Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

ChelseaRentBoy · 29-05-2020 5:19pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

Oh the irony.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 5:19pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Yet, here you are...bitching and moaning at my post. Pantomime.

Er no, defending myself from your “ from you?” Cheeky post :rolleyes:

growleaves · 29-05-2020 5:20pm

Benimar wrote: »

The law doesn’t exist, that’s the point!

He was trying to act the tough man by saying he was breaking the law, when there is no law to break.

There is such a multiplication of incoherent and contradictory regulations on ordinary behaviour that this 'Aha!' moment is less impressive than it sounds. There are people breaking laws without knowing it and there are other people adhering to laws that don't even exist.

The solution is to return to normality - not a new abnormal of semi-permanent totalitarianism but to the natural and relaxed life that suits Irish people well.

Muscles Schultz · 29-05-2020 5:21pm

We’ll be the laughing stock of Europe if the lifting of these measures continues at such a snails pace.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 5:21pm

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Oh the irony.

You don’t see any of my posts bitching and moaning at anyone who crave a bit of freedom.

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 5:23pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

I do have to agree with this. OP hasnt even told us if he wants things to open quickly, slowly, or not open at all. Weird

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 5:23pm

Muscles Schultz wrote: »

We’ll be the laughing stock of Europe if the lifting of these measures continues at such a snails pace.

We already are.

Lol MOL "We are not endangering lives, we are just following some idiotic science that exists only in Ireland"

KrustyUCC · 29-05-2020 5:31pm

Mary Wilson getting no change out of Michael O'Leary

She never answered his point about why our science is different to every other country in relation to hairdressers etc

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 5:34pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I do have to agree with this. OP hasnt even told us if he wants things to open quickly, slowly, or not open at all. Weird

It's weird that you haven't noticed that I've previously stated that I'd prefer if restrictions were eased more quickly. I'm not getting worked up about it though. I support the government's approach. If it moves quicker than the existing phasing, happy days.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 5:36pm

Michael O'Leary is about three or four weeks away from calling in the lawyers and launching a significant legal challenge. Mark my words.

He will continue to make public remarks about the government in the meantime and build up a case. But he is getting close to considering other avenues.

Ryanair and O'Leary have launched legal action many times before. He isn't going to stand down.

Ryanair won a court case against Skyscanner in January

stephenjmcd · 29-05-2020 5:38pm

Hell of alot of pressure coming on last few days

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266406746354057218?s=19

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 5:41pm

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Hell of alot of pressure coming on last few days

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266406746354057218?s=19

At this rate, only crowd who doesnt want to lift restrictions faster will be the 15% in this thread.

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 5:42pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Mr Varadkar said that in terms of reducing the two-metre social distancing rule to one metre, it is "too soon for that."

He said that Covid-19 would need to be suppressed "much more" in the community and the numbers would need to improve for a longer period in order to change the guidance.

"Two metres is safer than 1.5, and 1.5 is safer than one."

How much more suppressed does he expect the numbers to get?

More vagueness like Holohan - as low as possible - with nobody knowing what they mean

An answer on when it will change is more likely to come from political voices. The CMO will not say anything so casual, ever. The extended roadmap and current trends makes it looks like they want to wipe it out.

growleaves · 29-05-2020 5:42pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

At this rate, only crowd who doesnt want to lift restrictions faster will be the 15% in this thread.

Lol

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 5:45pm

Ibec speaking out today is a huge blow to the government and the phased plan.

Ibec is the largest business group and largest lobbying organisation in Ireland. It represents business of all sizes spanning every sector of the economy, together employing 70% of the private sector workforce in Ireland.

foxy_j · 29-05-2020 5:46pm

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 5:47pm

RobitTV wrote: »

Michael O'Leary is about three or four weeks away from calling in the lawyers and launching a significant legal challenge. Mark my words.

He will continue to make public remarks about the government in the meantime and build up a case. But he is getting close to considering other avenues.

Ryanair and O'Leary have launched legal action many times before. He isn't going to stand down.

Ryanair won a court case against Skyscanner in January

Michael O'Leary always has plenty to say and never about Ryanair's failings and flaws. It seems he's repeated this at least a dozen times and as always with him it's a bottom line thing.

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 5:47pm

I am unsure if was reported but just heard on newstalk

Ireland to get 2bn out of 750bn EU recovery fund announced, implemented in July.

2 LOUSY billion.

Perhaps explains why places will be opened ahead of schedule along with Leo confirming school opening today.

Clonmel1000 · 29-05-2020 5:48pm

I know this is an anonymous forum but honestly if anyone knew me and were told 6 months ago that I’d agree with MOL and bloody IBEC I’d have laughed at them and called them insane but yet here I am on their side. New normal? New madness this is.

retro:electro · 29-05-2020 5:51pm

RobitTV wrote: »

There is already a certain 'ethnic minority' who are out and about and won't be hounded by the Gardai and sent packing back home.

The Gardai will be nowhere to be seen when they arrive. But they will turn back the well behaved people without fear.

