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02-11-2018, 19:41   #61
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would you seek asylum there if you could keep going to the US?

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Fly them to Canada, not packing heat up there.
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Calling 15000 people trying to get into a country with a population of over 300 million an 'invasion' is like calling a mosquito in your room an assassination attempt...

To be fair, mosquitos have killed millions now.
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In 2018, people don't even need for anything to have happened to get their outrage cranked up to 11...
Dont worry, calm down, have a cup of tea, then come back to us xx
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It's sad really. I mean it's easy for us to say omg they can't just expect to walk in there, but if you or I were from sh*thole like Honduras, chances are you'd be in the caravan too.
Here in Europe we can expect an endless growing flow of Africans to start flooding Europe, especially with climate change and droughts and crop failures etc. I really expect to see machine guns slaughtering hoardes trying to enter the US/Europe, before I die. The world is bursting at the seams and resources are going to become more scarce.
Climate change, droughts and crop failures have nothing to do with it. Didn't you see in the video? They all have smartphones and access to the internet, which means they can see how people in the US/Europe etc. live. The realisation of how much of a relatively sh*thole country they live in is what drives them to move.
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Climate change, droughts and crop failures have nothing to do with it. Didn't you see in the video? They all have smartphones and access to the internet, which means they can see how people in the US/Europe etc. live. The realisation of how much of a relatively sh*thole country they live in is what drives them to move.
Well yeah they're obviously attracted by the life depicted to them on their phones etc

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...entral-america

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Calling 15000 people trying to get into a country with a population of over 300 million an 'invasion' is like calling a mosquito in your room an assassination attempt...

There are already an estimated 30 million illegal immigrants living there... At what point is it an invasion then?
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Anyone ever read Grapes of Wrath?
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Anyone ever read Grapes of Wrath?

The Ghost of Tom Joad.
Listen to the Springsteen/Morello version.
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Climate change....
It started by 160 people in the crime-ridden Honduran city of San Pedro Sula, they're escaping gang violence, drug wars and corruption. They don't worry much about the actual weather.

After a former politician posted about it on Facepuke, the movement grew quickly (quick impluse reactions) and the next day it had 1,000 Hondurans. Most of them don't care jack about the weather neither.

If Hondura state actually got it's act together, maybe they wouldn't have the highest murder rate of any major city in the world.
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Saw some of them being interviewed the other day. Some are bringing their kids including babies. given the recent stuff with people being detained and separated from their children at the border, I don't know why they want to come. I'm a legal immigrant to the US and I worry about that. Not worth the risk imo.
Lads, these aren't illegal immigrants. They're asylum seekers. They're refugees. They're trying to get to the US border so they can lodge their applications and stay in the country legally.

If they wanted to sneak into the country, they're going about it in a very wierd way.

Europe take in about a million of refugees a year, America, should be waking up to it's responsibilities that it has signed up to through it's membership of the UNHCR and international human rights treaties.

The solution to refugee crisis is to tackle the reasons why these people are forced to leave their countries.
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The US government expects Colombia and Peru to host millions of Venezuelans but wants to open fire on a few thousand Hondurans going to their border.
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Lads, these aren't illegal immigrants. They're asylum seekers. They're refugees.
Some 'may be', but as you alluded to already, some are simply 'looking for a better life'.

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Europe take in about a million of refugees a year, America, should be waking up to it's responsibilities that it has signed up to through it's membership of the UNHCR and international human rights treaties.
And look at how things are going for Europe, hard-Brexit shortly, and an Itaxeit on the cards. German towns filled with rampant gangs, challenging election results in Sweden, forced integration in Denmark. Issues with Hungry and Poland being forced to accept migrants. Ireland is 7th fav to leave after these six.

The US already offers the DV visa opportunity, and is dealing with long-term, elevated levels of migration from Mexico already.

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The solution to refugee crisis is to tackle the reasons why these people are forced to leave their countries.
Exactly, problems are best dealt with at source with foreign aid, advisory services and investment. The reasons and source, not clearing up the messy after-effects.
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Some 'may be', but as you alluded to already, some are simply 'looking for a better life'.



And look at how things are going for Europe, hard-Brexit shortly, and an Itaxeit on the cards. German towns filled with rampant gangs, challenging election results in Sweden, forced integration in Denmark. Issues with Hungry and Poland being forced to accept migrants. Ireland is 7th fav to leave after these six.
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