Digital ID's for everyone

Clarence Boddiker · 19-03-2020 6:10pm #1

Bill Gates referring to digital ID microchipping on an AMA in Reddit

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-03-2020 6:30pm

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Bill Gates referring to digital ID microchipping on an AMA in Reddit

Lol, wheres the proof that's Gates talking? Also where does he use the words "digital ID microchipping"?

Dohnjoe · 19-03-2020 6:38pm

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Bill Gates referring to digital ID microchipping on an AMA in Reddit

I like how he suggests digital certificates and some anti-vax poster suggests that he is directly referring to mandatory microchips and as such the conspiracy community blows up (as always) with the usual hysteria that the nefarious powers that be are trying to microchip people for fiendish reasons

King Mob · 19-03-2020 6:55pm

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Bill Gates referring to digital ID microchipping on an AMA in Reddit

That's simply not true.
It's clear from your picture that the only one referring to microchips is some rando on reddit who jumps to that conclusion,

The ID2020 thing that keeps getting referenced has nothing to do with microchips and the connection is likewise is the result of conspiracy theorists jumping to conclusions.

TheRepentent · 19-03-2020 7:00pm

King Mob wrote: »

That's simply not true.
......is the result of conspiracy theorists jumping to conclusions.

Colour me surprised

Clarence Boddiker · 19-03-2020 7:07pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Lol, wheres the proof that's Gates talking? Also where does he use the words "digital ID microchipping"?

It was him on Reddit

Clarence Boddiker · 19-03-2020 7:09pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I like how he suggests digital certificates and some anti-vax poster suggests that he is directly referring to mandatory microchips and as such the conspiracy community blows up (as always) with the usual hysteria that the nefarious powers that be are trying to microchip people for fiendish reasons

Anti Vax? Thats a big assumption from you there. An incorrect assumption.

Dohnjoe · 19-03-2020 7:23pm

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

I mean all you have to do is look at the ID2020 website and its spelled out as clear as day that there is a desire, to create a digital ID for everyone.

Yeah.

Except that certain individuals decide that this project plans to microchip people against their will for nefarious reasons.

Context is important.

Joshua J · 19-03-2020 7:57pm

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

What kind of CT forum is this?

Is this not the place to discuss conspiracy related material?

Yet as soon as someone tries to have a discussion several posters jump on top of posters, with some aggression I might add.

I mean all you have to do is look at the ID2020 website and its spelled out as clear as day that there is a desire, to create a digital ID for everyone.

It's a weird one alright. It's one of the only forums on this site where people who despise the subject matter and the people who discuss it, have free reign. The adversarial nature of this forum would not be tolerated anywhere else. I would just ignore them tbh.

4068ac1elhodqr · 19-03-2020 9:21pm

Agenda 21 and www.id2020.org are focused on a program of *persistant, unique, new, portable, birth-to-death biometric, digital ID*
This is laid out as clear as day on their website.

If you asked a copywriter to write web-copy for a future microchip implant program (via vaccine, or similar/additional insertion at birth),
but importantly not to actually mention the exact words of' chip implant' (clearly this would spook people),
- then you'd the website and exact contents of what is known as id2020.org.

The founders/sponsors/partners are: https://id2020.org/alliance
MSoft (ex-BillyGates, where hardware, software and microchip dreams are made)
Rockerfellas (perhaps the most powerful and wealthiest family of the last century)
Gabi (vaccine delivery to the wee childers in the developing world).
Ideo (Service design consultants mass ID registrations of national DigitalIDs)

Other partners are experts in Blockchain and biometric technologies.
Not for the West though (yet), only the 1.5bn poorest of the world, and not until 2030.
Longer term 2035 might the timeline for the other billions, after proof of concept.

King Mob · 20-03-2020 2:14am

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Agenda 21 and www.id2020.org are focused on a program of *persistant, unique, new, portable, birth-to-death biometric, digital ID*
This is laid out as clear as day on their website.

