Digital ID's for everyone

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Anyway will let you old cynical unhealthy chaps get back to stocking up on toilet rolls, then asking pointless questions, and babblings about ufos/gold/lizards/whateverdigital ID in this echo-chamer, as the peak pandemic closes in.

Credit where credit is due now

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Credit where credit is due now

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

This digital thing, what does it have to do with Corona virus, seriously..

Dohnjoe wrote: »

This digital [ DigitalID ] thing, what does it have to do with Corona virus, seriously..

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org are 'not' Vaccine related companies, (also not on Euronews this morning, talking about COVID19 vaccines)?

Seriously, is it too hard for some simple doejoe to actually read the contents of a website before spluttering default anti-everything agendas.

eleventh

Dohnjoe wrote:

But if it's so fragile that it cannot be questioned I think that should give you some clue

I ignore questions when it's an obvious troll. If you don't understand, try the same tactics in any other forum, see how long you last.

Timberrrrrrrr

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

So the simple id2020.org published concept of DigitalID simply doesn't exist in your world, well that's an interesting distortion of already presented facts.

I.e. "The Doejoe Agenda"

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org are 'not' Vaccine related companies, (also not on Euronews this morning, talking about COVID19 vaccines)?

Seriously, is it too hard for some simple doejoe to actually read the contents of a website before spluttering default anti-everything agendas.

Hard to take anything you post seriously when you childishly mispell someone's name on purpose like that.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Hard to take anything you post seriously when you childishly mispell someone's name on purpose like that.

My oh my, and what a poor delicate sensitive soul do we have here.

Anyway time for more deflection (see above)
What's on the cards next, 5G is it? Space lizard robots?

Seems id2020.org is too legimate for discussion.
Well good luck with the flu ladies, tally hoe.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

What do you understand by the term 'unique'?

Rather than referencing already flawed old techniques.
Or many 'old hat' biometrics that can't even be used persitantly from birth-to-death.

But biometrics doesn't mean microchips.
Biometrics means specifically things like fingerprinting and iris recognition.

Unique refers to the uniqueness of the individual's ID.

So again why would they continually refer to biometrics if they don't intend to use biometrics?

Also, can you point to any microchips that can do all of the things you claim these people want?
As far as I am aware, no such microchip exists.

If you are going to claim that they are developing such a thing, then why can't we say the same about biometric technology?

You are ignoring several of my points again, btw.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Are you saying the founder and many partners of www.id2020.org

I have to ask, why do you keep mentioning the website name over and over in this thread?

Almost every post you mention the project you write the full url are you promoting it or something?

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

does it make you tingle all over?

All we've learnt thus far is your a sensitive little soul (upset at the spelling of an already weirdly-spelt name, of someone else, that likely isn't even their real world name, unless born to parents with severe dyslexia, aww).
Now you share that you get 'thrills' and 'childish tingles' from such senseless non-realted 'diversive' banter. Isn't there a special rainbows, candyfloss and unicorns fan page for you?

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention, as it isn't a conspiracy, but instead an actual real-world program, that marries biometric unique technologies with vaccine programs.

+ Here's another more 'theory' based one for the echo chamber's entertainment (away from your 5G space lizards zoro migrants blurb stuff).
Blood group 'O- RhNeg' is the best blood group to have during this pandemic (early Chinese studies) with less uptake and symtoms. It's also considered the 'royal blood' or 'blue blood' bloodline. Great Success! (in Borat voice).

That's right us special ones (said with some jest :pac:) don't have linkage to the Rh+ apes, like the rest of you 85%, and are unlikely to be troubled with the WuFlu.
Anyway will leave that for you aul isolated folks to chew over while I lay down 10k on the bike (using O-), on a clear road, in the glorious sunshine (good for Vit D btw). Tally ho!

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention, as it isn't a conspiracy, but instead an actual real-world program, that marries biometric unique technologies with vaccine programs.

You keep linking to that website, but it doesn't say what you claim it does.
There's nothing about it being married to vaccine programs.

You are also contradicting yourself as again you are claiming it's going to use biometrics, but in earlier posts, you claimed that biometrics couldn't work for what they wanted.

So now, when you claim something entirely new, with bad humor and no sources, I don't think it's particularly accurate.

I also find it a touch hypocritical for you keep belittling conspiracy theories and theorists you don't believe when the one you tout has it's origin in biblical end times claims.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

....Anyway the www.id2020.org is probably best not to mention,

There we have it again, can't mention it without writing the full link - bizarre

5G space lizards

Dare we ask - what is "mark of the beast"?

King Mob wrote: »

Mark of the beast...

Very good, if that's what many folks want to call it, so be it.

