Arcade 1Ups replica cabs thread

ozmo · 13-01-2019 10:13am

I made a converter board that connects the socket on the 1Up control board to the RPi- GPIO header - using 2 old harddrive cables... no usb converters needed.

Works ok

Just need assemble in the cabinet and figure best key layout for mame.

Doge · 13-01-2019 2:09pm

ozmo wrote: »

I made a converter board that connects the socket on the 1Up control board to the RPi- GPIO header - using 2 old harddrive cables... no usb converters needed.

Works ok

Just need assemble in the cabinet and figure best key layout for mame.

That's very clever dude. Well done!

CiDeRmAn · 13-01-2019 10:15pm

Doge wrote: »

€178 for the Asteroids and Space Invaders cabs new on their site also, the only remaining cab in the listing:

https://www.gamestop.ie/SearchResult/QuickSearch?q=Arcade1up

I'll be seeking advice soon on how to mount the pc parts in the case so they don't move around.

I also can't see away of removing the various revisions from showing up as duplicate games in Attract Mode with the game logos.

Seems like it's going to take some hard work.

The Invaders cab is ripe for converting to a classic vert game board.

iamtony · 14-01-2019 12:17am

Nba jam! good god if they keep producing these I may have to invest in a gaming shed.

CiDeRmAn · 14-01-2019 12:59am

iamtony wrote: »

Nba jam! good god if they keep producing these I may have to invest in a gaming shed.

Sure, why not??

Off to the sales in Woodies... Quick shed build later... Boom, gaming cave of wonders!

iamtony · 17-01-2019 1:16pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Sure, why not??

Off to the sales in Woodies... Quick shed build later... Boom, gaming cave of wonders!

Funny enough my father in law is building us a shed in the near future, unfortunately I'll need to put real life stuff in it like tools and bikes and toys. Anyway judging by the customer service I'm receiving from them at the moment I won't be putting anymore business..... Ah who am I kidding I probably still will:D
So I'm still waiting for my replacment screen, emailed them yesterday and they got back just not to say they are chasing their warehouse to see where it is. My bet is they don't even have a replacement in stock and I'll be waiting a long time.

iamtony · 19-01-2019 1:16am

And still waiting for a reply, it must be a Huge warehouse. Does anyone know if gamestop are restocking these at all? I'd love to bring it back and swop if for a street fighter unit.

Doge · 23-01-2019 7:15pm

Finally managed to filter my roms so only the parent rom is listed, therefore no more clones!

Also figured out how to filter games by keyword in Attract Mode, i was missing catver.ini so now filtering works, although games of a certian type were still left over.

So then I used a utility called MAME Content Manager Plus to filter out all the non Arcade Roms,
casino, mahjong, mature games etc..
from the romset (including random stuff like satelite TV boxes, digital multimeter firmware and god knows what else!)

Kicks clrmamepro and romcenter in the ass, far more easier to use.
It took a while but was worth it, im now almost 27,000 roms lighter.

So now I'm down to exactly 2600 games listed in Attract Mode which isn't too bad.

Only problem is the game fylers aren't centred, fan art takes precedence over flyers by default if available:

Jerichoholic · 23-01-2019 7:46pm

Littlewoods are selling these for €520.

Criminals!

iamtony · 23-01-2019 9:52pm

iamtony wrote: »

And still waiting for a reply, it must be a Huge warehouse. Does anyone know if gamestop are restocking these at all? I'd love to bring it back and swop if for a street fighter unit.

They said yesterday (after I emailed again) it would be shipped that day and I would receive an email with a tracking number once parcel force skanedbthw package but low and behold no email.
They are also out of stock in the Dock protectors. Won't be till the end of January.
So to sum it up their customer service is absolutely terrible.
I wouldn't mind if they just told me out straight they didn't have it or whatever but they keep saying its on the way.

Doge · 23-01-2019 11:35pm

iamtony wrote: »

They said yesterday (after I emailed again) it would be shipped that day and I would receive an email with a tracking number once parcel force skanedbthw package but low and behold no email.
They are also out of stock in the Dock protectors. Won't be till the end of January.
So to sum it up their customer service is absolutely terrible.
I wouldn't mind if they just told me out straight they didn't have it or whatever but they keep saying its on the way.

I requested a dock protector on the 21st of December and still havent received anything.

Doge · 24-01-2019 1:50am

Youtuber Detroit Love shows how some other users made backlit Marquees for their Arcade1UP cabs, there's even a guy selling full kits to allow people to do it themselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjZqD4igb1s

After seeing the difference I think I'm going to have to do the same myself!

Jerichoholic · 24-01-2019 8:57am

Any hope of the Galaga machine being sold over here?

CiDeRmAn · 24-01-2019 10:06am

The only thing I need is the new spinner from the team in the US, that will be a drop in replacement for the existing one on my Asteroids/Tempest cab.
But the Galaga cab would be class, though I would probably stick a vertical 60in1 or similar into it, I wouldn't pay more than €200 for it though!

CathalDublin · 24-01-2019 10:57am

Doge wrote: »

Finally managed to filter my roms so only the parent rom is listed, therefore no more clones!

Also figured out how to filter games by keyword in Attract Mode, i was missing catver.ini so now filtering works, although games of a certian type were still left over.

So then I used a utility called MAME Content Manager Plus to filter out all the non Arcade Roms,
casino, mahjong, mature games etc..
from the romset (including random stuff like satelite TV boxes, digital multimeter firmware and god knows what else!)

Kicks clrmamepro and romcenter in the ass, far more easier to use.
It took a while but was worth it, im now almost 27,000 roms lighter.

So now I'm down to exactly 2600 games listed in Attract Mode which isn't too bad.

Only problem is the game fylers aren't centred, fan art takes precedence over flyers by default if available:

Attract mode is very easy to alter the theme layout files to fix artwork locations/etc.
go into the layouts folder and then into the layout you are using, take a backup of the layout.nut, then open the original and go to town on it, it's pretty easy to work out whats going on, most themes have comments in there.
example:
local flyer = fe.add_artwork("flyer",23, 85, 260, 345 );

23 is the x axis
85 is the y axis
260 is the width
245 is the height

you should also be able to comment out the fan art in that file somewhere

Doge · 25-01-2019 3:36am

Awesome man, thanks! Do you use it yourself in your MAME setup?

I had a look at layout.but alright but didn't know what the numbers related to.

I hit another snag with the setup, I'm probably going to need to splurge on a second hand GTX 750 TI as I cannot run scanlines with the integrated Intel HD graphics 2000 video card.
The HLSL runs even street fighter II at a snails pace,.and it won't run the more efficient GLSL as i think it required a later version of Open GL than 3.1 which is the highest the card supports. Just results in a black screen.

I was considering buying one of the cheap 20euro hdmi scanlines generator PCBs but it means more mess and it would be limited to horizontal scanlines only which would look wrong for shmups and other vertical games.

TBH I would have no interest in using MAME without scanlines they just make that much difference.

It's a shame as the Tiny 7 installation I have boots really quickly into attract mode with the SSD drive as is.

Doge · 25-01-2019 7:02am

GTX 750 TI ordered! Still cheaper than an SLG 3000

Also found some nice HLSL settings for MAME on the hyperspin forums, including one for vector games to give them more glow:

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/574-mame-hlsl-ver-2/

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I like how this one isn't just plain scanlines but looks like arperture grill also.

Zoom in on that goodness.

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iamtony · 26-01-2019 12:18am

So screen finally arrive! Only took a month to get sorted:rolleyes:
Anyway have it installed now, only afterwards did I realise I should of just saved myself the hassle and just replace the board. The new screen doesn't seem to fit as snug and there's a little gap between the screen and the screen protector, either that or the machine didn't go back together the same way it came apart. Can anyone confirm if the plastic screen protector meets the wood on theirs?

CiDeRmAn · 26-01-2019 12:10pm

I'm still awaiting my control panel protector, a month later.
I assume the demand is high hence the delay.

iamtony · 26-01-2019 12:17pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm still awaiting my control panel protector, a month later.
I assume the demand is high hence the delay.

Yeah the told me end of January before they got stock of the Dock protector, and judging by the **** I've been told I wouldn't expect it till end of February.
Anyway great fun is been had with the rampage cab, its kinda good you can only play a certain few games, as it makes you explore them alot more. For now anyway. Shame the high scores reset everytime you switch games. I know it's true to the originals but that is what makes people keep coming back. I've no problem keeping it plugged in round the clock but even that doesn't help.

26-01-2019 3:34pm

iamtony wrote: »

Yeah the told me end of January before they got stock of the Dock protector, and judging by the **** I've been told I wouldn't expect it till end of February.
Anyway great fun is been had with the rampage cab, its kinda good you can only play a certain few games, as it makes you explore them alot more. For now anyway. Shame the high scores reset everytime you switch games. I know it's true to the originals but that is what makes people keep coming back. I've no problem keeping it plugged in round the clock but even that doesn't help.

I was told mid February due to issues at their warehouse.

Doge · 26-01-2019 9:17pm

Same here.

iamtony is great screen protector hard plastic or just a plastic film?

You're meant to take the plastic film off, otherwise the colours look washed out.

My cab only came with the plastic film.

Doge · 26-01-2019 9:26pm

CathalDublin wrote: »

Attract mode is very easy to alter the theme layout files to fix artwork locations/etc.
go into the layouts folder and then into the layout you are using, take a backup of the layout.nut, then open the original and go to town on it, it's pretty easy to work out whats going on, most themes have comments in there.
example:
local flyer = fe.add_artwork("flyer",23, 85, 260, 345 );

23 is the x axis
85 is the y axis
260 is the width
245 is the height

you should also be able to comment out the fan art in that file somewhere

I gave this a go but strangely enough there was no change.

I edited the layout.nut file for the nevato theme, edited the numbers next to flyers on the fe.add_artwork line and Also the fanart line just in case but nothing!

Was onto the creator of the theme on the forums but he hasn't replied yet.

iamtony · 26-01-2019 10:34pm

:pac:

Doge wrote: »

Same here.

iamtony is great screen protector hard plastic or just a plastic film?

You're meant to take the plastic film off, otherwise the colours look washed out.

My cab only came with the plastic film.

I took the plastic film off the hard plastic screen with artwork around the screen which covers the lcd and is held in place with 4 black screws. I suppose you could call it the screen. But the plastic edge on the new one doesn't meet the inside of the side of the unit if that makes sense. There's a gap of about 2mm each side. I think the old screen was flush.

Edit: I just reread my post and I didn't mean a gap between the screen and the screen protector. I meant a gap between the plastic screen and the actually machine.

Shapey Fiend · 27-01-2019 3:16pm

€180 for these seems like a bit of a steal. Would it be possible change the control panel out if I wanted to stick mame in it?

Doge · 27-01-2019 3:29pm

You could just drill extra holes into the control panel, in my case I drilled ones for the coin buttons for the street fighter II cab.

Doge wrote: »

Just got the extra holes drilled into the cab now for MAME, im just waiting on RAM to arrive from ebay next week and i can install the PC then.

McDermotX · 27-01-2019 4:03pm

Other option is to drill a couple 'coin' holes on the angled fascia (at your knees so to speak), plus a flush USB extension if so desired.
That way, you wouldn't need to do a job on the overlay protector if/when they manage to get them out to people.

Not mine, but just for an indication (though could do without the eye-gouging light show)

Doge · 28-01-2019 9:29pm

Detroit Love hits the mark on what these cabinets are, I have zero time for all the snobbery and hate they receive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FQojIeUp_U

The fact that such a product even exists despite the hiccups that go along with a new product, make these times a great and interesting time to be alive for retro gaming enthusiasts.

80s Synth Pop · 28-01-2019 11:40pm

You can do key combinations like hold 1P button and press jab to add credits if you have an ultimarc pac key encoder.

Doge · 01-02-2019 3:46am

Heres how my setup currently reboots / boots up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM383Bxo8xU

With all the mods I done you can't even tell it's booting into Windows 7, almost looks like a Pi installation except it boots much faster!

Oh and MAME 0206 was released yesterday, no longer am I running the latest version.

Doge · 02-02-2019 6:32pm

So i’m thinking of ditching the plastic overlay when it does arrive eventually as I’ll have to cut holes into it for the extra buttons and speakers and will probably melt the thing using holesaws in the process and fail to get a clean cut.

So I’m thinking of using Rust-Oleums clear protective spray for painted surfaces instead of some cheap plastic / acrylic cover.
Anyone have experience with it?
Should I go for Matt, semi gloss or Gloss? I’m thinking Matt.

You can get it from your local woodies:
https://www.woodies.ie/crystal-clear-matt-1055072

Doge · 03-02-2019 5:50am

So I posted the same question up on Reddit and look what popped up underneath to show that there's no replies yet...

You'd swear they knew my username on here!

Corholio · 03-02-2019 3:22pm

There's 'mini' ones available as well from New Wave toys. Street Fighter, Tempest and Centipede. If you thought 1UP's were small.....:P

https://newwavetoys.com/products/street-fighter-2-x-replicade

03-02-2019 7:24pm

Corholio wrote: »

There's 'mini' ones available as well from New Wave toys. Street Fighter, Tempest and Centipede. If you thought 1UP's were small.....:P

https://newwavetoys.com/products/street-fighter-2-x-replicade

Check out quartercade too

Jerichoholic · 04-02-2019 7:13pm

They'll eventually release full size cabs if they sell well surely. Ideally I'd buy 3 full size cabs, one normal 6 button sticks, one with a wheel and one with a lightgun. Are these possible to buy anywhere that have the relevant MAME configured and ready to go?

Doge · 05-02-2019 1:19am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

They'll eventually release full size cabs if they sell well surely. Ideally I'd buy 3 full size cabs, one normal 6 button sticks, one with a wheel and one with a lightgun. Are these possible to buy anywhere that have the relevant MAME configured and ready to go?

Nope. Closest you’ll get is second hand cabs for sale with MAME.

Or if you’re willing to diy, flatpack arcades from the U.K.

Light guns are a waste of time on LCD screens due to the input lag:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbSkLm3wX8

CiDeRmAn · 08-02-2019 8:08am

Guy over on the 1Up Facebook group is suggesting that the Asteroids/Tempest cab has Gravitar and Asteroids Deluxe preinstalled on the PCB, just inaccessible from the main menu, accessible via the usb/keyboard hack.
He is sticking to his story but there is nothing out there to suggest he's right.
Anyone here know any different?

Doge · 08-02-2019 9:50am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Guy over on the 1Up Facebook group is suggesting that the Asteroids/Tempest cab has Gravitar and Asteroids Deluxe preinstalled on the PCB, just inaccessible from the main menu, accessible via the usb/keyboard hack.
He is sticking to his story but there is nothing out there to suggest he's right.
Anyone here know any different?

Why not just put in a pi and play some lotsa shmups including asteroid deluxe on the cab!

Take sugrus motto as inspiration:
Hack things better!

Speaking of hacks this is a lovely and simple one for the backdoor of the cab.

A guy in the Arcade1UP & modding Facebook group put hinges on the backdoor and used one of the stock balltop as a handle.
Must say it looks very well indeed:

Inviere · 08-02-2019 9:59am

Doge wrote: »

Why not just put in a pi and play some lotsa shmups including asteroid deluxe on the cab!

A Pi walks all over the standard innards. The only thing to be careful of, is being really disciplined with adding games. I'd suggest ad the stock games that come with the cabinet, and no less than 10 more. They can be changed/swapped at will, but having that many games leads to Netflix syndrome.

Doge · 08-02-2019 10:45am

Inviere wrote: »

A Pi walks all over the standard innards. The only thing to be careful of, is being really disciplined with adding games. I'd suggest ad the stock games that come with the cabinet, and no less than 10 more. They can be changed/swapped at will, but having that many games leads to Netflix syndrome.

Full Romset ftw. :P You can always add 10 favourites to the front end.

It would be a pain constantly adding more games imo, especially for me since I lost my little wifi adapter recently!

Inviere · 08-02-2019 10:50am

Doge wrote: »

Full Romset ftw. :P You can always add 10 favourites to the front end.

It would be a pain constantly adding more games imo, especially for me since I lost my little wifi adapter recently!

I've been there with Mamecabs & bartops before...you actually *need* it to have as little as possible on it, to ensure you actually play it. If it's too easy to ad new games, that's what you'll do. It should be the same as swapping out a pcb, ie, requires effort

CiDeRmAn · 08-02-2019 11:58am

Inviere wrote: »

A Pi walks all over the standard innards. The only thing to be careful of, is being really disciplined with adding games. I'd suggest ad the stock games that come with the cabinet, and no less than 10 more. They can be changed/swapped at will, but having that many games leads to Netflix syndrome.

TBH I'm anxious about pulling it all apart.
I have a PiZero there, unloved and perfect for the kinds of games I would want, but I have not the wit or the will to convert it over, even though I know it would be better.
Would a Pi even work with the "spinner" the cab comes with??
Or would I be investing all over again?

