Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

DellyBelly · 27-12-2019 12:10am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Hopefully. Mild weather lower heating bills easier commute to work. Happy Christmas all.

Yes milder the better is what I think most people would like. No rain as well and thst would be the ideal winter weather

esposito · 27-12-2019 12:12am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Hopefully. Mild weather lower heating bills easier commute to work. Happy Christmas all.

No two consecutive winters are the same. Don’t be surprised if there’s a big change come February

Naggdefy · 27-12-2019 12:15am

I think so too. Something like winter 2008/2009 when an SSW set up a wintry February.

Trends can change quickly enough. 26 December..

Gonzo · 27-12-2019 12:23am

Naggdefy wrote: »

I think so too. Something like winter 2008/2009 when an SSW set up a wintry February.

Trends can change quickly enough. 26 December..

that's what we're all hoping for. Hopefully the SSW will happen soon rather than too late in March, it can take a few weeks for SSW's to take an effect if any effect at all. A severe cold spell in early to mid February would do fine. The Beast From The East/Storm Emma was decent but it arrived about a week too late.

Billcarson · 27-12-2019 12:41am

Naggdefy wrote: »

I think so too. Something like winter 2008/2009 when an SSW set up a wintry February.

Trends can change quickly enough. 26 December..

First half of Feb 09 was wintry,second half mild.
But I would take a wintry period like the first half of Feb 09 even though it wasnt too exciting overall but was the best wintry spell from the east at that point for a number of yrs.

Naggdefy · 27-12-2019 12:45am

Billcarson wrote: »

First half of Feb 09 was wintry,second half mild.
But I would take a wintry period like the first half of Feb 09 even though it wasnt too exciting overall but was the best wintry spell from the east at that point for a number of yrs.

In my homeplace (very hilly) we had lying snow up to and on 22 Feb.

ZX7R · 27-12-2019 12:48am

Billcarson wrote: »

First half of Feb 09 was wintry,second half mild.
But I would take a wintry period like the first half of Feb 09 even though it wasnt too exciting overall but was the best wintry spell from the east at that point for a number of yrs.

feb 09 the forgotten beast from the east

Billcarson · 27-12-2019 12:50am

ZX7R wrote: »

feb 09 the forgotten beast from the east

Think it was the best easterly for wintry weather at the time since Feb 91.

ZX7R · 27-12-2019 12:55am

Billcarson wrote: »

Think it was the best easterly for wintry weather at the time since Feb 91.

Another really good cold spell was january 2010,
most forget that one also.

Cork Boy 53 · 27-12-2019 1:02am

ZX7R wrote: »

Another really good cold spell was january 2010,
most forget that one also.

And I remember there being a very cold spell just before that in mid/late December 2009 though it was nothing compared to what we experienced 12 months later.

Billcarson · 27-12-2019 1:03am

ZX7R wrote: »

Another really good cold spell was january 2010,
most forget that one also.

Yes of course, the last proper January cold spell (although that didn't come from the east). As regards Jan cold spells we haven't had a proper one during the second half of Jan since the 80s. Came close in 2013 to a decent enough one but Britain got the cold That's what we are up against sadly for those who like cold spells.

Billcarson · 27-12-2019 1:07am

New yrs eve 2009 about an hour or so before welcoming in 2010 got fairly heavy snow ,so welcomed in a white new yr. Magical it was.

Snowcover stayed and being topped up at times until around jan10th or so.

ZX7R · 27-12-2019 1:12am

Billcarson wrote: »

Yes of course, the last proper January cold spell (although that didn't come from the east). As regards Jan cold spells we haven't had a proper one during the second half of Jan since the 80s. That's what we are up against sadly for those who like cold spells.

I could not remember to be honest if it came from the east,I remember it started new years eve after mid night heavy rain turned to snow,i believe the 6th jan had snow also as flights in dublin airport were delayed i was flying out to Poland to meet my now wife's family for the first time and to hand out wedding invites :pac:

sryanbruen · 27-12-2019 1:14am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

And I remember there being a very cold spell just before that in mid/late December 2009 though it was nothing compared to what we experienced 12 months later.

Yes and it was the coldest December period in the country since 2000 at the time.

Daily air min temp records for Ireland every day of Dec 2009 to Jan 2011 as I posted in April. The number of days with somewhere recording at least -10C was very notable.

sryanbruen wrote: »

Data from Met Éireann.

January 2010 and December 2010 were generally northerly. There were easterlies on 29 November to 2 December and 9-11 January.

pad199207 · 27-12-2019 1:50am

Billcarson wrote: »

New yrs eve 2009 about an hour or so before welcoming in 2010 got fairly heavy snow ,so welcomed in a white new yr. Magical it was.

Snowcover stayed and being topped up at times until around jan10th or so.

Yup I remember that happening in Naas. It was beautiful

weatherfiend · 27-12-2019 2:55am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So if this verifies basically a repeat of Jan/Feb 2019 then.

Crap!!!!