If you asked a copywriter to write web-copy for a future microchip implant program (via vaccine, or similar/additional insertion at birth),
but importantly not to actually mention the exact words of' chip implant' (clearly this would spook people),
- then you'd the website and exact contents of what is known as id2020.org.

But Agenda 21 doesn't have anything to do with digital ID at all.
And neither mention or talk about any kind of mircochip at all.

"Persistant, unique, new, portable, birth-to-death biometric, digital ID" does not equal mircochips.
That is something that is being misconstrued by conspiracy theorists who then leap to silly conclusions about it being implanted by vaccine.
Often this has a root in the notion of the "mark of the beast" which is also very silly.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 4:20pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You also forgot ID2020, Gates and the Rockefellers

Actually you forgot Gavi and Microsoft along with the Rockerfellers and Billy Gates, and a few more second level technology-meets-vaccine wetdream folks.

Who are also one of the main sponsors of the www.id2020.org program.
The Gavi CEO was only on the Euronews a few hours ago, banging on about potential 'future platforms' for the Coronavirus vaccine delivery.
https://id2020.org/alliance

Is as clear as day to their mission objectives, thus there is no conspiracy. Only a conspiracy to deflect (see last 3 pages).

Birth-to-death, persistant, portable, digital, blockchain next gen biometric ID.
This can't be done with a photoID card (they reject this form of national id).

Any other ideas how this, will be rolled out.
e.g. (at)birth-to-death persistant, digital persistant and portable?
You can exclude iris and fingerprinting btw.

King Mob · 24-03-2020 4:25pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Is as clear as day to their mission objectives, thus there is no conspiracy. Only a conspiracy to deflect (see last 3 pages).
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Clear as day, yet doesn't actually say any of the stuff you claim.

You can exclude iris and fingerprinting btw.

Why? That's what biometrics is...

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 4:32pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Actually you forgot Gavi and Microsoft along with the Rockerfellers and Billy Gates, and a few more second level technology-meets-vaccine wetdream folks.

Who are also one of the main sponsors of the www.id2020.org program.
The Gavi CEO was only on the Euronews a few hours ago, banging on about potential 'future platforms' for the Coronavirus vaccine delivery.
https://id2020.org/alliance

Is as clear as day to their mission objectives, thus there is no conspiracy. Only a conspiracy to deflect (see last 3 pages).

Birth-to-death, persistant, portable, digital, blockchain next gen biometric ID.
This can't be done with a photoID card (they reject this form of national id).

Any other ideas how this, will be rolled out.
e.g. (at)birth-to-death persistant, digital persistant and portable?
You can exclude iris and fingerprinting btw.

Sounds like a good project: giving some form of digital ID to people who have no access to ID

What's the link to this virus again?

I bet I can create a more embellished tenuous link than you can

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 4:32pm

King Mob wrote: »

Clear as day, yet doesn't actually say any of the stuff you claim.

Provide an example of type of digital ID that meets their specific needs.

King Mob wrote: »

Why? That's what biometrics is...

Those two methods are invalid forms from their base requirement of 'birth to death' biometrics. Fingerprinting a newborn? Catch yourself on, that hardly a 'persistant' reliable form, when accounting for changes from growth.

Next you'll be suggesting a facial scan, that can be recalled and used 30yrs later.

ohnonotgmail · 24-03-2020 4:46pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Provide an example of type of digital ID that meets their specific needs.

Those two methods are invalid forms from their base requirement of 'birth to death' biometrics. Fingerprinting a newborn? Catch yourself on, that hardly a 'persistant' reliable form, when accounting for changes from growth.

Next you'll be suggesting a facial scan, that can be recalled and used 30yrs later.

and the issue with iris recognitions is? It seems to be something that they are working on. http://www.id4africa.com/2019_event/presentations/InF15/2-Yaseen-Moolla-CSIR.pdf

and if it is not any of the above what are you suggesting they intend to use?

