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The Great Reset

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    What kind a global discussion forum is preceded by warnings of never going back to normal, threats of monumental changes, a push for radically changing the current economic system, climate lockdowns being floated, a push for digital currencies, and a whole book on the theme of the event?

    It isn't preceded by any of that stuff. You are just falling for the conspiracy disinfo about the event.


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    Fodla wrote: »
    For me, the Great Reset is pretty straightforward:

    The response to a virus with a 99.8% survival rate is to, to paraphrase Schwab, revamp every aspect of our societies, introduce a new economic system, monumental changes, and to never go back to normal.

    If people consider that a proportionate response then so be it. I don't. That's it in a nutshell really.

    Weird, you've ignored multiple responses that have addressed loads of your claims...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ng_eso/status/1331630079257038849

    Electricity shortages. What a surprise. Food shortages next.

    It's winter, many people are working from home, electricity consumption is higher.

    Once again, you seem to view everything through a terrified paranoid prism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ng_eso/status/1331630079257038849

    Electricity shortages. What a surprise. Food shortages next.

    I guess electricity shortages are just another coincidence to add to the long list. Build back better Biden (or is that Trudeau? Or Johnson? Or whomever else just happens to be saying it this week) did warn of a dark winter. Come to think of it, so did Johnson, Sanchéz in Spain, and Merkel. All the same words. Another coincidence.
    Now you're just deflecting and using this forum to spam and link dump stuff.

    You haven't read the book. That much is clear.

    Why should anyone take you claims seriously when you're too lazy to do the most basic research?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Fodla wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ng_eso/status/1331630079257038849

    Electricity shortages. What a surprise. Food shortages next.

    I guess electricity shortages are just another coincidence to add to the long list. Build back better Biden (or is that Trudeau? Or Johnson? Or whomever else just happens to be saying it this week) did warn of a dark winter. Come to think of it, so did Johnson, Sanchéz in Spain, and Merkel. All the same words. Another coincidence.

    If you actually read those tweets it does't mention a single word about electricity shortages. That's just your rampant conspiracy brain running away with itself again. The tweet mentions they are going to increase the buffer due to higher demand. That's it. It must be awful for you to be constantly living in fear of things you just make up in your head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Fodla wrote: »
    For me, the Great Reset is pretty straightforward:

    The response to a virus with a 99.8% survival rate is to, to paraphrase Schwab, revamp every aspect of our societies, introduce a new economic system, monumental changes, and to never go back to normal.

    If people consider that a proportionate response then so be it. I don't. That's it in a nutshell really.

    You're just making this all up in your head. Like you made up the part about the UN Agenda 2030 is about eliminating private property ownership and that property will be confiscated off of every human on the planet in the next 10 years. You've already been shown that the Agenda 2030 actually says the exact opposite of your claims but you've ignored that. From the Agenda 2030 document itself Page 19:

    By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance, natural resources, appropriate new technology and financial services, including microfinance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    You're just making this all up in your head. Like you made up the part about the UN Agenda 2030 is about eliminating private property ownership and that property will be confiscated off of every human on the plant in the next 10 years. You've already been shown that the Agenda 2030 actually says the exact opposite of your claims but you've ignored that. From the Agenda 2030 document itself:

    By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance, natural resources, appropriate new technology and financial services, including microfinance.

    I'll respond to your post about Agenda 21 later. Sorry, I forgot to reply.

    But if you get a chance then watch 'Agenda 21 for Dummies' (I sent you a link). I found it to be very informative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    I'll respond to your post about Agenda 21 later. Sorry, I forgot to reply.
    No, you didn't "forget to reply" you ignored the question.
    You have dodged a long list of questions you can't address honestly.
    You did this many times then tried to play innocent before as well.

    It's very silly and makes you seem very childish.

    An honest thing to do would be to just answer the questions directly or admit you can't answer them.
    But you and conspiracy theorists aren't very honest people...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Fodla wrote: »
    I'll respond to your post about Agenda 21 later. Sorry, I forgot to reply.

    But if you get a chance then watch 'Agenda 21 for Dummies' (I sent you a link). I found it to be very informative.

    I'd rather read the source document and make my own judgement than watch a conspiracy video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I'd rather read the source document and make my own judgement than watch a conspiracy video.

    But it's not sufficient to just read the source document, in my opinion. It's very complicated and extensive. But fair enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Fodla wrote: »
    But it's not sufficient to just read the source document, in my opinion. It's very complicated and extensive. But fair enough.

    Well watching conspiracy oriented videos is only going to give you the conspiracy angle to the exclusion of reason and logic. I know exactly what to expect from a conspiracy video as they are all the same - wild accusations unsupported by evidence or proof, lies, misrepresentations and good old fashioned references to "them" and "elites" - rinse and repeat. Why do you keep referring to conspiracy videos all the time? My guess is that you are not really interested in the reasoned or logical approach but are very attracted to the conspiracy theory angle.

    Also could you address the point about Agenda 2030 which you claimed is about the UN stripping every human on the planet of private ownership rights by 2030 when the document itself says the exact opposite??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    But it's not sufficient to just read the source document, in my opinion. It's very complicated and extensive. But fair enough.
    And now it's pretty obvious you have not read the source document either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracytheories/comments/jy7lcw/greek_prime_minister_got_the_great_reset_book_on/

    https://caldronpool.com/covid-19-the-great-reset-spotted-in-australian-health-ministers-bookcase/

    They both just happening to be reading Schwab's book, just like they all just happen to be using the same slogan of 'build back better'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    They both just happening to be reading Schwab's book.
    Why haven't you read the book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why haven't you read the book?

    He read a review on Amazon and cherry picked alleged quotes from the book. Come on, what more do you want???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He read a review on Amazon and cherry picked alleged quotes from the book. Come on, what more do you want???

    I haven't read it, but if you're looking for a review than you can ask the Prime Minister of Greece and the Australian Health Minister for one. They both just happen to have the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Fodla wrote: »
    I haven't read it, but if you're looking for a review than you can ask the Prime Minister of Greece and the Australian Health Minister for one. They both just happen to have the book.

    So what. Are politicians not allowed have particular books? Do you wish to censor people from reading certain books that you don't like? By the way you still haven't responded to the Agenda 2030 point where you claimed it is about the UN stripping every human on the planet of private ownership rights by 2030 when the document itself says the exact opposite??


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Approved User Assesment


    What's all the talk about books and documents to read, isn't there some website from the WEF crowd themselves that outlines the Great Reset in simple short sharp snippets, without trekking off to a local library or black fridaying in some tree chopped down books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    What's all the talk about books and documents to read, isn't there some website from the WEF crowd themselves that outlines the Great Reset in simple short sharp snippets, without trekking off to a local library or black fridaying in some tree chopped down books.

    Yes, but paranoid and deluded people can interpret things completely differently

    An example was given earlier where the author mentioned "global surveillance" and one of the readers immediately assumed it was some form of nefarious worldwide global surveillance of civilians, etc. It wasn't, it was a reference to surveillance of the virus.

    Some people are unable to process information properly. And there's a market for that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yes, but paranoid and deluded people can interpret things completely differently

    An example was given earlier where the author mentioned "global surveillance" and one of the readers immediately assumed it was some form of nefarious worldwide global surveillance of civilians, etc. It wasn't, it was a reference to surveillance of the virus.

    Some people are unable to process information properly. And there's a market for that.

    But don't you find it odd that they'd be reading your man's book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    But don't you find it odd that they'd be reading your man's book?

    I suspect most of them wouldn't, they'd be happy with one or two conspiracy style reviews on Amazon or wherever. Sometimes the entire conspiracy community fixates on something, at the moment, it's this global summit and related material. Once it's over they'll switch to something else, rinse, repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Fodla wrote: »
    But don't you find it odd that they'd be reading your man's book?

    I find it more odd that you are obsessed about it & haven't read it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fodla wrote: »
    I haven't read it, but if you're looking for a review than you can ask the Prime Minister of Greece and the Australian Health Minister for one. They both just happen to have the book.
    Fodla wrote: »
    But don't you find it odd that they'd be reading your man's book?

    A highly respected economist being read by global dignitaries isn't exactly odd. It also seems pretty well written which is something you rarely get with this type of writing so that's appealing too. I imagine most have them have also read Karl Marx at some point or another too, that doesn't mean they're Marxists. Just that they're well read in areas relevant to them.

