Miles fuel (Topaz/Circle K)

JoeA3 · 09-04-2017 7:49pm

VW recommend that you use 98RON in the Golf R so I'd be interested in trying this if it actually is 98RON. Guys in the uk claim mpg is better and the car is more responsive on the dearer stuff. Apparently the ECU defects lower quality fuel and holds back some power as a consequence so I'd be curious to find out for myself.

hoodie6029 · 09-04-2017 8:14pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Considering people will pay â‚¬20k to save â‚¬200 a year in motor tax I can't see any market for "expensive" premium fuel.

9 years into the new tax system I can't believe this argument is still being wheeled out.

jca · 09-04-2017 8:29pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

hoodie6029 wrote: »

9 years into the new tax system I can't believe this argument is still being wheeled out.

People are still doing it, buying the daysul instead of the petrol for the chape tax. First question I'm asked when I say I've a petrol car is "how much is de tax on her?" Followed shortly by a sigh when I say it's €390.

landmarkjohn · 10-04-2017 11:27am

Atari Jaguar

pajor wrote: »

I would think 98 RON is better for motorbikes though..?

I would expect it to be noticeable.

Back in the old days when the choice was 4 star or Unleaded when I put 4 star in the bike you could feel the power increase immediately.

(high performance Kawasaki in-line 4 cylinder 16V)

fancy pigeon · 10-04-2017 11:43am

Would they ever bring in premium agri diesel, wouldn't mind trying it out on the International!

Cheensbo · 10-04-2017 2:23pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

My car would only love some 98ron, eagerly awaiting this, the bottles of octane booster are a pain in the hole.

10-04-2017 2:50pm

Almost all of the modern cars employ a knock sensor and will retard the ignition if serious pinking occurs. If I was driving a TSi/GTi with many red letters, 1.0 Ecoboost 125 PS etc. it would most certain at least try the higher octane stuff.

In my own car (SAAB) the low pressure boosted models are designed for E95 and an Aero or 2.0T for E98. The manual says that E95 can also be used but may result in reduced performance and fuel economy under certain driving conditions. Looking at it ignition mapping in the ECU the higher boost models are definitely more aggressively tuned to take advantage of fuel with higher octane rating.

pa990 · 11-04-2017 7:42pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

I've a diesel, and I add a cetane improver at every fill up.

If they offer 60 cetane Diesel, I will try it, at least I'll know what cetane level I'm using instead of adding 2ehn to add a few points to the fuel, as I currently do.

It'll all depend on the price.

If it's just regular diesel with some pixie dust with the same cetane, I'll continue with regular diesel and my additive.

Ded_Zebra · 11-04-2017 8:39pm

What a load of smack. That's not premium fuel at all! Just a marketing gimmick.:rolleyes:

If they get actual premium fuel I might by it.

pa990 · 11-04-2017 8:55pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

What a load of smack. That's not premium fuel at all! Just a marketing gimmick.:rolleyes:

If they get actual premium fuel I might by it.

What bit is smack ?

Ded_Zebra · 11-04-2017 9:20pm

pa990 wrote: »

What bit is smack ?

It's just standard 95 with some other **** thrown in. If it was actually 98 or 102 it would be worth a premium.

pa990 · 11-04-2017 9:33pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

It's just standard 95 with some other **** thrown in. If it was actually 98 or 102 it would be worth a premium.

Did you read the same thread I just did.

Miles plus has 98 ron across Europe.
Miles has 95 ron

All depends on what we are offered.
Is the 98ron smack ?

Also smack is added to diesel to raise its cetane value to make it a premium fuel.
That particular smack is called 2-ehn.

Ded_Zebra · 11-04-2017 9:39pm

jimgoose wrote: »

Bullshit. It's 95 RON just like the usual stuff. "By adding multi-functional additives, that decrease friction and cleans your engine, our fuel miles will take you further on every liter." - this is a gouging exercise.

This bit

pa990 · 11-04-2017 9:58pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

This bit

I think you're being selective in what you're reading.

The op is talking about the eventual introduction of premium petrol and diesel.
Petrol with 98ron, and diesel with 55 or 60 cetane. Compared with the current 95ron / 51 cetane.

Standard fuel, will be standard fuel, but hopefully there will be again the option of premium /super fuel.

I have noticed in cork that topaz on the lower glanmire road, had it's tanks and pumps replaced.