A lot of the same minority seem incapable of forming orderly queues outside shops as well. I’ve lost count at how many times I’ve seen them get out of their car, pass the queue of shoppers waiting and waltz right through into the shop with no hesitation from security guard. And I highly doubt they are essential workers. One rule for them and another for mugs like the rest of us.

Benimar · 29-05-2020 5:52pm

foxy_j wrote: »

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

I know many here will tell you to ‘live your life’ but it’s not that straightforward. If there are only 4 of you outdoors and it’s within 5km you aren’t breaking any restriction.

You aren’t supposed to enter someone’s house though.

Personally, I wouldn’t go if you will have to enter the house but I’m sure others have different views.

Mike3287 · 29-05-2020 5:52pm

foxy_j wrote: »

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

99.99% you wont catch Covid

Go for it

JPCN1 · 29-05-2020 5:55pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am unsure if was reported but just heard on newstalk

Ireland to get 2bn out of 750bn EU recovery fund announced, implemented in July.

2 LOUSY billion.

Perhaps explains why places will be opened ahead of schedule along with Leo confirming school opening today.

I think before we get it taxation of MNC's is supposed to be on the table again. If thats the case then a big thanks to the EU once again in times of crisis.

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 5:55pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am unsure if was reported but just heard on newstalk

Ireland to get 2bn out of 750bn EU recovery fund announced, implemented in July.

2 LOUSY billion.

Perhaps explains why places will be opened ahead of schedule along with Leo confirming school opening today.

There's a big list of measures already available and that €2bn was reported way back in April.

https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/financial-liquidity-supports-irish-businesses-smes-government-banks-covid19

the kelt · 29-05-2020 5:56pm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am unsure if was reported but just heard on newstalk

Ireland to get 2bn out of 750bn EU recovery fund announced, implemented in July.

2 LOUSY billion.

Perhaps explains why places will be opened ahead of schedule along with Leo confirming school opening today.

There is an unease in Europe of handing money over to countries who aren’t willing to help themselves.

Why should german citizens contribute to pay people in Ireland to sit at home on 350 a week because the government is afraid to make a decision.

Think about it, if the roles were reversed and say Greece decided to sit on their holes for half the summer would you be happy working away ? The eu will help countries who at least attempt to help themselves

Muscles Schultz · 29-05-2020 5:56pm

foxy_j wrote: »

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

In this case, Simon Harris has recommended adult nappies.

https://twitter.com/simonharristd/status/126627236057689702?s=21

hamburgham · 29-05-2020 5:57pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

I know this is an anonymous forum but honestly if anyone knew me and were told 6 months ago that I’d agree with MOL and bloody IBEC I’d have laughed at them and called them insane but yet here I am on their side. New normal? New madness this is.

Even Richard Boyd Barrett was making sense this morning, he was saying that he’s been trying without success for two months to get minutes of NPHET meetings.
Always a fan of Michael though, won’t hear a word said against him!

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 5:58pm

the kelt wrote: »

There is an unease in Europe of handing money over to countries who aren’t willing to help themselves.

Why should german citizens contribute to pay people in Ireland to sit at home on 350 a week because the government is afraid to make a decision.

Think about it, if the roles were reversed and say Greece decided to sit on their holes for half the summer would you be happy working away ?

Paschal, about that time, did say we are going to go to the markets instead for funding what we need.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 5:58pm

In a letter sent to the Taoiseach and other senior cabinet members today, seen by RTÉ News, chief executive Danny McCoy said the organisation is seeking the "safe return of the majority of businesses before the end of June".

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 5:58pm

the kelt wrote: »

There is an unease in Europe of handing money over to countries who aren’t willing to help themselves.

Why should german citizens contribute to pay people in Ireland to sit at home on 350 a week because the government is afraid to make a decision.

Think about it, if the roles were reversed and say Greece decided to sit on their holes for half the summer would you be happy working away ? The eu will help countries who at least attempt to help themselves

If those Greeks took a 5 month lockdown approach and were sitting on their ars* collecting 350 a week i wouldnt even vote to give them 1 euro.

Lazy greeks. Lol afraid of a virus. Well no such thing as free money.

JL555 · 29-05-2020 5:58pm

foxy_j wrote: »

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

Bring your own cutlery, plates and glass. Also, for your loo needs, look no further, I have sourced some adult nappies for you, you might need to get them expedited by special courier though: https://mikefran1.wixsite.com/adult-nappies

hope this helps.

foxy_j · 29-05-2020 5:59pm

Benimar wrote: »

I know many here will tell you to ‘live your life’ but it’s not that straightforward. If there are only 4 of you outdoors and it’s within 5km you aren’t breaking any restriction.

You aren’t supposed to enter someone’s house though.

Personally, I wouldn’t go if you will have to enter the house but I’m sure others have different views.

Ya I mean I think if it was for a quick social drink or something it'd probably be alright but if we're eating and drinking I'll have to go into the house.

