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Special Forces ultimate hell week

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    harr wrote: »
    I think the UK tv viewers have gotten to know the DS in the last number of years as they are all minor celebrities at this stage and have had various TV shows and book deals and the likes. I found the Irish a lot more edgy and raw compared to the UK version. The first series of the SAS version started out the same as the Irish one but then changed to focus on the back stories of those taking part.
    I still really enjoy both but you can see the bigger budget in the SAS series.
    Anybody remember the Ray Mears survival program? That’s was a cracking program.

    I hadn't seen the SAS one before the Irish one (which i did enjoy) and I wonder if it might lose something after because of the profile they got.

    I don't doubt that there would be a bigger budget buy I just felt the improvements to the Irish one wouldnt really be ones of budget or being flashier. Just by bringing more nuance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Is it pure coincidence that the real Ranger Wing are getting dispatched to Mali for their first assignment in ten years in the weeks after the series is shown?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0609/1054297-proposal-to-deploy-arw-to-mali-to-go-to-cabinet/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Is it pure coincidence that the real Ranger Wing are getting dispatched to Mali for their first assignment in ten years in the weeks after the series is shown?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0609/1054297-proposal-to-deploy-arw-to-mali-to-go-to-cabinet/

    Because DF policy is decided by reality TV lol.

    Nothing to do with a TV show, we've a troop commitment to Mali for a number of years now and members of the ARW serve with all our oversea's missions.

    I think the difference with this Mali mission is they're going as an independent SF unit as they did in Chad and East Timor unlike (for example) Lebanon, Syria or Afghanistan where they're integrated within the unit alongside other infantry, cav, arty etc sections.

    Alf I still haven't seen the SAS show, it sounds like its better TV and made easier for a civilian to understand whats going on. I'm looking at this a little differen obviously, but I can honestly say this is as real to military training as you're likely to see civilians being put through.

    That's not to say that any of those contestants could step into a regular army section and operate as a soldier, not a hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I see RTE are inviting applicants for another season of the show, great news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    I see RTE are inviting applicants for another season of the show, great news.




    Where will they recruit them from this time? I thought most of last seasons crew look liked the got the call through fitness facilities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Any way to watch this again online, i missed at least one of the episodes, cant find it on YouTube anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    Where will they recruit them from this time? I thought most of last seasons crew look liked the got the call through fitness facilities.

    You can apply online through a fairly detailed application process, the link was on their FB page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    Damo 2k9 wrote: »
    You can apply online through a fairly detailed application process, the link was on their FB page.

    Thanks not interested myself only as an observer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Damo 2k9 wrote: »
    You can apply online through a fairly detailed application process, the link was on their FB page.

    What if you're not on Facebook? I'd never heard of this until the programme aired.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Caledonia


    Felt Grace is such a loss to the Irish army.
    So impressed by her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Caledonia


    Felt Grace is such a loss to the Irish army.
    So impressed by her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Read somewhere that the Army Rangers recruitment course just finished. 2 people passed out of 33 participants, unbelievable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Caledonia wrote: »
    Felt Grace is such a loss to the Irish army.
    So impressed by her.

    When I think about some of the gobsh*tes I work with I have to agree :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    They have ads on RTE at the moment recruiting for series 2. Would imagine series 2 will get an even better level of contestant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    No real update on anything but thought I'd pass this one along.

    I ran with some of the Hell Week guys in a work (defence forces) 10k on Wednesday.

    We'd a great bit of craic about the show, most of us in work were particularly interested in what happened off camera, down time with the DS's etc

    There was none, zero. And what they told us couldn't be made up without experience of it.

    They're all still in great shape and some are running in the Dublin City Marathon in three weeks time, but what struck me was Paul (the big lad who pulled out at the tunnel). He showed real espirit de corp and lesson learned from his time with the show.

    I've had a terrible chest infection all week and against my better judgement and advice from people I run with I ran the 10k anyway, and had an absolutely dreadful time.

    At 8km I was really struggling, couldn't get a breath and was starting to cramp (this NEVER happens to me on a 10k).

    I was wallowing at the back of the race (the roads had already opened) when a civilian car pulled up alongside me and Paul (recognizing me from earlier in the barracks) got out to cheer me along, he really gave me a pick up and gave me a new burst of energy.

    Great guy and obviously took some lessons from us back into his civilian life.

    As a soldier I was very proud to see him doing this for me.. Btw at this stage I was aware I was being shadowed by an army medical car!.

