is going to be harder. Not dampening enthusiasm or anything just keeping expectations at the right level.

Our six nations performance last year was not what it should have been only beating Scotland and Italy, so I would concentrate on improving on that and then take it from there.

Very harsh