FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Hunchback · 25-11-2016 11:07PM

Lawstudent007 wrote:

Last one passed, see you Red Cow #mikedrop

Until you get to Blackhall and sit the next set.....

Fe1r · 25-11-2016 11:57PM

Passed my last two. Still can't believe it's all over! Thanks to everyone for their help and advice on here. Best of luck to everyone. I'm proof they can be done! Blackhall here I come!

odwyer94 · 26-11-2016 01:53PM

I passed my first 4 (scraped it - got 50 in contract and property but a pass is a pass!). Thanks a million for all your help without which i definitely would have failed!

Rebelgirl87 · 26-11-2016 06:59PM

Out of curiosity has anyone rechecked a paper that they got a result of 32% & passed??

Hunchback · 26-11-2016 10:03PM

Rebelgirl87 wrote:

Out of curiosity has anyone rechecked a paper that they got a result of 32% & passed??

I have heard of outlier cases where marks lower than this have passed on review, but most prolly wouldn't.

Did you feel like you should have passed?

If I was very surprised and was sure I has passed, then I would get a recheck

Rebelgirl87 · 26-11-2016 10:10PM

Hunchback wrote: »

I have heard of outlier cases where marks lower than this have passed on review, but most prolly wouldn't.

Did you feel like you should have passed?

If I was very surprised and was sure I has passed, then I would get a recheck

I was surprised with that mark alright l taught l sat a really good paper but self doubt is creeping in now & lm not sure if l should recheck or if lm wasting my time!!!

Hunchback · 27-11-2016 12:05AM

Rebelgirl87 wrote:

I was surprised with that mark alright l taught l sat a really good paper but self doubt is creeping in now & lm not sure if l should recheck or if lm wasting my time!!!

I still regret not getting a particular exam rechecked - it was nearly twenty years ago (my leaving).

If you really believe that there is a chance you might pass......do it. What is it? 105 quid or something? It's not the end of the world.

Anticipate that the mark doesn't change (in which case you at least have closure), or, in the unlikely alternative, it does change and you get the pass mark.

As I said, if you REALLY have a strong sense that you did better, do it. If you are wrong, you are down around a hundred quid, but at least you can put it to bed and move forward

Rebelgirl87 · 27-11-2016 12:31AM

Hunchback wrote: »

I still regret not getting a particular exam rechecked - it was nearly twenty years ago (my leaving).

If you really believe that there is a chance you might pass......do it. What is it? 105 quid or something? It's not the end of the world.

Anticipate that the mark doesn't change (in which case you at least have closure), or, in the unlikely alternative, it does change and you get the pass mark.

As I said, if you REALLY have a strong sense that you did better, do it. If you are wrong, you are down around a hundred quid, but at least you can put it to bed and move forward

Thank you for talking it out!

monroe89 · 28-11-2016 11:37AM

Would someone mind sharing the actual link to the March timetable...I don't know whether I'm just being a little dense but I can't see it anywhere, please and thank you

Rebelgirl87 · 28-11-2016 11:59AM

monroe89 wrote: »

Would someone mind sharing the actual link to the March timetable...I don't know whether I'm just being a little dense but I can't see it anywhere, please and thank you

This should be the link to the application form which has the dates. Good luck.

https://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/education/FE-1/FE1-application-March2017.pdf

monroe89 · 28-11-2016 12:00PM

Thank you!

L124 · 28-11-2016 03:09PM

Hey,
I sat my first set in October - I only did three because with work and everything I didn't want to spread myself too thin.

Did quite well in two of them but got mid 30s in the last one. Law society said that the fail had been to the external on correction and if I appeal it will go to the same external marker so is there any point in me rechecking it? I know from talking to someone who got 48 in Equity before on their recheck were given a 47 so it doesn't seem like I would get anywhere and for 115€ I would probably be better just putting it towards the repeat.

If I do go ahead and just repeat the three (not something I want to do because I have actually passed and did well in two already) should I take a fourth subject? Can anyone recommend what fourth one to take?
I did Contract, Constitutional, Tort - and failed contract.