    Also you seem to be ignoring posts that completely destroy the credibility of your arguments...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fodla wrote: »
    But don't you find it odd that they'd be reading your man's book?

    Do you only read fiction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    I haven't read it,

    Why haven't you read it though?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1332071694450700306

    Didn't people say I was crazy for suggesting that WEF wanted to do away with private property? Seems Canada is already setting the wheels in motion.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fodla wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1332071694450700306

    Didn't people say I was crazy for suggesting that WEF wanted to do away with private property? Seems Canada is already setting the wheels in motion.

    Are you referring to the Canadian government keeping large companies afloat with unsecured loans? Seems reasonable to me tbh... We did similar when keeping our banks afloat. Can you explain why you're not addressing the many points against your claims?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/trudeau-opens-door-to-buying-stakes-in-large-canadian-companies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Are you referring to the Canadian government keeping large companies afloat with unsecured loans? Seems reasonable to me tbh... We did similar when keeping our banks afloat. Can you explain why you're not addressing the many points against your claims?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/trudeau-opens-door-to-buying-stakes-in-large-canadian-companies

    I was basing the private property thing on the comments on the tweet. Not the best approach to research, I admit.

    Are you talking about Agenda 21? I have do a bit more research, but I'll address the claims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 feedmindc19


    Fodla wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/1332071694450700306

    Didn't people say I was crazy for suggesting that WEF wanted to do away with private property? Seems Canada is already setting the wheels in motion.

    BG has predicted pandemic number 2, so has schwab ,now this guy
    WEF Managing Director Jeremy Jurgens:

    "There will be another crisis. It will be more significant. Faster, and greater impact than COVID-19." All have crystal balls it would seem.

    Funny also I go into different countries chat forums like this and citizens of these countries have the exact same fears about their countries governments and what is going as we have eg Denmark,Sweden, Uk ,USA. Seems suspicious to me.


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    Fodla wrote: »
    I was basing the private property thing on the comments on the tweet. Not the best approach to research, I admit.

    Are you talking about Agenda 21? I have do a bit more research, but I'll address the claims.

    I'm referring to keeping failing businesses afloat. Tweets are not research. I can refer you to many tweets that believe nonsense...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    BG has predicted another pandemic in feb2021, so has schaub now this guy
    WEF Managing Director Jeremy Jurgens:

    "There will be another crisis. It will be more significant. Faster, and greater impact than COVID-19." All have crystal balls it would seem.

    Funny also I go into different countries chat forums like this and citizens of these countries have the exact same fears about their countries governments and what is going as we have eg Denmark,Sweden, Uk ,USA. Seems suspicious to me.

    When did Gates predict there'd be another one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    I have do a bit more research

    Don't use conspiracy sites. If that's uncharted territory for you, start off with wikipedia or proper news sites for your info. Pretty anything else you find will be conspiracy stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 feedmindc19


    Fodla wrote: »
    When did Gates predict there'd be another one?

    https://en.as.com/en/2020/11/24/latest_news/1606228590_532670.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    I was basing the private property thing on the comments on the tweet. Not the best approach to research, I admit.

    Are you talking about Agenda 21? I have do a bit more research, but I'll address the claims.
    Is this research going to include reading the book?
    Or just reading more twitter and ignore stuff that disproves your conspiracy beliefs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla



    Thanks.

    I wonder is that the one he said would get people's attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELP2EFVOOYc


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    King Mob wrote: »
    Is this research going to include reading the book?
    Or just reading more twitter and ignore stuff that disproves your conspiracy beliefs?

    I don't think he's planning to acknowledge our posts unless we agree with him..


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The only other book I've ever seen people so into without bothering to read it is the Bible. Imagine hanging out in the Lord of the Rings forums all day if you had never read or seen it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I don't think he's planning to acknowledge our posts unless we agree with him..
    So pretty much the same, just without the effort of pretending to engage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 feedmindc19


    Fodla wrote: »
    Thanks.

