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Clare GAA Discussion part 2 , No Purple Jumpers Allowed !!

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    #1802
    4Ad
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    Mills 6 points up in injury time.
    Hon Da Fireballs !


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    #1803
    LuckyGent88
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    4Ad wrote: »
    Mills 6 points up in injury time.
    Hon Da Fireballs !

    That’s a great win for them and once again Inamona come up short. Lots of talent in the squad but not producing it when matters.

    Ballyea and the bridge loving all this. You would have to thing the winner will come from them.


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    #1804
    Clareman
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    LuckyGent88 wrote: »
    That’s a great win for them and once again Inamona come up short. Lots of talent in the squad but not producing it when matters.

    Ballyea and the bridge loving all this. You would have to thing the winner will come from them.

    That means that they'll meet in the semi finals


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    #1805
    Sterling Archer
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    How was the Clare Gaa TV coverage of todays games?


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    #1806
    windy shepard henderson
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    Sterling Archer wrote: »
    How was the Clare Gaa TV coverage of todays games?

    grand no real problems since week 1 in the championship to be fair


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    #1807
    LuckyGent88
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    Any semi final draw in the hurling??

    Can eire og and feakle play this weekend coming now that eire og don’t have the football to play??


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    #1808
    Clareman
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    Draw is on tomorrow night for the football, Eire Og are up next weekend against Feakle

    https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1297983680997142528?s=20


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    #1809
    BloodyBill
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    The Semi final draw will be interesting. If Sixmilebridge and Fireballs draw each other it would be really interesting for the people in both parishes 9around Kilkishen and Kilmurry..The Bridge are used to playing other border parishes but rarely play the Mills.
    Ballyea look very strong. They'd be my favourites so far. Good panel. If Eire Og and the Mills draw each other it would be good for the championship to have a relative under dog in the final. I dont know how good the standard is overall. The games seem very competitive and touch is good. The intensity might not be top notch though. Sixmilebridge getting trounced by Ballygunnar last year at home means there's a caveat over the standard in Clare at the moment.


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    #1810
    Figerty
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    BloodyBill wrote: »
    The Semi final draw will be interesting. If Sixmilebridge and Fireballs draw each other it would be really interesting for the people in both parishes 9around Kilkishen and Kilmurry..The Bridge are used to playing other border parishes but rarely play the Mills.
    Ballyea look very strong. They'd be my favourites so far. Good panel. If Eire Og and the Mills draw each other it would be good for the championship to have a relative under dog in the final. I dont know how good the standard is overall. The games seem very competitive and touch is good. The intensity might not be top notch though. Sixmilebridge getting trounced by Ballygunnar last year at home means there's a caveat over the standard in Clare at the moment.

    Mills have momentum.
    Ballyea are abit unknown yet. Kimaley without a regular goalie were badly weakened so it's hard ot judge. A few other injurises didn't help.
    Bridge are always good.
    Feakle/Eire Og. who know. Feakle will get in your face and hurl away and have more hurling than they get credit for. . Eire Og are very effective and have talent.


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    #1811
    Clareman
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    Haven't seen many games this year but to me Ballyea and the Bridge seem to be well ahead of everyone else by a lot of the Ballyea lads will be playing football as well they might run out of steam playing week after week. As Figerty says the Mills have momentum and no-one want to play them, Eire Og will have 3 weeks in a row which is a big ask for them but they seem to have gotten things right this year, Feakle are probably the worst team for them to be playing, they have a great bunch of sticky defenders and a couple of decent forwards.


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    #1812
    Marty Xavier
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    Figerty wrote: »
    Mills have momentum.
    Ballyea are abit unknown yet. Kimaley without a regular goalie were badly weakened so it's hard ot judge. A few other injurises didn't help.
    Bridge are always good.
    Feakle/Eire Og. who know. Feakle will get in your face and hurl away and have more hurling than they get credit for. . Eire Og are very effective and have talent.

    Apart from two wayward puckouts the keeper did fine and certainly wasn't the difference in the sides. Kilmaley ran out of steam, Ballyea were far better at creating chances but their top men - TK and Deasy were off with the shooting and kept Kilmaley in it.
    I would argue that we know well what Ballyea bring and lack the bit of depth that SMB have. The others are a step behind I think though I haven't seen the Mills this year but were at a couple of their games last year.


