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Extinction Rebellion Ireland

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    #2672
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7672069/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-72-drives-new-100K-Pinzgauer-military-vehicle-California.html

    Arnie Drives a Huge Vehicle through his Green Greta Credentials .


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    #2673
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,714 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Your view of nuclear is stuck in the 1950s like your uncle Joe. Thorium salt reactors for example are light years ahead of wind farms that have twenty year lifespans and need thousands of tons of concrete and thousands of acres dug up to accommodate them. The Greens and other communists masquerading as enviromentalists want energy poverty, not security. That's the only way they can have their socialist control grid, by inpoverishing most people. Check out Saoirse McHughs piece in the journal today, Marx would be proud.

    He'd be in for a shock if he compared deaths in the Wind Farm industry vs the Nuclear. Hmmmm - discounting something that's potentially dangerous while championing something that unequivocally is.


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    #2674
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Ok, then you will be able to tell me which weather models fully account for water vapour - by a huge amount, the most potent greenhouse gas - in their computations?

    I'd also like to know the accepted mechanism by which atmospheric CO2, causes warming of the planet prior to the increase of said CO2 in the atmosphere - as is shown happens by ice core data?

    no

    ask a scientist that actually knows about this stuff, because im not one


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    #2675
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    no

    ask a scientist that actually knows about this stuff, because im not one

    Did you not study under some of the top academic's, where you not listening?


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    #2676
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Did you not study under some of the top academic's, where you not listening?

    of course i was, but like most people who passed through academia, i have forgotten the detail, i also dont need to remember it, again, my conclusions are, we really are fcuking up the planet, this was why i actually studied this field, i.e. to confirm my fears


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    #2677
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    of course i was, but like most people who passed through academia, i have forgotten the detail, i also dont need to remember it, again, my conclusions are, we really are fcuking up the planet, this was why i actually studied this field, i.e. to confirm my fears

    You also claimed to have carried on your own research outside of academia, yet you can't or won't answer the questions. Seems like the time you spent studying was wasted if all you can say
    is 'we really are ****ing up the planet' not really insightful stuff tbh.


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    #2678
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Plumbthedepths wrote:
    You also claimed to have carried on your own research outside of academia, yet you can't or won't answer the questions. Seems like the time you spent studying was wasted if all you can say is 'we really are ****ing up the planet' not really insightful stuff tbh.


    I disagree, I can safely say, most of my time in academia was very enjoyable and extremely insightful, in many ways, in particular on a personal level. Again, I can't answer the questions because again, I don’t know the answers, a person who is informed in such matters, such as a climate scientist is required for such things, and once again, I'm not a scientist.


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    #2679
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I disagree, I can safely say, most of my time in academia was very enjoyable and extremely insightful, in many ways, in particular on a personal level. Again, I can't answer the questions because again, I don’t know the answers, a person who is informed in such matters, such as a climate scientist is required for such things, and once again, I'm not a scientist.

    Far easier if you just said you haven't a clue, I just find it amusing after your claims of studying under top academic's and ongoing research. Anyway I'll leave it at that.


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    #2680
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    no

    ask a scientist that actually knows about this stuff, because im not one
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Far easier if you just said you haven't a clue, I just find it amusing after your claims of studying under top academic's and ongoing research. Anyway I'll leave it at that.

    thought it was clear in this post, no?


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    #2681
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    thought it was clear in this post, no?

    Well if you can't answer questions relating to climate and carbon seems all your studying and research was a waste of time. Can only a recognised scientist process knowledge about the climate and it's mechanisms?
    Edited before I saw your reply.


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    #2682
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Well if you can't answer questions relating to climate and carbon seems all your studying and research was a waste of time. Can only a recognised scientist process knowledge about the climate and it's mechanisms?
    Edited before I saw your reply.

    again, i strongly disagree, again, i dont need to know the detail, again, im not a scientist, and probably never will be.

    of course not, all humans can inform themselves as best as they can, in fact id recommend it, particularly those that do not believe in serious environmental issues such as this


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    #2683
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    blinding wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7672069/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-72-drives-new-100K-Pinzgauer-military-vehicle-California.html

    Arnie Drives a Huge Vehicle through his Green Greta Credentials .

    It's like the whole thing is a f*cking parody at this stage, I saw a photo of Brian Cox recently too after his last Reykjavik show - offroading in a massive big **** off SUV with huge wheels.

    These people just want us peasants to live in poverty while they still live luxurious lives of opulence with massive massive carbon footprints.


    F*ck off you phoney lying c*unts!!


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    #2684
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    It's like the whole thing is a f*cking parody at this stage, I saw a photo of Brian Cox recently too after his last Reykjavik show - offroading in a massive big **** off SUV with huge wheels.

    These people just want us peasants to live in poverty while they still live luxurious lives of opulence with massive massive carbon footprints.


    F*ck off you phoney lying c*unts!!
    Elite-ests ordering the Plebs that the elite-ests know best while carrying on as before themselves .

    Some things don’t change .


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    #2685
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,749 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Check out Saoirse McHughs piece in the journal today, Marx would be proud.

    Well she's right, the current system only leads to destruction of the planet. I look forward to her articles.