The pumps each have 4 fuel nossels. Presumably for the introduction of premium fuels. This is a company operated site, conversely, topaz on victoria road. Cork, recently changed its pumps, going from 3 nossels per pump to 2.
And that is a dealer owned and operated station.

millington · 12-04-2017 11:01am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Cheensbo wrote: »

My car would only love some 98ron, eagerly awaiting this, the bottles of octane booster are a pain in the hole.

x2 I'm not fussed about the diesel but I'd likea better petrol option.

I've seen the effects of Irish petrol on performance cars and it's very noticable. From increased knock to downright not running correctly.

Cheensbo · 12-04-2017 11:29am

NO.. Bog standard for me

millington wrote: »

x2 I'm not fussed about the diesel but I'd likea better petrol option.

I've seen the effects of Irish petrol on performance cars and it's very noticable. From increased knock to downright not running correctly.

To be fair we don't have it that bad, my car has a large following in NZ and Russia, and from reading info from owners in these countries they have awful problems due to fuel quality, lots of cases of detonation & general poor running. Some of them have reported mid 80s octane levels in fuel...

Actual 98 would be sweet though as I could dial in a little more boost without worrying about blowing the ringlands to shít.

Ubbquittious · 12-04-2017 11:48am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Can't wait to pour somma this into my Hilux

mikeecho · 12-04-2017 12:31pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

I posted back at the start saying that it'll cost circa 11￠ extra per litre for the super dupper stuff.

I created this thread in relation to the milesplus fuels, not the regular miles fuels, which are pretty much what has been on offer the whole time.

mikeecho · 15-04-2017 2:19pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjknhwcQXU

milesPlus diesel is 60cetane

Tea drinker · 15-04-2017 3:15pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

pa990 wrote: »

Did you read the same thread I just did.

Miles plus has 98 ron across Europe.
Miles has 95 ron

All depends on what we are offered.
Is the 98ron smack ?

Also smack is added to diesel to raise its cetane value to make it a premium fuel.
That particular smack is called 2-ehn.

They said in the article/blurb they are offering 95.
There's no way to know if they are ever going to introduce 98 into paddyland

mikeecho · 15-04-2017 6:45pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Tea drinker wrote: »

They said in the article/blurb they are offering 95.
There's no way to know if they are ever going to introduce 98 into paddyland

98 is in the pipeline, according to info coming from people in TOPAZ

Tea drinker · 30-04-2017 2:00pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

98 is in the pipeline, according to info coming from people in TOPAZ

That would be pretty cool if to comes to pass. Sure higher octane, it's more expensive, but my limited experience it gives more MPG so it's still a cost but not all gone out the exhaust pipe.

pred racer · 30-04-2017 2:59pm

pa990 wrote: »

I've a diesel, and I add a cetane improver at every fill up.

If they offer 60 cetane Diesel, I will try it, at least I'll know what cetane level I'm using instead of adding 2ehn to add a few points to the fuel, as I currently do.

It'll all depend on the price.

If it's just regular diesel with some pixie dust with the same cetane, I'll continue with regular diesel and my additive.

I'm curious, what additive do you use and what benefit do you get from it?

pa990 · 30-04-2017 9:27pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

pred racer wrote: »

I'm curious, what additive do you use and what benefit do you get from it?

I use "2 ethylhexyl nitrate" (2-ehn)

Engine runs quieter and smother. I've read studies that show higher cetane fuels provide better power delivery and increased mpg.

I do notice a difference when I fill up and not use it.

Tea drinker · 14-07-2017 4:51pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

I've tried the "Miles " fuel and find it gives slightly better running and increased power.
Range is definitely increased too, probably a lot more than 3%.

Any more news on when "Miles Plus" is coming?

Cheensbo · 14-07-2017 5:08pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

Topaz are quite good replying on social media to questions, But if you ask about the plus fuels you won't hear a word from them... not even a denial or a wishy washy standard response.

This i can confirm. I asked an unrelated question and got an almost immediate response, then asked about 98 fuel, and specifically miles plus - and the line went cold.

Cheensbo · 14-07-2017 6:03pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

I think that aren't going to mention anything about 98ron untill after the full rollout of regular miles and the new branding, Then start a whole new advertising campaign about how they are the only supplier of super plus fuels.

Btw, the super fuels won't be available in every station, just the ones that have 4 holding tanks.

Great info, cheers!

I just hope its actually going to be 98, and that it's going to be sold somewhere near me

dar83 · 14-07-2017 6:45pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Cheensbo wrote: »

Great info, cheers!

I just hope its actually going to be 98, and that it's going to be sold somewhere near me

Here Here!

Is it sad I'm genuinely a little excited about the potential for proper fuel choice here once again?

Eric Cartman · 14-07-2017 6:48pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

dar83 wrote: »

Here Here!

