FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

LawBoy2018 · 30-11-2020 12:32pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

They always accept late applications for the Hybrid. Grateful ? Really ? I don't want to get into a slanging match but.....

My online exam crashed 5 times and it took me 4.5 hours to complete the exam (my final one) and I have been trying to get clarity on whether "technical issues" during the exam will be taken into account and whether Hybrid applicants can except to get their results any sooner than next year.

I have sent numerous emails, no response.

I don't think we need to be "grateful" for being accepted onto the Hybrid, I am sure we have all worked extremely hard to get thus far. I actually don't mind waiting until January, it just would be nice to know instead of wondering will we or wont we get the results over the next few weeks.....

But you would be applying after the deadline has passed? Hence why one should be grateful for the Law Society accepting their late application.

Law20213 · 30-11-2020 12:48pm

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

But you would be applying after the deadline has passed? Hence why one should be grateful for the Law Society accepting their late application.

You do realise that people who sat the august exams were given there results In time to start Blackhall in sept

And now there are people waiting on results to start the hybrid course only want the same equal opportunities as the sept Blackhall intake

LawBoy2018 · 30-11-2020 1:00pm

Law20213 wrote: »

You do realise that people who sat the august exams were given there results In time to start Blackhall in sept

And now there are people waiting on results to start the hybrid course only want the same equal opportunities as the sept Blackhall intake

Yes, because their exams were cancelled in March. I'm no fan of the Law Society but the sense of entitlement off a small portion of posters on this forum is very annoying. Maybe start a hybrid thread elsewhere?

paburke3 · 30-11-2020 1:03pm

Law20213 wrote: »

You do realise that people who sat the august exams were given there results In time to start Blackhall in sept

And now there are people waiting on results to start the hybrid course only want the same equal opportunities as the sept Blackhall intake

It makes zero sense to me why in usual years the exams are in October when intake is in September. All they are doing is delaying people entering into Blackhall by a full 11 months or so. The logical thing would be to have a sitting prior to intake so you can get in without delay. Ridiculous from my, albeit limited, knowledge of the system.

lsheehaneire · 30-11-2020 1:06pm

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Yes, because their exams were cancelled in March. I'm no fan of the Law Society but the sense of entitlement off a small portion of posters on this forum is very annoying. Maybe start a hybrid thread elsewhere?[

Seriously.
Why are you getting personal? I don't really care if I am annoying you. I am entitled to my opinion. It is a "discussion" board after all. I have simply expressed my desire to have clarity in relation to the results.

Law20213 · 30-11-2020 1:08pm

paburke3 wrote: »

It makes zero sense to me why in usual years the exams are in October when intake is in September. All they are doing is delaying people entering into Blackhall by a full 11 months or so. The logical thing would be to have a sitting prior to intake so you can get in without delay. Ridiculous from my, albeit limited, knowledge of the system.

It never made sense to me either but that’s the way it’s always been with these exams

LawBoy2018 · 30-11-2020 1:09pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Yes, because their exams were cancelled in March. I'm no fan of the Law Society but the sense of entitlement off a small portion of posters on this forum is very annoying. Maybe start a hybrid thread elsewhere?[

Seriously.
Why are you getting personal? I don't really care if I am annoying you. I am entitled to my opinion. It is a "discussion" board after all. I have simply expressed my desire to have clarity in relation to the results.

They have already told us that results will be out in January? Why would you think otherwise?

lsheehaneire · 30-11-2020 1:16pm

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

lsheehaneire wrote: »

They have already told us that results will be out in January? Why would you think otherwise?

The Trainee section advised me by email priority would be given.

LawBoy2018 · 30-11-2020 1:17pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

The Trainee section advised me by email priority would be given.

Happy days then? Lol. What's the problem?

lsheehaneire · 30-11-2020 1:21pm

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Happy days then? Lol. What's the problem?

No problem at all....providing it is true

Jenosul · 30-11-2020 3:35pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

They always accept late applications for the Hybrid. Grateful ? Really ? I don't want to get into a slanging match but.....

