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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Rebelgirl87


    Hunchback wrote: »
    I still regret not getting a particular exam rechecked - it was nearly twenty years ago (my leaving).

    If you really believe that there is a chance you might pass......do it. What is it? 105 quid or something? It's not the end of the world.

    Anticipate that the mark doesn't change (in which case you at least have closure), or, in the unlikely alternative, it does change and you get the pass mark.



    As I said, if you REALLY have a strong sense that you did better, do it. If you are wrong, you are down around a hundred quid, but at least you can put it to bed and move forward


    Thank you for talking it out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 monroe89


    Would someone mind sharing the actual link to the March timetable...I don't know whether I'm just being a little dense but I can't see it anywhere, please and thank you :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Rebelgirl87


    monroe89 wrote: »
    Would someone mind sharing the actual link to the March timetable...I don't know whether I'm just being a little dense but I can't see it anywhere, please and thank you :)

    This should be the link to the application form which has the dates. Good luck.

    https://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/education/FE-1/FE1-application-March2017.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 monroe89


    Thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭L124


    Hey,
    I sat my first set in October - I only did three because with work and everything I didn't want to spread myself too thin.

    Did quite well in two of them but got mid 30s in the last one. Law society said that the fail had been to the external on correction and if I appeal it will go to the same external marker so is there any point in me rechecking it? I know from talking to someone who got 48 in Equity before on their recheck were given a 47 so it doesn't seem like I would get anywhere and for 115€ I would probably be better just putting it towards the repeat.

    If I do go ahead and just repeat the three (not something I want to do because I have actually passed and did well in two already) should I take a fourth subject? Can anyone recommend what fourth one to take?
    I did Contract, Constitutional, Tort - and failed contract.

    Any advice would be great- thanks!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 623 ✭✭✭smeal


    L124 wrote: »
    Hey,
    I sat my first set in October - I only did three because with work and everything I didn't want to spread myself too thin.

    Did quite well in two of them but got mid 30s in the last one. Law society said that the fail had been to the external on correction and if I appeal it will go to the same external marker so is there any point in me rechecking it? I know from talking to someone who got 48 in Equity before on their recheck were given a 47 so it doesn't seem like I would get anywhere and for 115€ I would probably be better just putting it towards the repeat.

    If I do go ahead and just repeat the three (not something I want to do because I have actually passed and did well in two already) should I take a fourth subject? Can anyone recommend what fourth one to take?
    I did Contract, Constitutional, Tort - and failed contract.

    Any advice would be great- thanks!!

    Hi L124!

    Can I just ask how you found out that an external examiner marked your paper? I also failed Contract for a second time and its my final exam.

    A fourth subject should be fine if you have the majority of your notes done. I would go for property as a fourth as the work load is quite small compared to others and it has a very high pass rate. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭L124


    smeal wrote: »
    Hi L124!

    Can I just ask how you found out that an external examiner marked your paper? I also failed Contract for a second time and its my final exam.

    A fourth subject should be fine if you have the majority of your notes done. I would go for property as a fourth as the work load is quite small compared to others and it has a very high pass rate. :)



    Hey,

    Well I rang them Friday soon after I saw the results - was hoping there was some way I could hold onto my passes, needless to say I was a bit of a wreck. (It just doesn't seem fair that you have to redo exams that you have passed simply because you failed a completely separate exam?) So during the conversation I was told I can always recheck my paper and it would go to the external marker. I literally just asked if it was the same external that might have seen my paper and they said there's only one external marker so yes but they didn't know if the external saw my paper, but within seconds (I think my script must have been in front of them) said yes the external did review your paper.

    My guess is the external sees all fails and if not then I have no idea why mine was reviewed. perhaps the initial marker sent it to the external with a question about something or what not.

    I just can't imagine having seen my script they will say they were wrong and award the 14% to pass. I answered all 5 questions and did a (what I thought was) a fairly good stab at it as in I had legal authorities for my points.