King Mob · 24-03-2020 4:46pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Provide an example of type of digital ID that meets their specific needs.

Provide a single scrap of evidence for your claims about mircochips.
Provide a single instance of the people you are accusing ever directly stating they plan to use microchips.
Provide an example of a microchip that can meet their specific needs.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Those two methods are invalid forms from their base requirement of 'birth to death' biometrics. Fingerprinting a newborn? Catch yourself on, that hardly a 'persistant' reliable form, when accounting for changes from growth.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/fingerprints-change-over-the-course-of-a-persons-life

However, at 12 years (the longest this study investigated), the error rate was still within the normal margins of error for such machines in real-life, unless one of the prints was of poor quality. And regardless of age or elapsed time, the machines didn’t confuse one person’s prints with another person’s — kind of a big deal if you’re standing trial. The study was published Monday in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
This study seems to indicate that, yes, our fingerprints do morph over time. But those slight changes aren’t enough to befuddle the machines in use today, for the most part. More research will need to be done to answer the question of how many years must elapse between prints for the machines to miss the match.

As was pointed out above, iris recognition is also a possibility. Or it could be other methods or a combination of several with more advanced technology and infrastructure to allow for more persistence and accuracy than we have today.

Now, in your world, why do they say biometrics in all their material if it's impossible to use for their purposes?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 4:47pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Sounds like a good project: giving some form of digital ID to people who have no access to ID

What's the link to this virus again?

Perhaps, can also result in the 'entire denial of all and any services' with ease.

The link? You mean you aren't yet aware that it's (https://id2020.org/digital-identity) a joint vaccine distribution & next generation technology (for persistant birth-to-death ID) program?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 4:50pm

King Mob wrote: »

Now, in your world, why do they say biometrics in all their material if it's impossible to use for their purposes?

Not sure what that babble is meant to mean. As far as can see you've only quoted something about old technology that has a margin of error.

If Iris scans are the best you can come up with..

Ipso · 24-03-2020 4:53pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

All the sovereign citizens and freemen of the land must be going nuts at all this global flagrant abuse of their right to do whatever the hell they want

I hope the health system of Freemania has adequate resources in case they get the sniffles. If they don’t recognise the law/jurisdiction then they shouldn’t come crawling and waste resources that could go toward people with normal brain activity.

King Mob · 24-03-2020 4:54pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Not sure what that babble is meant to mean.

It's a very direct simple question.
In all the things you quote, they always mention the word "biometric".
Biometric means things like fingerprinting and iris recognition.

Why do they use this term if they aren't intending to use those things?

By "in your world" I mean, "how do you explain this to yourself".

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

As far as can see you've only quoted something about old technology that has a margin of error.

If Iris scans are the best you can come up with..

Well no, I make several points and ask some pointed questions, all of which you ignored.

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 5:03pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

The link? You mean you aren't yet aware that it's (https://id2020.org/digital-identity) a joint vaccine distribution & next generation technology (for persistant birth-to-death ID) program?

Are you referring to Gavi?

according to the site:

Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance brings together public and private sectors with the shared goal of creating equal access to new and underused vaccines for children living in the world’s poorest countries. Dr. Seth Berkley, CEO of Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, sits on our Executive Board.

Are you suggesting there is something more sinister going on here linked to Covid 19? if so, what is it?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 8:07pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Are you suggesting there is something more sinister going on here linked to Covid 19? if so, what is it?

Are you suggesting they are not the founding sponsors of id2020.org (along with the good ole rockerfellas')?

www.id2020.org, the new unique (unique as in, new technology not currently deployed), persitant birth-to-death biometric digital ID folks, with added vaccine interest?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 8:10pm

King Mob wrote: »

Biometric means things like fingerprinting and iris recognition.

What do you understand by the term 'unique'?

Rather than referencing already flawed old techniques.
Or many 'old hat' biometrics that can't even be used persitantly from birth-to-death.