Is it sad I'm genuinely a little excited about the potential for proper fuel choice here once again?

Payday would definitely see the V8 collection getting some premium fuels.

Esel · 14-07-2017 8:14pm

What's the general opinion on octane booster additives?

Tea drinker · 15-07-2017 8:26am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Esel wrote: »

What's the general opinion on octane booster additives?

The existing miles fuel is better than any octane booster I've tried.
What have I tried? A few of these small bottles you can buy in halfords.
I know it's not billed as an octane booster but Dipetaine is good too, adds a fair bit of urgency apart from it's cleaning properties.
Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I'll probably have sold the car by the time high octane fuel returns to Ireland!

Leonard Hofstadter · 15-07-2017 11:53am

I've read through this thread and to be honest I'm still confused.

Can anyone confirm whether there is any 98 RON fuel on sale at Topaz yet? I'm bringing my car back to Ireland next week for about a fortnight and it is supposed to use 98 RON so although it will run fine on 95 RON, I'd prefer to use 98 RON if it's available.

Del2005 · 15-07-2017 12:05pm

captainspeed wrote: »

I've read through this thread and to be honest I'm still confused.

Can anyone confirm whether there is any 98 RON fuel on sale at Topaz yet? I'm bringing my car back to Ireland next week for about a fortnight and it is supposed to use 98 RON so although it will run fine on 95 RON, I'd prefer to use 98 RON if it's available.

No RON 98 anywhere in the Republic.

HJL · 15-07-2017 12:49pm

Del2005 wrote: »

No RON 98 anywhere in the Republic.

Super Unleaded here, Maxol

Leonard Hofstadter · 15-07-2017 12:50pm

Del2005 wrote: »

No RON 98 anywhere in the Republic.

Thanks, that's disappointing, it's not 'premium' fuel unless it's Super Unleaded really. I would happily pay the extra 11 cent a litre for higher octane stuff but feck paying another €7 for a tank it if it's just the same octane as regular fuel is.

I think from the earlier posts in this thread that they will be bringing out proper higher octane fuel eventually though?

mikeecho · 18-07-2017 9:45am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Bad news.

milesPlus will only be 95 , (with extra lubrizol)

It won't be a 98ron fuel

Expect a public announcement in a few weeks, it'll begin rolling out in August

dar83 · 18-07-2017 9:58am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Well that's just a tad more than disappointing...

What a load of b0ll0x. Yet again another reason to hate Marketing people. :P

Edit: Also good luck to them justifying any extra cost to the consumer on that one! ha. Talk about setting yourself up to fail.

Cheensbo · 18-07-2017 10:49am

NO.. Bog standard for me

Hi Cheensbo, thank you for your message and i'm very sorry you haven't received a response until now. Miles PLUS will be visible on sites during August and continue rolling out until next year. For petrol it will based on an 95 octane (unleaded 95) with a higher concentration of our next generation fuel additive. The performance results of this new unleaded fuel are currently being evaluated & we are excited about the prospect of launching this new fuel that will provide more power & acceleration for both petrol & diesel customers. This will be the only premium fuel available in the ROI. We will release more details about this over the coming weeks…

So its only 95...

mikeecho · 18-07-2017 4:38pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Cheensbo wrote: »

Hi Cheensbo, thank you for your message and i'm very sorry you haven't received a response until now. Miles PLUS will be visible on sites during August and continue rolling out until next year. For petrol it will based on an 95 octane (unleaded 95) with a higher concentration of our next generation fuel additive. The performance results of this new unleaded fuel are currently being evaluated & we are excited about the prospect of launching this new fuel that will provide more power & acceleration for both petrol & diesel customers. This will be the only premium fuel available in the ROI. We will release more details about this over the coming weeks…

So its only 95...

Well, that's it in a nutshell, pretty much what I was told.
Bit disappointing.

The diesel plus, will have a few extra points of cetane, if I'm to believe what I'm being told.

Cheensbo · 18-07-2017 4:52pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

Well, that's it in a nutshell, pretty much what I was told.
Bit disappointing.

The diesel plus, will have a few extra points of cetane, if I'm to believe what I'm being told.

Its disappointing because feck knows what this mix is? Could be a drop of dipetane for all i know...

Looks like I will have to continue on with the shot bottles of octane booster so.

My friends in the uk think its gas that we dont have premium fuel here..

mikeecho · 18-07-2017 5:32pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

Cheensbo wrote: »

Its disappointing because feck knows what this mix is? Could be a drop of dipetane for all i know...

Looks like I will have to continue on with the shot bottles of octane booster so.