    Also - thank you for the tip re. property!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Redo91


    L124 wrote: »
    Hey,

    Well I rang them Friday soon after I saw the results - was hoping there was some way I could hold onto my passes, needless to say I was a bit of a wreck. (It just doesn't seem fair that you have to redo exams that you have passed simply because you failed a completely separate exam?) So during the conversation I was told I can always recheck my paper and it would go to the external marker. I literally just asked if it was the same external that might have seen my paper and they said there's only one external marker so yes but they didn't know if the external saw my paper, but within seconds (I think my script must have been in front of them) said yes the external did review your paper.

    My guess is the external sees all fails and if not then I have no idea why mine was reviewed. perhaps the initial marker sent it to the external with a question about something or what not.

    I just can't imagine having seen my script they will say they were wrong and award the 14% to pass. I answered all 5 questions and did a (what I thought was) a fairly good stab at it as in I had legal authorities for my points.


    Also - thank you for the tip re. property!

    If the external marker does indeed see all fails then I doubt he/she actually marks it. I mean otherwise no ones rechecks would go up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭L124


    Redo91 wrote: »
    If the external marker does indeed see all fails then I doubt he/she actually marks it. I mean otherwise no ones rechecks would go up.

    To be honest, I don't know the number of papers the external reviews upon the initial marking of the papers etc. All I am saying is that I have no idea why the external would look at a random 36% paper when the pass mark is 50%.the only justification I can find is that the external sees them all.
    But of course, as you say, why then would anyone be brought up upon recheck. :confused:

    My first time round sitting the FE1s so I am the least qualified person to answer any questions really.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Exam marking is a very qualitative process and as such, many factors can have a bearing and lead to a "harsh" result. There isn't that much of a difference between 36% and 50% in terms of the marking of exams - the difference could be just a few marks per question, depending on how the marks are divided up.

    If a mark is appealed, a fresh look is taken and I would think a concerted effort to be as objective as possible comes into play and this can result in those few marks being added here and there bringing it up to an overall pass.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 chocchip12


    Hi guys congrats to all who passed! I failed equity with 43% and I'm debating getting it rechecked since I thought it was one of the better exams.

    Does anyone know when the rechecks are done? It would be fairly useless to find out in February that I still failed it and had to repeat!

    Thanks in advance!


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭L124


    chocchip12 wrote: »
    Hi guys congrats to all who passed! I failed equity with 43% and I'm debating getting it rechecked since I thought it was one of the better exams.

    Does anyone know when the rechecks are done? It would be fairly useless to find out in February that I still failed it and had to repeat!

    Thanks in advance!

    Hey :)

    It says on the re-check application form that the (provisional) date of rechecked results would be 20th Jan. So you'd still have time then to apply for your repeat if you needed to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 nekk


    Just passed the last of my FE1s. What's the next step does anybody know? What do I need to do now once I have found a training solicitor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 collao


    Does anyone have a Contract exam grid they can send me? I have up to date Company/Constitutional ones in return.

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    nekk wrote: »
    Just passed the last of my FE1s. What's the next step does anybody know? What do I need to do now once I have found a training solicitor?

    From their site;

    If you have passed the FE-1, please note that you must apply for consent to enter into indentures of apprenticeship within five years of 31 December 2016.

    You should probably ring them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Galwayfrench23


    Is anyone unhappy or shocked by their contract law result? I considered it one of my better ones and stil got in the mid 30's. thanks :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Is anyone unhappy or shocked by their contract law result? I considered it one of my better ones and stil got in the mid 30's. thanks :-)

    I wouldn't say shocked exactly, I knew I didnt do fantastically in it but I was surprised my mark was only in the 30's, I did think my result would be somewhere in the 40's but just not enough to pass. I think it was very marked extremely hard this time round, not sure about any other years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    Does anyone know if we're allowed to apply online for the next sitting? Last time the link was directly below the results but the option doesn't seem to be available now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭cup of tea


    Anyone know what came up in equity last sitting?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Dr Ice


    Also does anyone know where the exam timetable is? I know someone posted the dates up here a few days ago but I can't find a link to it on the site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Redhighking


    Dr Ice wrote: »
    Also does anyone know where the exam timetable is? I know someone posted the dates up here a few days ago but I can't find a link to it on the site.

    https://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/...-March2017.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    Hey does any have reasonably up to date grids they could send me? I am doing EU, Constitutional, Property and Company. ? I am willing to Trade notes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    cup of tea wrote: »
    Anyone know what came up in equity last sitting?

