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Special Forces ultimate hell week
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Ok hands up here, I'm an Irish soldier with 34 years service.
I'm really enjoying the show, the instructors are very realistic. All the shouting & cursing and the military jargon is all 100% spot on, its EXACTLY how recruit training and a lot of career courses go.
Which brings me to a small point, this is like ordinary recruit training not SF. They couldn't possibly replicate ARW selection on civilians. All the rest pretty much reflects my experience.
Last nights episode was excellent, particularly the river crossing and jumping off the jumping off the bridge, we've all done that. The screaming, the beasting, cursing, getting your stuff f*cked around the billet (or at you, esp if your admin in the field is going to let you or your buddies down).. All that stuff on the show is very real, but its a very small fraction of the stuff which breaks a civilian and builds the soldier.
They haven't got uniform, kit and weapons inspections after crawling through mud and water all day and night, and the inspections go on all day and night, esp kit and weapons inspections when you're on the ground, and God help you if you mess up there!. Nothing that show is covering could prepare you for that!.
Excellent show, well done RTE. (I haven't seen the British version)
I suspect Dale Doback is or was a soldier or you've had some kind of experience with the military (Snow Garden wasn't).I imagine the physical tests in the selection/evaluation process are very rigorous and exhausting but I doubt they are putting blacks bags on candidate's heads, constantly shouting/cursing and making them do silly stuff. They are professionals and expect professional tests of physical endurance and decision making under duress but this show is pure Reality TV which makes for fun viewing I suppose.
100% wrong.
Actually we'll make that 100 million % wrong.. You're wronger
than wrong 
A few people here objected to the constant cursing and shouting, or you think its unrealistic. Military training is way, way tougher than the show is showing. Way tougher, but when you get through all that you've had the best days of your life and made the best friends you'll ever make, and you would and are willing to die for them.
When I retire I know I'll wish I could do it all over again from day one, every bit of it.0 -
Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »Ok hands up here, I'm an Irish soldier with 34 years service.
I'm really enjoying the show, the instructors are very realistic. All the shouting & cursing and the military jargon is all 100% spot on, its EXACTLY how recruit training and a lot of career courses go.
Which brings me to a small point, this is like ordinary recruit training not SF. They couldn't possibly replicate ARW selection on civilians. All the rest pretty much reflects my experience.
Last nights episode was excellent, particularly the river crossing and jumping off the jumping off the bridge, we've all done that. The screaming, the beasting, cursing, getting your stuff f*cked around the billet (or at you, esp if your admin in the field is going to let you or your buddies down).. All that stuff on the show is very real, but its a very small fraction of the stuff which breaks a civilian and builds the soldier.
They haven't got uniform, kit and weapons inspections are crawling through mud and water all day and night, and the inspections go on all day and night, esp kit and weapons inspections when you're on the ground, and God help you if you mess up there!. Nothing that show is covering could prepare you for that!.
Excellent show, well done RTE. (I haven't seen the British version)
I suspect Dale Doback is or was a soldier or you've had some kind of experience with the military (Snow Garden wasn't).
100% wrong.
Actually we'll make that 100 million % wrong.. You're wronger than wrong
Sure didnt I see you in the cookhouse for free food 2 weeks ago
I will echo what you said. Its a good show and I will admit I was expecting a cringefest especially as I know the guys.
But very simply for everyone elses benefit, it's more 'Recruit trainingesque' than SF selection. The only thing SF so far are the instructors.
I expect that will change as the episodes go on but it wont really emulate SF selection. The participants could not be expected to be at that level in such a small timeframe, physically or mentally.
They are also drastically limited to what can be done as the majority of "military skills" which are normally tested are not applicable to this scenario.
Fair fcuks for each and every one of them for giving it a shot. Its easy to sit at home and but I still get the aul "oh sh1t" shivers when Im watching it.
Anyone putting themselves forward for military training should expect to be at a very minimum cold, wet, in pain, confused, disoriented, pissed off and in various stages of shock with a bruised ego and plenty of discomfort and dissapointment.....all day, every day.
However, each challenge brings confidence, mental fortitude, physical robustness, comeraderie and pride.0 -
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Dale Doback wrote: »Sure didnt I see you in the cookhouse for free food 2 weeks ago
The penny drops
I've heard you were cushy as f*ck with recruits
I'm really enjoying the show. I admit I thought it would be a cringe fest when I seen the ads for it and sat down to the first show with a totally negative attitude but that changed rapidly when I seen how accurate the instructors were and thought 'this is the real sh*t', or as close to it as you'll be allowed bring civilians'.
I'm really surprised how easily the instructors sat right back into their old roles as military instructors & leaders.
Answer me this, are the helmets real or airsoft helmets?. The bars for weapons look a little silly but I wonder are they weighted inside to bring them close to the weight of a Steyr.
The leopard crawl in the snow was funny, f*ck how many times do we do that up in Kilbride. But you wouldn't be allowed finish it looking that clean lol
Excellent show, so far a close to 10/10 from me considering we're talking about civilians here.
Kilbride ranges in winter, burrrrrrrrrrr :mad:People think peackeeping is cushy and they are not 100% wrong in the main
Yea should have been out on the early Leb trips ya red arse 0 -
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Mantis Toboggan wrote: »Yeah I have to say I was surprised when Colin fennelly came out about the army.
Show is very good, well produced.
Is there any prize for the winner?
Not even these;
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Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »Kilbride camp/ranges mostly, Blessington and other area's in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains.
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Excellent episode.
Re the unarmed combat, personally I've never seen a situation where a man would have to fight a female soldier. Never even heard of it happening. In a pass/fail situation I'm not entirely confident I could do it.
The instructors are brilliant, so accurate. You couldn't get the best actor in the world to replicate this stuff.
Kilbride in winter, burrrr
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yosser hughes wrote: »What kind of missions? Do Irish soldiers and more particularly the army rangers engage in combat and ultimately kill people? Carry out raids on terrorist cells etc? What about NATO missions? Were Irish soldiers involved in the Balkans for example? Genuinely curious.
With regard to the shouting and insults, I completely get why that's done and have no issue with it. Don't know why some people have a problem with it. It's not the boy scouts.
I think the girl that was an Irish boxing champion has been given too much slack and they seem keen to keep her on.
Really surprised yer man with the beard dropped out so easily in the end.
Good programme overall.
Yes we served in the Balkans (Kosovo & Bosnia). East Timor, Ethiopia, Somalia, Lebanon, Kuwait, Chad, Mali, Liberia, Afghanistan to name just a few.
Re terror cells etc, I'm really not here to discuss all that type of stuff but look at those missions
Yes the girl is getting way too much slack.
The lad with the beard. I was more concerned that nothing was done about his obviously broken nose. I've never been through that particular pipe, there are shorter pipes running under the bridge at Kilbride ranges which I've been through a few times.
In fairness he looked like a big lad, and that looked like a tight squeeze. I personally don't mind tight places, but I'm a big lad like him and I'm not sure I'd have fit there either.
That said I've a different perspective on things, I know I'll never be asked to do something which has never been done before, is humanly impossible or something which my instructors have never done themselves
He wouldn't have the advantage to know all that, and knowing all that I'd have faith in the DS's to get me through it.
I thought that test was genuinely tough for everyone.
They all got a tough going over on the last episode.
The DS's could ramp up the pressure more, lots more but I'd said they're on the edge as to what they can do with civilians. I don't know what time they're up and in action but I've noticed the latest I've seen on the DS's watches (during the balaclava interogation) is 22:30, that would be an early night on the ground for soldiers.0 -
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