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Extinction Rebellion Ireland

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  • #2702
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    20Cent wrote: »
    Blended sources from a few different renewable energies, wind, sun etc not just one.

    ... are still utterly unreliable and don't work when you need stable power 24/7.


  • #2703
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Not following the whole thread. But two things are clear and people will fight tooth and nail denying it.

    1) if we continue as we are we’re fvcked

    2) and not continueing doesnt mean buying a 300 bhp Hybrid and gettin a snazzy mug for my latte instead of throwaway cup. The change required means forget about the current economic system and our attitude to pretty much everything

    Since 2 is never going to happen until it’s all too late revert to 1

    We are actually on a doomsday spiral it just doesn’t feel like it yet because we still have lattes. But make no mistake, Agent Smith is right.
    Or it’ll be Grand . Perhaps some technology will fix t . Since the Industrial revolution Technology is King so almost certainly Technology will fix this .

    That’ll be too good for the ones that want to go around saying we are all doomed and going hysterical like Witch Finder Generals .

    Hold on , whats that in the Sky ....its a great big asteroid....aargh wer'e fooked .

    At least the climate change didn’t get us .:P


  • #2704
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Not going hysterical. All the same to me really I’ll only be around for another I don’t know maybe 40 years if lucky. Might still have lattes then. Don’t have kids either.

    Shame though. You’d think we would have been smarter than that. It’s not like they aren’t clear signs to see for anyone who doesn’t close their eyes


  • #2705
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    cnocbui wrote: »
    ... are still utterly unreliable and don't work when you need stable power 24/7.

    Batteries can store power.


  • #2706
    lalababa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Guys , there's absolutely no point in arguing with climate change deniers, or people who think 'losing' 200 jobs in bord na Mona is a travesty of epic proportions. Tis a waste of time.
    Save your oxygen and do something productive like . ....making jam and preserves.....mmmmm.


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  • #2707
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    20Cent wrote: »
    Batteries can store power.

    We get batteries how?


  • #2708
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    20Cent wrote: »
    Batteries can store power.

    Lithium?


  • #2709
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Not going hysterical. All the same to me really I’ll only be around for another I don’t know maybe 40 years if lucky. Might still have lattes then. Don’t have kids either.

    Shame though. You’d think we would have been smarter than that. It’s not like they aren’t clear signs to see for anyone who doesn’t close their eyes
    It’ll be grand . The Aliens will probably eat us all as a delicacy way before you are gone .


  • #2710
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    lalababa wrote: »
    Guys , there's absolutely no point in arguing with climate change deniers, or people who think 'losing' 200 jobs in bord na Mona is a travesty of epic proportions. Tis a waste of time.
    Save your oxygen and do something productive like . ....making jam and preserves.....mmmmm.

    True.
    Good advice.


  • #2711
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    We can't even build a bus lane without half the country going nuts and people are talking about nuclear. Get real.


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  • #2712
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Well she's right, the current system only leads to destruction of the planet. I look forward to her articles.

    So she says. What exactly is the system that you, Saoirse, and the the rest who never grew beyond the hazy days of navel gazing in college with Che T-shirts on are proposing? Can you give a brief overview?


  • #2713
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    So she says. What exactly is the system that you, Saoirse, and the the rest who never grew beyond the hazy days of navel gazing in college with Che T-shirts on are proposing? Can you give a brief overview?

    I dont know, some kind of better distribution of wealth maybe. The current model is self destructive anyone xan see that. Do you have an alternative system in mind given the current one is killing the planet?


  • #2714
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    blinding wrote: »
    It’ll be grand . The Aliens will probably eat us all as a delicacy way before you are gone .

    So you come you here ridiculing meaning you're obviously spending some thought on this. And this is all you can come up with then?

    You really don't think there is anything to worry about and people like me are nutters?

    Losing 50% of all wild life since 1970 is nothing to worry about? Insects being reduced by 70% in the last ten is nothing to worry about? It's all going splendidly nothing to worry about?

