The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

markc91 · 09-04-2019 5:54pm

Yeah i read 18th April hoping to get to a Vikings game late sept/ early oct now that aerlingus fly direct

11-04-2019 9:58am

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay.amp.html

tl;dr - McCarthy was inept, Rodgers is a prick. Tell us something we don't know, but still worth a read.

Hmmmm, being one of the most talented players of all time or being so nice that they could not find one person with a bad word to say about me after a decade in a team....which would I choose, which would I choose...

It's real non story stuff. Of the hundreds that have played with the Packers in that time, they found a handful who don't like all aspects of his personality. Meh.

mikemac2 · 11-04-2019 7:18pm

Best guard in the league Marshal Yanda extends with the Ravens to end of 2020 season

brinty · 11-04-2019 8:35pm

mikemac2 wrote:

Best guard in the league Marshal Yanda extends with the Ravens to end of 2020 season

Zach Martin signed a new contact last year mate

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 12-04-2019 8:33am

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmmm, being one of the most talented players of all time or being so nice that they could not find one person with a bad word to say about me after a decade in a team....which would I choose, which would I choose...

It's real non story stuff. Of the hundreds that have played with the Packers in that time, they found a handful who don't like all aspects of his personality. Meh.

It is a story though, and a relevant one. It shows that the Packers lack of success is partly down to the poor leadership of Rodgers. There's not many other QBs in the league with teammates that have disliked them so strongly that they're prepared to smear them publicly.
The only other QB that's been as publicly criticised is Big Ben. Wentz did have that article written about him earlier but that was from a very anti-Wentz journo apparently.

jack presley · 12-04-2019 9:57pm

No suspension for Reuben Foster. Bit bizarre that they're fining him but not suspending him

https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status/1116796375746871299

j8wk2feszrnpao · 12-04-2019 11:28pm

Chris Hogan signs a 1yr deal with the Panthers.
3yrs with the Pats, 3 SB appearances, 2 SB rings.

The Pats WR need further increased going into the draft.

Billy86 · 13-04-2019 12:17am

So I might be way, way late in finding this out, but 22 year old Nasir Adderley is related to 79 year old Hall of Famer and former Packer Herb Adderley...

...they're cousins

13-04-2019 9:08am

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

It is a story though, and a relevant one. It shows that the Packers lack of success is partly down to the poor leadership of Rodgers...

Not necessarily at all.

Ryan Grant says it was precisely the opposite, that it was his attitude that makes Rodgers great and drove him and the franchise.

And that's ultimately the problem with the entire story, none of it is even close to fact, it's all opinion. They've found a handful of players who didn't like Rodgers? It's not exactly the cutting edge of journalism. What next, some golfers don't like Johnson and here's a footballer who has issues with Ronaldo?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 13-04-2019 3:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not necessarily at all.

Ryan Grant says it was precisely the opposite, that it was his attitude that makes Rodgers great and drove him and the franchise.

And that's ultimately the problem with the entire story, none of it is even close to fact, it's all opinion. They've found a handful of players who didn't like Rodgers? It's not exactly the cutting edge of journalism. What next, some golfers don't like Johnson and here's a footballer who has issues with Ronaldo?

I don't know, when it's come to Rodgers there's been far too many reports on him being an asshole for it not to be at least partly true. You don't hear those stories about Brady, Manning, Brees, Ryan etc. Even when all the sh1t was being thrown around the Seahawks there wasn't a bad word said about Wilson. The only other comparable situation is with Big Ben, and he doesn't exactly seem like a model teammate either.

And the issue here is that being QB is different to any other position in sport; leadership is far more important and Rodgers obviously lacks in that department. For as great as Ronaldo is, he'll never be as important a leader as any franchise QB, and solo sportsmen aren't a comparison whatsoever.
And fwiw, I do quite like Rodgers. I hope he goes on to win at least 1 more ring so long as it doesn't come at the expense of the Pats.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 13-04-2019 9:29pm

It probably hits Rodgers a bit, he took it personally enough to react to it.

