Cork developments

who_me · 04-06-2021 12:24pm

The only quibble I'd have, is they could perhaps have raised the street level a few inches (or lowered the paths) to make it one common surface with no steps up/down. But perhaps as it is now is better, it's one way of making sure the tables & chairs don't intrude onto and block the pedestrian paths on either side.

macraignil · 04-06-2021 1:24pm

Not sure if this was posted yet but just found this website detailing plans to make use of the derelict site at the end of Cornmarket street on what is called Kyrl's quay. I pass the vacant space on my walk to work so it will be interesting to see how it is transformed into something useful after just being a sign of neglect in the city centre for so long. Was thinking myself that if it was made into a nice park and another one was built on the site where the old tax office was demolished on Sullivan's quay we would have a vastly improved city centre, with a strip of green running roughly north south from Kyrl's quay on the Shandon area side to the north to Nano Nagle site to the south which would be kept visible from Grand Parade if it were not to be turned into a high rise hotel. Would be a great avenue for tourists and locals to enjoy in my opinion or do we need more high rise developments here as well?

Only noticed the nice view of the Nano Nagle centre when the old tax office building was gone but looks to be in line to be replaced with this which personally I think is missing an opportunity to make Cork city centre a nicer place.

snotboogie · 04-06-2021 3:53pm

The Sullivans Quay Hotel is dependent on the Events Centre so two chances of that ever being built

jackrussel · 04-06-2021 5:14pm

Next Wednesday

Oliver Plunkett Street Lower: Road Closure in place from 2000-2300hrs from its junction with Parnell Place to its junction with N27 Custom House Street to facilitate crane lift. (Loftus Crane Hire)

Next Friday

Fr. Matthew Quay: Road Closure in place from 2100-0600hrs from its junction with Parliament Street to its junction with Fr Matthew Street to facilitate a crane lift. (ECC)

Anything good happening?

Justin Credible Darts · 04-06-2021 5:22pm

rounders wrote: »

Jesus give it a f*****g break!

correct

They want me to keep up the argument so they can then complain about it.
You cannot win with some people

hans aus dtschl · 04-06-2021 5:30pm

Tij da feen wrote: »

They also seem to be ignoring the fact that there used to be trains (maybe still is) that would run straight from Cobh - Mallow before, using Platform 5 in Kent.

I get the need for a new platform but it's not like this was something they've never done before.

What you're saying makes sense on the face of it, but it was not an easy thing for them to do, from what I remember. Some of the Mallow-Cork scheduled trains are the Dublin trains, and those then fill the two-track main platform section, leaving no room for a "straight through" service. I remember being sat on trains for quite a while on that "straight through" schedule and I remember dashing from one train to another on that "straight through" schedule. So they did schedule it, but it wasn't easy for them to run and it wasn't easy for passengers to use.

So they need that "passing loop" to achieve good continuity. I'm not a rail enthusiast, but I'd say they can explain it in more detail on the rail enthusiasts forum, if you're looking for details.

When that's done, you can extend very easily (for instance) the "Blackpool" station through to Cobh and so on. It's a big enabler project for the Cork network, even thought it seems like a reasonably small project.

thomil · 04-06-2021 5:36pm

jackrussel wrote: »

Next Wednesday

Oliver Plunkett Street Lower: Road Closure in place from 2000-2300hrs from its junction with Parnell Place to its junction with N27 Custom House Street to facilitate crane lift. (Loftus Crane Hire)

Next Friday

Fr. Matthew Quay: Road Closure in place from 2100-0600hrs from its junction with Parliament Street to its junction with Fr Matthew Street to facilitate a crane lift. (ECC)

Anything good happening?

Unless they've already cleared the site for the new hostel behind the bus station, the only site down there that would need a crane would be the Prism site if I'm not mistaken.

As for Father Matthew Quay, your guess is as good as mine, I have no idea if there are any projects planned for that particular area.

who_me · 04-06-2021 5:57pm

macraignil wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted yet but just found this website detailing plans to make use of the derelict site at the end of Cornmarket street on what is called Kyrl's quay. I pass the vacant space on my walk to work so it will be interesting to see how it is transformed into something useful after just being a sign of neglect in the city centre for so long. Was thinking myself that if it was made into a nice park and another one was built on the site where the old tax office was demolished on Sullivan's quay we would have a vastly improved city centre, with a strip of green running roughly north south from Kyrl's quay on the Shandon area side to the north to Nano Nagle site to the south which would be kept visible from Grand Parade if it were not to be turned into a high rise hotel. Would be a great avenue for tourists and locals to enjoy in my opinion or do we need more high rise developments here as well?

