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Baldur's Gate III

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    #32
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What is it then?

    Div 2 sorry, it's a fully 3d rendered game that so happens to be played top down :)


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Div 2 sorry, it's a fully 3d rendered game that so happens to be played top down :)

    Ah right. I thought you were saying it wasn't an rpg


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    #34
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Worth noting that Div 2 uses a different combat system with action points, it's not like BG in that regard at all. I tried it, wanted to like it but couldn't get past the combat at all.

    @Partyjungle I've never played played BG1 but BG2 is immensely playable today. There's something completely timeless imo with iso rpgs of that style.


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    #35
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


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    I never played any of the BG's. Does they hold up today?

    Uhh, it depends on your tolerance for ageing graphics/UI. The story, characters, and voice acting will be as good as ever, but it looks and feels old. Some of the effects are actually pretty good, and the sound design is good, but the UI really shows its age - even the remastered version.The problem isn't the isometric view; take a look at Pillars of Eternity and you'll see a modern isometric game that looks great. And the 2nd Edition DnD rules are kind of weird and counter-intuitive, and have all sorts of silliness, but damn if levelling up and getting new spells isn't great fun.

    Personally I don't think BG1 is a very good game, but BG2 is fantastic if you can get past its obvious age.


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    #36
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Yeah, even as a massive fanboy, BG1 can be tough to get into. Low level characters are pretty ****e, so it's not particularly interesting for a while. BG2 starts off way better though, and goes from strength to strength.


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    #37
    YouSavedMyLife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games


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    #38
    Niska
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Niska


    YouSavedMyLife wrote: »
    Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games

    Not mutually exclusive...

    Name: Zombie
    Type: Undead
    Treasure: Nil
    Alignment: Neutral
    No. Appearing: 3-24
    Armor Class: 8
    Movement: 6
    Hit Dice: 2
    THAC0: 19
    No. of Attacks: 1
    Damage/Attack: 1-8
    Special Attacks: Nil
    Size: M (6')
    Morale: Special
    XP Value: 65


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    #39
    Kiith
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    It's mad, I've lost count of the amount of times i've played through both BG games, and i still have no ****ing idea what THACO means. I just always went with higher = better.


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    #40
    Niska
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Niska


    Kiith wrote: »
    It's mad, I've lost count of the amount of times i've played through both BG games, and i still have no ****ing idea what THACO means. I just always went with higher = better.

    To Hit AC 0 (Zero).

    Roll a d20 and subtract the result from your THACO gives the AC you hit. Any AC equal or higher is hit. It is very unintuitive...

    So above zombie rolls a 15, 19 - 15 = 4 so hits AC 4.

    So someone in chainmail (AC 5, assuming no Dex bonus, nor shield, nor magic etc)) would be hit but someone in Plate (AC 3) would not be hit. (Technically probably hit but armour absorbs it).


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    #41
    ZeroThreat
    Registered Users Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Pah, a waste of my talents!


    :D


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    #42
    Kiith
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    Niska wrote: »
    To Hit AC 0 (Zero).

    Roll a d20 and subtract the result from your THACO gives the AC you hit. Any AC equal or higher is hit. It is very unintuitive...

    So above zombie rolls a 15, 19 - 15 = 4 so hits AC 4.

    So someone in chainmail (AC 5, assuming no Dex bonus, nor shield, nor magic etc)) would be hit but someone in Plate (AC 3) would not be hit. (Technically probably hit but armour absorbs it).

    So THACO high, AC low?

    You could have just said that :pac:


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    #43
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    You want a low thac0 because it's what you need to roll on a d20
    They got rid of it at some stage.... 3e?
    You want low ac as well

    Agreed bg2 is miles better than bg1. Especially if you get a mod to skip that annoying opening dungeon and imoen whingeing the whole time. I was so excited when i rewatched that star trek four lights episode OMG THAT'S IRENICUS :p

    Bg1 is like you can throw one single magic missile and then be like welp that's me done for the day


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    #44
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Ah i'll just stick with Carsomyr and the Flail of Ages...don't need to know stats to know they'll get the job done :)


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    #45
    coffee_cake
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    I always assembled it and never used it haha.
    I was just thinking i don't think I've ever played without edwin in all my 5 million replays.
    Dual class fighter mage and go around wreckin the place with edwin


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    #46
    Niska
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Niska


    Kiith wrote: »
    Ah i'll just stick with Carsomyr and the Flail of Ages...don't need to know stats to know they'll get the job done :)

    Now I want to play BG1 and 2 again......