    See the thing is in my opinion if we wait long enough for the writing to be on the wall (and I think it already is) its most likely going to be too late. A lot of these things will not be reversible. So when do you start taking the warning signs seriously? According to you obviously not any time soon.


  • #2715
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Not following the whole thread. But two things are clear and people will fight tooth and nail denying it.

    1) if we continue as we are we’re fvcked

    2) and not continueing doesnt mean buying a 300 bhp Hybrid and gettin a snazzy mug for my latte instead of throwaway cup. The change required means forget about the current economic system and our attitude to pretty much everything

    Since 2 is never going to happen until it’s all too late revert to 1

    We are actually on a doomsday spiral it just doesn’t feel like it yet because we still have lattes. But make no mistake, Agent Smith is right.

    Doomsday spiral hahahahaha. Ok Dr Evil.


  • #2716
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    So you come you here ridiculing meaning you're obviously spending some thought on this. And this is all you can come up with then?

    You really don't think there is anything to worry about and people like me are nutters?

    Losing 50% of all wild life since 1970 is nothing to worry about? Insects being reduced by 70% in the last ten is nothing to worry about? It's all going splendidly nothing to worry about?

    See the thing is in my opinion if we wait long enough for the writing to be on the wall (and I think it already is) its most likely going to be too late. A lot of these things will not be reversible. So when do you start taking the warning signs seriously? According to you obviously not any time soon.

    Hi Greta.


  • #2717
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    So you come you here ridiculing meaning you're obviously spending some thought on this. And this is all you can come up with then?

    You really don't think there is anything to worry about and people like me are nutters?

    Losing 50% of all wild life since 1970 is nothing to worry about? Insects being reduced by 70% in the last ten is nothing to worry about? It's all going splendidly nothing to worry about?

    See the thing is in my opinion if we wait long enough for the writing to be on the wall (and I think it already is) its most likely going to be too late. A lot of these things will not be reversible. So when do you start taking the warning signs seriously? According to you obviously not any time soon.

    Your post is being hammered by facts and logic.


  • #2718
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    So you come you here ridiculing meaning you're obviously spending some thought on this. And this is all you can come up with then?

    You really don't think there is anything to worry about and people like me are nutters?

    Losing 50% of all wild life since 1970 is nothing to worry about? Insects being reduced by 70% in the last ten is nothing to worry about? It's all going splendidly nothing to worry about?

    See the thing is in my opinion if we wait long enough for the writing to be on the wall (and I think it already is) its most likely going to be too late. A lot of these things will not be reversible. So when do you start taking the warning signs seriously? According to you obviously not any time soon.
    Getting Celebrities / Politicians / Others supposedly on your side that are only doing it for the Photo-Shoots are ridiculing Extinction Rebellion etc .

    Can ye not see that these people are just pulling ye’re chain .

    Also if ye can not stand up to ridicule maybe ye are not that strong .

    There is a lot of ridiculous-ness of this Extinction Rebellion Shenanigans .

    Be grateful that people can be bothered to ridicule it as they are doing a great job of ridiculing it themselves .

    Sometimes it is so bad that you wonder if some of them are doing it on purpose .


  • #2719
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,124 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    I dont know, some kind of better distribution of wealth maybe. The current model is self destructive anyone xan see that. Do you have an alternative system in mind given the current one is killing the planet?

    I'm no fan of the current system, it's killing the planet and our societies.

    The majority of the world will see the greatest reduction in relative poverty and hunger on record, the greatest growth in wealth for most people ever seen.

    Outside of Europe and pockets of North America, our dislike of the current system is very small minority view.

    Not exactly dominant in Europe either but..


  • #2720
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    20Cent wrote: »
    Batteries can store power.

    Of course they can. Unfortunately no one has the money to pay for them. The battery installations you read about, like the one in South Australia they installed because the instability of your precious renewables blew up the grid for a day, are only sufficient for load smoothing on a very short time scale on the order of a few minutes.

    There are no battery installations that can store hours or days of power from when renewables are generating and then support the whole grid on for hours to weeks when they aren't.

    Assuming of course you aren't blessed with practical geothermal or hydro, you have to have either fossil fuel or nuclear base capacity. For some reason you seem to prefer fossil fuel,


  • #2721
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    I dont know, some kind of better distribution of wealth maybe. The current model is self destructive anyone xan see that. Do you have an alternative system in mind given the current one is killing the planet?

    It wouldn't be one as vague as that anyway.I'd be interested to see a detailed proposal outilining whose wealth is to be to be redistributed and to who. I think your idea of that is developed countries giving much more in the way of taxpayer funded handouts to developing countries while dropping living standards at home to about 1950s levels. Obscenely wealthy individuals and corporations would go untouched of course. A collectivist neo-feudal society seems to be what you're getting at. Correct me if I am wrong.


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  • #2722
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/president-attacks-free-market-fundamentalism-for-creating-yawning-inequality-1.4080490?mode=amp

    Glad to see him going against the political grain. And yes he has a nice house and a private jet but hes the President and our national ambassador.
    This is also the man most people voted for and he has these opinions so maybe there is hope after all...


  • #2723
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    So you come you here ridiculing meaning you're obviously spending some thought on this. And this is all you can come up with then?

    You really don't think there is anything to worry about and people like me are nutters?

    Losing 50% of all wild life since 1970 is nothing to worry about? Insects being reduced by 70% in the last ten is nothing to worry about? It's all going splendidly nothing to worry about?

    See the thing is in my opinion if we wait long enough for the writing to be on the wall (and I think it already is) its most likely going to be too late. A lot of these things will not be reversible. So when do you start taking the warning signs seriously? According to you obviously not any time soon.

    If man disappeared wildlife would flourish. There was an interesting show on it a while ago. Cities would become diverse ecosystems, forests would regrow and spread. And man made carbon would cease.

    Although the world would continue to heat up until it reached a certain point then go into a cooling down period. ‘Twas ever so.


  • #2724
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    blinding wrote: »
    Getting Celebrities / Politicians / Others supposedly on your side that are only doing it for the Photo-Shoots are ridiculing Extinction Rebellion etc .

    Can ye not see that these people are just pulling ye’re chain .

    Also if ye can not stand up to ridicule maybe ye are not that strong .

    There is a lot of ridiculous-ness of this Extinction Rebellion Shenanigans .

    Be grateful that people can be bothered to ridicule it as they are doing a great job of ridiculing it themselves .

    Sometimes it is so bad that you wonder if some of them are doing it on purpose .

    Excuse me but I think like this for decades now. You don't need Greta or 'celebrities' to follow. All you need is an ability to put two and two together.

    This is not a fad. This is not something you can be for or against. This is not Liverpool v ManU or wearing Nikes over adidas or some other silly internet debate. This is real and serious. With or without celebrities.


  • #2725
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭SeanW


    20Cent wrote: »
    Batteries can store power.
    Bahahahh hah ha ha ha ... calls nuclear "too expensive" then talks about batteries. :D :rolleyes: :D that's a good one :rolleyes:

    Oh wait, you were actually serious?

    I also note that you did not respond to any of my points calling the utility and environmental friendliness of renewables into question - not difficult to imagine why.

    For reference, Sizewell B was built in the United Kingdom over the course of 7 years between 1987 and 1995. It cost around £2bn and produces 1.2GW of CO2 free electricity on a constant basis. Its lifespan has been extended to 2055. All of which proves that when nuclear power is done by competent people, using proven reactor designs under a sensible regulatory regime, yes it's expensive but you get a lot of reliable, clean (in CO2 and air pollution terms at least) energy for your money.

