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Summer 2019 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I used to always give the west a lot of crap but going to Donegal for the first time in a long while, my opinion changed dramatically. The period I went was apparently one of the better ones up there this summer but even then, it was blustery with a good few rain showers. If that was one of the better periods this summer weather wise, sorry but I don’t think I could live in the west. Magnificent landscapes and eye candy for photographers or those who crave scenery but weather... really is a no-no. I hope to be going every once in a while in future to see the rest of it though and the weather will not stop me because it was one of my best experiences I have had in my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭sharper


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    The period I went was apparently one of the better ones up there this summer but even then, it was blustery with a good few rain showers.

    I grew up on the west coast and it's really a beautiful and magnificent place especially when the sun comes out. You become immune to it when you live there hence people comment about what tourists must think of the weather, they're not there for the weather. Irish people go elsewhere for the weather.

    People that spend a lot of time over on the East coast rarely experience the kind of drizzle that gets you damp which lasts all day every day for a week. It's not quite raining but it's not...not raining either.

    Met and RTE used to have a tendency to ignore anything that was going on there too so storms would come and go without mention. That all seems to be better now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Hi All,
    Bit of a crystal ball question but do you think we will experience any red alert warnings this autumn/winter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    bazlers wrote: »
    Hi All,
    Bit of a crystal ball question

    Jaysus you're right there.

    You'd be asking people to guess realistically. I'll guess yes, but that's based on nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    What you also need to remember is that during proper hot easterlies the west gets the calmest, sunniest and hottest weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Was sunny for a while earlier now clouded over and showers. It’s also very breezy and fresh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Doesnt look like Athenry is going to reach 300mm now

    Only 286mm up to now

    Needs 14mm today.

    Prob only 4mm

    Still new record....bar Lough Eske


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    pauldry wrote: »
    Doesnt look like Athenry is going to reach 300mm now

    Only 286mm up to now

    Needs 14mm today.

    Prob only 4mm

    Still new record....bar Lough Eske

    It’s 299.8mm last I counted Paul counting the rain since midnight.

    EDIT: I counted again and it's now 299.9mm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Torrential rain in Letterkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Lovely day in the west after a washout all day yesterday. Sitting out and it is lovely and warm once the sun stays out. Odd heavy shower but they are infrequent.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Bright and blustery in Castlebar, and thankfully it has been dry since 09.00 after about 30 hours straight of rain.

    And just like that it starts to rain again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I used to always give the west a lot of crap but going to Donegal for the first time in a long while, my opinion changed dramatically. The period I went was apparently one of the better ones up there this summer but even then, it was blustery with a good few rain showers. If that was one of the better periods this summer weather wise, sorry but I don’t think I could live in the west. Magnificent landscapes and eye candy for photographers or those who crave scenery but weather... really is a no-no. I hope to be going every once in a while in future to see the rest of it though and the weather will not stop me because it was one of my best experiences I have had in my life.

    The climate of the west is far more complex. Donegal is far more exposed to the Atlantic winds that we are here in inland Connacht for example and not really comparable at all.

    As great a place Dublin is, and as great as the people are, I would find the weather there to be an even more boring version of what we have on this side of the island, and I don't think I could handle that too well given that I can barely handle the mediocrity here as it is.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    As great a place Dublin is
    I don’t actually find Dublin a great place, quite the opposite to be honest with it needing a makeover but that’s a discussion for another forum :P . Weather wise, I guess I’ll make a better judgement on the west overall when I go to others in future and compare with reports I’ve seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I don’t actually find Dublin a great place, quite the opposite to be honest with it needing a makeover but that’s a discussion for another forum :P . Weather wise, I guess I’ll make a better judgement on the west overall when I go to others in future and compare with reports I’ve seen.
    Even when lived in Connemara which is in the same county as my own, I could not believe the general differences between there and here. Totally different world geographically, culturally and meteorologically!

    Dublin to me as an outsider is Ok. I've seen worse places.

    New Moon



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    pauldry wrote: »
    Doesnt look like Athenry is going to reach 300mm now

    Only 286mm up to now

    Needs 14mm today.

    Prob only 4mm

    Still new record....bar Lough Eske

    Sorry I am confused.
    Xenji wrote: »
    Technically 615mm in Lough Eske in 1985 would be the current record.

    Are you saying Athenry's 300mm is in 2nd place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Sorry I am confused.



    Are you saying Athenry's 300mm is in 2nd place?

    It is a record for the station, but nationally for August it recorded less than half the record and I doubt it is even close to the top 10, I think there are over 500 volunteer ran rain stations in the country so it is hard to correlate all the information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Xenji wrote: »
    It is a record for the station, but nationally for August it recorded less than half the record and I doubt it is even close to the top 10, I think there are over 500 volunteer ran rain stations in the country so it is hard to correlate all the information.