    I'm off sick now. The doctor tore me a new asshole, and I deserved it. I'm running long enough now to know how dangerous it was to do a road race with a severe chest infection

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭santana75


    Watched this the last two weeks and I have to say its actually pretty good. Not a fan of reality TV normally, but RTE have something decent on their hands. Only when I started watching though did I realise I knew two of the lads on it. Just goes to show how small Ireland actually is..........Its one of these things where you're constantly asking yourself if you could hack it if you were in their shoes? From the looks of things though it seems like the Cold was the thing that got most people in the end. Everybody is fit but its not about how ripped you are. One of the instructors made a comment about how on the first night it looked like an audition for the Chipendales. Seems to be brutally fair aswell, I mean there is no quarter given regardless of gender, the women are shouted at and treated just as aggressively as the men. Surprised theres not an outcry and accusations of sexism and bullying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Round 2 will be aired on the 17th February at 21:30 on RTÉ2

    Really looking forward to this now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Back on Monday woop woop!

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Yeah looking forward to it on Monday. SAS Who Dares Wins just finished last Sunday and was a really good show too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ultrawoman


    Enjoy, everyone 😁


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    That start in the stream was some shock to the system :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    I thought the model would keep the lads motivated- she didn't even get as far as the barracks!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Jaysus that was brutal stuff and it's only day 1!

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,952 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    I completely forgot about it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    That was very enjoyable, certainly not taking it easy on them


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Altreab2


    Nearly choked on my coffee when he made the Zola Budd comment :D:D and Lavender boy :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    What can I say, great stuff.

    Really enjoyed that.

    'Scratch' is a complete bastard of a few hours, every soldier has been through it. Its just hours upon hours of beasting, its hell for its duration but a right of passage for every soldier.

    If I was to change one thing I'd have them all with regulation hair cuts and clean shaved (for the men of course).

    Excellent stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Altreab2 wrote: »
    Nearly choked on my coffee when he made the Zola Budd comment :D:D and Lavender boy :D:D

    Where are your headphones now!! :)

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Fair play to them all. I wouldn't last an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Wait til they find out Jason Black climbed Mount Everest (he's a minor celebrity in Donegal).

    "Oh so you climbed a big f***king mountain, did ye? There's no sherpa to carry your pack for you now, is there?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Wait til they find out Jason Black climbed Mount Everest (he's a minor celebrity in Donegal).

    "Oh so you climbed a big f***king mountain, did ye? There's no sherpa to carry your pack for you now, is there?"
    Summited K2 as well in 2018, much tougher than Everest. Over 4,000 people have summited Everest, only around 400 have reached the top of K2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    enricoh wrote: »
    I thought the model would keep the lads motivated- she didn't even get as far as the barracks!!

    Once I spotted her I said she won't last an hour :pac:

    Fair play to her for giving it a go!

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Summited K2 as well in 2018, much tougher than Everest. Over 4,000 people have summited Everest, only around 400 have reached the top of K2.

    Yeah and the death rate on K2 is something else, I think 1 in 4 who attempt it lose their life. A good few summit it but lose their lives on the way down like Ger McDonnell in 2008



    Good program last night. Pity the young taxi driver lad bailed so early, he was good for a laugh while it lasted.

    Noticed that series 2 is 8 episodes long as opposed to 6 episodes for the first one, good stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Noticed that series 2 is 8 episodes long as opposed to 6 episodes for the first one, good stuff.

    Oh, deadly. That's great news :D

    We all watched it again at lunchtime in work today, we'd great craic looking at civilians go through it and fair fvcks to them.

    I said it earlier in the thread (season 1), this is as close to the real thing you're going to put civilians through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    I enjoyed last night's episode. The DS take no sh1t as I would expect. I said it last season and I'll say it again. They are alot tougher on the participants than the SAS channel 4 version. Unfortunately the channel 4 version has ended up with 2 men and 2 women on the final for the last 2 seasons. If this is supposed to be on ability then one would not expect a man vs women in every final every season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I enjoyed last night's episode. The DS take no sh1t as I would expect. I said it last season and I'll say it again. They are alot tougher on the participants than the SAS channel 4 version. Unfortunately the channel 4 version has ended up with 2 men and 2 women on the final for the last 2 seasons. If this is supposed to be on ability then one would not expect a man vs women in every final every season.

    I haven't seen the SAS show, this one is so bloody good and exactly like the real thing that I've no desire to watch the SAS version.

    Although I've seen Ant Middleton on a few shows, he comes across like a decent sort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    In fairness, if every little scrote with say 5 previous convictions were made to do this for a week by order of the court, the convictions wouldn't be stacking up thereafter.
    How could you make them do this? As in, what would you do to compel them?? You can't make anyone do anything they don't want to, that's part of the reason people even commit crimes. Because like, what are you going to do about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    How could you make them do this? As in, what would you do to compel them?? You can't make anyone do anything they don't want to, that's part of the reason people even commit crimes. Because like, what are you going to do about it.

