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The Hard Shoulder with Ivan Yates (interregnum)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Aska


    withless wrote:
    Who was that dopey doctor who was on this evening discussing the health issues?


    Didn't hear tonights show but was she an american wan? Kara or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Aska wrote: »
    Didn't hear tonights show but was she an american wan? Kara or something

    Cara is the lady who Yates has on every week to feign interest in environmental issues.

    http://www.caraaugustenborg.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    withless wrote: »
    Who was that dopey doctor who was on this evening discussing the health issues?

    Babe Ruth wouldn't hold a candle to him ( with all the batting he did for nurses)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    A nurse on arguing with Yates that they don't get a fair shout in the media. He's not doing himself any favours either with his attempts at explaining the shifts he works i.e. 13 days a month of 13 hours a shift


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,226 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    jay0109 wrote: »
    A nurse on arguing with Yates that they don't get a fair shout in the media. He's not doing himself any favours either with his attempts at explaining the shifts he works i.e. 13 days a month of 13 hours a shift

    And apparently there was 5, nearly 6 weeks in January according to the murse.

    When I did the "30 days has September" rhyme in my head, I didnt get to the bit where it said "All the rest have 31 expect January which has somewhere between 35 and 42".


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BPKS wrote: »
    And apparently there was 5, nearly 6 weeks in January according to the murse.

    When I did the "30 days has September" rhyme in my head, I didnt get to the bit where it said "All the rest have 31 expect January which has somewhere between 35 and 42".
    30 days has Sepember,
    April, June and November
    All the rest have 31.
    Except for January.

    January has 35
    All depends on the public purse,
    According to a Gard, a Nurse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Ivan letting Edwina Currie run rings around him again spouting absolute nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Ivan letting Edwina Currie run rings around him again spouting absolute nonsense.

    Pat Kenny is the only one who can keep that one anywhere near reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I thought he handled the interview with the lady with Motor Neurone Disease quite well.
    Such a horrendous disease.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ivan Yates going through Cllr Daithi Doolan (SF) for a shortcut now, regarding their hypocrisy on the property tax whilst claiming to be socialists.

    Ivan's dead right.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Ivan Yates going through Cllr Daithi Doolan (SF) for a shortcut now, regarding their hypocrisy on the property tax whilst claiming to be socialists.

    Ivan's dead right.

    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Uncharted wrote: »
    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.

    Bit like Yates so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Bit like Yates so.

    He was the 5th youngest member of all time elected to Dail Eireann, he was a government minister, he operated a nationwide chain of bookies before it ultimately failed, and he has proven to be a highly popular radio host.

    He has walked a lot of walks in fairness to him. (But yes, he does like to use soundbites from time to time)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    He was the 5th youngest member of all time elected to Dail Eireann, he was a government minister, he operated a nationwide chain of bookies before it ultimately failed, and he has proven to be a highly popular radio host.

    He has walked a lot of walks in fairness to him. (But yes, he does like to use soundbites from time to time)

    He's a fcuking dose. When he worked with donoghue on the breakfast show, they bounced off each other. On his own, he's too much.

    By the way, not sure if he meant to let it slip so much but last week, he mentioned how his last 2 car purchases between 30 - 40k were made from bets on horses. How much money would you have to be laying down to win those amounts..?? A few grand I would say.....this from a guy who took off to the UK to declare himself bankrupt..


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.
    He was suggesting instead a wealth tax on the assets like private airplanes... Thing about airplanes, Dáithí, they're quite mobile.

    And even if you tried to impose a tax on wealth outside the country, that's fraught with difficulty. Even Denis O'Brien is registered for tax as a Malteser.


  • Site Banned Posts: 160 ✭✭dermo888


    UsBus wrote: »
    He's a fcuking dose. When he worked with donoghue on the breakfast show, they bounced off each other. On his own, he's too much.

    By the way, not sure if he meant to let it slip so much but last week, he mentioned how his last 2 car purchases between 30 - 40k were made from bets on horses. How much money would you have to be laying down to win those amounts..?? A few grand I would say.....this from a guy who took off to the UK to declare himself bankrupt..

    He went to the UK to declare himself bankrupt because at the time, Irish Bankruptcy laws were draconian. Would'nt you do it in his circumstances?

    As for how much you'd have to be laying down, he still has a bookmakers licence, and to take that kind of money, its impossible to say, beyond this, he knows the game inside out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    He was suggesting instead a wealth tax on the assets like private airplanes... Thing about airplanes, Dáithí, they're quite mobile.

    And even if you tried to impose a tax on wealth outside the country, that's fraught with difficulty. Even Denis O'Brien is registered for tax as a Malteser.



    Wealth taxes only work on people who aren't quite wealthy enough to have advisors ' arrange their affairs elsewhere ' .


