Peter Casey to contest the European elections

is_that_so wrote: »

But absolutely nothing to do with Europe and do you honestly think the rest of them will let him get away with just pushing for votes with that line?

Let him away? What do you mean by that? They're going to go on the radio and call him a racist? Tried that and it didn't seem to work in the Presidential.
Ultimately though, Casey will do nothing for Ireland in Europe - though the average voter (IMO) couldn't name what Hayes, McGuinness, Harkin etc has done for them anyway. (though I do know they voted in favour of the restrictive Article 13)

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah it didn't work but no parties campaigned and ultimately nobody was too bothered beyond the offensive tone of it as he was never going to win. This is a multi-seat election requiring transfers. Parties are well-drilled in getting their message out. If he is seen to be a threat they will go after his clueless policies and if all he's got is that single dubious (local) tactic he will not get the transfers.

Maybe you're right but...while no parties campaigned per se, they certainly had all the talking heads on Newstalk and RTE condemning the man for an opinion that, i'd guess, 80% of Irish people would agree with (not a distinct ethnic group, shouldn't be allowed to occupy lands, are taking the mick in terms of houses and always have the hands out or hands in the taxpayers pocket).
I'll give Casey a transfer, I've no reason not to. McGuinness and the other Europhiles can say nothing about him that I can think of to disuade me.

I know Casey is a waffler. I would probably not want to be stuck with him at a party. I'd say his interests are narrow and he probably isn't very well read (though has a certain intelligence, I'm sure). He's totemic. He represents what the establishment dislikes and will speak a truth that we otherwise don't hear put forth by those we elect or on the airwaves - basically that everyone should be treated the same, that travellers need to get their collective shid together, and have had oodles of taxes thrown at them, and are simply milking it.

Diceicle wrote: »

Maybe you're right but...while no parties campaigned per se, they certainly had all the talking heads on Newstalk and RTE condemning the man for an opinion that, i'd guess, 80% of Irish people would agree with (not a distinct ethnic group, shouldn't be allowed to occupy lands, are taking the mick in terms of houses and always have the hands out or hands in the taxpayers pocket).
I'll give Casey a transfer, I've no reason not to. McGuinness and the other Europhiles can say nothing about him that I can think of to disuade me.

I know Casey is a waffler. I would probably not want to be stuck with him at a party. I'd say his interests are narrow and he probably isn't very well read (though has a certain intelligence, I'm sure). He's totemic. He represents what the establishment dislikes and will speak a truth that we otherwise don't hear put forth by those we elect or on the airwaves - basically that everyone should be treated the same, that travellers need to get their collective shid together, and have had oodles of taxes thrown at them, and are simply milking it.

None of what he was on about then is part of the Euros and he will be forcibly reminded of that every time he tries to do it. As for anti-establishment you already have Ming and Carthy.

A more important question is where his votes are going to come from. Apart from the usual suspects the rest will do well to accumulate more than 10%. Labour & Greens voters will be very unlikely to opt for him in transfers.

The three current incumbents were at 14%+, with Ming closer to 20%. IMO it is doubtful that the Harkin vote will transfer to him and it could go anywhere. Meanwhile FF were on about 18% collectively, Decent vote management there puts them in the running. He might think he can go after Carthy and Ming but they'd need to lose a lot of votes for him to be competitive. Uphill battle, one I don't think he can win.

If only Casey made a comment about the CAB searches in Cork, plenty of votes could be in it boss!!!

is_that_so wrote: »

Well it's really a vote more for SF, than Carthy.

That's probably true, but a bit of a shame.

I'm sure a lot of people vote along party lines where at least they can predict how their MEP will vote on a range of issues. But I don't want to elect just a voting machine, which is what you eventually get when you vote for Carthy - some nobody replacement who nobody knows anything about.

Infini wrote: »

Hopefully he doesn't get elected, he seems to be an idiot that got a bit popular because he called out something as it is nothing more. Isn't worth electing headbangers to these thing's they end up screwing people over because they're too stupid and incompetent to do the job in the end.

Who would you vote for?

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/casey-turns-his-guns-on-freeloader-immigrants-2b8wpvlgp

Finally somebody admits it, people sponging of the taxpayer for 7 years or more in DP.

Ah Peter Casey's policy of the week!

gandalf wrote: »

So you don't know what he stands for but you're committing your vote to him. What an asset to society you are :rolleyes:

The vast majority of votes ever cast are in that manner.

He'll get an awful lot of votes as well because those most against him tend to be the types from the modern Priest class.

Many will look at it being a positive to be disliked by them.

eagle eye wrote: »

You obviously don't understand rural Ireland, there are loads if people who will vote like this.
If you stand on a platform of being against travellers getting everything, foreign Dole spongers, social housing and then you are for bog cutting and more hospital beds you are doing it right to get elected.