My online exam crashed 5 times and it took me 4.5 hours to complete the exam (my final one) and I have been trying to get clarity on whether "technical issues" during the exam will be taken into account and whether Hybrid applicants can except to get their results any sooner than next year.

I have sent numerous emails, no response.

I don't think we need to be "grateful" for being accepted onto the Hybrid, I am sure we have all worked extremely hard to get thus far. I actually don't mind waiting until January, it just would be nice to know instead of wondering will we or wont we get the results over the next few weeks.....

I entirely agree. My exam also crashed and the exhaustion (due to it going on so long) as well as the stress definitely influenced my performance. Although I know the LS were helpful in taking my call at the time. I for one don't feel grateful for being informed 3 weeks before the exams they were actually going ahead. I feel a lot of things are being handled badly and yes people are stressed. I do find the responses of if you can't handle this then you will never be tough enough for practising" a bit patronising. I think that idea is dated and is why so many high pressured roles are linked with addiction. There was a lot that could have been done if candidates well being were taken into consideration. I would expect this to be considered as a professional body as mental health is something that is promoted and recognised. From what I gather when the results are out there are weeks until the next sitting which will bring more unnecessary pressure due to cramming.

KCSLAW · 30-11-2020 4:02pm

Hey everyone, does anyone know whether the March sitting is usually at the beginning or the end of the month? Thanks

Meg! · 30-11-2020 4:04pm

My advice re the Hybrid is not to panic just yet.

you are able to submit an application pending results. Those wishing to attend Hybrid results are being prioritized but no date re prioritized results has been provided yet.

The Hybrid course does not officially begin until the 8th and 9th of January. So if you think you have done well in the exams all you can do is be as ready as you can for the hybrid. Get your application in, speak with your Training Solicitor etc.

If we do not get prioritized exams we well miss the first week of lectures and the induction. In a Covid World these will all be online anyway so we wont have much to catch up on and the videos/ recordings will be online.

It's a bitch yes but it will be ok.

Meg! · 30-11-2020 4:04pm

KCSLAW wrote: »

Hey everyone, does anyone know whether the March sitting is usually at the beginning or the end of the month? Thanks

It is usually just before St Patricks day.

FE1new · 30-11-2020 4:17pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

Does anybody with experience know if pre trainee salaries are typically the same as the trainee salary in a firm or lower

They are usually a lower then the trainee salaries in a big firm.

lawDani · 30-11-2020 4:20pm

definitely lower...mine is anyway :L

Hazel774 · 30-11-2020 4:41pm

KCSLAW wrote: »

Hey everyone, does anyone know whether the March sitting is usually at the beginning or the end of the month? Thanks

Usually in the first 2 weeks, hard to know if it will be the same this time though

michaelot97 · 30-11-2020 6:20pm

I reckon we'll have the results before Christmas

Wonderstruck · 30-11-2020 7:09pm

Would there be any interest in a PPC Hybrid Winter 2020 thread, I was gonna make it but I didn't want to retraumatise people and also I wasn't sure if it would stay active when induction isn't due to start for about a fortnight.

30-11-2020 9:06pm

michaelot97 wrote: »

I reckon we'll have the results before Christmas

Just hybrid or everyone?
What makes you think that?

I like your optimism I hope you’re right!

phildub · 30-11-2020 11:31pm

Hi everyone,

I have my interview for the access program coming up, wondering if anyone has been through it and can tell me what kind of questions they ask you?

lsheehaneire · 01-12-2020 9:14am

phildub wrote: »

Hi everyone,

I have my interview for the access program coming up, wondering if anyone has been through it and can tell me what kind of questions they ask you?

That's brilliant news ! PM when you get a chance. I am on the Access course.

IgoPAP · 01-12-2020 11:37am

lsheehaneire wrote: »

That's brilliant news ! PM when you get a chance. I am on the Access course.

I am eligible for the access programme, but my TC is with a firm that will pay all of my fees. Is it still worth applying to?

phildub · 01-12-2020 12:59pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

I am eligible for the access programme, but my TC is with a firm that will pay all of my fees. Is it still worth applying to?

It says that they give some maintenance, although not a lot, can't hurt!