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 8:35pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Are you suggesting they are not the founding sponsors of id2020.org (along with the good ole rockerfellas')?

www.id2020.org, the new unique (unique as in, new technology not currently deployed), persitant birth-to-death biometric digital ID folks, with added vaccine interest?

What is your conspiracy..

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 8:48pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What is your conspiracy..

The 'push' to 'digitalID' circa 1.5bn people (the developing world). With unique, portable, novel blockchain, persistant birth-to-death (ideally during vaccination) digital methodologies. To be completed by 2030.

This particular Cornavirus, isn't the cause of this, but is the 'perfect' opportunity for exponential program advancement.

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 8:50pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

The 'push' to 'digitalID' circa 1.5bn people (the developing world). With unique, portable, novel blockchain, persistant birth-to-death (ideally during vaccination) digital methodologies. To be completed by 2030.

This particular Cornavirus, isn't the cause of this, but is the 'perfect' opportunity for exponential program advancement.

In this conspiracy what exactly happens "during vaccination"?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 8:59pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In this conspiracy what exactly happens "during vaccination"?

For that we will have to wait and see (for the developing world), where already many pilot programmes are steering towards 'useful' RFID tags (external or on-person), ideal for both vaccine records, and digtialID of other services, including future monetary transactions.

There are some other private pilot prgrammes that use internal implants for smaller specific situations.

In Sweden (where else!) thousands of consumers actually opt-in for hand implants, as it saves a couple of minuites when ordering a fatty double soy milk frappuccino at le cafe.

They call it bio-hacking or something, as that sounds better, a bit like an 'upgrade'.

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 9:04pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

For that we will have to wait and see

Absolutely, it's always wait and see.

Just to be clear, this could involve people like Gates using a vaccination program in order to inject people with some sort of microchip or RFID, correct?

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 9:18pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Absolutely, it's always wait and see.
Just to be clear, this could involve people like Gates using a vaccination program in order to inject people with some sort of microchip or RFID, correct?

Without a time-machine, many things are wait and see. Sorry to break the bad news about time-space.

The push to digitalID everyone, with persisant technology, can mean whatever you want it to mean.
Gates of couse does have great interest in this, clearly.

But best not to speculate. Instead, indications (directly from the program) suggest such a new form of ID would be used for accessing services: ranging from voting rights, to access healthcare and education. And also to connect people to financial tools.

Slightly persuasive for some sheep farmer in Timbuktu if told he can't access any public services, or buy goods for his flock without it post-2030.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 9:30pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

So what's the conspiracy..

Maybe you're slow/forgetful?

But see #1300 (above), tip: use the scroll thingy on the mouse.

Anyway will let you old cynical unhealthy chaps get back to stocking up on toilet rolls, then asking pointless questions, and babblings about ufos/gold/lizards/whatever in this echo-chamer, as the peak pandemic closes in.

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 9:37pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Anyway will let you old cynical unhealthy chaps get back to stocking up on toilet rolls, then asking pointless questions, and babblings about ufos/gold/lizards/whateverdigital ID in this echo-chamer, as the peak pandemic closes in.

Credit where credit is due now

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 9:47pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Credit where credit is due now

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

Dohnjoe · 24-03-2020 10:02pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

This digital thing, what does it have to do with Corona virus, seriously..

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 10:31pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

This digital [ DigitalID ] thing, what does it have to do with Corona virus, seriously..

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org are 'not' Vaccine related companies, (also not on Euronews this morning, talking about COVID19 vaccines)?

Seriously, is it too hard for some simple doejoe to actually read the contents of a website before spluttering default anti-everything agendas.

eleventh · 24-03-2020 10:46pm

Dohnjoe wrote:

But if it's so fragile that it cannot be questioned I think that should give you some clue

I ignore questions when it's an obvious troll. If you don't understand, try the same tactics in any other forum, see how long you last.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-03-2020 10:58pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org are 'not' Vaccine related companies, (also not on Euronews this morning, talking about COVID19 vaccines)?

