When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

Baggly · 07-04-2019 7:10pm

Mod

All. Let's remember to attack the post, not the poster. Cards will be handed out if you can't remember this. Thanks.

EmmetSpiceland · 07-04-2019 7:20pm

Dr Brown wrote: »

The folks in American Renaissance do not call themselves "White Supremacists".

A rose by any other name...

Dr Brown · 07-04-2019 7:28pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A rose by any other name...

They may call the themselves "White Nationalists" but certainly not "White Supremacists".

The only person I'm aware of who calls himself a "White Supremacist" is Tom Metzger.

Ipso · 07-04-2019 7:32pm

Of course with these people, not all white people are equal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891_New_Orleans_lynchings
Us papists should be grateful they have another religion to focus in now.

TheRepentent · 07-04-2019 7:33pm

super_furry wrote: »

You don't call yourself a racist. Doesn't change the fact that you are.

if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck......

pjohnson · 07-04-2019 7:36pm

TheRepentent wrote: »

if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck......

The mass media wants you think its a duck but thats just corruption its actually a mongoose.

Ash.J.Williams · 07-04-2019 7:37pm

ever feel like you're surrounded by g0bsh1tes? on one hand there are absolute g0bsh1tes screwing up the world, and on the other hand, there are even more g0bsh1tes pointing it out wrong.....

Odhinn · 07-04-2019 7:47pm

Dr Brown wrote: »

A "White Nationalist" is not the same thing as a "White Supremacist".

The folks in American Renaissance do not call themselves "White Supremacists".

Doesn't matter what they call themselves, the fact is they are white supremacists, racists and all that.

Do you think there should be a law barring interracial relationships?

Dr_serious2 · 07-04-2019 8:04pm

Pter wrote: »

Mod

All. Let's remember to attack the post, not the poster. Cards will be handed out if you can't remember this. Thanks.

Even certain mods throw around the racist tag quite freely.

07-04-2019 8:42pm

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Even certain mods throw around the racist tag quite freely.

Normally get this complaint & the reverse when an argument isn't going the way one side wants. If the mod in question isn't a mod for AH their just a normal poster in AH.

Atoms for Peace · 07-04-2019 8:44pm

pjohnson wrote: »

The mass media wants you think its a duck but thats just corruption its actually a mongoose.

But it's cool for Tom green to hump a dead moose.

Snickers Man · 07-04-2019 8:58pm

Anyway, back to Gemma.

Why is anyone worried about this batshyt crazy loony tunes? Her mass protest against RTE yesterday summoned up about 30 people. The turnout was so embarrassing that she has taken down her footage of it.

She rambles on and on about patriotism and "standing up to elites" but then her analysis of what's wrong (such as it is) meanders along topics like "mass immigraton" "anti vaxxing" George Soros and the fact that a bunch of chancers wou didn't pay their mortgage for about 12 years got turfed out of their house.

The woman is as daft as a brush.

And most people seem to think so.

humberklog · 07-04-2019 9:01pm

What if Gemma has devined her inner journalistic qualities and decided to deep dive into what drives fringe wing politics and could she muster support from idiots with a voting card?

In a few months time will she appear on the Late Late with Ryan going- "Phew, that was weird, i spouted the most devisive nonsensical guff i could find on the internet, mixed it with nutty maths, totally contradicted my allegiances and attempted to label everyone in ireland a traitor. It waa gas. And marginally successful.

Odhinn · 07-04-2019 9:04pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

Anyway, back to Gemma.

Why is anyone worried about this batshyt crazy loony tunes? Her mass protest against RTE yesterday summoned up about 30 people. The turnout was so embarrassing that she has taken down her footage of it.

She rambles on and on about patriotism and "standing up to elites" but then her analysis of what's wrong (such as it is) meanders along topics like "mass immigraton" "anti vaxxing" George Soros and the fact that a bunch of chancers wou didn't pay their mortgage for about 12 years got turfed out of their house.

The woman is as daft as a brush.

And most people seem to think so.

It's not so much "worry" as a certain curiosity as to why a seemingly rational person went down the rabbit hole so quickly.

Skylinehead · 07-04-2019 9:09pm

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Even certain mods throw around the racist tag quite freely.

Apparently some users think they're mods. Stop.

TheRepentent · 07-04-2019 9:09pm

humberklog wrote: »

What if Gemma has devined her inner journalistic qualities and decided to deep dive into what drives fringe wing politics and could she muster support from idiots with a voting card?