IgoPAP · 01-12-2020 2:23pm

phildub wrote: »

It says that they give some maintenance, although not a lot, can't hurt!

I'd feel bad taking this money away from people that need it more! I'll be fine without it. Good luck to everyone that is interviewing for it.

paburke3 · 01-12-2020 9:08pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

I'd feel bad taking this money away from people that need it more! I'll be fine without it. Good luck to everyone that is interviewing for it.

are you sure you've chosen the right career path? /s

stonewash · 01-12-2020 9:29pm

Hi guys, has anyone been refunded from the August sitting yet?

lawgirl23 · 01-12-2020 9:32pm

stonewash wrote: »

Hi guys, has anyone been refunded from the August sitting yet?

Still waiting. I sent fourth follow up email two weeks ago and was told it is being processed and sorry for the delay. Due to send another follow up soon again. No sign of money yet.

dobby896 · 01-12-2020 9:48pm

michaelot97 wrote: »

I reckon we'll have the results before Christmas

That would be the dream, wish they would just expedite it. It's a joke that we have to wait until mid-January!

I'm finding it hard to even think about the next sitting, let alone motivate myself to open a manual! For me, the last sitting hasn't really "ended" yet as we still await the results, so my mind is still very much on that.

Lovestolisten · 01-12-2020 10:16pm

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dobby896 · 01-12-2020 10:32pm

Lovestolisten wrote: »

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I just can't understand why it's taking them 9 weeks. I wonder is it to view flagged exams etc?

michaelot97 · 02-12-2020 12:14am

Lovestolisten wrote: »

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Even with this I still think we'll have them before Christmas.

02-12-2020 12:44am

michaelot97 wrote: »

Even with this I still think we'll have them before Christmas.

I hope you are a secret LS insider x

Hazel774 · 02-12-2020 1:59am

stonewash wrote: »

Hi guys, has anyone been refunded from the August sitting yet?

Yes I got my refund the end of last week, I requested it as soon as the August results were released and had sent a good few follow up emails but none since the November exams. They’re probably starting to make their way through the list now - also they didn’t email me about it or anything so you’ll have to keep checking your bank account to see if you’ve gotten it yet

Hazel774 · 02-12-2020 2:05am

dobby896 wrote: »

I just can't understand why it's taking them 9 weeks. I wonder is it to view flagged exams etc?

That’s a good point, reviewing them probably is adding to the delay! Plus the fact that it’s much closer to the Christmas period than usual and we can assume they’re still going to give themselves time off over Christmas

Edit: Although it probably wouldn’t be the examiners themselves checking the flagged exams, I’d guess that it would be the staff of the law school who review flagged exams and the examiners correcting the papers as usual - so maybe it shouldn’t delay them since it would be different people checking the flagged exams versus correcting the papers

lawgirl23 · 02-12-2020 8:35am

Hazel774 wrote: »

Yes I got my refund the end of last week, I requested it as soon as the August results were released and had sent a good few follow up emails but none since the November exams. They’re probably starting to make their way through the list now - also they didn’t email me about it or anything so you’ll have to keep checking your bank account to see if you’ve gotten it yet

Just checked my account this morning and it’s come in overnight.

Legalapples · 02-12-2020 10:30am

lawgirl23 wrote: »

Just checked my account this morning and it’s come in overnight.

Can I ask who you emailed ? I’ve yet to receive any response

UPDATE: just got through to them on the phone they’re currently going through a long list of people to refund and said it could take a couple of weeks if anyone else is in a similar position

Wonderstruck · 02-12-2020 11:49am

IgoPAP wrote: »

I'd feel bad taking this money away from people that need it more! I'll be fine without it. Good luck to everyone that is interviewing for it.

No you should apply idk about law but in a lot of sectors they claw back their fees if you leave before you qualify or soon after. Take a look at your contract, if they have that clause you can leave if another opportunity comes up with no clawback heheheh

baloo21 · 02-12-2020 4:24pm

Just got this sent to my email:

Dear FE-1 candidate

I write to you in relation to the PPC Hybrid which is due to commence on 16 December 2020. I understand that you undertook certain papers in the November 2020 sitting of the FE-1s. If it is your intention to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 should you ultimately successfully complete the FE-1s following the current sitting, then you are asked to contact Hilary Kavanagh at H.Kavanagh@LawSociety.ie by Monday 7 December so that we can make preliminary arrangements for you to join the course.

