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Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Sunny skies in Kildare now. Fog burnt away fairly rapidly

    It didn't burn away,it just ran down to me :D
    Got foggy around noon here in Arklow after the beautiful frosty start
    Temp is only 5.6c currently
    Visibility varies from 150 to 300 metres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Amazing weather in Dublin. No wind at all, so it doesn't feel cold whatsoever to me anyway. Cycling to and from work is a delight. I kind of wish we could stockpile these kind of days for the summer months, and just endure horrible weather in winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Great day in Dublin City Centre. A touch of Spring even in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Dazzling sunshine out here, bouncing off the calm ocean. Small breeze, so it feels cooler than when there was a mass of cloud cover. They took the blankets off !


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Same as yesterday in Dublin 5/9! A foggy start gave way to an overcast day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just looked ahead at the met.ie forecast and looks as if the snow -bunnies here might get to burrow....;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    My god I hate non weather, this is not cold, not mild, not wet, not dry the only thing it is not is sunny.

    Can we have some weather please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It is sheerly lovely! Just been outside and it is so calm and quiet and cool without biting. Fresh but not aggressive,

    A perfect mid winter afternoon for walking or just pottering.

    My favourite weather!
    My god I hate non weather, this is not cold, not mild, not wet, not dry the only thing it is not is sunny.

    Can we have some weather please?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Calm, cool and foggy much of the day here by the coast in Kerry, pockets of dense fog forming again this evening.



    Pic: Banna Beach today looking out towards Kerry Head which is obscured by the fog.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Absolutely shocking fog this morning and most of the day in Laois/Carlow, would prefer driving on snow and ice to these conditions. Next week is looking a little better than what was depicted on Tuesday - it looked like a storm Monday and again Wednesday into Thursday.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Fog and clear patches on Sat Pic showing up well across the country earlier today.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Bit foggy this morning in cork city but not as bad as what we had two weeks ago or so. Had drizzle this morning till about 12ish when it dries up. Stayed cloudy all day though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    The fog is gone,.

    Returned with a vengeance here earlier this evening but seems to be thinning out again now.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Returned with a vengeance here earlier this evening but seems to be thinning out again now.
    Yeah it was quite bad on some sections of the Motorway to Tuam tonight, but it thinned out after arriving in Tuam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Watching the weather after the nine news, this evening. Gerry Murphy said it was dry everywhere today and proceeded to show the radar. Whereas in reality here in Donegal it was damp and rained for most of the day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭alentejo


    As a cyclist, I have enjoyed the recent calm and dry weather. Back to the howling wind and rain next week :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Pangea wrote: »
    Watching the weather after the nine news, this evening. Gerry Murphy said it was dry everywhere today and proceeded to show the radar. Whereas in reality here in Donegal it was damp and rained for most of the day.

    I lived in Donegal many years and well remember that attitude to the county..Now I am offshore with the same phenomenon so it was good training..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Utterly . breathlessly still and silent. A welcome hiatus in wind and rain … Sheer pleasure while the respite lasts... So rare this peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Same again here today, Misty rain yet the weather radar shows all clear. Too fine to show up on the radar I guess but yet very wettening, goes to show you that you cant always rely on technology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Lovely dazzling sunshine out here now! The second day this week no need to light the fire as the sun through the windows is enough.. Yesterday it got far too hot in here.. Bliss! Ocean dazzling and calm, birds in raptures.. Calm enough to wander outside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Lovely dazzling sunshine out here now! The second day this week no need to light the fire as the sun through the windows is enough.. Yesterday it got far too hot in here.. Bliss! Ocean dazzling and calm, birds in raptures.. Calm enough to wander outside.

    Sounds bliss...where are you located? Cloudy here today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Still no thread from the Frog... wonder is he in trouble and can't get somewhere to start a thread.

