Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

pad199207 · 19-01-2020 12:04am

Danno wrote: »

Massive nose-dive in temperatures in the last five minutes since my last post. Now -3.8c!

Yeah Dan, I’m having erratic temperatures here all evening despite being calm too!

Danno · 19-01-2020 12:13am

pad199207 wrote: »

Yeah Dan, I’m having erratic temperatures here all evening despite being calm too!

Subtle winds around 10m are doing this causing downwelling of air under high pressure (which has breached 1040hPa here now). There is shallow fog around here and there seems to be some inversion cap in places at roof height of standard two-storey houses.

Snow Garden · 19-01-2020 12:13am

Monkeynut wrote: »

Bring a yellow ball.

They tend to close golf courses if the ground is frozen.

Gaoth Laidir · 19-01-2020 12:19am

Several stations at 1040 hPa at 2300: Athlone Costume Barracks, Cork Airport, Gurteen, Moore Park, Mullingar, Oak Park. Exact figures show Cork Airport the highest on 1040.3 hPa.

Lowest is 1037 hPa at Donegal Airport and Malin Head.

Freezing fog at Shannon Airport. Visibility 100 metres

METAR EINN 182300Z 09003KT 0100 R24/0900D R06/0275N FZFG VV001 M01/M01 Q1039 NOSIG=

Danno · 19-01-2020 12:24am

Coastal and upland stations are by-and-large above freezing: https://www.xcweather.co.uk/observations

Mt Dillon's -4c along with Benson, England top the cold temperatures table.

Andy From Sligo · 19-01-2020 12:48am

I dont want to come across as authoritative and telling people what they should do with their own pets but tonight in our neck of the woods the temperature will plummet to -4 degrees Centigrade or even colder and there are still people who will leave their dogs and other small animals out in the cold tonight , in the back yard or just letting them roam the streets . But could pet owners just imagine would they like to be outside sleeping in these temperatures. Just because dogs have fur coats this dose not necessarily mean they will survive or not be caused pain from the frost , especially animals like short haired dogs and the like . plus the frost (as baking hot tarmac in the summer) can damage the pads of their paws.

If you are one of these pet owners who don't allow dogs into the house , would you please even consider a dry and draught free shed or garage for them to sleep in when temperatures fall like this with preferably some kid of heat and a nice bed and some blankets - its only the humane thing to do on nights like this .

And if you hear your dog or other dogs in the distance tonight moaning/whining/barking and crying its a further indication that they are cold and need to come in.

Thank you.

GoneHome · 19-01-2020 1:29am

South Co Limerick -2.1 at the moment, glad to be indoors with a blazing fire

GoneHome · 19-01-2020 1:32am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

if you hear your dog or other dogs in the distance tonight moaning/whining/barking and crying its a further indication that they are cold and need to come in.

Not a dog owner but a cat owner here Andy and she's in here asleep by the stove since 7 pm this evening.

Danno · 19-01-2020 1:35am

Fog thickening here in South Laois. Hit -4.0c earlier, but yo-yoing between -3c and -4c since. Wouldn't rule out a -6c or -7c by dawn at this rate.

Mortelaro · 19-01-2020 1:39am

Baltinglass Transport infrastructure Ireland site inCo Wicklow currently reporting -5.4c

RobertKK · 19-01-2020 1:42am

-0.2C here but its high ground here in Kilkenny, while I see in Kilkenny city its -2.7C.

Andy From Sligo · 19-01-2020 1:46am

-2.9'c currently - south sligo

Danno · 19-01-2020 1:48am

Another dive in temperatures, currently -4.3c on the AWS. This seems to be a trend tonight - plateau for an hour and then drop by 1c or so in a few minutes.

The AWS here in south Laois reported -4.2c last night (Mercury thermometer reported -4.5c), so probably safe to say that tonight beats last night as the coldest night of the winter so far. If we breach -4.5c tonight, it will be the coldest night since Ireland's 2018 record low of -9.7c was reported on March 1st that year.

Danno · 19-01-2020 2:07am

At 1am it's a chilly -4.8c on the AWS making tonight the coldest since Storm Emma in 2018.