Please note this communication is only relevant for those that intend to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 and who have already identified a suitable (practising) solicitor to act as a training solicitor. General queries with regard to the FE-1 results, which will issue in the week commencing 11 January, should not be directed to Hilary Kavanagh.

Kind regards,

Rory O’Boyle

lsheehaneire · 02-12-2020 4:25pm

baloo21 wrote: »

Just got this sent to my email:

Dear FE-1 candidate

I write to you in relation to the PPC Hybrid which is due to commence on 16 December 2020. I understand that you undertook certain papers in the November 2020 sitting of the FE-1s. If it is your intention to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 should you ultimately successfully complete the FE-1s following the current sitting, then you are asked to contact Hilary Kavanagh at H.Kavanagh@LawSociety.ie by Monday 7 December so that we can make preliminary arrangements for you to join the course.

Please note this communication is only relevant for those that intend to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 and who have already identified a suitable (practising) solicitor to act as a training solicitor. General queries with regard to the FE-1 results, which will issue in the week commencing 11 January, should not be directed to Hilary Kavanagh.

Kind regards,

Rory O’Boyle

Me too !

Law20213 · 02-12-2020 4:40pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Me too !

people who started blackhall in sept got there Aug results a week before PPC started.

The same thing may happen again for the hybrid

Coopie · 02-12-2020 4:42pm

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Me too !

What does “preliminary arrangements” mean?

DUMSURFER · 02-12-2020 5:47pm

Does anyone have a PDF of the EU Manual that I could get a hold of?

Got materials for most subjects that I can swap.

lawgirl23 · 02-12-2020 5:52pm

Legalapples wrote: »

Can I ask who you emailed ? I’ve yet to receive any response

UPDATE: just got through to them on the phone they’re currently going through a long list of people to refund and said it could take a couple of weeks if anyone else is in a similar position

I emailed anybody and everybody to be honest. Any email address I could find. The FE1 email, the dedicated November FE1 one, you name it, I emailed it!!! Probably refunded me so I’d stop emailing!!!

lsheehaneire · 02-12-2020 5:52pm

Coopie wrote: »

What does “preliminary arrangements” mean?

More cloak and dagger .....

Shonagoring123 · 02-12-2020 6:08pm

DUMSURFER wrote: »

Does anyone have a PDF of the EU Manual that I could get a hold of?

Got materials for most subjects that I can swap.

Pm me

02-12-2020 11:58pm

I hope I’m allowed mention this here..
Has anyone used/know anything about Law Hero’s CV/application coaching? It’s €100 so don’t know if it’s worth it but I’m so lost as what else I can do to try get a traineeship.. 7 FE1s in and I’m about to throw in the towel

Hazel774 · 03-12-2020 1:51am

baloo21 wrote: »

Just got this sent to my email:

Dear FE-1 candidate

I write to you in relation to the PPC Hybrid which is due to commence on 16 December 2020. I understand that you undertook certain papers in the November 2020 sitting of the FE-1s. If it is your intention to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 should you ultimately successfully complete the FE-1s following the current sitting, then you are asked to contact Hilary Kavanagh at H.Kavanagh@LawSociety.ie by Monday 7 December so that we can make preliminary arrangements for you to join the course.

Please note this communication is only relevant for those that intend to join the PPC Hybrid in December 2020 and who have already identified a suitable (practising) solicitor to act as a training solicitor. General queries with regard to the FE-1 results, which will issue in the week commencing 11 January, should not be directed to Hilary Kavanagh.

Kind regards,

Rory O’Boyle

Did anyone else sit their last exam(s) in November and not get this email?

lsheehaneire · 03-12-2020 9:17am

Hazel774 wrote: »

Did anyone else sit their last exam(s) in November and not get this email?

Yes

Meg! · 03-12-2020 10:43am

I didn't get the email, got it off a friend and emailed Hillary this morning.

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