Any advice would be great- thanks!!

smeal · 28-11-2016 03:19PM

L124 wrote: »

Hey,
I sat my first set in October - I only did three because with work and everything I didn't want to spread myself too thin.

Did quite well in two of them but got mid 30s in the last one. Law society said that the fail had been to the external on correction and if I appeal it will go to the same external marker so is there any point in me rechecking it? I know from talking to someone who got 48 in Equity before on their recheck were given a 47 so it doesn't seem like I would get anywhere and for 115€ I would probably be better just putting it towards the repeat.

If I do go ahead and just repeat the three (not something I want to do because I have actually passed and did well in two already) should I take a fourth subject? Can anyone recommend what fourth one to take?
I did Contract, Constitutional, Tort - and failed contract.

Any advice would be great- thanks!!

Hi L124!

Can I just ask how you found out that an external examiner marked your paper? I also failed Contract for a second time and its my final exam.

A fourth subject should be fine if you have the majority of your notes done. I would go for property as a fourth as the work load is quite small compared to others and it has a very high pass rate.

L124 · 28-11-2016 03:28PM

smeal wrote: »

Hi L124!

Can I just ask how you found out that an external examiner marked your paper? I also failed Contract for a second time and its my final exam.

A fourth subject should be fine if you have the majority of your notes done. I would go for property as a fourth as the work load is quite small compared to others and it has a very high pass rate.

Hey,

Well I rang them Friday soon after I saw the results - was hoping there was some way I could hold onto my passes, needless to say I was a bit of a wreck. (It just doesn't seem fair that you have to redo exams that you have passed simply because you failed a completely separate exam?) So during the conversation I was told I can always recheck my paper and it would go to the external marker. I literally just asked if it was the same external that might have seen my paper and they said there's only one external marker so yes but they didn't know if the external saw my paper, but within seconds (I think my script must have been in front of them) said yes the external did review your paper.

My guess is the external sees all fails and if not then I have no idea why mine was reviewed. perhaps the initial marker sent it to the external with a question about something or what not.

I just can't imagine having seen my script they will say they were wrong and award the 14% to pass. I answered all 5 questions and did a (what I thought was) a fairly good stab at it as in I had legal authorities for my points.

Also - thank you for the tip re. property!

Redo91 · 28-11-2016 04:23PM

L124 wrote: »

Hey,

Well I rang them Friday soon after I saw the results - was hoping there was some way I could hold onto my passes, needless to say I was a bit of a wreck. (It just doesn't seem fair that you have to redo exams that you have passed simply because you failed a completely separate exam?) So during the conversation I was told I can always recheck my paper and it would go to the external marker. I literally just asked if it was the same external that might have seen my paper and they said there's only one external marker so yes but they didn't know if the external saw my paper, but within seconds (I think my script must have been in front of them) said yes the external did review your paper.

My guess is the external sees all fails and if not then I have no idea why mine was reviewed. perhaps the initial marker sent it to the external with a question about something or what not.

I just can't imagine having seen my script they will say they were wrong and award the 14% to pass. I answered all 5 questions and did a (what I thought was) a fairly good stab at it as in I had legal authorities for my points.

Also - thank you for the tip re. property!

If the external marker does indeed see all fails then I doubt he/she actually marks it. I mean otherwise no ones rechecks would go up.

L124 · 28-11-2016 06:16PM

Redo91 wrote: »

If the external marker does indeed see all fails then I doubt he/she actually marks it. I mean otherwise no ones rechecks would go up.

To be honest, I don't know the number of papers the external reviews upon the initial marking of the papers etc. All I am saying is that I have no idea why the external would look at a random 36% paper when the pass mark is 50%.the only justification I can find is that the external sees them all.
But of course, as you say, why then would anyone be brought up upon recheck.

My first time round sitting the FE1s so I am the least qualified person to answer any questions really.

hullaballoo · 28-11-2016 07:17PM

Exam marking is a very qualitative process and as such, many factors can have a bearing and lead to a "harsh" result. There isn't that much of a difference between 36% and 50% in terms of the marking of exams - the difference could be just a few marks per question, depending on how the marks are divided up.