    I'll check the exam paper when I get a chance but off the top of my head:

    - Injunctions (think it was Quia timet but I didn't answer that question so could be wrong)
    - Proprietary estoppel
    - Specific performance (it was a question on how the courts deal with SP of contracts to build or repair / personal services, one or the other)
    - Undue influence
    - Charitable trusts
    - I think rectification was on it

    I can't remember the rest :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Peekaboodles


    Hi guys,

    I'm new to this thread and Fe1 study in general as I am preparing to sit my first set of exams in March,if there is anywhere I should be looking for general information in this thread about guides for studying/ tips etc please let me know.

    I have just returned from working in the States and am going to be treating studying for these exams like a full time job for the first lot of them, before working full time after that.
    I was wondering what exams and how many of them you would recommend sitting seeing as I have a couple of months to study for these first ones, whilst I will be more than likely working full time for the second lot?

    I am looking to sit at least four, possibly five, I am not hugely competent or confident in exam settings and have a tendency to choke sometimes so do not want to push myself too hard.
    Thanks so much, sorry if I am asking the same question as every other person!


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Redhighking


    Hi guys,

    I'm new to this thread and Fe1 study in general as I am preparing to sit my first set of exams in March,if there is anywhere I should be looking for general information in this thread about guides for studying/ tips etc please let me know.

    I have just returned from working in the States and am going to be treating studying for these exams like a full time job for the first lot of them, before working full time after that.
    I was wondering what exams and how many of them you would recommend sitting seeing as I have a couple of months to study for these first ones, whilst I will be more than likely working full time for the second lot?

    I am looking to sit at least four, possibly five, I am not hugely competent or confident in exam settings and have a tendency to choke sometimes so do not want to push myself too hard.
    Thanks so much, sorry if I am asking the same question as every other person!

    I would say go for 5 or 6! The timetable for March is great, alot of breaks between some of the exams.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    Hi guys,

    I'm new to this thread and Fe1 study in general as I am preparing to sit my first set of exams in March,if there is anywhere I should be looking for general information in this thread about guides for studying/ tips etc please let me know.

    I have just returned from working in the States and am going to be treating studying for these exams like a full time job for the first lot of them, before working full time after that.
    I was wondering what exams and how many of them you would recommend sitting seeing as I have a couple of months to study for these first ones, whilst I will be more than likely working full time for the second lot?

    I am looking to sit at least four, possibly five, I am not hugely competent or confident in exam settings and have a tendency to choke sometimes so do not want to push myself too hard.
    Thanks so much, sorry if I am asking the same question as every other person!

    I think 5 should be doable, especially with how the timetable is this time. If you're planning on getting these done in two sittings I would recommend taking either EU, Tort or Constitutional done as one of your first ones as these have more to cover than the other five and can be more technical/complex than the others as well so it's nice not to have them all to do together.

    If you're a bit nervous about your first sitting though, I think Criminal, Equity and Property are probably the nicer ones to do, with either Company or Contract as a fourth and/or fifth.

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 HazNdan


    Hey does anyone have an exam grid for EU and Constitutional?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 letmcg


    Could anyone send me an exam grid for EU and Property?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    Hi guys,

    I'm new to this thread and Fe1 study in general as I am preparing to sit my first set of exams in March,if there is anywhere I should be looking for general information in this thread about guides for studying/ tips etc please let me know.

    I have just returned from working in the States and am going to be treating studying for these exams like a full time job for the first lot of them, before working full time after that.
    I was wondering what exams and how many of them you would recommend sitting seeing as I have a couple of months to study for these first ones, whilst I will be more than likely working full time for the second lot?