    Granted, £2bn is a lot of money, especially in 1990s money, but try doing the same thing today with renewables and batteries as you can with Sizewell B. Remember:
    • You have to do this with just wind mills solar panels and batteries.
    • You cannot use any fossil fuels, because you need to match a target of 12g/CO2 per kilowatt hour, which is what nuclear power does according to the IPCC.
    • You have to provide power at all times of the day and night, including accounting for extreme weather events such as the extreme anti-cyclone of Christmas 2010, when there was no wind and very low temperatures for a prolonged period of time.
    • You should not use more land than is being used by Sizewell B.
    • Compare the amount of new power grid construction for your 1.2GW constant renewables to that required for Sizewell B.
    • Compare the visual impact of carpet bombing every hilltop in a very large radius to that of a single building in one location.
    • You can kill no more bats than are killed at Sizewell B (i.e. few if any)
    • You can kill no more large soaring birds with your ridiculous windmills than Sizewell B, again, likely few or none. If your strategy includes non-photovaltaic solar power (e.g. the mirror and tower arrangement) you cannot allow any birds that fly between the mirrors and the tower to be cooked alive.
    • Compare the waste disposal costs of all the life-expired windmill parts, solar panel e-waste and worn out batteries to the cost of decommissioning Sizwell B in 2055.
    • How much is the cost to the end user of electricity in this scenario compared to Sizewell B?


  • #2726
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SeanW wrote: »
    Bahahahh hah ha ha ha ... calls nuclear "too expensive" then talks about batteries. :D :rolleyes: :D that's a good one :rolleyes:

    Oh wait, you were actually serious?

    I also note that you did not respond to any of my points calling the utility and environmental friendliness of renewables into question - not difficult to imagine why.

    For reference, Sizewell B was built in the United Kingdom over the course of 7 years between 1987 and 1995. It cost around £2bn and produces 1.2GW of CO2 free electricity on a constant basis. Its lifespan has been extended to 2055. All of which proves that when nuclear power is done by competent people, using proven reactor designs under a sensible regulatory regime, yes it's expensive but you get a lot of reliable, clean (in CO2 and air pollution terms at least) energy for your money.

    Granted, £2bn is a lot of money, especially in 1990s money, but try doing the same thing today with renewables and batteries as you can with Sizewell B. Remember:
    • You have to do this with just wind mills solar panels and batteries.
    • You cannot use any fossil fuels, because you need to match a target of 12g/CO2 per kilowatt hour, which is what nuclear power does according to the IPCC.
    • You have to provide power at all times of the day and night, including accounting for extreme weather events such as the extreme anti-cyclone of Christmas 2010, when there was no wind and very low temperatures for a prolonged period of time.
    • You should not use more land than is being used by Sizewell B.
    • Compare the amount of new power grid construction for your 1.2GW constant renewables to that required for Sizewell B.
    • Compare the visual impact of carpet bombing every hilltop in a very large radius to that of a single building in one location.
    • You can kill no more bats than are killed at Sizewell B (i.e. few if any)
    • You can kill no more large soaring birds with your ridiculous windmills than Sizewell B, again, likely few or none. If your strategy includes non-photovaltaic solar power (e.g. the mirror and tower arrangement) you cannot allow any birds that fly between the mirrors and the tower to be cooked alive.
    • Compare the waste disposal costs of all the life-expired windmill parts, solar panel e-waste and worn out batteries to the cost of decommissioning Sizwell B in 2055.
    • How much is the cost to the end user of electricity in this scenario compared to Sizewell B?

    Tldr.


    Bit rich when a climate change deniers mock people who are rational and scientific.


  • #2727
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    How is it you can be rational and scientific without the attention span required to read two paragraphs?

    You can't and you aren't.


  • #2728
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭SeanW


    20Cent wrote: »
    Tldr.
    Since you were going around calling people "deniers" and thus tarring people with the same brush as Holocaust deniers, I assumed you had an attention span greater than a gnat. My apologies.