If a mark is appealed, a fresh look is taken and I would think a concerted effort to be as objective as possible comes into play and this can result in those few marks being added here and there bringing it up to an overall pass.

chocchip12 · 28-11-2016 07:45PM

Hi guys congrats to all who passed! I failed equity with 43% and I'm debating getting it rechecked since I thought it was one of the better exams.

Does anyone know when the rechecks are done? It would be fairly useless to find out in February that I still failed it and had to repeat!

Thanks in advance!

L124 · 28-11-2016 07:48PM

chocchip12 wrote: »

Hi guys congrats to all who passed! I failed equity with 43% and I'm debating getting it rechecked since I thought it was one of the better exams.

Does anyone know when the rechecks are done? It would be fairly useless to find out in February that I still failed it and had to repeat!

Thanks in advance!

Hey

It says on the re-check application form that the (provisional) date of rechecked results would be 20th Jan. So you'd still have time then to apply for your repeat if you needed to.

nekk · 29-11-2016 05:41AM

Just passed the last of my FE1s. What's the next step does anybody know? What do I need to do now once I have found a training solicitor?

Leraf · 29-11-2016 10:46AM

nekk wrote: »

Just passed the last of my FE1s. What's the next step does anybody know? What do I need to do now once I have found a training solicitor?

From their site;

If you have passed the FE-1, please note that you must apply for consent to enter into indentures of apprenticeship within five years of 31 December 2016.

You should probably ring them.

Galwayfrench23 · 29-11-2016 10:48AM

Is anyone unhappy or shocked by their contract law result? I considered it one of my better ones and stil got in the mid 30's. thanks :-)

Leraf · 29-11-2016 10:51AM

Galwayfrench23 wrote: »

Is anyone unhappy or shocked by their contract law result? I considered it one of my better ones and stil got in the mid 30's. thanks :-)

I wouldn't say shocked exactly, I knew I didnt do fantastically in it but I was surprised my mark was only in the 30's, I did think my result would be somewhere in the 40's but just not enough to pass. I think it was very marked extremely hard this time round, not sure about any other years.

Yoop · 29-11-2016 04:54PM

Does anyone know if we're allowed to apply online for the next sitting? Last time the link was directly below the results but the option doesn't seem to be available now.

cup of tea · 29-11-2016 09:42PM

Anyone know what came up in equity last sitting?

Dr Ice · 30-11-2016 10:42AM

Also does anyone know where the exam timetable is? I know someone posted the dates up here a few days ago but I can't find a link to it on the site.

Redhighking · 30-11-2016 10:58AM

Dr Ice wrote: »

Also does anyone know where the exam timetable is? I know someone posted the dates up here a few days ago but I can't find a link to it on the site.

https://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/...-March2017.pdf

Angela21 · 30-11-2016 11:37AM

Hey does any have reasonably up to date grids they could send me? I am doing EU, Constitutional, Property and Company. ? I am willing to Trade notes?

Gunslinger92 · 30-11-2016 12:37PM

cup of tea wrote: »

Anyone know what came up in equity last sitting?

I'll check the exam paper when I get a chance but off the top of my head:

- Injunctions (think it was Quia timet but I didn't answer that question so could be wrong)
- Proprietary estoppel
- Specific performance (it was a question on how the courts deal with SP of contracts to build or repair / personal services, one or the other)
- Undue influence
- Charitable trusts
- I think rectification was on it

I can't remember the rest :pac:

Peekaboodles · 30-11-2016 03:55PM

Hi guys,

I'm new to this thread and Fe1 study in general as I am preparing to sit my first set of exams in March,if there is anywhere I should be looking for general information in this thread about guides for studying/ tips etc please let me know.

I have just returned from working in the States and am going to be treating studying for these exams like a full time job for the first lot of them, before working full time after that.
I was wondering what exams and how many of them you would recommend sitting seeing as I have a couple of months to study for these first ones, whilst I will be more than likely working full time for the second lot?

I am looking to sit at least four, possibly five, I am not hugely competent or confident in exam settings and have a tendency to choke sometimes so do not want to push myself too hard.
Thanks so much, sorry if I am asking the same question as every other person!

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