Only noticed the nice view of the Nano Nagle centre when the old tax office building was gone but looks to be in line to be replaced with this which personally I think is missing an opportunity to make Cork city centre a nicer place.

Yeah, I'd love to see that O'Sullivan's Quay site being used as a park or plaza. It's in private ownership now; but as said above, who knows if/when anything will happen with it? Plans for offices and a hotel were approved a long time ago and nothing's happening with it.

There are some ambitious sounding plans for the nearby area (Grand Parade, new boardwalk, new plaza approximately where the car-park is now near South gate bridge) so perhaps the need for more public space in the area isn't great. I wouldn't mind something a bit more appealing than the proposed development anyway.

rounders · 04-06-2021 6:25pm

jackrussel wrote: »

Next Wednesday

Oliver Plunkett Street Lower: Road Closure in place from 2000-2300hrs from its junction with Parnell Place to its junction with N27 Custom House Street to facilitate crane lift. (Loftus Crane Hire)

Next Friday

Fr. Matthew Quay: Road Closure in place from 2100-0600hrs from its junction with Parliament Street to its junction with Fr Matthew Street to facilitate a crane lift. (ECC)

Anything good happening?

For Fr. Matthews Quay, possibly the Moores Hotel site? Said to be opened by 2023 so I guess they would need to start soon. It's technically Morrisons Island though

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40091054.html

questionmark? · 04-06-2021 6:42pm

satanta99 wrote: »

Although this is effectively privatising a public street, there is definitely a positive gain for the city activating a space previously dominated by cars.

Hopefully this model of co-operation between business and local authority could act as a model for other neglected areas of the city.

On your first point I would say its opening the street to much more of the public as it was previously monopolised by private property I.e. motor vehicles with no benefit to the area or general public.

On second point, couldn't agree more. I hope to see this replicated around the city and the country. Outside space like this should be for people.

igCorcaigh · 04-06-2021 7:22pm

If they want to make the city centre to be more pedestrian friendly and disincentivise car use there, I can think of no simpler, cost-effective and inobtrusive way than adjusting the pedestrian lights to minimise the delay for pedestrians.

I've posted about this before, but there is a very long delay for pedestrians on some busy city centre road crossings: Patrick Street by Porters, the junction of Washington Street and the Grand Parade, and many others. This encourages jay walking and is a safety hazard.

It would make life easier for people walking across town, and also send a gentle but effective signal to car users not to pass through city centre streets as much as they do.

snotboogie · 04-06-2021 7:49pm

rounders wrote: »

For Fr. Matthews Quay, possibly the Moores Hotel site? Said to be opened by 2023 so I guess they would need to start soon. It's technically Morrisons Island though

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40091054.html

A crane lift could also be needed for any number of reasons, possibly to sure up the old existing Moores hotel building. The developers talked a big game so you never know. Not sure what use one would have on the Prism site, other than constriction.......

Mardyke · 04-06-2021 8:24pm

Why is it that the majority of people want a safe city, but the city managers don't? Is it that they are thick stupid or are they getting paid off by car companies or developers or the likes?

Justin Credible Darts · 04-06-2021 8:28pm

Mardyke wrote: »

Why is it that the majority of people want a safe city, but the city managers don't? Is it that they are thick stupid or are they getting paid off by car companies or developers or the likes?

has to be < Insert unsubstantiated claim here >.

They cannot be that stupid to influence enough positioning to get the jobs etc, so now they have them it must be something else.

jackrussel · 04-06-2021 8:50pm

rounders wrote: »

For Fr. Matthews Quay, possibly the Moores Hotel site? Said to be opened by 2023 so I guess they would need to start soon. It's technically Morrisons Island though

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40091054.html

The section that will be closed is from RTE to parliament bridge.

jackrussel · 04-06-2021 9:03pm

The area in the picture is by centra on south Douglas road. Both lots are housing/residential developments.

Some trees/bushes were cleared in the blue lot over a month ago but nothing since. Heard there’s an objection gone in - no idea if true or not.

The house in the red lot has been knocked down in the past 2 weeks and rubble cleared. Track machine still there so movement soon?

jackrussel · 04-06-2021 9:15pm

This area is by the SuperValu on Skehard road.

I see the building in the marked area is boarded up with Lyonshall Ltd signs but I didn’t see any planning signs. Apartments maybe at some stage?

Justin Credible Darts · 04-06-2021 9:22pm

big housing development going on here as well in the large green area

All the land cleared and the cement towers in and foundations going in

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mayfield,+Cork/@51.9139372,-8.4225343,379m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48449a94363a8333:0xcfc0cde8f774885f!8m2!3d51.9142651!4d-8.4356118

Treehelpplease · 04-06-2021 9:40pm

jackrussel wrote: »

This area is by the SuperValu on Skehard road.

I see the building in the marked area is boarded up with Lyonshall Ltd signs but I didn’t see any planning signs. Apartments maybe at some stage?

https://planning.corkcity.ie/AppFileRefDetails/2140052/0

opus · 04-06-2021 9:41pm

UCC's Tyndall expansion has been slapped down for now - Planners advise Tyndall to 'reconsider' demolition of former Cork Distillers plant

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Hibernicis · 05-06-2021 1:45am

opus wrote: »

UCC's Tyndall expansion has been slapped down for now

Slapped down is putting it mildly. The mildly titled “request for further information” is the first planning document from Cork City Council that I’ve seen which borders on displaying emotion, passion and anger…….

... there are however concerns of a very serious nature in respect of the proposal to entirely demolish a structure such as the former Bottling Plant that is referenced as an example of 20th Century industrial architecture in NIHA's publication "An Introduction to the Architectural Heritage of Cork City', and designed by renowned Cork modernist architect Frank Murphy.

“Therefore the applicant is strongly advised to re-consider this element of the proposal*, and meaningfully integrate the proposed building with the existing Bottling Plant.”

* Proposed Demolition of the former Bottling Plant

I love the juxtaposition in the above of “proposed building” with “existing Bottling Plant”. Whoever wrote that has a wicked sense of humour and is skilled in inserting the knife and twisting it gently

And even more witheringly…

“It is considered to be a serious omission that the submitted documentation does not include any survey layouts of the Bottling Plant itself or a Building Appraisal, other than a submitted ‘Demolition Plan’ which is a layout of the footprint only, along with some photographic images. It is noted that EIAR ‘Chapter 12 – Cultural History’ refers to the ‘a historical building survey to be carried out’ as part of the mitigating measures to be carried out, after its demolishment. The latter is not acceptable to the Planning Authority to provide an adequate assessment of what is proposed, and in particular it further hampers the industrial heritage assessment.”

It goes on in this vein but it’s too tedious to re-type it all. It is similarly disparaging in the sections relating to Masterplan, Positioning of Tall Building, Visual Impact and Design Aesthetic, Quantum of Car Parking etc.

This is a chance to reuse and recycle a building of genuine architectural and design merit. It could be a focal point and feature of the overall re-development of the site. This is far more important in terms of architectural conservation than the nonsensical facade retention that we have seen in Navigation Square and pointless preservation of 16 Lavitt's Quay.

The only concern I’d have now is that this being Ireland, Frank Murphy’s signature building might self-combust or fall down of its own accord or jump into the path of an oncoming JCB or have some other developer inspired "unfortunate accident".

Well done Cork City Council’s Planning Department, words I don't often get to say.

Markcheese · 05-06-2021 7:43am

The only concern I’d have now is that this being Ireland, Frank Murphy’s signature building might self-combust or fall down of its own accord or jump into the path of an oncoming JCB or have some other developer inspired "unfortunate accident".

The "unfortunate accident " is unlikely , because it's ucc ,not a private developer .
How ever they could just wait till it pretty much falls down - must be over 20 years of stagnation all ready ...

high horse · 05-06-2021 7:51am

That was Frank Murphys signature building? Really?

What is the appeal of this building? I've been around the grounds there and to my eyes it is a completely unremarkable building. I don't get it.

the beer revolu · 05-06-2021 9:51am

Regarding the conservation and incorporation of old buildings on Lavitt's Quay, I think there are excellent examples of how to do it and how not to do it.