    But I suspect it's more that you could not find the ingredients for a straw-man rebuttal, because that seems like all you can do.
    Bit rich when a climate change deniers mock people who are rational and scientific.
    Not sure who you are calling a "denier" here. Me? I've already stated that as far as I'm concerned, 2 things can be true at the same time:
    1. That anthropogenic climate change could be a real problem.
    2. That various individuals and entities could be using it as a pretext for another agenda.
    Like Rahm Emmanuel, a Democrat party apparatchik in the US once said "never let a good crisis go to waste." Not sure how skepticism of this kind would make anyone a "denier", but go ahead keep calling names and dodging questions, that seems to be your M.O. Also you should be clear about whether you are referring to one "denier" or multiple. "a climate change deniers" either it should be "a climate change denier" or "climate change deniers". That's very unclear.

    Who specifically are you calling a denier/deniers?


  • #2729
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/13/insect-apocalypse-poses-risk-to-all-life-on-earth-conservationists-warn

    Insect apocalypse poses risk to all life on earth. More hippy lies and india and China.


  • #2730
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/13/insect-apocalypse-poses-risk-to-all-life-on-earth-conservationists-warn

    Insect apocalypse poses risk to all life on earth. More hippy lies and india and China.

    What has that got to do with climate or extinction rebellion? Loss of biodiversity die to overuse of pesticides is not a climate emergency.

    If you could put a coherent argument together for the drastic changes demanded by ER that would be great


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  • #2731
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    What has that got to do with climate or extinction rebellion? Loss of biodiversity die to overuse of pesticides is not a climate emergency.

    If you could put a coherent argument together for the drastic changes demanded by ER that would be great

    Their mission statement
    Extinction Rebellion is a global environmental movement with the stated aim of using nonviolent civil disobedience to compel government action to avoid tipping points in the climate system, biodiversity loss, and the risk of social and ecological collapse

    So yeah, that's in their remit.
    Oh and it looks like India and China are polluting the sh*t (literally) out of our waterways too, but that's all a green conspiracy too.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/waste-water-treatment-problems-ireland-4888536-Nov2019/

    We need to clean up our own back yard, it's a disgrace.


  • #2732
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Their mission statement



    So yeah, that's in their remit.
    Oh and it looks like India and China are polluting the sh*t (literally) out of our waterways too, but that's all a green conspiracy too.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/waste-water-treatment-problems-ireland-4888536-Nov2019/

    We need to clean up our own back yard, it's a disgrace.

    Your referencing of India and China now is actually juvenile. I suggest if you want anyone to take you serious you need to cop on.


  • #2733
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Their mission statement



    So yeah, that's in their remit.
    Oh and it looks like India and China are polluting the sh*t (literally) out of our waterways too, but that's all a green conspiracy too.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/waste-water-treatment-problems-ireland-4888536-Nov2019/

    We need to clean up our own back yard, it's a disgrace.

    That's from Wikipedia and references 3 statements that are all about climate, not biodiversity loss due to climate.

    Yes we should clean up our own backyard and biodiversity loss is important, but ER don't seem to have any real proposals, ignore reality and appear to be full of hypocrites.


  • #2734
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Your referencing of India and China now is actually juvenile. I suggest if you want anyone to take you serious you need to cop on.

    It's hard not to bring it up when every argument from people who think everything is rosy in Ireland mention India and bleedin' China.


  • #2735
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    It's hard not to bring it up when every argument from people who think everything is rosy in Ireland mention India and bleedin' China.

    Haven't seen those two countries mentioned by anyone other than yourself in the last several comments and to my mind you do so as sneering contempt that adds nothing to anything you say. It actually makes it easier to dismiss you as a crank. However fire ahead if you wish.


  • #2736
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Human apocalypse may be for the best all round .


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  • #2737
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    blinding wrote: »
    Human apocalypse may be for the best all round .

    It will be and has someone posted earlier nature will strive once humans are gone


  • #2738
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Haven't seen those two countries mentioned by anyone other than yourself in the last several comments and to my mind you do so as sneering contempt that adds nothing to anything you say. It actually makes it easier to dismiss you as a crank. However fire ahead if you wish.