There's some quotes from ex-players that give some insight, but there's also a lot of unnamed "sources" (which is always tough to believe or not). The piece itself is way too long, and contains lots of the commentators own ramblings rather than obtaining on the record sources. In many ways it has elements of Wickersham's waffling piece on Brady/Belichick and that it was all over (who then go and win a 6th ring), which had so many unnamed sources (or the writers own lies).

Take out the unnamed sources, take out the writers own lengthy examination of unnamed sources, and you have a few bits and pieces. Rodgers hasn't always been the best leader (might not be his thing), but he clearly hasn't aggravated every player (or the majority of players), so I'm not sure it's seriously hurt the team.

The piece itself got what the writer wanted, attention.

letowski · 16-04-2019 9:56am

Russell Wilson 4y/$140m. $35m per year.

Highest paid player in the NFL.

raze_them_all_ · 16-04-2019 11:48am

letowski wrote: »

Russell Wilson 4y/$140m. $35m per year.

Highest paid player in the NFL.

Worth it. The franchise would be nothing without him tbh

eagle eye · 16-04-2019 12:32pm

raze_them_all_ wrote:

Worth it. The franchise would be nothing without him tbh

I agree he deserves the contract but disagree that the franchise would be nothing without him. Pete Carroll is a good coach, he'd find a way to keep it working.

Lionbacker · 16-04-2019 2:10pm

Regular season schedule is to be released tomorrow night at 1am for those interested.

markc91 · 16-04-2019 3:10pm

Lionbacker wrote: »

Regular season schedule is to be released tomorrow night at 1am for those interested.

Where would be the best place to get tickets sorted when the fixtures are released?

raze_them_all_ · 16-04-2019 4:54pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I agree he deserves the contract but disagree that the franchise would be nothing without him. Pete Carroll is a good coach, he'd find a way to keep it working.

I don't think it would tbh, he does an awful lot for the team. Keeps drives going that should be well dead

eagle eye · 16-04-2019 7:24pm

raze_them_all_ wrote:

I don't think it would tbh, he does an awful lot for the team. Keeps drives going that should be well dead

You are underestimating Pete Carroll.

Foxtrol · 16-04-2019 8:03pm

Too many variables to really say what would have happened if he left but over the last few years, with that shambolic OL, most other QBs outside of Wilson would have struggled enormously. Not sure how much blame of that we should put on Carroll, but they would have fallen apart if they didn't have Wilson.

raze_them_all_ · 16-04-2019 8:29pm

eagle eye wrote: »

You are underestimating Pete Carroll.

Pete Carroll on the 2 yard line decided to throw instead of letting marshawn lynch fall over. I give Pete Carroll credit but he thinks he's smarter than everyone else

16-04-2019 8:43pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Pete Carroll on the 2 yard line decided to throw instead of letting marshawn lynch fall over. I give Pete Carroll credit but he thinks he's smarter than everyone else

Bill b is the goat and he sat Malcom Butler in a Superbowl coaches don't always make the right call hardly fair to judge someone on one call everyone makes mistakes

eagle eye · 17-04-2019 7:20am

raze_them_all_ wrote:

Pete Carroll on the 2 yard line decided to throw instead of letting marshawn lynch fall over. I give Pete Carroll credit but he thinks he's smarter than everyone else

Pete Carroll has no need seasons in Washington and n which time he has gotten the Seahawks to the Superbowl twice winning once and has had the Seahawks in the playoffs in seven of those nine seasons including before Russell Wilson arrived.
He was a great college coach before then with USC from 2001 to 2009 and three of his starting QB's went in the top ten picks in the draft.

coco0981 · 17-04-2019 12:49pm

Tom Brady seems to be enjoying Twitter, nice to see his lighter side
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1118242409962442753?s=19

The Good Ole Boys · 17-04-2019 5:53pm

coco0981 wrote: »

Tom Brady seems to be enjoying Twitter, nice to see his lighter side
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1118242409962442753?s=19

Tom was always good on social media. His ****ty photoshops on FB were great. His sense of humour is nice, I like it.

jack presley · 17-04-2019 7:57pm

Two possible releases today. The schedule is definitely coming out but apparently the Kraft tape could be released too.