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Wealth taxes only work on people who aren't quite wealthy enough to have advisors ' arrange their affairs elsewhere ' .
    I think they can work depending on how robust is the finance legislation in a particular jurisdiction.

    But after decades of enabling (or at least being ambivalent towards) tax avoidance by high-income earners, our legislation would need a massive overhaul to cope with any meaningful wealth tax.

    And in doing so, we might only be shooting off our nose to spite our face. The fundamental design of our economy would need to change too, to be less at risk of capital flight.

    One thing that will work, however, is to tax property. There is no reasonable justification for any so-caglled socialist to oppose this, especially when there are safeguards built in for the poorest home-owners (which there are).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    I think they can work depending on how robust is the finance legislation in a particular jurisdiction.

    But after decades of enabling (or at least being ambivalent towards) tax avoidance by high-income earners, our legislation would need a massive overhaul to cope with any meaningful wealth tax.

    And in doing so, we might only be shooting off our nose to spite our face. The fundamental design of our economy would need to change too, to be less at risk of capital flight.

    One thing that will work, however, is to tax property. There is no reasonable justification for any so-caglled socialist to oppose this, especially when there are safeguards built in for the poorest home-owners (which there are).

    Paul Murphy on line 2 :pac:


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Paul Murphy on line 2 :pac:

    Don't get me started on Paul Murphy. In fact, I don't know why most of the so-called socialists in Dáil Éireann don't Just join Sinn Féin. They're totally indistinguishable, all more populist than socialist.

    Even Joe Higgins, whose socialist credentials can hardly be doubted, was prone to this sort of populist behaviour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Don't get me started on Paul Murphy. In fact, I don't know why most of the so-called socialists in Dáil Éireann don't Just join Sinn Féin. They're totally indistinguishable, all more populist than socialist.

    Even Joe Higgins, whose socialist credentials can hardly be doubted, was prone to this sort of populist behaviour.

    Couldn't agree more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Henry out doing his annual Ash Wednesday search for people with ashes on their forehead

    and now Ray Bassett on trying to rubbish the backstop. what a bollox.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Henry out doing his annual Ash Wednesday search for people with ashes on their forehead

    and now Ray Bassett on trying to rubbish the backstop. what a bollox.

    I got a good laugh at the part where Ivan mentioned that Henry met his future wife this day five years ago out doing his vox pops. Henry starts going in depth into the story and Ivan says something like "Ah yeah, look I didn't ask for your life story!" and cuts him off. Henry took it quite well. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    God hes an awful presenter, granted I'd disagree with him on most issues given his staunchly right wing views but I'd find him a valuable contributor nonetheless. But hes shocking bad as a presenter and should really stick to the other side of the microphone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I didn't think he was that bad. I've heard worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    terrydel wrote: »
    God hes an awful presenter, granted I'd disagree with him on most issues given his staunchly right wing views but I'd find him a valuable contributor nonetheless. But hes shocking bad as a presenter and should really stick to the other side of the microphone.

    He has tourettes, might effect delivery?

    I'm a big fan of his


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Tinley Noisy Tombstone


    Better than Susan "is coffee too hot" or "is this sexist" Keogh....(yes she did segments relating to this when hosting). The show was a radio version of loose women for a while there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Better than Susan "is coffee too hot" or "is this sexist" Keogh....(yes she did segments relating to this when hosting). The show was a radio version of loose women for a while there

    Who decides on content? The producer or the presenter or both? Always wondered about that when a stand-in is presenting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Tinley Noisy Tombstone


    amcalester wrote: »
    Who decides on content? The producer or the presenter or both? Always wondered about that when a stand-in is presenting.


    if I remember rightly he got a new producer about 2/3 years back (long term one left) and the show and Cooper seemed to have taken a new direction, (more celeb crap/shrill offended people keep appearing/the times ban)...wondering who decided to change, as cooper was for a time the best interviewer and took no prisoners.....now its just a show for the sjw brigade and tiresome Trump whinging...I wouldn't be surprised if it was a combination as more celeb and 3rd wave feminist nonsense came on the show when Susan was on, another one was mansplaining and manspreading on public transport were brought up when she wwas on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,001 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    He is strident. Was on PK or Sean o R or something during the week about housing.

    Said his brother could get planning in Arkansas within a week and no objections. Yep. One week and get the diggers in.

    That is fine if there is a global County Plan or something.

    I kind of agree with him that the time from purchase to moving in is ridiculous here. But anyway. We all have rights, as do those in the good ole US of A too. Why is it so different there (if he is correct). Must be something to do with the availability of land mass or something.