Most of the constituency is not rural.

Danzy wrote: »

The vast majority of votes ever cast are in that manner.

He'll get an awful lot of votes as well because those most against him tend to be the types from the modern Priest class.

Many will look at it being a positive to be disliked by them.

This seems to suggest you support him or that most of the country is this made-up class. He's really an empty suit, a rich man who's bored with retirement and fancies himself as a politician.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I suppose you're intimately familiar with every candidate you've ever voted for then.

I identify with Peter Casey. He's not afraid to tell the truth. That's all I need to know about him. The polical classes are terrified of him because he calls it as it is.

You may also need to know that he tried to join Fianna Fail.

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Not my vote, and I don't know how you could come up with this.

Its true, you vote for people who best represent your views however you will disagree with aspects of party/people policy.

I don't believe FG planned to give travellers ethnic status. Had political parties been honest about this for GE16 votes would be different. FG accepting thousands of economic migrants wasn't part of there manifesto.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I suppose you're intimately familiar with every candidate you've ever voted for then.

I identify with Peter Casey. He's not afraid to tell the truth. That's all I need to know about him. The polical classes are terrified of him because he calls it as it is.

What's with this imagined fear nonsense? They'll deal with him as needed. The only ones possibly under threat are Ming and Carthy. I think that threat is minimal but he's an irritant they still have to keep an eye on.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Hell do more than the current crop of useless ****ers in Brussels. Hopefully he uses his platform to solve rural burglaries and ends direct provision. There are 4 people of voting age in my house. All voting casey no. 1

Strasbourg not Brussels. And they don't solve any of this. I'd abstain and save those 4 votes for the GE because we know he'll be back again for that.

Faugheen wrote: »

What will he do? What are his policies to tackle travellers and Johnny Foreigners?

I can tell you with 100% guarantee that he will do f*ck all, but he’ll keep himself popular by ‘telling the truth’.

How can he tackle rural burglaries and direct provision in Europe? You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Those laws are made here.

You’re voting for him because underneath it all, you don’t like foreigners or travellers. You know deep down he’ll do nothing about it but you’ll vote for him anyway.

What has he done about it since 'telling the truth'. He refuses to talk about it now in interview...that is what he has done!

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I suppose you're intimately familiar with every candidate you've ever voted for then.

I identify with Peter Casey. He's not afraid to tell the truth. That's all I need to know about him. The polical classes are terrified of him because he calls it as it is.

Well I ensure I am familiar with the policies that they are espousing you have admitted you don't know what he stands for beyond populace ****e that appears in the papers.

What truth does he tell? The guy doesn't even appear to be paying taxes in this country. All I see is a rich guy who will do fVck all to alleviate the problems of this state and the gimps who will enable him to get into a position where he can only cause more damage.

As for direct provision yes something needs to be done about the length that people are held in it in this state. There should be enough resources in place to hasten decisions and either deport those who don't have a case or let those who do start their new lives in this country and contribute to it. I see nothing from this guy bar soundbites and absolutely nothing of substance on real solutions to real problems.

eagle eye wrote: »

Which politician have you voted for who has provided in-depth knowledge on things?

I'd settle for even superficial knowledge rather than twitter style rabble rousing

Casey can do exactly nothing about direct provision or national policy as an MEP. What he's doing here is appealing to the same people who suddenly supported him during the presendential election when he attacked travellers but going after another minority group.

It's pure cynicism and appealing to the lowest common denominator who just want someone else to blame for their own problems.

Casey could do nothing about travellers as President and nothing about direct provision as an MEP, but there's a cohort of easily manipulated people out there who will vote for him solely on the basis that he's going after them.

Casey is the leader we need, he tells it like it is unlike the usual waffle trotted out by Leo and Slimon and the likes.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Are you calling me a gimp?

The only gimps around here are the brainwashed fools voting for FFFGLB expecting a different outcome. Casey will shake things up.

Lads like Jean Paul Juncker and Donald tusk will be very uncomfortable when actual representatives of the people arrive to Brussels to shake things up.

Ok, not having a poke at you but you are confusing the European Commission and the EU Parliament. The parliament approves the Commission team. Commissioners are nominated by countries. The parliament also approves EU laws. MEPs align and join one of the 8 groups as voting is generally by block.
Tusk BTW is President of the European Council and voted in by countries.

BarryD2 wrote: »

There is still a basic truth at the heart of his campaign issues. Ordinary people hear and understand that, whilst accepting he exaggerates.

Oh, that really depends on the week. The only truth is that he wants to get elected. His problem will be transfers.