    Double their sentence if they don't.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Oh, deadly. That's great news :D

    We all watched it again at lunchtime in work today, we'd great craic looking at civilians go through it and fair fvcks to them.

    I said it earlier in the thread (season 1), this is as close to the real thing you're going to put civilians through.

    It was pretty full on alright. Can you tell us about the scratch, when you went through it how many hours did it last and what sort of stuff did they have ye doing? And is it a one off or something that happens regularly when you're in the army?

    Think you wold enjoy the SAS version, season 7 just finished so the episodes should up on Channel 4 on demand still. Its mainly filmed in the Scottish highlands and Isle of Skye by the looks of it. They had them doing some mad stuff like abseling down waterfalls, rope bridges across a gorge and simulated drowning in a fast moving river. They had an undercover DS with the group too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    It was pretty full on alright. Can you tell us about the scratch, when you went through it how many hours did it last and what sort of stuff did they have ye doing? And is it a one off or something that happens regularly when you're in the army?

    Not to be answering for Mak, just my own observation. Plus Mak would have done Scratch back in the day when it was only an Itch and probably rougher :pac:

    The version of scratch you saw was a toned down version of the real thing, purely because weapons, military specific kit, tactics, skills (maybe H&S :pac:) have been removed from it.

    Saying that, what you saw was accurate and enough to completely fcuk you, the principles are the same despite the military aspect being removed. If you put the effort in like the group last night, you'd be bunched.

    Most soldiers have done scratch a number of times while in Recruit training, career courses or just because your Unit felt like a "bonding day". It is not exclusive to SOF Selection Course.

    I have been (un)fortunate to have undergone it about 6 times in two decades (longest was probably 8hrs or so) it's not a "regular" thing but it's not designed to be. I have also been a DS on a number of Recruit & career course Scratch's.

    I will caveat that by saying "scratch" is designed as "an introduction or refresher to operating on the ground". It's purpose is to physically and mentally push you past your percieved limits, to hear, understand and execute orders under all types of physical and mental pressures. To let you see the strengths and weaknesses of your kit, yourself, your buddy and your military skills.

    We also regularly do a thing called "Battle PT" which is pretty much a more structured and shorter (maybe 2 hrs) affair. All your fighting kit on while crawling, dragging tyres, logs, sandbags, etc etc.

    At the start, you are dreading it but by the end you are loving it.

    Edit: Depending what environment scratch is taking place in will depend on what you do.

    *In General* Kit wise: Boots, combat uniform, 3kg kevlar helmet, 5kg rifle or 14kg machinegun, SRAAW, at least 10kg of full front line blank ammunition, 10-15kg battle vest with all your kit inside, 15-20kg small daysack on your back. It can be heavier or lighter than that.

    Then you have all the extra stuff, tree trunks, logs, tractor tyres, jerry cans of water, sandbags etc etc.

    The river you saw at the start is used for Scratch in that area, it's along a short 10Km route and its a bastard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Not to be answering for Mak, just my own observation. Plus Mak would have done Scratch back in the day when it was only an Itch and probably rougher :pac:
    .

    I think its time for me to go, daily I'm reminded I'm an old fart now :o

    Sure the first time I done scratch Lugnaquilla was only a speed bump on the way to Glendalough, the arch in McKee was only a mouse hole and Tyre (Lebanon) was only a bicycle tube.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Best rte show I've seen in a long time. Very good to watch.

    I came back from the ad break and missed the start - what were they pouring the bottles of water over some of their heads for? They said it was a lesson hard learned, but what was that mistake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭blueberrypie


    They are not allowed bring water to hydrate, personally I felt it was humiliating to empty it over each others heads rather than just be seen to dump it.

    All part of the hard man/ try to break you mentality.
    I am a softie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    They are not allowed bring water to hydrate, personally I felt it was humiliating to empty it over each others heads rather than just be seen to dump it.

    All part of the hard man/ try to break you mentality.
    I am a softie.

    I thought it was because they were told to have their water bottles filled to the top?

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Was Jason Black in it from the start?? There was no mention of him in episode 1. I didn’t think they bring in new participants so he must have been one that went unnoticed??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Was Jason Black in it from the start?? There was no mention of him in episode 1. I didn’t think they bring in new participants so he must have been one that went unnoticed??

    Is he number 21?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Is he number 21?

    Yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I thought it was because they were told to have their water bottles filled to the top?

    I'd say this was the case, no one wants a dehydrated soldier on the ground. I've never heard of a soldier being told not to carry water in a water bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭blueberrypie


    Mantis Toboggan
    Quote:


    I thought it was because they were told to have their water bottles filled to the top?


    ya i was clearly only half watching it. The bottles weren't filled to the top.
    They wanted them to rehydrate as opposed to me thinking they wanted them to be dehydrated.


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