    Ahem


  • #2739
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Oh this just so appropriate to those who think Global Warming is a science fact:
    "In the sciences, the authority of thousands of opinions is not worth as much as one tiny spark of reason in an individual man."

    - Galileo Galilei

    And who was drawing attention to this?

    Richard Feynman.
    ‏


  • #2740
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ...that man? Albert Einstein


  • #2741
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    You gotta love this climate change scam. The Dutch authorities have reduced speed limits from 130km to 100km/hr, apparently to save the world. That should see a nice rise in the coffers of speeding fines. Who are they kidding?

    It’s total bo***x. I did a run to Southampton recently. The majority of my run was on UK motorways and i constantly cruised at speeds of 130/140kmhr. Guess what? I got the best mpg i have ever seen on my car, 58mpg ...


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  • #2742
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    You gotta love this climate change scam. The Dutch authorities have reduced speed limits from 130km to 100km/hr, apparently to save the world. That should see a nice rise in the coffers of speeding fines. Who are they kidding?

    It’s total bo***x. I did a run to Southampton recently. The majority of my run was on UK motorways and i constantly cruised at speeds of 130/140kmhr. Guess what? I got the best mpg i have ever seen on my car, 58mpg ...
    Sure thats no good at all from a TAX TAX TAX post of view;);)


  • #2743
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Extinction rebellion block private jet terminal in Geneva.
    There goes they only want to hit the poor argument.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/16/extinction-rebellion-members-blockade-private-jet-terminal-used-wealthy-elites?amp


  • #2744
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    20Cent wrote: »
    Extinction rebellion block private jet terminal in Geneva.
    There goes they only want to hit the poor argument.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/16/extinction-rebellion-members-blockade-private-jet-terminal-used-wealthy-elites?amp

    The morons are playing with fire if they start that craic. I wonder if they blocked the driveway of their parents, friends , neighbours SUV’s?


  • #2745
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    20Cent wrote: »
    Extinction rebellion block private jet terminal in Geneva.
    There goes they only want to hit the poor argument.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/16/extinction-rebellion-members-blockade-private-jet-terminal-used-wealthy-elites?amp
    Well Done . About time .


  • #2746
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    The morons are playing with fire if they start that craic. I wonder if they blocked the driveway of their parents, friends , neighbours SUV’s?
    It will be interesting to see if their Media Coverage suddenly dries up :eek:


  • #2747
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    20Cent wrote: »
    Extinction rebellion block private jet terminal in Geneva.
    There goes they only want to hit the poor argument.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/16/extinction-rebellion-members-blockade-private-jet-terminal-used-wealthy-elites?amp

    They'll just have to bypass them via helicopter. I know I would.


  • #2748
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    blinding wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see if their Media Coverage suddenly dries up :eek:

    It won’t be long now until the true colours show when they don’t get their way, violence and riots will begin soon.


  • #2749
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    20Cent wrote: »
    Extinction rebellion block private jet terminal in Geneva.
    There goes they only want to hit the poor argument.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/16/extinction-rebellion-members-blockade-private-jet-terminal-used-wealthy-elites?amp

    How many planes actually fly out of there a day? It must be minuscule in comparison to the 17m who use Geneva annually.


  • #2750
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There were an estimated 1,700 private jet flights involved with the Davos Climate Change conference in Jan. For Just 2,500 people!

    Private-jets-Davos-Climate.jpg

    No doubt they would have recommended teleconferencing as a way to cut down on business travel.

    You couldn't make this stuff up. Hope they blockade the next Climate Change conference.


  • #2751
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    cnocbui wrote: »
    There were an estimated 1,700 private jet flights involved with the Davos Climate Change conference in Jan. For Just 2,500 people!

    Image%2B-%2Bprivjet.png

    No doubt they would have recommended teleconferencing as a way to cut down on business travel.

    You couldn't make this stuff up. Hope they blockade the next Climate Change conference.
    Somebody is having their Chain Pulled !


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