    Screenshot-20200124-131957-Google.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Beautiful sunny day in Arklow since dawn too
    Should also be the case into south Dublin,down through all of east Wicklow
    Feels like Summer

    Nice colourful vis sat image now on met.ie replacing the black and white one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    No real change in the bigger picture regarding temperatures right over the next two weeks it would seem:

    CPjgGX6.gif

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    No real change in the bigger picture regarding temperatures right over the next two weeks it would seem:

    It's an awfully bland winter. Now I am enjoying wearing a jumper, and t-shirt at times, outdoors this week. No rain, no wind, no frost, and no fog where I am mostly. Very nice to go out and not get soaked or have a brolly blown apart.

    But there's another side of me finds it very boring. We usually have some FI eye candy to look at with regards to cold and snow. Not a hint this year bar a little bit of a heights rise over Scandi yesterday, which looked like sinking and turning into a euro trash high anyway, it's gone today.

    The Sunday-Tuesday westerly will bring snow to the higher ground in the west and north, probably, further south might and might not get something, again limited to higher ground really. Anything at lower level will melt quickly enough.

    I'm usually a weather enthusiast but I'm finding it harder and harder to get any bit excited about wintry weather for 2020 pre March. An SSW is hardly discussed lately.. Maybe it's best to go away from the charts for a week. Even doing that the problem is the models have predicted mild weather in FI all winter, and been right. So when you look at the same setup in FI 10-16 days out on each GFS run, you don't feel it will change radically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    No wind? No rain?

    Naggdefy wrote: »
    It's an awfully bland winter. Now I am enjoying wearing a jumper, and t-shirt at times, outdoors this week. No rain, no wind, no frost, and no fog where I am mostly. Very nice to go out and not get soaked or have a brolly blown apart.

    But there's another side of me finds it very boring. We usually have some FI eye candy to look at with regards to cold and snow. Not a hint this year bar a little bit of a heights rise over Scandi yesterday, which looked like sinking and turning into a euro trash high anyway, it's gone today.

    The Sunday-Tuesday westerly will bring snow to the higher ground in the west and north, probably, further south might and might not get something, again limited to higher ground really. Anything at lower level will melt quickly enough.

    I'm usually a weather enthusiast but I'm finding it harder and harder to get any bit excited about wintry weather for 2020 pre March. An SSW is hardly discussed lately.. Maybe it's best to go away from the charts for a week. Even doing that the problem is the models have predicted mild weather in FI all winter, and been right. So when you look at the same setup in FI 10-16 days out on each GFS run, you don't feel it will change radically.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    It's an awfully bland winter. Now I am enjoying wearing a jumper, and t-shirt at times, outdoors this week. No rain, no wind, no frost, and no fog where I am mostly. Very nice to go out and not get soaked or have a brolly blown apart.

    But there's another side of me finds it very boring. We usually have some FI eye candy to look at with regards to cold and snow. Not a hint this year bar a little bit of a heights rise over Scandi yesterday, which looked like sinking and turning into a euro trash high anyway, it's gone today.

    Unfortunately that sums up this winter entirely. If we ran a roller coaster we would have gone out of business this winter. Last winter was similar but at least there was eye candy to keep our hopes alive.

    As you say this winter there is nothing, not even one consistent FI eye candy run. The models are either pointing at mild westerlies or winds up from the Canaries most of the time. What makes the situation even more alarming is the rest of Europe is joining us with this bland and uneventful winter. Places that should be knee deep in snow and sub zero temperatures have a winter similar to ours this year.

    Long range looks poor too with mild continuing right through February and on into March. The only good thing about the models is they are hinting at a dryer pattern over the next few months, compared to the deluges of late summer, autumn and the start of winter. We're into the final 4 to 5 weeks of Winter, the clock is ticking and no signs of anything properly cold or wintry in the charts. I don't see much changing between now and March, all we can do is hope that luck finds it's way to us, and that one morning we awake to see at least FI getting on board with something seasonal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Graces7 wrote: »
    No wind? No rain?

    No wind, no rain this week for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Nor here, and sheer bliss! lol!
    Naggdefy wrote: »
    No wind, no rain this week for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    It's an awfully bland winter. Now I am enjoying wearing a jumper, and t-shirt at times, outdoors this week. No rain, no wind, no frost, and no fog where I am mostly. Very nice to go out and not get soaked or have a brolly blown apart.