Graces7 · 27-12-2019 10:30am

Gonzo wrote: »

We appear to be locked in to a potentially prolonged mild spell, right now we have just about everything going against us for cold weather. Looks like the first half of January is going to be mild or very mild

Sounds very very good...

pad199207 · 27-12-2019 10:45am

Graces7 wrote: »

Gonzo wrote: »

We appear to be locked in to a potentially prolonged mild spell, right now we have just about everything going against us for cold weather. Looks like the first half of January is going to be mild or very mild

Sounds very very good...

Yup! If there’s absolutely no chance of decent cold and snow I’ll take very mild over the in between muck!

Elmer Blooker · 27-12-2019 12:23pm

pad199207 wrote: »

No chance whatsoever so bring on 14/15c Fohn conditions (for my location anyway)
I would welcome a good drying warm wind after months of rain and dampness, open all windows to give the house a good airing, heating switched to OFF and the stove stone cold! I given up completely on seeing northern blocking in modern winters so bring on an airflow all the way from the Canaries which in my opinion is the next best thing!
See the chart for exactly one year ago, this continued all way through through February as we all remember ... and the UK recorded the first ever 20c+ during a winter month.
These big mid latitude winter anticyclones once established stay in more or less the same place for weeks on end and are now a permanent fixture of 21st century winters.

Mod Note : Removed Quote as it is attributed to the wrong poster. I think there might have been temporary a glitch in the system , quotes seem to have come out a bit strange in this page.

Oscar Bravo · 27-12-2019 12:33pm

11am December 27th

Finner 13 degrees

Logan Roy · 27-12-2019 12:39pm

Extremely overcast today in Cork, looks like we won’t be seeing the sky til Sunday either.

Oscar Bravo · 27-12-2019 12:49pm

Logan Roy wrote: »

Extremely overcast today in Cork, looks like we won’t be seeing the sky til Sunday either.

Damp misty and murky up here in Castlebar.blustery also.

Gonzo · 27-12-2019 1:48pm

almost mild enough outside to be in a t-shirt. The mildest it's felt since October.

Graces7 · 27-12-2019 2:12pm

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

pad199207 wrote: »

No chance whatsoever so bring on 14/15c Fohn conditions (for my location anyway)
I would welcome a good drying warm wind after months of rain and dampness, open all windows to give the house a good airing, heating switched to OFF and the stove stone cold! I given up completely on seeing northern blocking in modern winters so bring on an airflow all the way from the Canaries which in my opinion is the next best thing!
See the chart for exactly one year ago, this continued all way through through February as we all remember ... and the UK recorded the first ever 20c+ during a winter month.
These big mid latitude winter anticyclones once established stay in more or less the same place for weeks on end and are now a permanent fixture of 21st century winters.

nb I did not say what you quoted me as saying! Would not use such language! Please correct!

Mod Note: For some reason a quote was attributed to the wrong poster, from looking back over previous posts there might have been a glitch in the system temporarily. The quote in question has been removed.

Naggdefy · 27-12-2019 2:35pm

Southerlys like this can be mad in December, with little solar warmth and cloud cover.

You can easily record a max temp at night. Remember Malin Head was 16c at 4am one December night in 2015.

Gonzo · 27-12-2019 3:59pm

Naggdefy wrote: »

Southerlys like this can be mad in December, with little solar warmth and cloud cover.

You can easily record a max temp at night. Remember Malin Head was 16c at 4am one December night in 2015.

It really is annoying. The uppers over the next few days are what we dream of in the summer but rarely ever get. I can only talk about the next 2 weeks but I've a feeling the majority of January will be mild, with the second half of January not as excessively mild as the first half. This very mild pattern is not only effecting us, but also most of Europe and North America, however North America will cool down alot over the next few weeks.

Hooter23 · 27-12-2019 4:21pm

Mild weather is normal in December and even January in this country...It is only when Spring comes that our cold arrives alot of the time...

giveitholly · 27-12-2019 4:34pm

Hooter23 wrote: »

Mild weather is normal in December and even January in this country...It is only when Spring comes that our cold arrives alot of the time...

True usually March/April when we see cold weather

Naggdefy · 27-12-2019 4:36pm

Gonzo wrote: »

It really is annoying. The uppers over the next few days are what we dream of in the summer but rarely ever get. I can only talk about the next 2 weeks but I've a feeling the majority of January will be mild, with the second half of January not as excessively mild as the first half. This very mild pattern is not only effecting us, but also most of Europe and North America, however North America will cool down alot over the next few weeks.

Yes. Record touching possibly in high summer. Even mid 20s in September and 23C or so in April.

Hope this isn't a 1989 type winter when cold hit in March and especially April. Or 1998 with 18.5C recorded in Kery in January and a mini February heatwave in mid February with daytime 16C max and frost free nights. Only to pay for it in April. Generally cold weather hits at sometime and April days in single figures are a pain.

Logan Roy · 27-12-2019 5:07pm

12 degrees and 96% humidity in Cork. Not much of a breeze either. Feeling very mild.

Gonzo · 27-12-2019 5:07pm

Naggdefy wrote: »

Yes. Record touching possibly in high summer. Even mid 20s in September and 23C or so in April.

Generally cold weather hits at sometime and April days in single figures are a pain.

