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The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

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    #9692
    Big Ears
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    Kevin Fahey, Bill Maher, Colin O'Riordan and Conor Sweeney nominated for All-Stars.
    Bill maybe a little lucky to get the nod over Kiely for me.

    Quinlivin definitely unlucky when you see Clifford has been included for the losing effort Vs Cork.


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    #9693
    robbiezero
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    Big Ears wrote: »
    Kevin Fahey, Bill Maher, Colin O'Riordan and Conor Sweeney nominated for All-Stars.
    Bill maybe a little lucky to get the nod over Kiely for me.

    Quinlivin definitely unlucky when you see Clifford has been included for the losing effort Vs Cork.

    Deffo. That was the worst game I have seen Clifford play.


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    #9694
    johnb25
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    Big Ears wrote: »
    Kevin Fahey, Bill Maher, Colin O'Riordan and Conor Sweeney nominated for All-Stars.
    Bill maybe a little lucky to get the nod over Kiely for me.

    Quinlivin definitely unlucky when you see Clifford has been included for the losing effort Vs Cork.

    Clifford did score well leading Kerry to the League title, so that probably pulled him through. Quinlivan probably a bit unlucky but given he has one already, and Tipp already have 4 nominations probably made it easier to leave him out.


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    #9695
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    Tynan is big and strong... do management maybe see him as a direct replacement for the Bonnar?


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    #9696
    Rasputin11
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    Any word on who's in line for the minor hurling job?


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    #9697
    Lost Ormond
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Tynan is big and strong... do management maybe see him as a direct replacement for the Bonnar?
    He's not that big. 6' and 80 ish kg.
    Will be interesting what role he will play if he plays a few games.


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    #9698
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    He's not that big. 6' and 80 ish kg.
    Will be interesting what role he will play if he plays a few games.

    6 foot is fairly big. Perhaps not Gearoid Hegarty big, but big enough.


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    #9699
    Lost Ormond
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    6 foot is fairly big. Perhaps not Gearoid Hegarty big, but big enough.
    Its about average height for players these days. This study is from few years ago but wont be far off what it is now
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02640414.2015.1085076?journalCode=rjsp20
    And 80kg is about average as well for inter county players


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    #9700
    formerlyET
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    At 19, 2017, Tynan was down at

    Position: Fullback/Outhalf

    Height: 5’11

    Weight: 12st 10lb

    I'd imagine he is closer to 90kg now than 80 - unless he neglected the gym and has been on a strict diet since giving up rugby. I'm not saying he hasn't but I'd be surprised if he wasn't closer to 90kg than 80kg. A man tends to have a bigger frame at 23 than 19.


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    #9701
    Lost Ormond
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    formerlyET wrote: »
    At 19, 2017, Tynan was down at

    Position: Fullback/Outhalf

    Height: 5’11

    Weight: 12st 10lb

    I'd imagine he is closer much closer to 90kg now than 80 - unless he neglected the gym and has been on a strict diet since giving up rugby. I'm not saying he hasn't but I'd be surprised if he wasn't closer to 90kg than 80kg. A man tends to have a bigger frame at 23 than 19.

    Even 90kg isnt exactly huge.
    https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/match-programmes-weight-height-measures-players-shows-surprising-imbalance-132884


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    #9702
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    Its about average height for players these days. This study is from few years ago but wont be far off what it is now
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02640414.2015.1085076?journalCode=rjsp20
    And 80kg is about average as well for inter county players

    Okay, but besides the point, i can only imagine that he is fairly hardy from playing rugby. Used to rucks, anticipating turnovers, reading the breaks.

    Maybe this can transfer over to his hurling? As the game becomes more congested in the middle, we need ball winners and Bonnar has perhaps 1, maybe 2 seasons left max (as well as that he may not be a starter)


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    #9703
    formerlyET
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    Even 90kg isnt exactly huge.
    https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/match-programmes-weight-height-measures-players-shows-surprising-imbalance-132884

    I didn't say he was huge. Never mentioned it.


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    #9704
    Lost Ormond
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    formerlyET wrote: »
    I didn't say he was huge. Never mentioned it.

    Gunner first mentioned him as big and strong. I merely pointed out he isnt that big. If he was 6'3/6'4 and a few kgs heavier then you claim he was but he isnt.
    He's fairly average size for a hurler


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    #9705
    formerlyET
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    Gunner first mentioned him as big and strong. I merely pointed out he isnt that big. If he was 6'3/6'4 and a few kgs heavier then you claim he was but he isnt.
    He's fairly average size for a hurler

    Then why are you tagging me in points you want to make to Gunner?

    What recent games have you seen Tynan hurl in?


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    #9706
    Lost Ormond
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Okay, but besides the point, i can only imagine that he is fairly hardy from playing rugby. Used to rucks, anticipating turnovers, reading the breaks.

    Maybe this can transfer over to his hurling? As the game becomes more congested in the middle, we need ball winners and Bonnar has perhaps 1, maybe 2 seasons left max (as well as that he may not be a starter)
    Just because you played rugby even to pro level doesnt make you hardy or anything near good at ball winning in hurling. Very big if to say it can transfer to hurling
    formerlyET wrote: »
    Then why are you tagging me in points you want to make to Gunner?