    But there's another side of me finds it very boring. We usually have some FI eye candy to look at with regards to cold and snow. Not a hint this year bar a little bit of a heights rise over Scandi yesterday, which looked like sinking and turning into a euro trash high anyway, it's gone today.

    The Sunday-Tuesday westerly will bring snow to the higher ground in the west and north, probably, further south might and might not get something, again limited to higher ground really. Anything at lower level will melt quickly enough.

    I'm usually a weather enthusiast but I'm finding it harder and harder to get any bit excited about wintry weather for 2020 pre March. An SSW is hardly discussed lately.. Maybe it's best to go away from the charts for a week. Even doing that the problem is the models have predicted mild weather in FI all winter, and been right. So when you look at the same setup in FI 10-16 days out on each GFS run, you don't feel it will change radically.

    Could it be argued that the NWP models getting better are the main cause of that? 95% of the time when the models show cold weather it doesn't come to fruition so maybe they're finally learning..?


    As for the weather here, dark and damp with persistent drizzle for the past couple of days, all very boring


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Some wind sounds drifting in from the darkness now. Gentle enough...the last few days have been just that; gentle and quiet. Sad to hear it ending. but it has rested us greatly. A breathing space. A respite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    would u think there is growth already yet? beginng to think i might start with fertiliser


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    The hawthorns are already showing the emergence of leaves in parts of East Clare
    Still hibernating in North Clare


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Unfortunately that sums up this winter entirely. If we ran a roller coaster we would have gone out of business this winter. Last winter was similar but at least there was eye candy to keep our hopes alive.

    As you say this winter there is nothing, not even one consistent FI eye candy run. The models are either pointing at mild westerlies or winds up from the Canaries most of the time. What makes the situation even more alarming is the rest of Europe is joining us with this bland and uneventful winter. Places that should be knee deep in snow and sub zero temperatures have a winter similar to ours this year.

    Long range looks poor too with mild continuing right through February and on into March. The only good thing about the models is they are hinting at a dryer pattern over the next few months, compared to the deluges of late summer, autumn and the start of winter. We're into the final 4 to 5 weeks of Winter, the clock is ticking and no signs of anything properly cold or wintry in the charts. I don't see much changing between now and March, all we can do is hope that luck finds it's way to us, and that one morning we awake to see at least FI getting on board with something seasonal.

    I would think it`s much more likely that the very high late Feb 2019 temperatures that many parts of the country experienced will come under threat of being exceeded in Feb 2020 rather than any cold conditions then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    I would think it`s much more likely that the very high late Feb 2019 temperatures that many parts of the country experienced will come under threat of being exceeded in Feb 2020 rather than any cold conditions then.

    Show your workings?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I would think it`s much more likely that the very high late Feb 2019 temperatures that many parts of the country experienced will come under threat of being exceeded in Feb 2020 rather than any cold conditions then.

    There is a chance of very mild temperatures in the first week of February with a fetch of winds up from the Azores/Canarys which could bring 14 or 15C if conditions were right. It would take something special to beat the temperatures we had last February. I still remember sitting outside in a t-shirt with gin blue skies end of February, as if it was July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Still have marigolds in flower here....
    nthclare wrote: »
    The hawthorns are already showing the emergence of leaves in parts of East Clare
    Still hibernating in North Clare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    The wind woke in the night, flexed his brawny arms and started exercising his fearsome lungs..

    He has brought a bitter cold with him. Far cry from yesterday's benign hours.

    Today's task is getting and keeping warm .

    But we had a respite …


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    I see your man from the Irish weather channel issuing his own weather warnings again for snow Monday and Tuesday in kildare and Laois . He makes himself or at least the local papers do to sound official. I don’t know how many times this lad has got things wrong and people still believe every word out of his mouth.
    My own elderly mother has hospital appointments early next week and now because she has seen it in the local paper she thinks it’s an official warning.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    harr wrote: »
    I see your man from the Irish weather channel issuing his own weather warnings again for snow Monday and Tuesday in kildare and Laois . He makes himself or at least the local papers do to sound official. I don’t know how many times this lad has got things wrong and people still believe every word out of his mouth.
    My own elderly mother has hospital appointments early next week and now because she has seen it in the local paper she thinks it’s an official warning.