Hopefully June 2020 won't end up like this. We barely broke double digits for the first half of June earlier in the year, it felt much colder than it does right now.

alentejo · 27-12-2019 7:08pm

I suspect winter will commence on the 1st of March

Artane2002 · 27-12-2019 8:11pm

I'm counting on March to deliver the goods because I have absolutely no hope of any snow this winter, not saying we won't get any though.

Say my name · 27-12-2019 8:24pm

Was it a few years ago there was a theory discussed on here that these warm draws of air you often get in this part of the northern hemisphere displaces the cold air in the arctic and perhaps disrupts the polar vortex down the line?
If true it might be just short term pain for long term gain??.

Meteorite58 · 27-12-2019 8:26pm

Low diurnal range today here near Tralee in the steady Southerly cloudy and damp airflow.

High 12.9C / Low 11.7C / 12.1C atm

NASA Sat Pic from earlier today.

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catrat12 · 27-12-2019 8:31pm

Just put out the bin there
Feeling very mild for end of December especially for the Dublin mountains was in a tee shirt

esposito · 27-12-2019 8:51pm

Artane2002 wrote: »

I'm counting on March to deliver the goods because I have absolutely no hope of any snow this winter, not saying we won't get any though.

Odds wise I’d offer something like this as regards a cold spell. Just for fun.(And no, I’m not a bookie!)

1st - 15th Jan: 100/1

16th - 30th Jan: 33/1

31st - 14th Feb: 8/1

15th - 29th Feb: 13/2

1st - 15th Mar: 5/2

16th - 30th Mar: evens:pac:

Meteorite58 · 27-12-2019 8:54pm

esposito wrote: »

Odds wise I’d offer something like this as regards a cold spell. Just for fun.(And no, I’m not a bookie!)

1st - 15th Jan: 100/1

16th - 30th Jan: 33/1

31st - 14th Feb: 8/1

15th - 29th Feb: 13/2

1st - 15th Mar: 5/2

16th - 30th Mar: evens:pac:

I will have 33 ponies on the 16th to the 30th, great odds

esposito · 27-12-2019 9:06pm

Meteorite58 wrote: »

I will have 33 ponies on the 16th to the 30th, great odds

Feeling generous at this time of year

Birdnuts · 27-12-2019 10:33pm

alentejo wrote: »

I suspect winter will commence on the 1st of March

The PV always breaks down at some stage - what we don't want is a re-run of last year with stupid warmth all winter leading to a cold chilly May/June:(

Graces7 · 28-12-2019 7:16am

Made me shiver just reading that! Bitter cold here and a wild icy wind that would flay the skin off your face.... It was mild here yesterday too but that has changed very fast. Back to hot water bottles and put the blanket back on the bed
:rolleyes:
West Mayo offshore

catrat12 wrote: »

Just put out the bin there
Feeling very mild for end of December especially for the Dublin mountains was in a tee shirt

Oscar Bravo · 28-12-2019 7:20am

Graces7 wrote: »

Made me shiver just reading that! Bitter cold here and a wild icy wind that would flay the skin off your face.... It was mild here yesterday too but that has changed very fast. Back to hot water bottles and put the blanket back on the bed
:rolleyes:
West Mayo offshore

6am reports most stations at 10 or 11 degrees. Hardly a wild icy wind in all fairness.....

Graces7 · 28-12-2019 8:03am

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

6am reports most stations at 10 or 11 degrees. Hardly a wild icy wind in all fairness.....

Come out here and say that .. I mean it. That wind has a bite like ice and is wild. Can barely get out of the door here.

So I repeat... Wild icy wind …

West Maaaaaaayo offshore

Be blessed and at peace. Signing out. End of discussion. Here for email always.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 28-12-2019 9:45am

9.3c and no wind here at the moment. It seems a mild new Year is in the offing,

Rock Lesnar · 28-12-2019 9:48am

Fairly cloudy and breezy but dry and mild morning here in meath, just getting the bike out for a spin

zerosugarbuzz · 28-12-2019 9:51am

Don’t know what the temp is but feels very mild in Dublin.

DOCARCH · 28-12-2019 10:06am

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Don’t know what the temp is but feels very mild in Dublin.

13.0c atm in Dublin 16.

appledrop · 28-12-2019 10:14am

Haven't ventured out yet today as enjoying the longer sleeps over Christmas but couldnt believe how mild it was in Dublin yesterday.

It was great to be out in it for most of the day.

DOCARCH · 28-12-2019 10:22am

Feeling very mild this morning in Dublin 16. 13.7c now. Must be getting some sort of fohn effect with proximity to Dublin Mountains. Dry air too. RH of 48% atm.

Goldfinch8 · 28-12-2019 11:57am

A slight reprieve this morning in mid Mayo from our life under the damp grey conveyor belt of the past few days. A few faint patches of blue and higher level cloud at the moment with a few con trails on view. The sun is struggling to make an impact through the cloud but it is welcome to see after the recent miserable conditions. Don't have much trust in it lasting however as life next to a meandering Atlantic front means that the rain and drizzle is never too far away. Time to take advantage and get a post Christmas ramble in.
10c and breezy also.

Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

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