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    #47
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I've used Edwin a few times, but my usual party is Minsc (of course), Jahera, Imoen (when available), Aerie/Nalia, and Anomen/Keldorn/Cernd. Or i'll use Tashia is i mod her in. Want to try a playthrough without Jaheria and Minsc though. Vicona is supposed to be great, but i'm always a Good aligned character, so she probably woulndn't be too happy.
    Niska wrote: »
    Now I want to play BG1 and 2 again......
    You're welcome :)


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    #48
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Love viconia i always go with her! Jaheria as well. It's definitely a balance keeping the rep medium and not too high


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    #49
    Lemming
    Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    GO FOR THE EYES BOO!! GO FOR THE EYYYESSSS!!


    Minsc (and his miniature pet space hamster Boo) is obligatory for endless entertainment.


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    #50
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    YouSavedMyLife wrote: »
    Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games

    If you mean to imply that they are a dime a dozen and the genre is completely saturated and we're all burned out on them, then, no, I don't think you could be more wrong.

    Hell, BG3 is explicitly not going to be isometric we've been told.


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    #51
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    bluewolf wrote: »

    Bg1 is like you can throw one single magic missile and then be like welp that's me done for the day

    Actually BG2 was as bad with Fireball. Spam dafuq out of that was all you needed to do.


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    #52
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Wand of Cloudkill, run away, Wand of Cloudkil, etc...even dragons were defeated by that mighty tactic.


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    #53
    Useful.Idiot
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    It's cool that they're focusing on Mind Flayers as the principal antagonists. Easily the most interesting (and absolute bastard to fight) enemies from BG2.


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    #54
    [Deleted User]
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    has anyone played the android ports?

    they are supposed to work well on a tablet.


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    #55
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    YouSavedMyLife wrote: »
    Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games
    I dont get this attitude tbh, Its Baldurs Gate 3! If they announced Half Life 3 would people be saying "Oh great another fps..."?


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    #56
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    I remember Baldurs gate being one of the best games I had ever played at the time. Totally sucked me in. I hope they do a good job on it, OS2 is quite good. A little boring at times to be honest. I just want the camera to be positioned further than in OS2, more like BG2 please.


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    #57
    coffee_cake
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    Kiith wrote: »
    Wand of Cloudkill, run away, Wand of Cloudkil, etc...even dragons were defeated by that mighty tactic.

    haha it's so true. get close enough to cast it but not enough to aggro!!!
    i always pulled some of the monsters in nalia's dungeon as well then locked the doors behind them. one at a time lol


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    #58
    Kiith
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    i always pulled some of the monsters in nalia's dungeon as well then locked the doors behind them. one at a time lol

    Those giant beetle things (umber hulks upon googling it) that cause confusion ****ed me over so many times. Definitely used the closed door trick a few times.


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    #59
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Kiith wrote: »
    Those giant beetle things (umber hulks upon googling it) that cause confusion ****ed me over so many times. Definitely used the closed door trick a few times.

    Those stupid f-ing things were the bane of my life.


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    #60
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Haha I remember using that exact door and cloudkill trick back in the day aswell. I didn't have a clue about RPGs back then so I remember cheesing the final boss in BG1 with summons, Direwolves and loads of other crap running around everywhere.


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    #61
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Thargor wrote: »
    I remember cheesing the final boss in BG1 with summons, Direwolves and loads of other crap running around everywhere.

    I didn't enjoy BG1 overly much so I kind of rushed through the story, so I ended up severely under-levelled for the Sarevok fight. I did, however, have a very large supply of monster summoning wands I had been hording, and in BG1 there was no limit on how many monsters you can summon at once.

    So I literally conjured an army and sent them off screen to go battle Sarevok, and as he hacked them down one by one I'd summon the next wave and send them in. They were queueing up, five across and ten deep, waiting their turn to take a swipe at him, as I pulled yet another fresh wand from the backpack, the party sitting around cleaning their nails and writing in their journals.

    He fell eventually, I assume - I never saw it but the end-game triggered so some lucky hobgoblin managed to cut him down, collapsing on the mountain of dead monsters he had created.


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