    What recent games have you seen Tynan hurl in?
    I didnt tag you in anything and i was referencing your post so why wouldnt i quote him?
    Have only seen odd video highlight clip of him hurling recently.


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    #9707
    formerlyET
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    Have only seen odd video highlight clip of him hurling recently.

    Exactly.


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    #9708
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    Festive Life wrote: »
    Just because you played rugby even to pro level doesnt make you hardy or anything near good at ball winning in hurling. Very big if to say it can transfer to hurling

    Only time will tell.


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    #9709
    benji79
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    I’ve seen a former Munster pro line out in some hurling games for his club a few years back. Now a bit different because he’d been 10+ years away from hurling. But the biggest thing was he couldn’t move, it seemed to be a totally different type of fitness & conditioning. He was strong as an ox but his hurling was slow and predictable


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    #9710
    formerlyET
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    Billy McCarthy back in...
    Hurling training panel for 2021:


    Alan Flynn, Alan Tynan
    Barry Heffernan, Barry Hogan, Billy McCarthy,

    Billy Seymour, Brian Hogan,Brendan Maher, Brian McGrath,

    Bryan O'Mara, Cathal Barrett, Cian Darcy,

    Craig Morgan, Dan McCormack, Dylan Quirke, Eoghan Connolly,

    Ger Browne, Jake Morris, James Quigley, Jason Forde,

    John McGrath, John Meagher, John O'Dwyer, Mark Kehoe,

    Michael Breen, Niall O'Meara, Noel McGrath,

    Paddy Cadell, Patrick Maher, Paraic Maher,

    Paul Flynn, Paul Maher, Robert Byrne,

    Ronan Maher, Seamie Callanan, Seamus Kennedy, Willie Connors.


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    #9711
    Rasputin11
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    Is there any reason that Byrne's is still there other than his club? Cian Darcy still there and Bowe or Ormonde not involved.


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    #9712
    Bill Ponderosa
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    Rasputin11 wrote: »
    Is there any reason that Byrne's is still there other than his club? Cian Darcy still there and Bowe or Ormonde not involved.

    Bowe didn't go great for the under 20's and has gone in with the footballers, Ormonde was good but he's very light for senior.

    Surprised to see Billy back, thought his knee went again?


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    #9713
    formerlyET
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    Bill Ponderosa wrote: »

    Surprised to see Billy back, thought his knee went again?

    His knee did go again recently. That must be the third time?

    It is just a training panel... but if you're Jerry Kelly you must be scratching your head. What was it six points from play in all-ireland club final? And you can't make a training squad...

    I hear Jerome Cahill can't juggle the demands of being in Dublin and accountancy with the demands of intercounty - that's a real shame. A fantastic hurler.


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    #9714
    formerlyET
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    Rasputin11 wrote: »
    Is there any reason that Byrne's is still there other than his club? Cian Darcy still there and Bowe or Ormonde not involved.

    Don't fancy Trigger or Byrne?


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    #9715
    Joe_ Public
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    Hopefully ormonds time will come, seems like a player who can make things happen. Downside of swiitch from 21 to 20 is players now have a bit of a lull in their inter county development, ideally you'd like to see them have another year but thems the rules, as they say. I like cian darcy too, or bits i've seen of him. If he could be more consistent i imagine he has a chance. Maybe behind the likes of quirke though who have more natural flair.


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    #9716
    Rasputin11
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    formerlyET wrote: »
    Don't fancy Trigger or Byrne?

    Neither of them anywhere near the standard but from the right clubs.


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    #9717
    Paddico
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    Was hoping Tynan would pick football


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    #9718
    Paddico
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    formerlyET wrote: »
    8 players drafted into the senior football training panel.

    Anyone have the list of players.
    Thanks

    Pad


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    #9719
    formerlyET
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    Moyne-Templetuohy’s Conor Bowe, Conor O’Sullivan of Galtee Rovers, a corner back on the All-Ireland-winning minor team in 2011; Kuba Beben of JK Brackens, last year’s county U20 goalkeeper; Grangemockler’s Mark O’Meara; Liam Ryan of Clonmel Commercials; Shane O’Connell of Golden/Kilfeacle; Moyle Rovers’ Stephen Quirke; Shane Ryan of Galtee Rovers and Tom Meade, Moyne-Templetuohy.


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    #9720
    formerlyET
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    Has anyone seen much of Luke Cashin or Darragh Tynan?


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    #9721
    [Deleted User]
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    formerlyET wrote: »
    His knee did go again recently. That must be the third time?

    It is just a training panel... but if you're Jerry Kelly you must be scratching your head. What was it six points from play in all-ireland club final? And you can't make a training squad...

    I hear Jerome Cahill can't juggle the demands of being in Dublin and accountancy with the demands of intercounty - that's a real shame. A fantastic hurler.

    Id have Gerry in myself, but id say his physical condition is coming against him. He is deceptively able to get around the pitch though. Was terrific for Borris.


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