Seriously, is it too hard for some simple doejoe to actually read the contents of a website before spluttering default anti-everything agendas.

Hard to take anything you post seriously when you childishly mispell someone's name on purpose like that.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-03-2020 11:15pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Hard to take anything you post seriously when you childishly mispell someone's name on purpose like that.

My oh my, and what a poor delicate sensitive soul do we have here.

Anyway time for more deflection (see above)
What's on the cards next, 5G is it? Space lizard robots?

Seems id2020.org is too legimate for discussion.
Well good luck with the flu ladies, tally hoe.

King Mob · 24-03-2020 11:25pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

What do you understand by the term 'unique'?

Rather than referencing already flawed old techniques.
Or many 'old hat' biometrics that can't even be used persitantly from birth-to-death.

But biometrics doesn't mean microchips.
Biometrics means specifically things like fingerprinting and iris recognition.

Unique refers to the uniqueness of the individual's ID.

So again why would they continually refer to biometrics if they don't intend to use biometrics?

Also, can you point to any microchips that can do all of the things you claim these people want?
As far as I am aware, no such microchip exists.

If you are going to claim that they are developing such a thing, then why can't we say the same about biometric technology?

You are ignoring several of my points again, btw.

Dohnjoe · 25-03-2020 2:16am

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org

I have to ask, why do you keep mentioning the website name over and over in this thread?

Almost every post you mention the project you write the full url are you promoting it or something?

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-03-2020 3:26pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

does it make you tingle all over?

All we've learnt thus far is your a sensitive little soul (upset at the spelling of an already weirdly-spelt name, of someone else, that likely isn't even their real world name, unless born to parents with severe dyslexia, aww).
Now you share that you get 'thrills' and 'childish tingles' from such senseless non-realted 'diversive' banter. Isn't there a special rainbows, candyfloss and unicorns fan page for you?

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention, as it isn't a conspiracy, but instead an actual real-world program, that marries biometric unique technologies with vaccine programs.

+ Here's another more 'theory' based one for the echo chamber's entertainment (away from your 5G space lizards zoro migrants blurb stuff).
Blood group 'O- RhNeg' is the best blood group to have during this pandemic (early Chinese studies) with less uptake and symtoms. It's also considered the 'royal blood' or 'blue blood' bloodline. Great Success! (in Borat voice).

That's right us special ones (said with some jest :pac:) don't have linkage to the Rh+ apes, like the rest of you 85%, and are unlikely to be troubled with the WuFlu.
Anyway will leave that for you aul isolated folks to chew over while I lay down 10k on the bike (using O-), on a clear road, in the glorious sunshine (good for Vit D btw). Tally ho!

King Mob · 25-03-2020 3:43pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention, as it isn't a conspiracy, but instead an actual real-world program, that marries biometric unique technologies with vaccine programs.

You keep linking to that website, but it doesn't say what you claim it does.
There's nothing about it being married to vaccine programs.

You are also contradicting yourself as again you are claiming it's going to use biometrics, but in earlier posts, you claimed that biometrics couldn't work for what they wanted.

So now, when you claim something entirely new, with bad humor and no sources, I don't think it's particularly accurate.

I also find it a touch hypocritical for you keep belittling conspiracy theories and theorists you don't believe when the one you tout has it's origin in biblical end times claims.

Dohnjoe · 25-03-2020 4:01pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention,

There we have it again, can't mention it without writing the full link - bizarre

5G space lizards

Dare we ask - what is "mark of the beast"?

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-03-2020 8:32pm

King Mob wrote: »

Mark of the beast...

Very good, if that's what many folks want to call it, so be it.

After all 3,500 choose this in Sweden
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/549130/thousands-swedes-are-replacing-their-id-cards-microchip-implants
Ah, the bend over backwards land of liberal nightmares (that still today allows for pub gatherings and sit down restaurants) - as is soooo afraid of offending any hungry drinkers.