Just for comparison...

A low of -4.7c (AWS) was recorded in 2019
A low of -9.4c (AWS) was recorded in 2018
A low of -5.2c (AWS) was recorded in 2017
A low of -6.7c (AWS) was recorded in 2016
A low of -4.9c (AWS) was recorded in 2015
A low of -5.6c (AWS) was recorded in 2014
A low of -6.1c (AWS) was recorded in April 2013
A low of -5.2c (AWS) was recorded in 2012
A low of -6.6c (AWS) was recorded in 2011
A low of -13.4c (AWS) was recorded in 2010 (Manual was -14.0c)
A low of -7.0c (AWS) was recorded in 2009

Andy From Sligo · 19-01-2020 2:23am

Danno wrote: »

At 1am it's a chilly -4.8c on the AWS making tonight the coldest since Storm Emma in 2018.

Just for comparison...

A low of -4.7c (AWS) was recorded in 2019
A low of -9.4c (AWS) was recorded in 2018
A low of -5.2c (AWS) was recorded in 2017
A low of -6.7c (AWS) was recorded in 2016
A low of -4.9c (AWS) was recorded in 2015
A low of -5.6c (AWS) was recorded in 2014
A low of -6.1c (AWS) was recorded in April 2013
A low of -5.2c (AWS) was recorded in 2012
A low of -6.6c (AWS) was recorded in 2011
A low of -13.4c (AWS) was recorded in 2010 (Manual was -14.0c)
A low of -7.0c (AWS) was recorded in 2009

God yeah 2010 that was a cold one, peoples pipes bursting and everything

JCX BXC · 19-01-2020 2:27am

-1.0c in West Clare after an earlier low of -1.4c. Strange that Shannon is up to 1°c.

redsteveireland · 19-01-2020 2:28am

GoneHome wrote: »

Not a dog owner but a cat owner here Andy and she's in here asleep by the stove since 7 pm this evening.

Just home now, - 4.5 out, and I could hear dogs and possibly cats or foxes around the place. So obviously people do leave them out around here.

Just checked and its actually can back up to - 2

Andy From Sligo · 19-01-2020 2:35am

redsteveireland wrote: »

Just home now, - 4.5 out, and I could hear dogs and possibly cats or foxes around the place. So obviously people do leave them out around here.

Its a shocking indictment even in this day and age. Is it ignorance , the fact that some people think they have fur and will be ok , or that they are naturally outdoor animals and they will be ok , some people actually thinking its cruel to have them inside , and then some (even though supposed to be family pets) treat them like animals. But then you do get the other end of the spectrum that treat their pets as one of the family ... or sometimes better treated than one of the family!

Nabber · 19-01-2020 2:38am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Its a shocking indictment even in this day and age. Is it ignorance , the fact that some people think they have fur and will be ok , or that they are naturally outdoor animals and they will be ok , some people actually thinking its cruel to have them inside , and then some (even though supposed to be family pets) treat them like animals. But then you do get the other end of the spectrum that treat their pets as one of the family ... or sometimes better treated than one of the family!

I agree with you.

The dogs breed determines it's tolerance to temperature. A healthy huskie for example would be fine in -4c

Danno · 19-01-2020 2:47am

This is the inverse of watching temperatures on a hot summer day. A little breeze from some direction and it drops/rises dramatically.

Got -4.9c around ten minutes ago, now -3.9c! A gust of 6mph (highest of the day) clearly mixed the airmass a bit!

Monkeynut · 19-01-2020 4:25am

Kingswood Rover wrote: »

Nah fecks up the golf in the mornings:mad:

All joking aside with the yellow ball comment.
I had a browse with the effect of frost and a golf course.

I seen this article.

http://dmgcc.blogspot.com wrote:

Frost is basically frozen dew that has crystallized on the grass, making it hard and brittle. A grass blade is actually 90 percent water, therefore it also freezes. Because of the short mowing height (sometimes as low as 1/8 inch) and fragile nature of the turf, putting greens are most affected by frost. Walking on frost-covered greens causes the plant to break and cell walls to rupture, thereby losing its ability to function normally. When the membrane is broken, much like an egg, it cannot be put back together.