    I was looking through the daily data for August 1985 here for 'Mt. Lough Eske' and the figures as shown on the Met Eireann 'extreme' page for August do not add up for the station, as figures from the daily data for the station 'only' show 380.3mm for that month, which is sizable enough in itself.

    We also have to keep in mind that this station is also located at an altitude above 270m asl, so it is in a mountainous region in the NW and therefore always prone to excessive rainfall totals. Athenry, by comparison, is a low lying station in the relatively sheltered east Galway region, so while totals this month at this lowly station do not compare with those of Lough Eske in back in 1985, they are just as impressive, in fact, probably more so.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I'd have some caution with the met.ie extremes page as the max wind gust for August record is incorrect (144 km/h at Claremorris on 11 Aug 1999 it says) which I've told them about before but no change or response, so I wouldn't be surprised about other mistakes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I was looking through the daily data for August 1985 here for 'Mt. Lough Eske' and the figures as shown on the Met Eireann 'extreme' page for August do not add up for the station, as figures from the daily data for the station 'only' show 380.3mm for that month, which is sizable enough in itself.

    We also have to keep in mind that this station is also located at an altitude above 270m asl, so it is in a mountainous region in the NW and therefore always prone to excessive rainfall totals. Athenry, by comparison, is a low lying station in the relatively sheltered east Galway region, so while totals this month at this lowly station do not compare with those of Lough Eske in back in 1985, they are just as impressive, in fact, probably more so.

    Never had great trust myself when a station is close to a mountainous area, I have said it is exceptional for the area and it is especially for August with no major daily falls outside of yesterday and the 6th, these volunteered stations are prone to inaccuracies and anomalies .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Xenji wrote: »
    Never had great trust myself when a station is close to a mountainous area, I have said it is exceptional for the area and it is especially for August with no major daily falls outside of yesterday and the 4th, these volunteered stations are prone to inaccuracies and anomalies .

    I think you are right, but as Syran pointed out, it is a bit weird how Met Eireann are listing inaccurate figures on their 'Extremes' page, unless they hae more data available to them than what they have made available to the public, which I thought would be pretty much all of it in fairness.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I'd have some caution with the met.ie extremes page as the max wind gust for August record is incorrect (144 km/h at Claremorris on 11 Aug 1999 it says) which I've told them about before but no change or response, so I wouldn't be surprised about other mistakes.

    That was the day we had a near total solar eclipse across Ireland especially in the south. The totality path crossed southern England. It was a mostly cloudy day in the Limerick area. Don’t remember much rain that day. Remembering seeing the almost covered sun through the watery clouds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Sun is out...cool breeze but warm in the sun...you can really notice how much lower the sun is in the sky now...Galway


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    It's nice and sunny here but cooler than recently. It's currently 14.8C. The day's high was 18.3C, the first time in 10 days that the high was below 20 and the first time in 9 days that there was any rain recorded. There was 1.2mm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Another 0.1mm at Athenry up to now so their total is now 300.0mm for this August as far as I can see.

    Meanwhile, a very nice evening in Dublin after a grand day with decent sunny spells if a bit breezy. I'm definitely giving a 7/10 now for this August in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Fabulous clarity to the sky


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Despite 2 heavy but fairly short showers today, most of the day was bright and very sunny, cool wind, but in sheltered parts away from wind it felt rather warm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Another very pleasant day in dublin. Was a bit chilly at times but lovely sunshine for the most part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Autumn is upon us....


    10pm met reports.... Knock Airport 9 degrees


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Lovely clear sunny evening in Galway, I see from the radar that heavy showers are still piling in back in Letterkenny. Surprisingly little flooding on the drive down, a lot of standing water in fields and a few small rivers burst their banks but nothing major
    Xenji wrote: »
    It is a record for the station, but nationally for August it recorded less than half the record and I doubt it is even close to the top 10, I think there are over 500 volunteer ran rain stations in the country so it is hard to correlate all the information.

    I have all that info in an SQL table, haven't got my laptop at the moment but can have a look when I'm back home tomorrow evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    What was this Summer like for average sunshine and rainfall?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    i thought today was supposed to be a wash out. cracking day in waterford sunshine all day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    In South Sligo it has been raining pretty much constantly for 48 hours. I have never seen a wetter August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    It looks like, provisionally at least, that Athenry did not make the 300mm for the month of August with 297.3 being the initial figure (unless it changes later on)

    Newport next in line at 228.9mm. Stations that did not breech the 100mm mark for the month inc all of the Dublin stations, Oak Park & Johnstown Castle. Nationally, the mean total came in at 146mm, which is around 160% of normal, while the aggregate mean temp came in a 0.4c above average.

    Data from Met Eireann.

    New Moon



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    JJayoo wrote: »
    In South Sligo it has been raining pretty much constantly for 48 hours. I have never seen a wetter August.

    The worst August that i can remember. I have been trying to spray my garden for a the full month and there has literally been 1 dry day.

    Of course the Met eireann forecasts have been typically atrocious. No rain predicted for several hours, 30 minutes later another deluge. Don't even know why they bother. They might get it right for the east, but a lucky dip would be more accurate at predicting the weather in the west then Met Eireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Of course the Met eireann forecasts have been typically atrocious. No rain predicted for several hours, 30 minutes later another deluge. Don't even know why they bother. They might get it right for the east, but a lucky dip would be more accurate at predicting the weather in the west then Met Eireann.

    Can I ask, are you looking at their automated hour-hour forecast for you location? If you are, it's shockingly bad at forecasting rainfalls to anything more certain than a vague idea. It relies entirely on its model of forecasting where the showers will be, and is not the reality.

    The text based forecast is better.


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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Can I ask, are you looking at their automated hour-hour forecast for you location? If you are, it's shockingly bad at forecasting rainfalls to anything more certain than a vague idea. It relies entirely on its model of forecasting where the showers will be, and is not the reality.

    The text based forecast is better.

    I had, they had no rain in Mayo until 2PM today on that forecaster. But it lashed for the last 30 minutes. Its that bad everyday. They are as well to take that site down, because all its doing is misleading people. €60 of spray wasted this month so far.

    The live radar forecast is also useless as the showers are here before they show up on that chart.

    Is there any other job where you can be so wrong so often and still keep your job as a forecaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    It looks like, provisionally at least, that Athenry did not make the 300mm for the month of August with 297.3 being the initial figure (unless it changes later on)

    Newport next in line at 228.9mm. Stations that did not breech the 100mm mark for the month inc all of the Dublin stations, Oak Park & Johnstown Castle. Nationally, the mean total came in at 146mm, which is around 160% of normal, while the aggregate mean temp came in a 0.4c above average.

    Data from Met Eireann.
    Just 74.4mm at my location near Arklow for the entire month of August
    Ground is like solid cement

    (A repeat of last of to Dec's extremely wet period would have to happen to bring the area up to its annual average rainfall-As it stands we are only 150mm or so ahead of last year which included nearly 3 months of practically no rain fall)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    A lovely bright sunny morning here in Dublin .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    It looks like, provisionally at least, that Athenry did not make the 300mm for the month of August with 297.3 being the initial figure (unless it changes later on)

    Newport next in line at 228.9mm. Stations that did not breech the 100mm mark for the month inc all of the Dublin stations, Oak Park & Johnstown Castle. Nationally, the mean total came in at 146mm, which is around 160% of normal, while the aggregate mean temp came in a 0.4c above average.

    Data from Met Eireann.

    At odds with their hourly totals for yesterday which give 13.9mm at Athenry but I guess they’re not reliable either seeing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    At odds with their hourly totals for yesterday which give 13.9mm at Athenry but I guess they’re not reliable either seeing this.

    Possibly because the 'hourly' reports available on the 'current' and 'yesterday's' page include data for between 11pm and midnight of the previous day. I think it would be more fitting if they started each day at the 00.00 reports, which would be more inline with the daily data which start and end at midnight.

    New Moon



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod Note: Artane2002 has opened a brand new shiny thread for Autumn 2019 here


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Another lovely day in dublin. Still barely a drop of rain here in north dublin since last Thursday 22nd august. August ended up quite a pleasant month in the east


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Definitely going for a 6.5 out of 10 for summer 2019. Poor June, very nice July and quite a nice August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Provisional IMT in the end only 14.9c for Ireland during summer 2019... slightly above avg but cooler than summer 2010, 2013, 2016 and 2018. Almost on par with 2014. Things to remember though are that June was cooler than average and there will be regional variation.

    Data from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Mod Note: Artane2002 has opened a brand new shiny thread for Autumn 2019 here


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    Here's a link to it to make sure everyone's on the same page

    [url] https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058011608/1/[/url]


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Can I ask, are you looking at their automated hour-hour forecast for you location? If you are, it's shockingly bad at forecasting rainfalls to anything more certain than a vague idea. It relies entirely on its model of forecasting where the showers will be, and is not the reality.

    The text based forecast is better.


    Or the radar animation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Definitely going for a 6.5 out of 10 for summer 2019. Poor June, very nice July and quite a nice August.

    Will give it 2 out of 10 here, and that 2 is only for because we had some nice downpours.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Will give it 2 out of 10 here, and that 2 is only for because we had some nice downpours.

    Where are you? West coast I am assuming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Where are you? West coast I am assuming

    The west, but not the coast.

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    So long summer 2019. I give it a 6/10 for Dublin. I've upgraded my previous ratings for August as last 10 days were better than expected + virtually no rain in Dublin.


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