Or the many US employees 'pushed' into a RFID hand insertion, ideal for monetary transactions at the junk food vending machine.

Who knows, maybe it's inserted at the time of their next yearly seasonal flu vaccine. "Want a DigitalID insert along with your flu shot, dear Sir/Madam?" Heard uptake is expected to be high for Winter 2021, what with COVID19.

4068ac1elhodqr · 27-03-2020 2:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

Firstly, my screen name is King Mob.
Why are you intentionally misspelling people's names? It's very childish.

Secondly, you are the one who subscribes to the belief there is a conspiracy to microchip people which was predicted by the bible.
Are you now claiming your own theory is a distraction?

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

EyesClosed · 27-03-2020 2:16pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

I know the bible very well....can you show me where it says anything about an RFID chip. Also thise chips have nothing to do with the government in Sweden.

King Mob · 27-03-2020 2:19pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

No hurt feelings. Just pointing out that it's a bit childish and silly.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's short hand for the same idea.

But hey, speaking of incorrect terms:
Why did the link you keep posting use the word biometrics when you claimed that biometrics wouldn't work for what they want?

Microchips or RFID or whatever aren't biometrics.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

Ok. So you are calling your own theory a distraction. That's a bit odd.

4068ac1elhodqr · 27-03-2020 2:23pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

I know the bible very well....can you show me where it says anything about an RFID chip. Also thise chips have nothing to do with the government in Sweden.

Bear in mind RFID wasn't much about the place back then, they had tablets, but again not the same yoke as the latest iPad Pro:
Revelation 13:16

Correct the Swedish public opt-in (and pay for it themselves) for this as a 'convience'. Many US employees who get the implant are said to be "lovin' it" as they can get fatty munchies out the vendor much quicker etc.

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

EyesClosed · 27-03-2020 2:26pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Bear in mind RFID wasn't much about the place back then, they had tablets, but again not the same yoke as the latest iPad Pro:
Revelation 13:16

Correct the Swedish public opt-in (and pay for it themselves) for this as a 'convience'. Many US employees who get the implant are said to be "lovin' it" as they can get fatty munchies out the vendor much quicker etc.

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

ok how is the Swedish chip a mark of Satan? The chips work using the same contactless tech as your phone....so is your phone also connected to Satan?

Also that website has nothing to do with the chips in sweden....so how are they related?

King Mob · 27-03-2020 2:29pm

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

But that link doesn't refer to rfid anythings. No mircochips or anything.
They're talking about biometrics.

Also, it doesn't mention anything of "denial of service". That's something you are making up.

Also, the passage you are quoting doesn't support your conspiracy theory.

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

These microchips wouldn't be on the hand or the head.
In is not the same thing as on.

4068ac1elhodqr · 27-03-2020 2:31pm

King Mob wrote: »

No hurt feelings. Just pointing out that it's a bit childish and silly.

Clearly you are very upset. It's simply short hand for the same idea.

King Mob wrote: »

It's short hand for the same idea..

Yet RFID only has 4 letters, and microchip (as you prefer) has more (is not short hand).
Strange, if not a bit odd and even diversive.

King Mob wrote: »

But hey, speaking of incorrect terms:
Why did the link you keep posting use the word biometrics when you claimed that biometrics wouldn't work for what they want?.

This is correct, as in 'current' biometrics are not sufficient.
Even photo National ID cards, they (www.id2020.org), reject as flawed too.

Thus, all current standards are flawed e.g. fingerprinting/facescan a newborn, that won't work.
Even modern face cameras can be rendered useless in no time.
None of these are considered to be 'birth-to-death ID persistant'.

These old methods may (only) be of (secondary) use when using RFID(internal persistant biometric), with blockchain as the primary validation of DigtialID.

You're welcome to the quick education lesson!

Digital ID's for everyone

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