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Threads merged


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    terrydel wrote: »
    God hes an awful presenter, granted I'd disagree with him on most issues given his staunchly right wing views but I'd find him a valuable contributor nonetheless. But hes shocking bad as a presenter and should really stick to the other side of the microphone.

    What are his right wing views?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    What are his right wing views?

    I think his support for repossessions of houses from those that have'nt paid a cent in year and years upsets a lot of people in this country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭bot43


    He is unreal. Flicked on by accident earlier as he was introducing a guest who was on to big up reading. Ivan opens with “So you must have been a real book nerd growing up then”. The guest professionally replied with “I have always enjoyed reading.......etc”

    Yates is a boorish abhorrent tool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    bot43 wrote: »
    He is unreal. Flicked on by accident earlier as he was introducing a guest who was on to big up reading. Ivan opens with “So you must have been a real book nerd growing up then”. The guest professionally replied with “I have always enjoyed reading.......etc”

    Yates is a boorish abhorrent tool.

    I think he plays the part in this way. He is somewhat provocative or...gamey.

    He gives the environmental lady the same accusations about being a lovey-dovey hippy whenever she is on. I think it's an act.

    I did laugh at his comment to Henry McKean when I heard it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    bot43 wrote: »
    He is unreal. Flicked on by accident earlier as he was introducing a guest who was on to big up reading. Ivan opens with “So you must have been a real book nerd growing up then”. The guest professionally replied with “I have always enjoyed reading.......etc”

    Yates is a boorish abhorrent tool.

    Ah, it's part of his persona. He lives up to it and I am sure his guests know this too.

    They all play the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭bot43


    I cant listen to him tbh. He overly alpha persona I find annoying beyond belief.

    What did he say to McKean (someone else who makes me turn the channel)?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    bot43 wrote: »
    I cant listen to him tbh. He overly alpha persona I find annoying beyond belief.

    What did he say to McKean (someone else who makes me turn the channel)?

    I will quote my own post from a few pages back but it might be this...
    mzungu wrote:
    ....Ivan mentioned that Henry met his future wife this day five years ago out doing his vox pops. Henry starts going in depth into the story and Ivan says something like "Ah yeah, look I didn't ask for your life story!" and cuts him off. Henry took it quite well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    I feel Phil Thompson could always contribute more. Ivan runs him after a couple of minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭withless


    I don't listen to a lot of Ivan but he's not the worst. At least you should be able to determine there is a mind at work which you can with him unlike most other radio 'persons who sit at the mike'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Azatadine wrote: »
    I feel Phil Thompson could always contribute more. Ivan runs him after a couple of minutes.

    Every week it seems to go the same way. Ivan slags Phil about Liverpool going to bottle the league, Phil laughs and says we'll just have to wait and see and Ivan says he's looking forward to hearing Blue Moon played in the Etihad at the end of the season trophy ceremony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yeah, same thing all the time. I know Ivan has very little knowledge on soccer but it seems a bit pointless to me. Thompson is a high profile contributor so I'm surprised they don't make more of it. Seems like a waste of an opportunity (for the record, I'm not a pool fan).


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Sport is big news these days. If Ivan wasn't covering it listeners may switch the dial elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Advert for today's show: "with the ISIS bride controversy David Quinn asks would a Catholic receive the same compassion"

    Jesus that sounds tedious, more of the oppressed Catholic nonsense. Thankfully I'm heading to the pub to watch the races, you'd need a few on board to listen to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,951 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Ivan off today, partly guessed he would with the racing today and the rugby tomorrow !!

    But Jonathon Healy is in instead of him. He is like if Mat Cooper and Ray D'arcy had a love child. Painful listening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Ivan off today, partly guessed he would with the racing today and the rugby tomorrow !!

    But Jonathon Healy is in instead of him. He is like if Mat Cooper and Ray D'arcy had a love child. Painful listening

    Didn't hear him properly did he say he saw more girls at the protest, so boys must care less about the environment?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I heard him say that more girls had attended than boys had; I didn't hear him drawing any conclusion from that.

    It's not very surprising is it? It's already heavily implied from Leaving Cert statistics that girls mature earlier than boys do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Pompous gobsh1te on talking about going to church and faith.

    No, not Ivan. David Norris.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Pompous gobsh1te on talking about going to church and faith.

    No, not Ivan. David Norris.

    So Norris is back from his taxpayer funded holiday (Celebrity Globetrotters) and finding time from his taxpayer funded income (the Seanad and Trinity pension) to appear on the national airwaves. Aren't we blessed!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭plodder


    Have started listening to Newstalk a bit lately and I find it a good antidote to RTE 1. But, this evening's 'Hard Shoulder' was the funniest bit of banter I've heard on the radio in a long time with Niamh Horan, Yates, and a couple of chaps whose names I don't recall.


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