Golfers who ignore frost delays will not see immediate damage. The proof generally comes 48-72 hours later as the plant leaves turn brown and die. The result is a thinning of the putting surface and a weakening of the plant. The greens in turn become more susceptible to disease and weeds. While it may not appear to be much of an issue if a foursome begins play early on frost-covered greens, consider the number of footprints that may occur on any given hole by one person is approximately 60. Multiply that by 18 holes with an average of 200 rounds per day and the result is 216,000 footprints on greens in a day or 6,480,000 in a month.

highdef · 19-01-2020 4:47am

-5.4c and falling in North Kildare.

DOCARCH · 19-01-2020 7:07am

Markree and Mount Dillon both reporting -5c in 0500 reports.

-2.7c atm in Dublin 16.

DOCARCH · 19-01-2020 7:18am

Markree and Mullingar both reporting -5c in 0500 reports.

-2.5c atm in Dublin 16.

SeaBreezes · 19-01-2020 7:43am

South Coast frost free.

DOCARCH · 19-01-2020 8:16am

-6c at Mullingar in 0700 reports.

-2.6c atm in Dublin 16.

Goldfinch8 · 19-01-2020 8:21am

Mortelaro wrote: »

Baltinglass Transport infrastructure Ireland site inCo Wicklow currently reporting -5.4c

I see the same site in Baltinglass is now reporting a chilly -6.8c at 6.50am.

Mortelaro · 19-01-2020 9:04am

Goldfinch8 wrote: »

I see the same site in Baltinglass is now reporting a chilly -6.8c at 6.50am.

I see that
Same temp at 740am -6.8c

DOCARCH · 19-01-2020 9:18am

DOCARCH wrote: »

-6c at Mullingar in 0700 reports.

On 0755 forecast on RTE 1, ME said low was -5.7c.

At 0800, Mullingar, Markree, Mount Dillon and Moorepark reporting -5c.

-2.5c in Dublin 16.

pad199207 · 19-01-2020 9:36am

Allenwood Co Kildare this morning

Lucreto · 19-01-2020 9:50am

-4C at the moment. The coldest night since before the snow in 2018. I am going for a pre-breakfast walk to enjoy this weather while it lasts.

Gaoth Laidir · 19-01-2020 10:03am

Just on the pets being left outside, it's not the reported air temperature we should consider but rather the near-ground temperature, as that's where the pet is lying. On clear nights this is several degrees colder again than the air temperature (measured at 1.5 m agl). For example, by 6 am this morning the grass temperature at Oak Park had fallen to -11 °C and at Gurteen -10 °C. The respective minimum air temperatures were -4.1 and -4 0 °C, and they've fallen lower since.

Pressure-wise, Oak Park was the highest at 8 am (1045.1 hPa), with several others on 1044.7.

Danno · 19-01-2020 10:17am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Just on the pets being left outside, it's not the reported air temperature we should consider but rather the near-ground temperature, as that's where the pet is lying. On clear nights this is several degrees colder again than the air temperature (measured at 1.5 m agl). For example, by 6 am this morning the grass temperature at Oak Park had fallen to -11 °C and at Gurteen -10 °C. The respective minimum air temperatures were -4.1 and -4 0 °C, and they've fallen lower since.

Pressure-wise, Oak Park was the highest at 8 am (1045.1 hPa), with several others on 1044.7.

Overnight air minimum here at Durrow was -6.1c. The grass temperature dipped to -8.6c. Pressure currently is 1045.4hPa and rising rapidly.

Gaoth Laidir · 19-01-2020 10:19am

Oak Park 1045.9 hPa at 9 am.