After all 3,500 choose this in Sweden
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/549130/thousands-swedes-are-replacing-their-id-cards-microchip-implants
Ah, the bend over backwards land of liberal nightmares (that still today allows for pub gatherings and sit down restaurants) - as is soooo afraid of offending any hungry drinkers.

Or the many US employees 'pushed' into a RFID hand insertion, ideal for monetary transactions at the junk food vending machine.

Who knows, maybe it's inserted at the time of their next yearly seasonal flu vaccine. "Want a DigitalID insert along with your flu shot, dear Sir/Madam?" Heard uptake is expected to be high for Winter 2021, what with COVID19.

King Mob wrote: »

Firstly, my screen name is King Mob.
Why are you intentionally misspelling people's names? It's very childish.

Secondly, you are the one who subscribes to the belief there is a conspiracy to microchip people which was predicted by the bible.
Are you now claiming your own theory is a distraction?

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

I know the bible very well....can you show me where it says anything about an RFID chip. Also thise chips have nothing to do with the government in Sweden.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Oops, sorry to hurt your sensitve feelings.
Kingbob has a nicer ring to it.

No hurt feelings. Just pointing out that it's a bit childish and silly.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Why do you call a simple RFID item, a microchip, do you not understand basic technology, and what is currently used by thousands already for monetary transactions?

It's short hand for the same idea.

But hey, speaking of incorrect terms:
Why did the link you keep posting use the word biometrics when you claimed that biometrics wouldn't work for what they want?

Microchips or RFID or whatever aren't biometrics.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

It's interesting that a book written 2,000yrs ago has such accuracy in use of hand only (not money) for the buying of goods, that is all.

I know this concept, and any mention of skygods, would greatly upset all the keen athiests, during a looming pandemic as they prepare for the nothingness, of their void nothing thereafter.

You could say it's a lot more on the money that some more wayward skygod that offers a dozen or so virtual virgins for going out in a puff of smoke.

Ok. So you are calling your own theory a distraction. That's a bit odd.

EyesClosed wrote: »

I know the bible very well....can you show me where it says anything about an RFID chip. Also thise chips have nothing to do with the government in Sweden.

Bear in mind RFID wasn't much about the place back then, they had tablets, but again not the same yoke as the latest iPad Pro:
Revelation 13:16

Correct the Swedish public opt-in (and pay for it themselves) for this as a 'convience'. Many US employees who get the implant are said to be "lovin' it" as they can get fatty munchies out the vendor much quicker etc.

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Bear in mind RFID wasn't much about the place back then, they had tablets, but again not the same yoke as the latest iPad Pro:
Revelation 13:16

Correct the Swedish public opt-in (and pay for it themselves) for this as a 'convience'. Many US employees who get the implant are said to be "lovin' it" as they can get fatty munchies out the vendor much quicker etc.

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

ok how is the Swedish chip a mark of Satan? The chips work using the same contactless tech as your phone....so is your phone also connected to Satan?

Also that website has nothing to do with the chips in sweden....so how are they related?

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

The future use of it in the developing world www.id2020.org (at same time as vaccines) may also be offered as an 'optional' convenience.

Better yet, offered for free! You can of course opt-out of course, but may receive a 'denial of service' for some wider services, thus would be inconvenient not to get it.

But that link doesn't refer to rfid anythings. No mircochips or anything.
They're talking about biometrics.

Also, it doesn't mention anything of "denial of service". That's something you are making up.

Also, the passage you are quoting doesn't support your conspiracy theory.

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

These microchips wouldn't be on the hand or the head.
In is not the same thing as on.

King Mob wrote: »

No hurt feelings. Just pointing out that it's a bit childish and silly.

Clearly you are very upset. It's simply short hand for the same idea.

King Mob wrote: »

It's short hand for the same idea..

Yet RFID only has 4 letters, and microchip (as you prefer) has more (is not short hand).
Strange, if not a bit odd and even diversive.

King Mob wrote: »

But hey, speaking of incorrect terms:
Why did the link you keep posting use the word biometrics when you claimed that biometrics wouldn't work for what they want?.

This is correct, as in 'current' biometrics are not sufficient.
Even photo National ID cards, they (www.id2020.org), reject as flawed too.

Thus, all current standards are flawed e.g. fingerprinting/facescan a newborn, that won't work.
Even modern face cameras can be rendered useless in no time.
None of these are considered to be 'birth-to-death ID persistant'.

These old methods may (only) be of (secondary) use when using RFID(internal persistant biometric), with blockchain as the primary validation of DigtialID.

You're welcome to the quick education lesson!

King Mob wrote: »

But that link doesn't refer to rfid anythings.

Was there many of the aul RFIDs about the place 2,000yrs ago ya' think?

Why are you being so silly?

Might they have used the word 'mark' when that was their closest available description at that time?

I know this will require you to think a little bit, but can wait until 2pm for it to sink in (fingers crossed), it what is known as 'thinking outside the confined box of a serial theory denier'.

King Mob wrote: »

Also, it doesn't mention anything of "denial of service".

Did you not read www.id2020.org yet?
If not now's your chance.

They refer to having a birth to death persistant DigitalID as being 'useful' for accessing many services from voting, healthcare, education and so on.

There is the strong possibility in years to come: no DigitalID, no vote/health/education access as it replaced paper ID.
You can't easily vote today without some strong form of paper/card ID. These are easy to misuse also (hence the need for replacements).

King Mob wrote: »

These microchips wouldn't be on the hand or the head.

Again you are using the wrong term on purpose, curious that.

RFIDs are placed in the right hands is the primary and ideal location, where else do you want them? Elbows?

EyesClosed wrote: »

???

Better still, save the non-stop questions are offer us your (well bible-read, apparently), conception (in your own time) of what exactly is meant by Revelation 13:16

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Better still, save the non-stop questions are offer us your (well bible-read, apparently), conception (in your own time) of what exactly is meant by Revelation 13:16

Well thats the beautiful thing about it....it could mean anything.
It could be getting Ash on your forehead as maybe Catholics are the wrong religion.

Also....you started this it is up to you to explain it.

My questions need answers, I am totally happy to believe you, but I need a good explanation.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Was there many of the aul RFIDs about the place 2,000yrs ago ya' think?
Why are you being so silly?

I was refering to the one you keep posting for some reason: www.id2020.org
It doesn't refer to anything RFID and it doesn't refer to anything being implanted anywhere.
It talks about biometrics. Which is weird cause you said they wouldn't work.
Why does your link say "biometrics?"
Why do you keep ignoring this question?

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Might they have used the word 'mark' when that was their closest available description at that time?

But RFID microchips don't leave marks. And the bible quote says "on" not "in".

Might they have also been wrong and/or talking about something else?

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

They refer to having a birth to death persistant DigitalID as being 'useful' for accessing many services from voting, healthcare, education and so on.

There is the strong possibility in years to come: no DigitalID, no vote/health/education access as it replaced paper ID.
You can't easily vote today without some strong form of paper/card ID. These are easy to misuse also (hence the need for replacements).

But your links don't talk about doing anything of the sort. You're making it up.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Again you are using the wrong term on purpose, curious that.

Why, does it upset you?

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

RFIDs are placed in the right hands is the primary and ideal location, where else do you want them? Elbows?

But they can also be placed in the left hand.
The bible also says the forehead. Why does it claim that?

EyesClosed wrote: »

Well thats the beautiful thing about it....it could mean anything. .

So you (implied yourself as a bible scholar of sorts),
have zero answer nor interpertation of it, cool beans!

Yet a casual chap such as me is able to offer you an interpretation.

Could be you've missed your vocation, e.g. politicans are also good at not answering questions or to say "it could mean anything" when they have no response.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

So you (implied yourself as a bible scholar of sorts),
have zero answer nor interpertation of it, cool beans!

Yet a casual chap such as me is able to offer you an interpretation.

Could be you've missed your vocation, e.g. politicans are also good at not answering questions or to say "it could mean anything" when they have no response.

I dont need to have an interpretation of it....as I did not bring it up.

I want to understand how you came to your understanding of it. Hence my questions. If you have a theroy it is perfectly alright for us to question it. You deflect instead of answering, which leads me to believe you have based your theroy on nothing.

King Mob wrote: »

I was refering to the one you keep posting for some reason: www.id2020.org
It doesn't refer to anything RFID and it doesn't refer to anything being implanted anywhere.
It talks about biometrics.

It does talk about biometrics, but only in the sense that all current biometrics are flawed, as per all current paper, and all card photo ID (inc national level), all also flawed.

Hence the 'push' (as they call it) for 'unique (new, not seen before)' and persistant Digital ID.

If you can state exactly what is means by 'persistant birth-to-death' digital, (blockchain verified) Digital ID is
- then we can all get close to solving the great scooby doo mystery that is www.id2020.org

I.e. An ID(digital) established at time of birth, that remains 'persistant' (not removable or deniable as a unique secure identifier),
at any time during a persons lifecycle, that remains in place, right up until time of death.

Maybe it's a lucky charm they give you, like a sticker or a rabbits foot keyring, or a nice necklace.

What else could it be....
Answers on a postcard.

EyesClosed wrote: »

I dont need to have an interpretation of it.....

Cool, you're clearly very special, above all mysteries and unknowns, all-knowing, all-seeing, un-questionable, unlike many of us mere mortals. Ah well.