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    #1813
    Figerty
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    Marty Xavier wrote: »
    Apart from two wayward puckouts the keeper did fine and certainly wasn't the difference in the sides. Kilmaley ran out of steam, Ballyea were far better at creating chances but their top men - TK and Deasy were off with the shooting and kept Kilmaley in it.
    I would argue that we know well what Ballyea bring and lack the bit of depth that SMB have. The others are a step behind I think though I haven't seen the Mills this year but were at a couple of their games last year.

    He did fine in the cirucmstance. I'd agree except that goalkeeping does more than puckouts. It also limits how you play when you have a new goalie in. Your full back line has to play differently . I aggree Deasy was off form. I reckon Kelly is carry a leg. I think he sprained an ankle in the first match against Crusheen.

    Running out of steam, and putting on two subs with two minutes to go is a self inflicted wound.


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    #1814
    LuckyGent88
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    Bridge v eire og or feakle
    Ballyea v the mills

    So bridge v feakle and then bridge v Ballyea.


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    #1815
    Figerty
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    LuckyGent88 wrote: »
    Bridge v eire og or feakle
    Ballyea v the mills

    So bridge v feakle and then bridge v Ballyea.

    Good wind up.. Eire Og should beat Feakle but not easily.
    Mills will fancy their chances against Ballyea. Good backs unit and will be willing to graft for scores.


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    #1816
    Clareman
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    There's 4 good games to look forward to in the hurling now, you'd imagine that it'll be Eire Og over Feakle and then the Bridge over Eire Og and Ballyea over the Mills for a Ballyea/Bridge final that could go either way but any of those matches could be won by either side so it's a tough 1 to call.


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    #1817
    Marty Xavier
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    I think Feakle will take the townies.
    Ballyea will have their hands full with the Mills, should be a cracker. Winners this year will earn it.


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    #1818
    BloodyBill
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    Marty Xavier wrote: »
    I think Feakle will take the townies.
    Ballyea will have their hands full with the Mills, should be a cracker. Winners this year will earn it.

    Sixmilebridge have had an easy run so far. Id expect them to have 5 points at least to spare over Eire Og or Feakle. They are two decent teams. Eire Og have more talent but can they dig out a victory in a tight game. I doubt it.
    Ballyea v the Fireballs is interesting. Youd never know. If the Mills can keep it tight for 40 mins then its a lottery but Kelly and Co could have the game won by half time.


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    #1819
    finbarrk
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    Cooraclare v Miltown tonight in Kilmihill @7.00pm. Hope its not waterlogged with all the rain thats falling back this way today.


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    #1820
    supernova5
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    The club Championship in each county this year has been invigorating, there's been some great action, tightly contested games and high scoring ones.
    A very very notable feature for me has been the lack of goals scored in the Clare senior Championship to date, I think its fair to say there is no real goal poacher or major goal scoring threat operating within the Clare senior club scene.
    When you translate that over onto the Clare team and extended panel is easily seen why we're failing to feature in the business end of tournaments


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    #1821
    Sterling Archer
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    supernova5 wrote: »
    The club Championship in each county this year has been invigorating, there's been some great action, tightly contested games and high scoring ones.
    A very very notable feature for me has been the lack of goals scored in the Clare senior Championship to date, I think its fair to say there is no real goal poacher or major goal scoring threat operating within the Clare senior club scene.
    When you translate that over onto the Clare team and extended panel is easily seen why we're failing to feature in the business end of tournaments

    39 in total by the looks of this tweet https://twitter.com/ShaneLorigan/status/1299026961373843456?s=19


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    #1822
    BloodyBill
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    supernova5 wrote: »
    The club Championship in each county this year has been invigorating, there's been some great action, tightly contested games and high scoring ones.
    A very very notable feature for me has been the lack of goals scored in the Clare senior Championship to date, I think its fair to say there is no real goal poacher or major goal scoring threat operating within the Clare senior club scene.
    When you translate that over onto the Clare team and extended panel is easily seen why we're failing to feature in the business end of tournaments

    O Donnell is obviously a great goal scorer by any measure. I think he's being played too far out for Eire Og . But i agree that there is a shortage of goals. There's very little heads up hurling to see if a goal is on. Its like the easy point is the preferred option. A player in midfield and the half forward line should always be encouraged to help develop a goal chance and not take an easy point. Sixmilebridge got tanked at home last year my a team that makes and takes goals..ie Ballygunnar.
    Clare are a team that need gaols because we don't have the ability to dominate possession like Limerick can with their half forwards size and power