Number 16, mentioned above (by half moon Street) is a terrible example and, I'd agree, was a pointless exercise - they may as well have demolished it.

Vibes and scribes, further down the queue, on the other hand, has a really nicely incorporated old building (the old Lavitt Gallery, iirc). This works because it has been given the space to exist and is not built over - the roof, from its peak forward, has been allowed to remain.

Done well, I really like old, existing buildings being retained and incorporated into new developments.

I'd like to have seen that done with the Sextant building - not because I had any affection for the pub but because I think it would have softened the impact of that area only having new builds.
But, hey, it's gone now and I don't lose any sleep over it.
I really fail to see why wishing to preserve some older buildings and making them an integrated part of new developments is seen by many as being "anti development" and "anti progress".
It really isn't. And, yes, I do understand that there is a financial cost to doing this.

Treehelpplease · 05-06-2021 4:45pm

penrose dock is a great example of good conservation and retention. The retained building still shines on its own and actually looks a lot better as it is now. The same can be said for the sheds next to the Dean. The retention of the georgian house outside the offices on the river are a bit more risky but still work to a lot of people as again, the original building can be read on its own and is complimented by the new element. Others may agree but I think Navigation House is a good example too. The front elevation was the only interesting part of the building and it now acts as a nice entry doorway. The only problem for me is it being off centre, otherwise it elevates the new building a lot and is actually what you see first. The same can be said for the Counting House.

as for the sextant site. The buildings being kept further from the river work extremely well. They lower the height of the corner, can be read as their own and again greatly enhance the new element i.e. the plaza. I personally can not see how the sextant building would have been able to be worked in. Its too small and unremarkable to be a standout corner building like penrose house. It isn't good enough to stand alone like carey house and the albert road terminus. It wasnt big enough to built over like the georgian house at horgans quay, or left as is like the sheds next to the dean. I don't see how they would have incorporated the building in such a way that would benefit the building itself and benefit the newer elements. It was tiny so it would have lowered the height of the corner awkwardly. It is likley that whatever they would have thought of, people wouldn't be happy. It likely would have ended up like Lavitts Quay. It wasn't remarkable enough to keep and I can't find any story of it being historical in anyway other than people enjoying a pint there (not a good reason at all) and it being old. Also. its gone now! So we are wasting our time still talking about it.

Justin Credible Darts · 05-06-2021 5:06pm

guess in the end it is how they all blend together.

For me that is why connolly Hall is one of the most hideous disgusting things I have ever seen allowed be built.
That manky looking thing between those stone buildings looks just awful

Treehelpplease · 05-06-2021 5:20pm

I would love to see connolly hall knocked and replaced by a park. Expose the stone at the side of the KBC Bank too. The blank wall of the cork savings bank can be remade similar to the walls JCD remade for Penrose house and the burger king building next to The Capital. Great views of city hall and make the two stone buildings nicer

Justin Credible Darts · 05-06-2021 8:20pm

Treehelpplease wrote: »

I would love to see connolly hall knocked and replaced by a park. Expose the stone at the side of the KBC Bank too. The blank wall of the cork savings bank can be remade similar to the walls JCD remade for Penrose house and the burger king building next to The Capital. Great views of city hall and make the two stone buildings nicer

The could put a car park there and it would still be better than what is there now.

but , yes, some park would be nice, and the back where the church is and the old motorbike place, is one dreary spot.
With the Prism going in you hope the area becomes less dreary.

Markcheese · 05-06-2021 8:25pm

high horse wrote: »

That was Frank Murphys signature building? Really?

What is the appeal of this building? I've been around the grounds there and to my eyes it is a completely unremarkable building. I don't get it.

I think it's the fact that it's a "building of it's time " , I've seen a few pics of it ,in it's prime , and it was kind of cool looking - admittedly now it's in need of serious work - I'm surprised they want to keep the bottling plant building itself , just looked like an unremarkable old factory building - but I don't really know - , was there something in the rebuttal ,about UCC hadn't actually offered or even done a proper survey of the existing buildings ,

daithi7 · 07-06-2021 2:50am

high horse wrote: »

That was Frank Murphys signature building? Really?

What is the appeal of this building? I've been around the grounds there and to my eyes it is a completely unremarkable building. I don't get it.