Mortelaro · 19-01-2020 10:36am

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1218829290231431168?s=19

Mortelaro · 19-01-2020 10:41am

1046.1

pad199207 · 19-01-2020 10:54am

Mortelaro wrote: »

1046.1

1046.4mb

pad199207 · 19-01-2020 11:08am

Frost rapidly clearing here now because of cloud cover and breeze

Mortelaro · 19-01-2020 11:16am

mickger844posts wrote: »

Min of -2.8c this morning. Pressure 1046hPa which is a station record. Recording data since October 2010

https://www.waterfordcityweather.com

Despite Waterford being closer to the centre,you're not going to beat Pad's in Naas,which at 100 metres corrected for sea level is already above 1051...
AMAZING

Oneiric 3 · 19-01-2020 11:19am

1044 hPa dead bang here and with a fair southerly breeze.

Really anywhere south from a line between Dublin to Shannon (approx) has a fairly reasonable chance of getting a 1048 reading over the next 24hrs. If this figure is achieved at any point then it will be the highest pressure readings for January since 2000.

Danno · 19-01-2020 11:26am

1046.1hPa and rising fast. Currently -2.2c at Durrow in Laois.

SleetAndSnow · 19-01-2020 11:27am

Cork airport reporting 1045hPa at 10am.

Dry bright morning here in cork city with lots of frost around. Ground and grass is white as are the cars

Oneiric 3 · 19-01-2020 11:30am

Meteogram for SE Wexford showing forecast pressure (GFS). 1048 hPa achievable later on tonight and through the wee hours.

Derekon2009 · 19-01-2020 2:38pm

A shocking mild winter to date for ALL of Europe, not just Ireland. Check out the 10 day forecast for STOCKHOLM......temps 5-8oC with night time temps 2-4oC so a frost won’t even be recorded. That will bring us up to nearly February........just to put some perspective on our winter.......

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esposito · 19-01-2020 5:08pm

Derekon2009 wrote: »

A shocking mild winter to date for ALL of Europe, not just Ireland. Check out the 10 day forecast for STOCKHOLM......temps 5-8oC with night time temps 2-4oC so a frost won’t even be recorded. That will bring us up to nearly February........just to put some perspective on our winter.......

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It’s bad alright and things have to start changing soon. Having said that, we got our last BFTE the last two days of Feb 2018 so there is still plenty of time. Central and Eastern Europe often go into the freezer in February.
With a bit of luck we might get close to the freezer but will probably have to settle for the fridge which still might be enough for some snow to lower levels.

Oneiric 3 · 19-01-2020 6:21pm

Surreal pinky orange twilight luminescence here at the mo. Almost as if the light is coming up from the earth itself.

Derekon2009 · 19-01-2020 6:29pm

esposito wrote: »

It’s bad alright and things have to start changing soon. Having said that, we got our last BFTE the last two days of Feb 2018 so there is still plenty of time. Central and Eastern Europe often go into the freezer in February.
With a bit of luck we might get close to the freezer but will probably have to settle for the fridge which still might be enough for some snow to lower levels.

Agreed! Still plenty of time I think and the weather can change rather quickly, we just need a wee bit of luck.......

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rooney30 · 19-01-2020 6:33pm

Popping in and out of here the last few weeks ,it’s car crash stuff for the cold lovers, especially the f1 thread . Is it too early to start the summer 2020 thread ?

Gonzo · 19-01-2020 6:38pm

rooney30 wrote: »

Popping in and out of here the last few weeks ,it’s car crash stuff for the cold lovers, especially the f1 thread . Is it too early to start the summer 2020 thread ?

I thought last winter was bad for cold weather and snow but this winter takes the biscuit. Last year we were constantly teased with charts that never delivered and a SSW which failed to have any effects for us. This winter there has been absolutely nothing except the odd cold pub run which is completely mild by the following morning. There is still hope for February but right now we still don't have a single ingredient on our side.

Goldfinch8 · 19-01-2020 6:44pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Surreal pinky orange twilight luminescence here at the mo. Almost as if the light is coming up from the earth itself.

A little hint of that light in the sky here this eve but probably not as much as what you have. We got a bit more cloud as the day went on and that southerly breeze that you alluded to earlier certainly added a bit of windchill to proceedings today. Still a nice day if out and about and wrapped up. We did however get a lovely dawn and sunrise here in Mayo this morning. This followed a glorious evening sky yesterday.

Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

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