In a few months time will she appear on the Late Late with Ryan going- "Phew, that was weird, i spouted the most devisive nonsensical guff i could find on the internet, mixed it with nutty maths, totally contradicted my allegiances and attempted to label everyone in ireland a traitor. It waa gas. And marginally successful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

07-04-2019 9:16pm

Odhinn wrote: »

It's not so much "worry" as a certain curiosity as to why a seemingly rational person went down the rabbit hole so quickly.

She's had some bad experiences in her life and mental health is not something that is easily explained.

The rambling etc reminded me of when a close friend was being treated for severe depression but hers are a lot worse.

Odhinn · 07-04-2019 9:42pm

DubInMeath wrote: »

She's had some bad experiences in her life and mental health is not something that is easily explained.

The rambling etc reminded me of when a close friend was being treated for severe depression but hers are a lot worse.

I've always had the notion that her experiences with one Martin Callinan are responsible for it, but of course I've no evidence to back that.

Larbre34 · 07-04-2019 11:19pm

DubInMeath wrote: »

She's had some bad experiences in her life and mental health is not something that is easily explained.

The rambling etc reminded me of when a close friend was being treated for severe depression but hers are a lot worse.

She has. And I get what you mean about seeing it on occasion in other people. However I've yet to see a person with severe depression be so functional and organised.

I reckon she has a paranoid personality disorder with a side of schizoid-narcissism and she needs psychiatric help for it.

I would also be concerned for people vulnerable to such things that she may be influencing online and who be adversely affected by her.

08-04-2019 12:11am

Larbre34 wrote: »

She has. And I get what you mean about seeing it on occasion in other people. However I've yet to see a person with severe depression be so functional and organised.

I reckon she has a paranoid personality disorder with a side of schizoid-narcissism and she needs psychiatric help for it.

I would also be concerned for people vulnerable to such things that she may be influencing online and who be adversely affected by her.

In the case with my friend the ramblings as I put it came out when they drank heavily while on the medication to treat their depression and usually took the form of how none of us understood or supported him, only he knew what was best in relation to xy and z etc.

In terms of vulnerable people being affected by her, that's a possibility of course but not all her supporters are in any way vulnerable in terms of mental health in the traditional sense.

Larbre34 · 08-04-2019 1:53am

DubInMeath wrote: »

In terms of vulnerable people being affected by her, that's a possibility of course but not all her supporters are in any way vulnerable in terms of mental health in the traditional sense.

No of course, many of them are just right-wing racist a55holes with a grudge against they don't know who.

rgossip30 · 08-04-2019 6:59am

Larbre34 wrote: »

She has. And I get what you mean about seeing it on occasion in other people. However I've yet to see a person with severe depression be so functional and organised.

I reckon she has a paranoid personality disorder with a side of schizoid-narcissism and she needs psychiatric help for it.

I would also be concerned for people vulnerable to such things that she may be influencing online and who be adversely affected by her.

My head is spinning with all the Physiatry experts here .

circadian · 08-04-2019 7:19am

Larbre34 wrote: »

No of course, many of them are just right-wing racist a55holes with a grudge against they don't know who.

It's false consciousness. Some people have bought wholesale into the outrage against anything which usually ends up being anger directed at their own social class for not being on board.

See Tucker Carlson, he's extremely effective at pushing this.

AndrewJRenko · 08-04-2019 7:28am

rgossip30 wrote: »

The murders hve reduced because many have fled.

Don't think so, population has been steadily growing

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/south-africa-population/

Billcarson · 08-04-2019 8:07am

rgossip30 wrote: »

Larbre34 wrote: »

She has. And I get what you mean about seeing it on occasion in other people. However I've yet to see a person with severe depression be so functional and organised.

I reckon she has a paranoid personality disorder with a side of schizoid-narcissism and she needs psychiatric help for it.

I would also be concerned for people vulnerable to such things that she may be influencing online and who be adversely affected by her.

My head is spinning with all the Physiatry experts here .

I support gemma generally speaking anyway,so according to the experts on here that means I'm some sort of a racist lunatic. Lol. Did you ever hear such sh*t. Lol

Timberrrrrrrr · 08-04-2019 8:19am

Billcarson wrote: »

I support gemma generally speaking anyway,so according to the experts on here that means I'm some sort of a racist lunatic. Lol. Did you ever hear such sh*t. Lol

Supporting Gemma wouldn't make you this, supporting some of her policies certainly would though.

h2005 · 08-04-2019 9:55am

Billcarson wrote: »

I support gemma generally speaking anyway,so according to the experts on here that means I'm some sort of a racist lunatic. Lol. Did you ever hear such sh*t. Lol

What do you support her on?

Grayson · 08-04-2019 11:07am

DubInMeath wrote: »

She's had some bad experiences in her life and mental health is not something that is easily explained.

The rambling etc reminded me of when a close friend was being treated for severe depression but hers are a lot worse.