I also should mention the person who's house it is is a nurse who was on a covid ward but is now moved back to the diabetes ward. So less of a risk but still 🤔

hamburgham · 29-05-2020 6:00pm

retro:electro wrote: »

A lot of the same minority seem incapable of forming orderly queues outside shops as well. I’ve lost count at how many times I’ve seen them get out of their car, pass the queue of shoppers waiting and waltz right through into the shop with no hesitation from security guard. And I highly doubt they are essential workers. One rule for them and another for mugs like the rest of us.

I don’t blame them, it’s ridiculous.I wish I’d the nerve.The only reason it’s working at all is because the weather is good.

foxy_j · 29-05-2020 6:01pm

JL555 wrote: »

Bring your own cutlery, plates and glass. Also, for your loo needs, look no further, I have sourced some adult nappies for you, you might need to get them expedited by special courier though: https://mikefran1.wixsite.com/adult-nappies

hope this helps.

Great idea 🤣 wonder do they do xxl for my husband?!! 😅

JL555 · 29-05-2020 6:03pm

foxy_j wrote: »

Great idea 🤣 wonder do they do xxl for my husband?!! 😅

Lol, sorry, I couldn't resist

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 6:05pm

Update:

- 6 deaths RIP
- 39 new cases

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 6:06pm

RobitTV wrote: »

Update:

- 6 deaths RIP
- 39 new cases

Dropping again nicely, rip to the 6 that have died though.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 6:07pm

RobitTV wrote: »

Ibec speaking out today is a huge blow to the government and the phased plan.

Ibec is the largest business group and largest lobbying organisation in Ireland. It represents business of all sizes spanning every sector of the economy, together employing 70% of the private sector workforce in Ireland.

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

growleaves · 29-05-2020 6:12pm

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread.

I'm a Fine Gael-Communist-Medical Advisoryist. My type is the ascendancy now. Long may it last!

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 6:14pm

growleaves wrote: »

I'm a Fine Gael-Communist-Medical Advisoryist. My type is the ascendancy now. Long may it last!

Fine Gael Communist :pac:

Fruitcakes.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 6:14pm

TheCitizen wrote: »

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

Ibec must be a 'Gemma/John Waters' supporter. Bet they send staff members to Irish National Party meetings! :eek:

Honestly nobody on this forum wants anything to do with those two people. Why do posters come on here and launch attacks and not debate with those they disagree with?

We want a sensible acceleration of the phased plan, just like Ibec now wants as it happens. They are clearly on the fringes of society :pac:

Blaze420 · 29-05-2020 6:15pm

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 6:16pm

hamburgham wrote: »

Even Richard Boyd Barrett was making sense this morning, he was saying that he’s been trying without success for two months to get minutes of NPHET meetings.
Always a fan of Michael though, won’t hear a word said against him!

That sounds like a fib. They are available publicly up to 22 May now.

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/691330-national-public-health-emergency-team-covid-19-coronavirus/

retro:electro · 29-05-2020 6:17pm

TheCitizen wrote: »

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

Wow I’ve never heard this insult being hurled ever before on this thread.

Bet you thought you were so original typing that.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 6:19pm

You know you have the lost the argument when you start off with the usual Gemma bot and John Waters nonsense. Irish National Party is a new buzzword for the misery merchants to throw around.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 6:20pm

retro:electro wrote: »

Wow I’ve never heard this insult being hurled ever before on this thread.

Bet you thought you were so original typing that.

It's hardly an insult, not to you anyway; that is what you are yes?

prunudo · 29-05-2020 6:20pm

Blaze420 wrote: »

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

But more importantly, where are these cases? If as suspected the majority are in the health care settings then the public are being punished for the their failings.

Jayesdiem · 29-05-2020 6:20pm

Blaze420 wrote: »

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

Could you imagine the country being shut down because 39 people got the flu? Just incredible. On the list of dangerous infectious diseases, this coronavirus is a mere pussycat and is being treated like the Black Death. Each day I think to myself how this warped alternative reality will magically dissolve and I’ll appear back in the real world where the phrase “new normal” doesn’t exist and people don’t run for cover when you walk the dog.

the kelt · 29-05-2020 6:22pm

TheCitizen wrote: »

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

There ye go, there’s some lateral thought for ye.

If you disagree with the approach of the government over something you must be like someone else who disagreed with the government over something.

I mean there couldn’t be any other logical conclusion to come to!

Simple minds simplify as best they can.

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 6:22pm

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Could you imagine the country being shut down because 39 people got the flu? Just incredible. On the list of dangerous infectious diseases, this coronavirus is a mere pussycat and is being treated like the Black Death. Each day I think to myself how this warped alternative reality will magically dissolve and I’ll appear back in the real world where the phrase “new normal” doesn’t exist and people don’t run for cover when you walk the dog.

Brilliant

:D:D

Be careful though, if you start comparing covid to flu you will be called Gemma Waters. In fact if you want barbers to reopen before 20th of July you will also be called Gemma Waters.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings