Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

Elmo · 18-12-2019 4:17pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Aren't we repeatedly told that these presenters are private contractors, not owed the usual trappings of employment like pensions, whenever we criticise their stratospheric costs.

She would be staff AFAIK, she isn't one of the top earners.

I don't know I'd still fire the man in charge of 2 bureaus one in Belfast and one in London for sending a presenting team to both locations when staff are already in those locations. None of those presenters should have been sent, when others could have covered.

Kivaro · 14-01-2020 6:04pm

Our money is being well spent on tonight's episode of RTE Investigates.
"Two years after being recognised as a distinct ethnic group, RTE Investigates examines the accommodation crisis for travellers."

With all the real crisis situations going on in Ireland, is that what the crack team of RTE investigators spend days/weeks/months working on?
My guess is that this will be a one-sided investigation e.g. questions will not be asked on the employment situation of these travellers, or the team will not investigate the source of funds behind the high-end vehicles of some of these travellers looking for free housing.

Where is RTE's investigation into the Insurance industry in Ireland?
Or indeed the false claimants who are driving up insurance prices for the rest of us? (Hint: you may find a correlation between these scammers and the topic of the 'show' tonight).

Elmo · 14-01-2020 8:48pm

Kivaro wrote: »

Where is RTE's investigation into the Insurance industry in Ireland?
Or indeed the false claimants who are driving up insurance prices for the rest of us? (Hint: you may find a correlation between these scammers and the topic of the 'show' tonight).

I’d say you’d also find a few insurance companies behind those inflated insurance costs.

elperello · 14-01-2020 9:27pm

That programme has been postponed.
Longer Prime Time followed by Showbands.

end of the road · 15-01-2020 12:05am

Kivaro wrote: »

Our money is being well spent on tonight's episode of RTE Investigates.
"Two years after being recognised as a distinct ethnic group, RTE Investigates examines the accommodation crisis for travellers."

With all the real crisis situations going on in Ireland, is that what the crack team of RTE investigators spend days/weeks/months working on?

real crisis situations?
if travelers are facing issues accessing accommodation then i am afraid, that is a crisis. one's disagreement with them or other issues involving members of the community, or even one's dislike of them does not change that reality.

Kivaro wrote: »

My guess is that this will be a one-sided investigation e.g. questions will not be asked on the employment situation of these travellers, or the team will not investigate the source of funds behind the high-end vehicles of some of these travellers looking for free housing.

unless it's relevant to the theme of the program then there is no reason to waste time investigating such issues as it takes away from what the program is there to hi-light.
by all means investigate those issues separately, i think it has been done already, but the program would be about the accommodation crisis travelers face and not other issues that some members of the community will be involved in.
there is nothing 1 sided about investigating a specific issue effecting a community some will have issues with or even dislike.

Kivaro wrote: »

Where is RTE's investigation into the Insurance industry in Ireland?
Or indeed the false claimants who are driving up insurance prices for the rest of us? (Hint: you may find a correlation between these scammers and the topic of the 'show' tonight).

i'm sure it will come at some stage.

Pa ElGrande · 18-01-2020 10:44pm

Its not just the TV shows they repeat, the guests are repeats as well

THE LATE MATE SHOW Dermot Bannon appeared 11 times on RTE chat shows over past four years as we reveal Irish telly’s most repeated guests.

mgn · 18-01-2020 10:58pm

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Its not just the TV shows they repeat, the guests are repeats as well

THE LATE MATE SHOW Dermot Bannon appeared 11 times on RTE chat shows over past four years as we reveal Irish telly’s most repeated guests.

And then the have the cheek to look for an increase in the licence fee, shower of muppets.

ShamNNspace · 18-01-2020 10:59pm

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Its not just the TV shows they repeat, the guests are repeats as well

THE LATE MATE SHOW Dermot Bannon appeared 11 times on RTE chat shows over past four years as we reveal Irish telly’s most repeated guests.

And if that wasn't enough the licence payer subsidises a large extension to his home and I see they're about to do the same for Dr Avas property in Portugal

elperello · 18-01-2020 11:07pm

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Its not just the TV shows they repeat, the guests are repeats as well

THE LATE MATE SHOW Dermot Bannon appeared 11 times on RTE chat shows over past four years as we reveal Irish telly’s most repeated guests.

I suppose it being a small country the pool of prospective guests is quite restricted.
Probably not enough international guests coming to Dublin these days.
What about a return to the panel type of chat show?

dublinman1990 · 18-01-2020 11:41pm

Nathan Carter is on again with his 3 Arena show after The Tommy Tiernan Show tonight. Has that been repeated before?

Shefwedfan · 19-01-2020 8:43pm

Plenty of things to complain about but not sure who else they are supposed to put onto the Late Late Show?

To be honest,I don't mind a bit of Dermot.

If RTE spent millions flying in guests from around the World people would complain about that.

RTE knows it gets a big audience for Late Late, so might as well try and push a few of its own shows while it is doing it. All the channels do the same.