    Heard him on Midlands radio during the week. Embarrassing. Introduced by his climatology and meteorological study credentials. Gave a run down on the models he uses for prediction. Basically what we all have access to. Totally egged on by a presenter who was very ignorant on the subject. When your man gave his spiel about models and personal input the presenter goes 'Wow! What a comprehensive answer! Amazing!'.

    Nothing about a recent 7in snow prediction last winter, when 0 inches came. Or his red warnings for Brendan etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Heard him on Midlands radio during the week. Embarrassing. Introduced by his climatology and meteorological study credentials. Gave a run down on the models he uses for prediction. Basically what we all have access to. Totally egged on by a presenter who was very ignorant on the subject. When your man gave his spiel about models and personal input the presenter goes 'Wow! What a comprehensive answer! Amazing!'.

    Nothing about a recent 7in snow prediction last winter, when 0 inches came. Or his red warnings for Brendan etc.
    People like sheep on Facebook following his every word. He definitely shouldn’t be allowed or be given air time to give his own warnings. It only confuses the likes of my mother who thinks he is doing an official forecast.
    I have seen his wild predictions before ... of course he will get something right eventually but no different than any joe soap predicting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    harr wrote: »
    People like sheep on Facebook following his every word. He definitely shouldn’t be allowed or be given air time to give his own warnings. It only confuses the likes of my mother who thinks he is doing an official forecast.
    I have seen his wild predictions before ... of course he will get something right eventually but no different than any joe soap predicting it.

    Every country has its James Madden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Wind chill factor is.... amazing. Just been out for turf and it takes the breath away. Shivery morning. Straight off the ocean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    harr wrote: »
    People like sheep on Facebook following his every word. He definitely shouldn’t be allowed or be given air time to give his own warnings. It only confuses the likes of my mother who thinks he is doing an official forecast.
    I have seen his wild predictions before ... of course he will get something right eventually but no different than any joe soap predicting it.

    Agreed. When you read the comments section. 'Cathal you're so much better than Met Eireann'. If the same people actually listened to Met Eireann and gave them the same time as this fella.

    Or do Met Eireann have to set up a FB page now and interact with their 'fans' online. Is this how people want to find out about weather forecasts..

    The sheer arrogance of this fella. When Evelyn was criticising the TV3 fella who went on a red warning solo re. Storm Brendan. Cathal Nolan turned it into the Cathal Nolan show. It was all about him representing the local forecaster versus big bad outdated Met Eireann, who wanted to stifle all the little people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    I have been following the weather here since nov 2010. I've learned so much since then and am delighted to see there are others who are as fascinated by the weather as me. I have been following that Midlands weather channel on facebook for a while and do wonder why nobody calls him out in the comments section. So maybe I will start. He makes wild claims that are not accurate but people seem to lap it up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    harr wrote: »
    I see your man from the Irish weather channel issuing his own weather warnings again for snow Monday and Tuesday in kildare and Laois . He makes himself or at least the local papers do to sound official. I don’t know how many times this lad has got things wrong and people still believe every word out of his mouth.
    My own elderly mother has hospital appointments early next week and now because she has seen it in the local paper she thinks it’s an official warning.

    His latest warning in orange(of course) includes wexford for dangerous driving conditions...
    I'd be surprised if I see a flake in Arklow, nevermind wexford


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    I see he has a job vacancy advertised on his page. Obviously his only interest is in turning commercial, hence all the "Please Share!" pleas at the start of his posts. Once money becomes involved then credibility of the posts is reduced as clicks become the main target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Slightly off topic but today is the 30th anniversary of the Burns Day storm of January 1990.

    Cork Airport and Roches Point had max gusts up to 83 (154 km/h) and 86 (159 km/h) kts respectively.

    Data from Met Éireann.

    NOAA_1_1990012506_1.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Slightly off topic but today is the 30th anniversary of the Burns Day storm of January 1990.

    It is slightly off topic. But it is under general discussion.
    I'll let it slide this time.
    Last chance sryanbruen. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Another remarkably bland day of weather, it's like someone switched the weather to off over the last few days.


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