The Good Ole Boys · 17-04-2019 8:09pm

I bet everyone really wants to see that Kraft tape.

jack presley · 17-04-2019 8:15pm

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

I bet everyone really wants to see that Kraft tape.

Oh God no. Old man porn? No thank you.

mikemac2 · 17-04-2019 9:10pm

Ah schedule release day

When message boards of all 32 teams believe the league has a vendetta and screwed them

j8wk2feszrnpao · 17-04-2019 10:34pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

Ah schedule release day

When message boards of all 32 teams believe the league has a vendetta and screwed them

The bye week is the only issue. Having it really early is far from ideal.

ArmaniJeanss · 17-04-2019 10:52pm

munstermagic11 wrote: »

The bye week is the only issue.

Having your most difficult game on a Thursday night 4 days after your second most difficult game can be another bone of contention.

Hazys · 17-04-2019 11:48pm

Gronk being Gronk

https://twitter.com/patriots/status/1118623021865025536?s=21

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-04-2019 6:39am

Handy.

https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/1118720147450208256?s=19

helimachoptor · 18-04-2019 2:31pm

Get to see odell and Baker be humbled by the titans in person in week 1.

Whats not to love about that schedule

jack presley · 18-04-2019 3:39pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Get to see odell and Baker be humbled by the titans in person in week 1.

Whats not to love about that schedule

Prime contender to be the Sky 6pm game that week I’d say

ScrubsfanChris · 18-04-2019 9:09pm

How Atlanta decided to show of their schedule:
https://twitter.com/AtlantaFalcons/status/1118665439263981568

I lost it at 40 seconds :pac:

The Chargers one wasn't half bad eitehr:
https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/1118665449594470400

Onecoolcookie · 19-04-2019 12:33pm

Panthers one is best of all! Didn't think I'd enjoy the schedule announcements so much!

https://twitter.com/Panthers/status/1118673996365619201

paulie21 · 23-04-2019 6:42pm

Frank Clark traded to Chiefs

Oat23 · 23-04-2019 6:43pm

In other words, I don't want to stay in this horrible sunshine. Trade me back home to the cold :pac:

I don't remember seeing a kicker demand a trade before? I don't see the Niners letting him go though.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120740809517731842

Realt Dearg Sec · 23-04-2019 6:49pm

Oat23 wrote: »

In other words, I don't want to stay in this horrible sunshine. Trade me back home to the cold :pac:

I don't remember seeing a kicker demand a trade before? I don't see the Niners letting him go though.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120740809517731842

Someone must be grovelling pretty hard at his front door in Chicago.

phatkev · 23-04-2019 6:50pm

paulie21 wrote: »

Frank Clark traded to Chiefs

great move by the Chiefs

the baby bull elephant · 23-04-2019 6:54pm

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Given the compensation, the supposed d line talent in this draft and having to pay him 20m+ a year I think the Seahawks got the better end.

letowski · 23-04-2019 6:55pm

phatkev wrote:

great move by the Chiefs

It feels like they gave up a lot plus they have to pay him about $19mil per year.

Foxtrol · 23-04-2019 6:57pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Someone must be grovelling pretty hard at his front door in Chicago.

At the tail end of the season last year he spoke really highly of how much he was enjoying his time at the 49ers and spent months in talks for an extension. Pulling this now he was either tampered with, and knows someone will trade something for him, or has lost the plot.

Foxtrol · 23-04-2019 7:00pm

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Though a good player, hard to see that Clark deal as anything other than Seahawks fleecing them.

While letting Houston walk, Chiefs basically traded Dee Ford and a 1st round pick for Clark, who will likely demand a more expensive deal than Ford. They’ll have to hope their evaluations were right or this could look bad.

Oat23 · 23-04-2019 7:03pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

At the tail end of the season last year he spoke really highly of how much he was enjoying his time at the 49ers and spent months in talks for an extension. Pulling this now he was either tampered with, and knows someone will trade something for him, or has lost the plot.

Or maybe he just misses his family and decided himself that he wants to be closer to home? His wife gave birth near the end of the season and they live in Chicago. He lived in a SF hotel last season. He also spent a lot of time between January and when he was tagged talking about the Bears and perhaps returning. He was basically begging Pace to sign him and he would have if it weren't for the tag.

“I’m not really thinking about it. I’m not really worried about it. I’m just worried about playing football. My family is not living out there with me right now, so I have a countdown for when I can go home and kiss my three boys and my wife.”
Five weeks ago, Gould’s wife, Lauren, gave birth to the couple’s third child. The 49ers’ kicker was able to make two trips back to Chicago to spend time with his family. Because he was beginning the second year of a two-year contract he signed with the 49ers, the decision was made for Gould to live in a hotel close to 49ers headquarters while the rest of the family remained in their permanent home.
“My wife and I decided this year because my deal is up at the end of this year that we wanted them to have normalcy,” Gould said.

phatkev · 23-04-2019 7:23pm

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Given the compensation, the supposed d line talent in this draft and having to pay him 20m+ a year I think the Seahawks got the better end.

dline talent might be deep but theres no way you're getting a player anywhere near his talent at 29. I'd happily give up what they did to get one of the best DE's in the league

Foxtrol · 23-04-2019 7:37pm

Oat23 wrote: »

Or maybe he just misses his family and decided himself that he wants to be closer to home? His wife gave birth near the end of the season and they live in Chicago. He lived in a SF hotel last season. He also spent a lot of time between January and when he was tagged talking about the Bears and perhaps returning. He was basically begging Pace to sign him and he would have if it weren't for the tag.

He’s a grown adult and supposed professional who you want me to believe has, after 2 seasons in San Francisco plus 3 months of the offseason, only now realized that he misses his family?

I like Gould but he has spent the last few months playing both sides of things. One minute he is in the media loving life at the 49ers (see below), then suddenly after the Parkey miss he’s back in the media courting a return to Chicago, then he gets tagged and continues through the whole period to negotiate a long term contract with SF, before finally waiting until 2 days prior to the draft to request a trade (a month after tagging).

I’m all for players doing all they can to earn their money, but he has been all over the place and has now put his team, that he apparently appreciates, in a bad spot. Hopefully it’ll work itself out for both sides, but I won’t feel bad for him if he ends up losing his $5m contract this year and has to sit out.

"Ultimately, at the end of the day, I hope I'm back here," Gould continued. "If that's how it is, I love it here. I've enjoyed it here. I think this place checks a lot of boxes off as a player. I think the support staff here is phenomenal. I think the York family has been incredible through the entire two years I've been here, especially through some tough situations that my wife and I have had to deal with, whether it's delivering a baby, whether it's going through a personal situation last training camp.

"I don't think they get enough credit for the human side of football. Everyone looks at wins and losses, and I think those are things that, as a player, you take into account. And then you go to my special teams room, that room is probably the best room I've had in my 14-year career. Those are things that all go into it."

eagle eye · 23-04-2019 7:42pm

phatkev wrote:

dline talent might be deep but theres no way you're getting a player anywhere near his talent at 29. I'd happily give up what they did to get one of the best DE's in the league

This is how teams do it wrong. Buikd through the draft and you never have cap issues.
Chiefs must be skating very close to the cap limit right now with the deal they gave Clark, which is $105.5m over five years with $63m guaranteed.

Knex* · 23-04-2019 8:17pm

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Horrendous, if you ask me. They gave up way too much draft capital and now have to pay him 20m a year, plus.

They essentially traded a first rounder away to move from Dee Ford to Clarke, and still have to fork out the contract.

letowski · 23-04-2019 11:11pm

It seems to be a policy under Brett Veach the two years he has been GM. They are willing to pay a premium for outside talent. Tyrann Mathieu (3y/$42m), Anthony Hitchens (5y/$45m), Sammy Watkins (3y/$48m) and now Frank Clark will all be getting rich contracts. I think Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill are up next year and Pat Mahomes the year after that (or they pick up the 5th year option). It will be interesting to see how they manage the cap over the next two years.

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