It appears that the Asteroids cab is making the move to live next to the AWSD cab, so it may get more use.
Can we get the risers here for it?

ozmo · 08-02-2019 12:42pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Guy over on the 1Up Facebook group is suggesting that the Asteroids/Tempest cab has Gravitar and Asteroids Deluxe preinstalled on the PCB, just inaccessible from the main menu, accessible via the usb/keyboard hack.
He is sticking to his story but there is nothing out there to suggest he's right.
Anyone here know any different?

I did it with the Rampage cabinet - works.

I have several versions of Gauntlet available to me now - the easier First Arcade release
-I think the version normally available is the harder version 4? The earlier versions people used to be able play all day on just the one coin

..And also some other slightly different versions.

All are two player versions though - I think I may have the newer cabinet as I didn't get the other games.

I also did the Audio hardware mod - just two points to solder together so you get both left and right audio - not just one channel - it did improve the sound!
Points are Sooo tiny though - I recommend you don't do it unless you have a very small - preferably surface mount, soldering iron.

This weekend I will try get round to his other hack - the Serial Port one - to enable the Second hidden menu.
Haven't done it yet because my TTL converters are all 5v but the board is 3v i think...

ozmo · 08-02-2019 12:54pm

Doge wrote: »

Why not just put in a pi and play some lotsa shmups including asteroid deluxe on the cab!

Take sugrus motto as inspiration:
Hack things better!

I started doing this myself - made up the cables - but the setup of the PI to make it as easy to use was just overwelming the number of things to configure...
Most basic of which was it was so tricky to get enough stock buttons configurable to select games and insert coins etc.

CiDeRmAn · 08-02-2019 2:49pm

Doge wrote: »

Full Romset ftw. :P You can always add 10 favourites to the front end.

It would be a pain constantly adding more games imo, especially for me since I lost my little wifi adapter recently!

On the Asteroids cab I would only want what the control panel supports, and no more.
So that's anything that can play off the spinner and a horizontal monitor.
When/If the Galaga/Galaxians machine is released here I would love to turn that into a pure vert Shmups cab.

Doge · 09-02-2019 1:43am

Silly me, I incorrectly thought that asteroids had a vertical monitor despite only playing it recently on my own cab and the real thing in Barcadia last year!

Anyway the Arcade1UP asteroids cab is currently in stock in the Cork GameStop Patrick's Street according to the map, for €178.

The last cab to be listed on their site.

https://www.gamestop.ie/Loot/Games/68217/arcade1up-atari-asteroids

Doge · 09-02-2019 1:53am

ozmo wrote: »

I started doing this myself - made up the cables - but the setup of the PI to make it as easy to use was just overwelming the number of things to configure...
Most basic of which was it was so tricky to get enough stock buttons configurable to select games and insert coins etc.

Not sure how it works ok the Pi but I physically had the first button in button 0 on the zero delay encoder, button 2 in 1, button 3 in 2, and so on upto button 6, and then had the start button and coin button in next 2 in that order.

All games work perfectly in MAME in windows that way.

You should hit tab in MAME and set the controls for all games like that. Instead of having to configure them for each game.

Even the likes of street fighter II were mapped correctly using this default for all games.

FR.Ted Crilly · 09-02-2019 2:09am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Apparently, this is now a thing

https://www.gamestop.ie/SearchResult/QuickSearch?platform=&rootGenre=&age=&listSkus=265368%2C+265369%2C+265370%2C+265371%2C+265372&spMailingID=56002470&spUserID=OTEyMDAyODg1ODUS1&spJobID=1342373710&spReportId=MTM0MjM3MzcxMAS2

Four games per two thirds scale cab.

Mortal Combat
Midway
Atari Asteroids
Atari Centipede

The latter Centipede one comes with a trackball and the game list includes the title game plus Millipede, Missile Command and Breakout

Each cab is €399

Clicked your link it's 178 Euro now ....it's not a full size cabinet but still cool....

CiDeRmAn · 09-02-2019 7:12am

FR.Ted Crilly wrote: »

Clicked your link it's 178 Euro now ....it's not a full size cabinet but still cool....

No, but they are more house friendly at the scale used, One available to collect in the Liffey St branch.

Doge · 11-02-2019 2:50am

Check this 3/4 scale Alternative kit to the Arcade1up in the US. it already has Suzo Happ buttons and joysticks but you need to source a monitor yourself:

https://www.recroommasters.com/19-Xtension-Alpha-Cade-for-Raspberry-Pi-and-PC-p/rm-xt-alpha-emulation.htm

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