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    #2686
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Paragraph after paragraph of moaning by McHugh but no suggestion of a solution.


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    #2687
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Well she's right, the current system only leads to destruction of the planet. I look forward to her articles.

    Interesting that an unsuccessful election candidate should be afforded a soapbox from which to spout revolutionary nonsense.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #2688
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Interesting that an unsuccessful election candidate should be afforded a soapbox from which to spout revolutionary nonsense.
    Who decides that she gets this platform and why do they decide that she gets it especially after failing at the Ballot Box . Seems like some people don’t want to take that NO at the Ballot Box .


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    #2689
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Your view of nuclear is stuck in the 1950s like your uncle Joe. Thorium salt reactors for example are light years ahead of wind farms that have twenty year lifespans and need thousands of tons of concrete and thousands of acres dug up to accommodate them. The Greens and other communists masquerading as enviromentalists want energy poverty, not security. That's the only way they can have their socialist control grid, by inpoverishing most people. Check out Saoirse McHughs piece in the journal today, Marx would be proud.

    Uncle Joe??

    A nuclear power station would cost billions more than using renewable technology we have today. Nevermind the dangers involved and the storage of waste that has to be monitored for tens of thousands of years. Not a cheap solution unfortunately.
    The rest is conspiracy theory nonsense.


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    #2690
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    20Cent wrote: »
    Uncle Joe??

    A nuclear power station would cost billions more than using renewable technology we have today. Nevermind the dangers involved and the storage of waste that has to be monitored for tens of thousands of years. Not a cheap solution unfortunately.
    The rest is conspiracy theory nonsense.
    Bill Gates is actually in favour of New Nuclear . He’s hardly a conspiracy theorist .


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    #2691
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,475 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    blinding wrote: »
    Bill Gates is actually in favour of New Nuclear . He’s hardly a conspiracy theorist .

    Bill Gates is a hack.

    He pretends to be this all good all knowing philanthropist.

    He got where he is by smashing people’s lives, smashing small one man companies who had better ideas than he had. He ruined many lives, used his company position to bully rivals, often causing people to loose their jobs.

    Many see him as the second coming among men.

    But he’s a hack and he rarely gives information that goes against his many and varied business investments. He gets well positioned in any market before he comes in with that creepy smile telling everyone what to do for the better of human kind, but coincidentally it makes him money.


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    #2692
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    blinding wrote: »
    Bill Gates is actually in favour of New Nuclear . He’s hardly a conspiracy theorist .

    Was referring to "the left" wanting to impoverish people for some reason as the conspiracy theory.


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    #2693
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    20Cent wrote:
    Was referring to "the left" wanting to impoverish people for some reason as the conspiracy theory.


    I'm a proud lefty, and I know plenty of other lefties, and none of us want to do this, we actually want to do the opposite


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    #2694
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I'm a proud lefty, and I know plenty of other lefties, and none of us want to do this, we actually want to do the opposite

    Me as well.
    Most conspiracy theories at least make some sense.


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    #2695
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    20Cent wrote: »
    Me as well.
    Most conspiracy theories at least make some sense.

    oh im not so sure about that, there seems to be an element of facts, and a whole pile of strange warped thinking


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    #2696
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    blinding wrote: »
    Elite-ests ordering the Plebs that the elite-ests know best while carrying on as before themselves .

    Some things don’t change .

    Yep, he's a right arrogant tosser on Brexit too ... I'm a scientist !!! I'm a scientist!! I know best!!


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    #2697
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,714 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    20Cent wrote: »
    Uncle Joe??

    A nuclear power station would cost billions more than using renewable technology we have today. Nevermind the dangers involved and the storage of waste that has to be monitored for tens of thousands of years. Not a cheap solution unfortunately.
    The rest is conspiracy theory nonsense.

    Nuclear power stations work in pitch darkness - which is 6 months of every year - and when the wind isn't blowing or is blowing too much. I'd expect something so obviously superior to cost more.


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    #2698
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Nuclear power stations work in pitch darkness - which is 6 months of every year - and when the wind isn't blowing or is blowing too much. I'd expect something so obviously superior to cost more.

    Blended sources from a few different renewable energies, wind, sun etc not just one.


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    #2699
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Nuclear power stations work in pitch darkness - which is 6 months of every year - and when the wind isn't blowing or is blowing too much. I'd expect something so obviously superior to cost more.

    ive had the thought for many years now, that nuclear may also be needed along side renewables, im not convinced renewables alone can do the job, im hearing great things about thorium reactors


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    #2700
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Not following the whole thread. But two things are clear and people will fight tooth and nail denying it.

    1) if we continue as we are we’re fvcked

    2) and not continueing doesnt mean buying a 300 bhp Hybrid and gettin a snazzy mug for my latte instead of throwaway cup. The change required means forget about the current economic system and our attitude to pretty much everything

    Since 2 is never going to happen until it’s all too late revert to 1

    We are actually on a doomsday spiral it just doesn’t feel like it yet because we still have lattes. But make no mistake, Agent Smith is right.


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    #2701
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    20Cent wrote: »
    Blended sources from a few different renewable energies, wind, sun etc not just one.

    Why though, nuclear is miles more efficient and less damaging.


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