loftus hall

solarplexus · 04-09-2014 10:27pm

Hi All,
Myself and my partner visited Loftus Hall last year and I have to say it is an amazing place... I didn't see anything on that occasion

But last month my sister and her hubby and the kids went to Loftus Hall and did the tour... When they were in the Chapel room my 7 year old niece said she say a man, in dark clothing, layered clothing walk along the wall and then disappear... she didnt say anything until she got home but then her dad admitted to seeing the same thing. So I asked them to draw what they had each seen and they drew the same drawing of the man...... looked perhaps like a priest...

Milly33 · 05-09-2014 1:32pm

solarplexus wrote: »

Hi All,
Myself and my partner visited Loftus Hall last year and I have to say it is an amazing place... I didn't see anything on that occasion

But last month my sister and her hubby and the kids went to Loftus Hall and did the tour... When they were in the Chapel room my 7 year old niece said she say a man, in dark clothing, layered clothing walk along the wall and then disappear... she didnt say anything until she got home but then her dad admitted to seeing the same thing. So I asked them to draw what they had each seen and they drew the same drawing of the man...... looked perhaps like a priest...

Love hearing all the stories. Shame ye didn't get to see anything.. I think twas more nuns were in the hall but sure maybe they had a priest visit the odd time!! :eek: Yeah I have noticed there is lots of Publicity things on with Loftus spotted a pic there in the Irish examiner too. But sure what harm still love the place

Not2Good · 05-09-2014 5:34pm

Agree totally, especially when looking at the same'quality' reflection of the other person..

Oryx wrote: »

Its a reflection. There's the reflection of another person's head below the girl and you can see the top of their actual head just at the edge of the frame.

They'd make a story out of anything.

The Royal Scam · 29-09-2014 1:03pm

I did the tour about 4 weeks ago, there was a little girl about 3, her big sister and her mother on the tour. The kids were not really suitably aged and the mother spent most of the time herding them. After we were in the girls bedroom something very dramatic happened.
The mother had the 3 year old in here arms and she started looking up the staircase landing and pointing really weirdly , hard to explain but strangely slowly and saying "man.....man.... Dave.....".
The mother was genuinely spooked as she was saying the both she and the little girl did not know any Daves..! Our guide didnt make any connection but after we got back to after the tour and another member of staff said there was a Dave found hanged at the house a few years ago.

maccored · 29-09-2014 1:11pm

The Royal Scam wrote: »

another member of staff said there was a Dave found hanged at the house a few years ago.

Can't seem to find any news reports about that. What puts me off Loftus Hall and its ghosts is the fact that they seem very interested in changing the history of the place to suit the ghost stories.

mac.the.hat · 29-09-2014 8:19pm

The original house was knocked to the ground in 1870 and the present building was completed in 1871. The present building was built close to Redmonds Hall (the original building) but not in the same location. This is documented in a number of places, by a number of authors and official bodies and the reports all correlate. Anne Tottenham's room was in the original Redmonds Hall building and it's location in the building was documented. Anne never had a room in the present building because it did not exist when she was alive. Anne died on November 9th, 1775 and she was buried in the vault at St Mogue's Church in Fethard-on-Sea.

Having completed incredibly detailed research on Loftus Hall, there was never any record of a "Dave" having been found hanged there. This therefore is a figment of somebody's imagination. The last unusual occurrence was an accident at the private beach in 1901 where a local young man was drowned in a swimming accident and his name was very definitely not Dave.

As to the previous post about the man in dark clothing, were you not made aware that there are projectors installed in the building?

These days, Loftus Hall is a multimedia experience and little more than a circus.

maccored · 29-09-2014 8:40pm

I think they've changed the loftus hall wiki page to say something like it wasnt demolished, merely renovated. pretty thorough renovation.

In fact it says:

The building that exists today was not built between 1870 and 1871 as many people believe. The Hall was in fact renovated extentively before a visit by Queen Victoria.

'extentively' is their word. I would have said 'extensively' myself.

mac.the.hat · 29-09-2014 10:57pm

maccored wrote: »

I think they've changed the loftus hall wiki page to say something like it wasnt demolished, merely renovated. pretty thorough renovation.

In fact it says:

'extentively' is their word. I would have said 'extensively' myself.

Doesn't add up. Queen Victoria visited Ireland 4 times, in 1849, 1853, 1861 and 1900

Oryx · 30-09-2014 10:56am

mac.the.hat wrote: »

Doesn't add up. Queen Victoria visited Ireland 4 times, in 1849, 1853, 1861 and 1900

On the tour I took, the guide said she was supposed to come, but didnt.

maccored · 30-09-2014 12:19pm

Oryx wrote: »

On the tour I took, the guide said she was supposed to come, but didnt.

intriguing. they should change their wiki once more to say "The Hall was in fact renovated extentively before a visit by Queen Victoria - but the fecker never showed."

The paranormal field is bad enough without places like loftus hall purposely misleading people.

mac.the.hat · 30-09-2014 12:45pm

Oryx wrote: »

On the tour I took, the guide said she was supposed to come, but didnt.

LOL Oryx ...and you were supposed to swallow it hook, line and sinker but you didn't.

The whole place is nothing but a joke. From what I can see, they're making up the story as they go along. As a building, fantastic place! As a multimedia experience, possibly! As a location of paranormal interest, definitely not!

I fail to understand why people will pay money to be spun stories that have no historical basis and are quite obviously (based on the evidence) made up to suit the occasion. Now that's scary!

Oryx · 30-09-2014 12:56pm

Sure they even say one of the ground floor reception rooms was a bedroom.

mac.the.hat · 30-09-2014 1:16pm

Oryx wrote: »

Sure they even say one of the ground floor reception rooms was a bedroom.

In the present building which was completed in 1871, that was by all accounts the "Morning Room" of John Henry Graham Wellington Loftus, the 4th Marquess of Ely.

The Tapestry Room was in the original Redmonds Hall building (which subsequently became known as Loftus Hall) and was on the first floor to the front of the building. It was also used to provide accomodation for visitors when the need arose and it has been suggested that it may have become Anne's room at one point but there doesn't appear to be a lot of evidence to back this up.

mickmackey1 · 30-09-2014 2:21pm

Here's a spooky account of piracy near Loftus Hall from the Leeds Intelligencer of 1762; maybe Miss Tottenham's mysterious stranger disembarked from this vessel :cool:

The Royal Scam · 30-09-2014 11:21pm

Im really sorry, it seems like I got my facts badly incorrect. The name was not Dave , it was Micheal. It was the name of the last owner and nothing about a hanging. My wife is really having a good laugh at my overactive and forgetful imagination. Sorry

childsplay · 27-06-2016 5:29pm

I was on the tour of the house only this weekend and found the house eerie but interesting. The tour guide was very tongue in cheek about the whole haunting thing. However, he did mention that the current owners had found something like 56 holy statues all missing their heads. Having read this thread through, nobody has mentioned this before and I am wondering if anyone knows anything of the veracity of this claim?

Caoimhgh1n · 01-07-2016 11:41pm

childsplay wrote: »

I was on the tour of the house only this weekend and found the house eerie but interesting. The tour guide was very tongue in cheek about the whole haunting thing. However, he did mention that the current owners had found something like 56 holy statues all missing their heads. Having read this thread through, nobody has mentioned this before and I am wondering if anyone knows anything of the veracity of this claim?

I heard about the statues missing their heads too. Not sure how true it is either.

Stealthfins · 03-07-2016 8:27am

Year's ago ceramic holy statues had bigger than average heads,when they would topple over sometimes the head would crack off.
They wouldn't discard the statues,they would hold onto them.

childsplay · 03-07-2016 9:28am

Stealthfins wrote:

Year's ago ceramic holy statues had bigger than average heads,when they would topple over sometimes the head would crack off. They wouldn't discard the statues,they would hold onto them.

That makes sense. I remember my Mother having statues of the holy family and the heads did break off. The neck would be the weak point because they're thinner.

byhookorbycrook · 03-07-2016 10:12pm

When I was in it when it was a pub/hotel, there were very few statues in the place-some were scattered around the back of the bar but that was it. The mosaic floor in the entrance hall was supposed to have been done by Italian craftsmen who then had their hands chopped off to prevent them replicating the floor elsewhere. Again,no basis for this in fact. Look, I don't begrudge the owners who bought the place and saved it, from making money off it, but I do object to makey-uppy stuff!

Charlotte_T · 19-11-2017 8:45pm

Hi all, there will be a book coming out on the history of the Hall very soon which attempts to disclose the whole story also from a paranormal angle. The book has been written by Helena B. Scott (a medium and writer of history/Gothic genre) and features the work of photographer Steve Meyler (former head of forensic photography with Scotland Yard and the London Met. Police) whose work can also be seen in a permanent exhibition at Loftus Hall. For more info check out Helena B. Scott on Facebook

lfcsean101 · 20-09-2018 11:58am

Does anyone know what happened to the former owner Mrs Deveraux ?i presume she is dead now but quiet strange she never said anything about the place ?

Ziycon · 21-09-2018 1:22pm

lfcsean101 wrote: »

Does anyone know what happened to the former owner Mrs Deveraux ?i presume she is dead now but quiet strange she never said anything about the place ?

Kay Deveraux moved to London after selling up, last I heard she was still alive in London in 2013 but haven't looked much into her so not sure if shes still alove or not.

There were supposedly constant goings on when the Deveraux's lived there, Mr Deveraux passed away while living there and eventually it's said that Kay Deveraux left in a hurry due to 'being forced out' by something, leaving clothes and belongings behind, not sure how true this is or if it's another story fabricated to keep the mystic around the property.

It was widely known about the 'ghostly going ons' when the Deveraux's ran the place as a hotel, it was one of the allures of the place that attracted people.

Maybe Kay Deveraux didn't want to talk personally about what went on either out of fear or possibly out of not wanting to damage the mystic of the property and in turn accidently affect the numbers of people that flocked there to stay over and have an experience when it was a hotel.

jennie27 · 21-09-2018 1:38pm

I don't know I tried to find her I have a letter written to Tommy who I think is micheals brother from a Louise in dollis hill london it's addressed to loftus hall hotel would love to return it

24-09-2018 3:27pm

Kay Deveruex has passed away. Not sure when though.

27-09-2018 10:33am

Deleted User wrote: »

Kay Deveruex has passed away. Not sure when though.

Werewolf

enniscorthy · 05-10-2018 5:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Kay Deveruex has passed away. Not sure when though.

RIP

Kamili · 05-10-2018 6:41pm

Heard an ad on the radio for Ireland's anchient east with Loftus hall included in it earlier

Wanderer2010 · 20-10-2018 3:47pm

Anyone with a logical mind can see the whole devil and card game thing was clearly a smokescreen for explaining the pregnancy of a young woman, the murder of her baby and then locking her up in a room for years. But having been down there a few times, the whole energy of the place is incredibly skewed and there is a horrible atmosphere, particularly down that long corridor at the end of the tour.

Its like the building has absorbed every bad thing, memory and feeling that even occurred under its roof and is now spitting it back. I don't believe there is a demonic presence down there and all these ghost tours and the paranormal stays down there is nothing but a cash cow but I sure as hell would never spend a night alone there myself.

Ziycon · 20-10-2018 11:53pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Anyone with a logical mind can see the whole devil and card game thing was clearly a smokescreen for explaining the pregnancy of a young woman, the murder of her baby and then locking her up in a room for years. But having been down there a few times, the whole energy of the place is incredibly skewed and there is a horrible atmosphere, particularly down that long corridor at the end of the tour.

Its like the building has absorbed every bad thing, memory and feeling that even occurred under its roof and is now spitting it back. I don't believe there is a demonic presence down there and all these ghost tours and the paranormal stays down there is nothing but a cash cow but I sure as hell would never spend a night alone there myself.

Slight tangent here but I've always found it very interesting the way people associate an assumed enegry with a location once you know the history. What if you knew nothing about the house or corridor, and had a feeling there, would you even notice that feeling let alone make it stop you spending the night there.

I guarantee you've been many places in your day to day life were someone passed away but you just never knew about it, hotels, house you bought or rented, bus you sit on, stadium you watch your favorite sports at etc.

Death is all around you, don't let a story put you off going or staying somewhere.

maccored · 24-10-2018 1:49pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Anyone with a logical mind can see the whole devil and card game thing was clearly a smokescreen for explaining the pregnancy of a young woman, the murder of her baby and then locking her up in a room for years. But having been down there a few times, the whole energy of the place is incredibly skewed and there is a horrible atmosphere, particularly down that long corridor at the end of the tour.

Its like the building has absorbed every bad thing, memory and feeling that even occurred under its roof and is now spitting it back. I don't believe there is a demonic presence down there and all these ghost tours and the paranormal stays down there is nothing but a cash cow but I sure as hell would never spend a night alone there myself.

hasnt the hellfire club got exactly the same story? nevermind, it was Redmond hall and not loftus hall

maccored · 24-10-2018 1:50pm

Ziycon wrote: »

I guarantee you've been many places in your day to day life were someone passed away but you just never knew about it, hotels, house you bought or rented, bus you sit on, stadium you watch your favorite sports at etc.

totally agree - in fact with the age of the earth theres a good chance that someone has died or been buried virtually everywhere within our living environment

CH1123581321 · 02-08-2019 10:34am

https://youtu.be/ltIcW2xMuzs

A movie called "The Lodgers" that was filmed in Loftus Hall was released on Netflix in 2018.

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