    I wonder is that the one he said would get people's attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELP2EFVOOYc

    Probably All we can do is watch and wait and be called ct's. Some people just don't seem to care or are not informing themselves, this came out this morning nobody bats an eyelid https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

    Most my friends on fb seem to be more obsessed about the toy show and their matching pjs , :(

    Stole this from Twitter:

    Watch.
    Let's see what the 'public' do next with the knowledge that lockdowns don't work.

    Watch.
    Let's see how these creatures react as loved ones die through denial of healthcare.

    Watch.
    As they learn masks don't work.

    Watch.
    As their freedom disappears.

    Let's watch......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Probably All we can do is watch and wait and be called ct's. Some people just don't seem to care or are not informing themselves,
    Have you read the book?

    Cause so far no conspiracy theorist who is afraid of this thing seems to have read it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Most my friends on fb seem to be more obsessed about the toy show and their matching pjs , :(

    Thats called "living".
    Stole this from Twitter:

    Watch.
    Let's see what the 'public' do next with the knowledge that lockdowns don't work.

    Watch.
    Let's see how these creatures react as loved ones die through denial of healthcare.

    Watch.
    As they learn masks don't work.

    Watch.
    As their freedom disappears.

    Let's watch......

    Sounds like you need to stay off Twitter. And Facebook. They're both poison.

    Fear and paranoia off the hook here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Probably All we can do is watch and wait and be called ct's. Some people just don't seem to care or are not informing themselves, this came out this morning nobody bats an eyelid https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

    Most my friends on fb seem to be more obsessed about the toy show and their matching pjs , :(

    Stole this from Twitter:

    Watch.
    Let's see what the 'public' do next with the knowledge that lockdowns don't work.

    Watch.
    Let's see how these creatures react as loved ones die through denial of healthcare.

    Watch.
    As they learn masks don't work.

    Watch.
    As their freedom disappears.

    Let's watch......

    97% unreliable? That's astonishing. It exposes that test for the absolute fraud that it is. And yet people still think this is about a virus. Schwab can come out and declare he's going to reset the planet and they dismiss it as nothing to worry about.

    Our freedom is a thing of the past. The government interferes in every aspect of our lives. We had a raging 1 and 2 case a day pandemic in the summer. Is that a pandemic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    The Nal wrote: »
    Thats called "living".



    Sounds like you need to stay off Twitter. And Facebook. They're both poison.

    Fear and paranoia off the hook here.

    They may be poison, but they determine government action (or inaction), sadly. That's why I believe this to be a social media pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    The only other book I've ever seen people so into without bothering to read it is the Bible. Imagine hanging out in the Lord of the Rings forums all day if you had never read or seen it.

    Why is it necessary to read his book? His statements alone tell me everything I need to know about his reset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    97% unreliable? That's astonishing.

    Apparently you swallow conspiracy disinfo without question, then you doubt real info. That's the crux of the problem here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Fodla wrote: »
    Why is it necessary to read his book? His statements alone tell me everything I need to know about his reset.

    The statements you repeatedly misunderstand? e.g. global surveillance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Watch.
    Let's see what the 'public' do next with the knowledge that lockdowns don't work.

    Watch.
    Let's see how these creatures react as loved ones die through denial of healthcare.

    Watch.
    As they learn masks don't work.

    Watch.
    As their freedom disappears.

    Let's watch......

    Pure ignorance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The only other book I've ever seen people so into without bothering to read it is the Bible. Imagine hanging out in the Lord of the Rings forums all day if you had never read or seen it.

    I have seen it!!! Multiple, multiple times!

    How dare you!

    Xtravision always had a copy in my eyeline and the library is stuffed full of the book!
    And I saw all the covers!!!! ;)
    And I've read lots of reviews too, multiple sources! Many, many sources!

    So I'm basing my opinion that they should have just taken the eagle to Mordor and that the quest was a conspiracy on many sources!
    You read the book?
    Pfft!
    That's just a single source, Tolkien was clearly in on it with Elves and Big Lembas bread!
    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Fodla wrote: »
    Why is it necessary to read his book?
    Lol
    That's pretty telling right there.

    Why not read his book?
    Why not get more information about the evil plot you believe in?
    Maybe then you'd have more evidence than "they posted this link on twitter."

    I think you haven't read it because you are too lazy to anything beyond read twitter and watch conspiracy youtube videos


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