It's an awful looking building imho. It's being retained at great cost to further development for being an example of a particular type of industrial building... well boo fuppin hoo.

Move on Cork City Council, and let the Tyndall & the City's developers help the city modernise as best functionally, aesthetically, economically & as effectively as possible.

Retaining derelict, ugly, former bottling plants to hold up new development is totally counter productive imho.

dinneenp · 15-06-2021 11:16am

Railway Gardens 17 story building, 118 1,2 and 3 bedroom apartments- link

"It includes 239 bicycle spaces and just five car parking spaces — three disabled spaces and two for service vehicles." I understand trying to encourage less cars/driving but 0 car spaces besides the 2 disabled spaces seems extremely harsh. I can't imagine a group of 118 families/couple where one of them don't own a car....

TheChizler · 15-06-2021 12:20pm

This was one I always assumed was a get-planning-and-flip job. Is it promising that they're following up with the site or something that would need to be done to package up the site?

I cycled over the pedestrian bridge overlooking it this morning and it wasn't clear what the strip of land was. Hardly the roadside verge?

chalkitdown1 · 15-06-2021 1:39pm

TheChizler wrote: »

This was one I always assumed was a get-planning-and-flip job. Is it promising that they're following up with the site or something that would need to be done to package up the site?

I cycled over the pedestrian bridge overlooking it this morning and it wasn't clear what the strip of land was. Hardly the roadside verge?

Yeah, I'm puzzed as to what strip of land they're referring to.

This is the plot they originally bought, right?

Unless it's the tiny bit where the trees are next to the South Link behind the gardens.

whisky_galore · 15-06-2021 9:25pm

dinneenp wrote: »

Railway Gardens 17 story building, 118 1,2 and 3 bedroom apartments- link

"It includes 239 bicycle spaces and just five car parking spaces — three disabled spaces and two for service vehicles." I understand trying to encourage less cars/driving but 0 car spaces besides the 2 disabled spaces seems extremely harsh. I can't imagine a group of 118 families/couple where one of them don't own a car....

Ironically "Railway Gardens" not even near a functioning rail line. Way to go, public transport alternative.
Maybe people are supposed to park their cars at the park n ride out of accommodation desperation?

Justin Credible Darts · 15-06-2021 9:28pm

dinneenp wrote: »

Railway Gardens 17 story building, 118 1,2 and 3 bedroom apartments- link

"It includes 239 bicycle spaces and just five car parking spaces — three disabled spaces and two for service vehicles." I understand trying to encourage less cars/driving but 0 car spaces besides the 2 disabled spaces seems extremely harsh. I can't imagine a group of 118 families/couple where one of them don't own a car....

of course if you mention idiotic decisions like this, or the state of the city centre due to the failings of the council, among other things, you will get cork people getting defensive

TheChizler · 15-06-2021 11:45pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Ironically "Railway Gardens" not even near a functioning rail line. Way to go, public transport alternative.
Maybe people are supposed to park their cars at the park n ride out of accommodation desperation?

I think the idea is that people renting here don't own cars at all. I hope it works and it doesn't become a free-for-all on the streets.

TheChizler · 15-06-2021 11:47pm

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Yeah, I'm puzzed as to what strip of land they're referring to.

This is the plot they originally bought, right?

Unless it's the tiny bit where the trees are next to the South Link behind the gardens.

I had a look on land direct and thats the only parcel of land that might be a contender. Looks way bigger than 250 sq m or so, maybe they're splitting it.

timmyjimmy · 16-06-2021 8:48am

TheChizler wrote: »

I think the idea is that people renting here don't own cars at all. I hope it works and it doesn't become a free-for-all on the streets.

The owning of cars has to be policed by the letting agents and have it part of the contract. A similar situation as railway gardens but not as big is Grattan Court on Grattan Hill. I lived near here before the apartments became occupied, they were empty for a few years and then started to become occupied around this time last year. Low and behold, parking chaos, cars parked everywhere. I used to be able to find parking close to my house but after the apartments opened, I often had to park on Lower Glanmire rd. Parking warden came out every then but that wasn't going to stop the constant illegal parking, especially after 6:30 when wardens are finished.