    I am looking to sit at least four, possibly five, I am not hugely competent or confident in exam settings and have a tendency to choke sometimes so do not want to push myself too hard.
    Thanks so much, sorry if I am asking the same question as every other person!
    I would recommend four for the first sitting. There is a lot of material to cover in even the shorter subjects and you need to take the time to get familiar with the format of these exams. once you sit them the first time you know what to expect and will be able to get through the work much easier in your second set.

    In relation to subject choices, the smaller subjects are better to take first time around as it is important that you get your first three.Criminal is a good one to take and the examiner reports are excellent for this subject. He basically lays out the answers he wants. You can get them from the law society.

    I would also say avoid skipping topic where possible. It could leave you short a question to answer and mean the difference between a pass and a fail.

    Good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭ally1234


    Hi,please could someone tell me what topics appeared in the last sitting of property. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    ally1234 wrote: »
    Hi,please could someone tell me what topics appeared in the last sitting of property. Thank you.

    2 succession questions, one problem and one essay
    Adverse possession essay
    Easements
    Mortgages
    Treasure trove
    Co-ownership
    Can't remember the 8th question, think it was three parts and you chose two


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 clare2015


    Hi all would anyone have recent exam grids for eu and property please?☺


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Snakeydoogey


    STUPID QUESTION ALERT!!!!!!!!
    Is Ruth Cannons "Land Law" Book the best Nutshell to prepare for the Property exam? Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭detective


    Can someone please tell me if a person still only has five years to get a training contract after completion of the FE1s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    detective wrote: »
    Can someone please tell me if a person still only has five years to get a training contract after completion of the FE1s?

    Yep; five years from the 31st December of the year you pass your last exam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Yoop wrote: »
    Yep; five years from the 31st December of the year you pass your last exam.

    Is there a limit on how long you have to pass the exams? I passed my first three in March 2014. After taking a bit of break I now have two exams remaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭detective


    Yoop wrote: »
    Yep; five years from the 31st December of the year you pass your last exam.

    So technically once you start your first exams you have ten years to get a training course? As in you have five years to sit all your exams after your first three exams plus five years to get your training course after your last exam?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Is there a limit on how long you have to pass the exams? I passed my first three in March 2014. After taking a bit of break I now have two exams remaining.

    Five years as well - https://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/education/FE-1/fe1rules.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    detective wrote: »
    So technically once you start your first exams you have ten years to get a training course? As in you have five years to sit all your exams after your first three exams plus five years to get your training course after your last exam?

    Yep. Hopefully it won't take us that long though :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Bayb12


    Anyone who has got all 8 would you recommend doing company constitutional criminal or tort EU and criminal?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Flamingo125


    Could anybody send me an exam grid for contract by any chance please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    Hey.

    Anyone know what they are covering for propery? Was thinking of skipping the settled land acts topic? Any advice on topics that can be cut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    If you want to pass cut as few topics as possible

    I studied all the course and it allowed me to pass easily by avoiding all the tricky essay questions. I just did the problem questions as I could identify the cases easily.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    If you want to pass cut as few topics as possible

    I studied all the course and it allowed me to pass easily by avoiding all the tricky essay questions. I just did the problem questions as I could identify the cases easily.


    Ya i did that in my first set and got three but i failed contract so i have to do 5 in march. I am worried i wont be able to cover or remember everything. Had around 5 months study/prep the last time around and still struggled tbf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 623 ✭✭✭smeal


    How many people on here who failed Contract are considering getting a recheck?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    smeal wrote: »
    How many people on here who failed Contract are considering getting a recheck?

    I am getting my re checked. Thinl i would just regret it if i didnt. But tbf i am not hopeful it will change the result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Are people having equity rechecked?


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 irishasj


    Hi All,

    Well done to all those who passed and to those who didn't, keep on trying! It'll be worth it in the end.

    Does anyone have grids for Constitutional, Company and Property. Can exchange Tort, Contract and Equity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    Hey can anyone recommend courses for Company Eu and Constitutional. I have heard that city are good for Eu and Constitutional is that still the case?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Angela21


    Hi all

    Can anyone recommend courses for Company Constitutional and EU. Heard City are best for EU and Constitutional. Is that still the case?


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