It's probably related to that but it doesn't mean that she's mentally ill. Take David Icke. He spouts complete nonsense but is by most metrics a mentally healthy individual.

I don't know if any of us are really able to say what causes her to hold the ideas she holds but since it happened about the same time ass a personal trauma we can say the two are probably related.

Billcarson · 08-04-2019 1:29pm

h2005 wrote: »

Billcarson wrote: »

I support gemma generally speaking anyway,so according to the experts on here that means I'm some sort of a racist lunatic. Lol. Did you ever hear such sh*t. Lol

What do you support her on?

Tackling corruption mainly. As for mass migration I would have concerns about it but that didn't mean I'm against migration entirely or anything like that . A small number of my own ancestors were migrants . 5 g i am concerned about but in time I think that will probably be nothing to be worried about at all, time will tell. But nothing wrong imo in raising questions about it.
I don't really agree with anti vax stuff although I don't have a problem raising issues of possible side effects but not to the point of putting people off. Its about trying to make these things as safe as possible . I think that where she is coming from on that issue.
I think she thinks climate change is a hoax i certainly don't agree with that .

sydthebeat · 08-04-2019 1:32pm

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly.

can you find anyone who is not against tackling corruption please?

TaurenDruid · 08-04-2019 1:35pm

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly. As for mass migration I would have concerns about it but that didn't mean I'm against migration entirely or anything like that . A small number of my own ancestors were migrants . 5 g i am concerned about but in time I think that will probably be nothing to be worried about at all, time will tell. But nothing wrong imo in raising questions about it.
I don't really agree with anti vax stuff although I don't have a problem raising issues of possible side effects but not to the point of putting people off. Its about trying to make these things as safe as possible . I think that where she is coming from on that issue.
I think she thinks climate change is a hoax i certainly don't agree with that .

So... you're pretty much just against corruption, then? So are the vast majority of people (or at least they claim to be, while still voting for the same politicians, something I just don't get...)

I digress, though.

The problem is GO'D is now pointing at everything she doesn't like and shouting "Corruption! Cultural Marxist George Soros funded conspiracy!" and the bigger problem with that is it's leading to a racist far-right rabbithole where direct provision centres get set on fire.

The Nal · 08-04-2019 1:38pm

Shes anti immigration but then (correctly) thinks more houses should be built.

By who?!

Billcarson · 08-04-2019 3:08pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly.

can you find anyone who is not against tackling corruption please?

Well personally I think that's what she should stick to anyway. Getting involved in too many other matters will go against her and judging by this thread is turning people against her. The irony is that perhaps she has become her own worst enemy?

Larbre34 · 08-04-2019 3:13pm

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly. As for mass migration I would have concerns about it but that didn't mean I'm against migration entirely or anything like that . A small number of my own ancestors were migrants . 5 g i am concerned about but in time I think that will probably be nothing to be worried about at all, time will tell. But nothing wrong imo in raising questions about it.
I don't really agree with anti vax stuff although I don't have a problem raising issues of possible side effects but not to the point of putting people off. Its about trying to make these things as safe as possible . I think that where she is coming from on that issue.
I think she thinks climate change is a hoax i certainly don't agree with that .

Your concerns sound perfectly reasonable and so does your weighing them up in your own mind.

I've yet to see Gemma express herself in such terms. With her its 'im right, youre wrong, and whats more youre complicit with a left wing conspiracy and/or an agent of the deep state. And if you say a word against me ill sue you for defamation'

Its just the ravings of an ill woman.

OneEightSeven · 08-04-2019 3:24pm

The Nal wrote: »

Shes anti immigration but then (correctly) thinks more houses should be built.

By who?!

By ourselves?

Boggles · 08-04-2019 3:36pm

OneEightSeven wrote: »

By ourselves?

We don't have the numbers to meet the proposed demand.

And even when we did have far higher numbers we relied on inward migration heavily for the construction industry.

Apprenticeships are down about 80-90% since the boom.

The Nal · 08-04-2019 3:46pm

OneEightSeven wrote: »

By ourselves?

Who though? Try get a builder to do a small job these days. A nightmare in availability and cost. Never mind finding supply to build 35000 homes a year.

The Irish construction workers live in Australia and Canada and earn megabucks. 100,000 people left for Australia alone. An average of 27 people a day - every day, for 10 years.

Employment sponsored visas in order of volume in Australia: carpenters, joiners, engineers, project administrators, electricians, plumbers, architects and motor mechanics. All left Ireland.

Apprenticeships have fallen from 27,000 during the last housing boom to a current level of 3,000.