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    #1823
    Clareman
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    BloodyBill wrote: »
    O Donnell is obviously a great goal scorer by any measure. I think he's being played too far out for Eire Og . But i agree that there is a shortage of goals. There's very little heads up hurling to see if a goal is on. Its like the easy point is the preferred option. A player in midfield and the half forward line should always be encouraged to help develop a goal chance and not take an easy point. Sixmilebridge got tanked at home last year my a team that makes and takes goals..ie Ballygunnar.
    Clare are a team that need gaols because we don't have the ability to dominate possession like Limerick can with their half forwards size and power

    I don't know if I'd be calling him a great goal scored by any measure, yes he is a good man to finish a chance but he doesn't have a great track record, it can be said that he's more a target man/2 man full forward line, etc. etc., but his goal scoring record since 2013 is:
    2014 - No goal
    2015 - 1 goal against Offaly
    2016 - 1 goal against Laois
    2017 - 2 goals against Limerick
    2018 - 1 goal against Galway
    2019 - 1 goal against Cork

    That's not a great return in my opinion.


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    #1824
    Figerty
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    Clareman wrote: »
    I don't know if I'd be calling him a great goal scored by any measure, yes he is a good man to finish a chance but he doesn't have a great track record, it can be said that he's more a target man/2 man full forward line, etc. etc., but his goal scoring record since 2013 is:
    2014 - No goal
    2015 - 1 goal against Offaly
    2016 - 1 goal against Laois
    2017 - 2 goals against Limerick
    2018 - 1 goal against Galway
    2019 - 1 goal against Cork

    That's not a great return in my opinion.

    It's probably as good as we have at the moment.
    I think Jamsie O'Connor scored 1 goal in his championship carreer, and he didn't spend most of hit chasing two full backs! I think you may be overlooking his ability to create also. With Eire Og, he is very far out the field.


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    #1825
    Clareman
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    Figerty wrote: »
    It's probably as good as we have at the moment.
    I think Jamsie O'Connor scored 1 goal in his championship carreer, and he didn't spend most of hit chasing two full backs! I think you may be overlooking his ability to create also. With Eire Og, he is very far out the field.

    Jamesey wasn't touted as being a good goal scorer and didn't play corner forward


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    #1826
    Figerty
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    Clareman wrote: »
    Jamesey wasn't touted as being a good goal scorer and didn't play corner forward

    I'm well aware of that, but when you look at stats, then you have to look at the broader picture.


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    #1827
    Clareman
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    Figerty wrote: »
    I'm well aware of that, but when you look at stats, then you have to look at the broader picture.

    He was called a great goal scorer and I dont think he is so I looked at his goal scoring record which isn't great in my opinion, he doesn't have a great overall scoring record in fact.

    The excuses that are used for him are 2 man full forward line, bad ball, ball winner role, playing out the field, wins frees, etc etc which are all fair enough but I wouldn't call him a great goal scorer.


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    #1828
    Clareman
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    Clareman wrote: »
    I don't know if I'd be calling him a great goal scored by any measure, yes he is a good man to finish a chance but he doesn't have a great track record, it can be said that he's more a target man/2 man full forward line, etc. etc., but his goal scoring record since 2013 is:
    2014 - No goal
    2015 - 1 goal against Offaly
    2016 - 1 goal against Laois
    2017 - 2 goals against Limerick
    2018 - 1 goal against Galway
    2019 - 1 goal against Cork

    That's not a great return in my opinion.

    In 2013 he scored 6 goals, so in 1 season he scored as many goals as he did in the following 6 seasons


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    #1829
    BloodyBill
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    O Donnell is one of Clares best 6 forwards of all time. He's better than Sparrow, way more of a team player. He's a great creator and brings others into the game. If he was in a better Eire Og or Clare team we'd see his real value.


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    #1830
    Clareman
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    We're all entitled to our opinions, I think himself and Kelly are living on their reputations from 2013 and haven't lived up to their potential, then again it's hard to know where to go after scoring 3-3 in an All Ireland final or being Young and Senior Player of the Year.


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    #1831
    Figerty
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    Clareman wrote: »
    He was called a great goal scorer and I dont think he is so I looked at his goal scoring record which isn't great in my opinion, he doesn't have a great overall scoring record in fact.

    The excuses that are used for him are 2 man full forward line, bad ball, ball winner role, playing out the field, wins frees, etc etc which are all fair enough but I wouldn't call him a great goal scorer.

    You could say he is a scorer of great goals..


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