I'm all for parking free accommodation but it needs to policed as part of the letting contract otherwise people will move in with cars. I have a friend who lives near RG and is objecting to it and I can't blame him. Cars will be abandoned everywhere if not policed properly.

the beer revolu · 16-06-2021 10:05am

timmyjimmy wrote: »

The owning of cars has to be policed by the letting agents and have it part of the contract. A similar situation as railway gardens but not as big is Grattan Court on Grattan Hill. I lived near here before the apartments became occupied, they were empty for a few years and then started to become occupied around this time last year. Low and behold, parking chaos, cars parked everywhere. I used to be able to find parking close to my house but after the apartments opened, I often had to park on Lower Glanmire rd. Parking warden came out every then but that wasn't going to stop the constant illegal parking, especially after 6:30 when wardens are finished.

I'm all for parking free accommodation but it needs to policed as part of the letting contract otherwise people will move in with cars. I have a friend who lives near RG and is objecting to it and I can't blame him. Cars will be abandoned everywhere if not policed properly.

I can't think of any way to police this.
You can't stop someone from buying a car.

bingo9999 · 16-06-2021 10:14am

the beer revolu wrote: »

I can't think of any way to police this.
You can't stop someone from buying a car.

I think the idea is you make it a condition of getting the letting to not park in surrounding streets. I would think its largely self policing - why would you rent this place if you know there is no parkign and you'll be circling around the block trying to dump your car, putting paid parking tickets on it etc. Maybe others have parking at work in the city and that sorts them..

Shedite27 · 16-06-2021 10:16am

I guess the point is that people know before they rent/buy the apartment, they won't own a car. It's not like someone is going to buy a car and then bring it home and realise "ah feck, where am I going to park this".

the beer revolu · 16-06-2021 10:20am

bingo9999 wrote: »

I think the idea is you make it a condition of getting the letting to not park in surrounding streets. I would think its largely self policing - why would you rent this place if you know there is no parkign and you'll be circling around the block trying to dump your car, putting paid parking tickets on it etc. Maybe others have parking at work in the city and that sorts them..

You could make it a condition but I see no way of legally enforcing it!

timmyjimmy · 16-06-2021 10:52am

the beer revolu wrote: »

I can't think of any way to police this.
You can't stop someone from buying a car.

No you can't stop someone buying a car but there must be bigger penalties if they continue to park illegally or even penalties to the landlords who rent the property to a tenant who owns a car.

The idea is that people will walk/commute to the city centre from RG, I have no doubt people will move in owning a car especially if there is nothing to say that they can't own a car. The Railway gardens area will be a SS if tenants move in owning cars or buy a car while living there.

timmyjimmy · 16-06-2021 10:55am

bingo9999 wrote: »

I think the idea is you make it a condition of getting the letting to not park in surrounding streets. I would think its largely self policing - why would you rent this place if you know there is no parkign and you'll be circling around the block trying to dump your car, putting paid parking tickets on it etc. Maybe others have parking at work in the city and that sorts them..

People rent places all the time in Cork knowing that there is no parking available for their apartment. We all know that it's pretty easy to abandon a car in Cork and not receive any fine, especially after daytime hours. Saying that, on street parking becomes free after 6:30. Also, there is no policing after 6:30, cars are parked all over the place on double yellow lines.

TheChizler · 16-06-2021 11:39am

The executive denied a motion from the elected Council to reimplement towering on the grounds it wasn't cost effective and created a negative perception of the city. Just shows you they have no interest in tackling the issue really. Council employees are some of the worst offenders for dangerous parking.

snotboogie · 16-06-2021 2:01pm

Seems site prep is underway at the Coca Cola student site https://twitter.com/WonkyAnkle/status/1405089424904445953?s=19

jackrussel · 18-06-2021 8:05am

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Douglas Eegit · 18-06-2021 9:12am

jackrussel wrote: »

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

ah here. This makes the spot besides Barrys look the better option.

Surely Douglas and surrounds can't sustain this?
Grange: Aldi & Supervalu
Douglas: Tesco & M&S & Dunnes & Aldi (soon) & Iceland
Skehard Road: SuperValu & Aldi & Aldi (soon)

Not including the Daybreaks and Centras and Tesco Express dotted about.

rounders · 18-06-2021 9:40am

jackrussel wrote: »

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40316846.html

rf1980 · 18-06-2021 9:43am

At this stage they should just build a combined Aldi and Lidi and put Douglas village inside it.

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