My friends in the uk think its gas that we dont have premium fuel here..

Its lubrizol, that's the secret ingredient

18-07-2017 5:43pm

"Next generation fuel additive" :rolleyes:

mikeecho · 18-07-2017 5:55pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

cisk wrote: »

"Next generation fuel additive" :rolleyes:

Keropur was becoming so last gen

Special Circumstances · 19-07-2017 9:37am

Cheensbo wrote: »

My friends in the uk think its gas that we dont have premium fuel here..

Premium fuel drives youngfellas shtone mad altogether. Completely disorientated they are forced to perform donuts until the effects wear off.

"We were driving south on the motorway towards Limerick when we noticed, on a parallel road, a bunch of youths with a couple of cars doing donuts.
In other words, they were using their handbrakes to make the car revolve, leaving a figure-of-eight in tyre tread on the road. They sure were smoking those tyres.
Innocent fun on a bright summer evening?

It's true, I read it in the Indo!

Kevin! · 24-08-2017 4:04pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

'milesPLUS from Topaz has arrived!

Following on from our very successful miles fuel launch across Ireland we are delighted to inform you that in addition to our existing miles fuel we will launch our new premium fuel, milesPLUS in 11 pilot sites over the coming weeks.

milesPLUS is our new premium fuel that contains an even higher concentration of additives which delivers even more benefits and better performance for your engine than miles.

Over the last number of years our fuel experts have worked with an industry leading additive supplier to develop a powerful in-fuel additive, proven to provide customers with more power & acceleration, for a superior driving experience.

What are the benefits of milesPLUS ?

MORE POWER & ACCELERATION
CLEANS ENGINE LIKE NEW
REDUCES ENGINE DEPOSIT BUILD UP

Our Diesel Additives

milesPLUS diesel has a higher concentration of cetane & deposit control additives. This new & improved package of additives prevents the build-up of deposits & optimises combustion. milesPLUS diesel boosts cold start performance and reduces knock & noise in diesel engines. Our innovative chemistry is designed to deal with old & new generation diesel engines. Regular use of milesPLUS diesel restores, maintains and improves engine power.

Our Petrol Additives

milesPLUS petrol has a higher concentration of friction modifiers & deposit control additives. This new & improved package of additives keep intake valves clean & clear, resulting in better engine performance. This leads to power & torque maintenance & prevents fuel injector deposits building up in engines. Regular use of milesPLUS petrol restores, maintains and improves engine power and acceleration.

For both diesel & petrol customers, milesPLUS continues to deliver all of the benefits of miles. So as well as providing more power & acceleration, milesPLUS customers can also improve their fuel economy by up to 3%.

milesPLUS Fuel Tests
The changes in engine power, torque, fuel consumption & emissions have been verified by BOSMAL Automotive Research & Development Institute. Both milesPLUS & miles fuels were compared to EU standard fuels not containing additives. Both milesPLUS & miles fuels have been tested in accordance with strictly defined methods and procedures as NEDC (New European Driving Cycle) & WLTC (Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Cycles).

AA Quality Approved
Both milesPLUS & miles fuels are further Quality Approved by AA Ireland, giving you added reassurance. The AA Quality Assurance is a standard that enables us to constantly check the levels of service & the quality of our products against the highest standards in the marketplace.

The price you will be charged for milesPLUS will be advised to you in your normal weekly price notification and will be identified separately on your invoice.

The 11 sites where milesPLUS will be available immediately are listed below

Brennanstown
Ballyboden
Mulhuddart
Dalkey
Westview
Junction 5 M9
Castlecomer Road
Waterford Road
Tivoli
Eastgate
Bohermore'

Recieved this email this afternoon, no mention of octane level though

Cheensbo · 24-08-2017 4:05pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

It's still just 95 unfortunately.

honda boi · 24-08-2017 6:35pm

Hasn't topaz always said it improves up to 3% fuel economy?

Riva10 · 24-08-2017 7:20pm

honda boi wrote: »

Hasn't topaz always said it improves up to 3% fuel economy?

Thats their claim and probably justifies their higher prices

mikeecho · 24-08-2017 7:20pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

9 to 11c more per litre apparently.
Will be interesting to see how more expensive it will be... and how long before it's withdrawn due to lack of interest.

Cheensbo · 24-08-2017 7:34pm

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

how long before it's withdrawn due to lack of interest.

A lot quicker than if it was 98 / super id say, sickening that we are one of very few countries that dont have access to it.

I'd travel & pay for super - but i doubt i will pay 11c extra for the same octane fuel with some sort of dipetane in it.

Miles fuel (Topaz/Circle K)

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