We simply don't have the people to do the work. Nowhere near. With 60% of Irish school leavers heading for 3rd level, we won't have them in the future either.

This is where these "do it ourselves" Brexit type conversations fall down. When you actually bother to read the numbers.

The housing during the Tiger was built largely by Polish and Lithuanian lads. We need those big evil foreigners back. Coming over here, building our homes.

Annasopra · 08-04-2019 3:48pm

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly. As for mass migration I would have concerns about it but that didn't mean I'm against migration entirely or anything like that . A small number of my own ancestors were migrants . 5 g i am concerned about but in time I think that will probably be nothing to be worried about at all, time will tell. But nothing wrong imo in raising questions about it.
I don't really agree with anti vax stuff although I don't have a problem raising issues of possible side effects but not to the point of putting people off. Its about trying to make these things as safe as possible . I think that where she is coming from on that issue.
I think she thinks climate change is a hoax i certainly don't agree with that .

What has she done about corruption?

Annasopra · 08-04-2019 3:50pm

OneEightSeven wrote: »

By ourselves?

That makes no sense. Its just not possible.

The Nal · 08-04-2019 4:30pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

What has she done about corruption?

She shouted at some Gardai and called news presenters who wear make up "tarts" on a live stream in front of 20 people and some children.

Think thats about it since she turned to GO'D.

In a previous incarnation she exposed a penalty points scandal in the Gardai and exposed a fiddler, which was good, but that was long long ago. Well before her brain turned to bubbling ooze.

humberklog · 08-04-2019 9:18pm

The Nal wrote: »

She shouted at some Gardai and called news presenters who wear make up "tarts" on a live stream in front of 20 people and some children.

Think thats about it since she turned to GO'D.

In a previous incarnation she exposed a penalty points scandal in the Gardai and exposed a fiddler, which was good, but that was long long ago. Well before her brain turned to bubbling ooze.

Not to be pedantic but she didn't expose the penalty point scandal. The scandal was revealed via the whistleblower cases and other journalists were on that story before Gemma. Gemma (amongst others) were following up on the story and the extent to which the points were being quashed. This lead her to doorstepping Commissioner Callaghan.

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2019 10:15pm

humberklog wrote: »

Not to be pedantic but she didn't expose the penalty point scandal. The scandal was revealed via the whistleblower cases and other journalists were on that story before Gemma. Gemma (amongst others) were following up on the story and the extent to which the points were being quashed. This lead her to doorstepping Commissioner Callaghan.

If memory serves me right, wasn't it Commissioner Callanans wife that she doorstepped?

humberklog · 08-04-2019 10:19pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

If memory serves me right, wasn't it Commissioner Callanans wife that she doorstepped?

I believe so.

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2019 10:22pm

humberklog wrote: »

I believe so.

Yep

He said without informing her editor, Ms O’Doherty had “decided to show up” at the home of Mr Callinan at 10pm on April 11th, 2013. He was away and his wife answered the door and was “somewhat upset”, Mr Kennedy said, as was Mr Callinan when he heard of the incident.

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2019 10:25pm

Also for anyone who missed this article during her ill-fated presidential nomination run, it's a brilliant takedown of her so-called 'investigative journalism"

https://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2018/0908/opinion/in-truth-what-has-gemma-oaposdoherty-exposed-473234.html

lbc2019 · 09-04-2019 2:20am

https://twitter.com/dumbartonone/status/1115377461041274881?s=21

rgossip30 · 09-04-2019 3:59am

https://gemmaodoherty.com/awards/. Despite the criticism GoD has won 7awards over the years for journalism .

gman2k · 09-04-2019 7:18am

rgossip30 wrote:

. Despite the criticism GoD has won 7awards over the years for journalism .

Yes, one of her awards was from GSK (Big Pharma) for an article on Cancer research. She doesn't say that on her self penned bio.

Now she is saying that we are being flouridated because the One World Order wants to reduce the world's population by 6 billion and that we should close the Irish airspace to stop planes flying overhead because they are "doing illegal things" ( chemtrail poisoning us).

So you see, it doesn't matter what she has achieved in the past, it's now is what is relevant.

sydthebeat · 09-04-2019 7:30am

rgossip30 wrote: »

https://gemmaodoherty.com/awards/. Despite the criticism GoD has won 7awards over the years for journalism .

Which makes her descent into this madness all the more sad.

Annasopra · 09-04-2019 8:08am

rgossip30 wrote: »

https://gemmaodoherty.com/awards/. Despite the criticism GoD has won 7awards over the years for journalism .

Hilarious how she hides one of her awards was sponsored by Glaxo Smithkline the BIG PHARMA company.

She wouldnt win anything nowadays her videos are so littered with fake and false news.

When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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