Nevin Parsnipp · 19-01-2020 9:02pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Plenty of things to complain about but not sure who else they are supposed to put onto the Late Late Show?

To be honest,I don't mind a bit of Dermot.

If RTE spent millions flying in guests from around the World people would complain about that.

RTE knows it gets a big audience for Late Late, so might as well try and push a few of its own shows while it is doing it. All the channels do the same.

Well said Shef....you nailed it there ...nice and succinct.

Some RTE moaners think IRE is the center of the Universe.

Not just a small backwater in the shadow of the United Kingdom ....

Boggles · 19-01-2020 9:07pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Plenty of things to complain about but not sure who else they are supposed to put onto the Late Late Show?

To be honest,I don't mind a bit of Dermot.

If RTE spent millions flying in guests from around the World people would complain about that.

RTE knows it gets a big audience for Late Late, so might as well try and push a few of its own shows while it is doing it. All the channels do the same.

Big names won't travel past London anymore, the big shows over there are pre-records, midweek when the "stars" usually do their press.

The Late Late is live and unlike 99% of the shows out there.

There isn't many shows interviewing the parents of a dead child and then going to interview an original Beatle who is by no means is anyway bitter, "honestly".

Both fascinating interviews I thought.

People expect too much from the Late Late and are just whinging because it's an Irish past time.

Elmo · 20-01-2020 1:18pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Plenty of things to complain about but not sure who else they are supposed to put onto the Late Late Show?

To be honest,I don't mind a bit of Dermot.

If RTE spent millions flying in guests from around the World people would complain about that.

RTE knows it gets a big audience for Late Late, so might as well try and push a few of its own shows while it is doing it. All the channels do the same.

I think its a non-story, but I would rather read the mirror than watch Dermot and Ryan have a chat about the only programme RTÉ make!

Interestingly TLLS audience has been waning but with the 4 deaths RIP they increase their audience. I suspect with the pre-recorded TTS and its popularity that it will help TLLS on Friday night.

Elmo · 20-01-2020 1:21pm

Boggles wrote: »

There isn't many shows interviewing the parents of a dead child and then going to interview an original Beatle who is by no means is anyway bitter, "honestly".

Both fascinating interviews I thought.

IMO this is the problem with TLLS which I have stated before, they need a sad story, good forbid anyone should have a laugh. I didn't watch because TLLS is not something I am interested in, I think Tommy is slowly getting to that sad story emotional story Chat Show. Ray D'Arcy was doing the same thing on a different night.

NIMAN · 20-01-2020 1:25pm

Elmo wrote: »

IMO this is the problem with TLLS which I have stated before, they need a sad story, good forbid anyone should have a laugh. I didn't watch because TLLS is not something I am interested in, I think Tommy is slowly getting to that sad story emotional story Chat Show. Ray D'Arcy was doing the same thing on a different night.

... and don't forget both Tubs and Darcy do it during the day quite often as well.

Elmo · 20-01-2020 3:05pm

NIMAN wrote: »

... and don't forget both Tubs and Darcy do it during the day quite often as well.

On the way into work was listening to Tubs talk to a woman who'd moved to Vancouver. Originally from Tipp, moved to Auz when she was 2, then moved back to Ireland at 18 and then up to Dublin for 15years, she wasn't home for christmas and herself and her friend went drinking on Christmas Eve. She down 3 shots of vodka before going to the pub, then 5 doubles in the pub and guess what she blacked out. Woke up in her own bed with a hospital tag on her hand, no recollection of the night.

Not sure if this was at all a story, maybe something happened after that but it took so long just to get to the black out I gave up.

2smiggy · 20-01-2020 3:13pm

Elmo wrote: »

On the way into work was listening to Tubs talk to a woman who'd moved to Vancouver. Originally from Tipp, moved to Auz when she was 2, then moved back to Ireland at 18 and then up to Dublin for 15years, she wasn't home for christmas and herself and her friend went drinking on Christmas Eve. She down 3 shots of vodka before going to the pub, then 5 doubles in the pub and guess what she blacked out. Woke up in her own bed with a hospital tag on her hand, no recollection of the night.

Not sure if this was at all a story, maybe something happened after that but it took so long just to get to the black out I gave up.

may have read that , she went down stairs to disapproving looks from her irish housemates. has reconsidered her drinking, has now giving it up, or something like that

ohnonotgmail · 20-01-2020 3:18pm

2smiggy wrote: »

may have read that , she went down stairs to disapproving looks from her irish housemates. has reconsidered her drinking, has now giving it up, or something like that

One bad night on the drink and she gives up? Lightweight.

Boggles · 20-01-2020 5:16pm

Elmo wrote: »

IMO this is the problem with TLLS which I have stated before, they need a sad story, good forbid anyone should have a laugh. I didn't watch because TLLS is not something I am interested in, I think Tommy is slowly getting to that sad story emotional story Chat Show. Ray D'Arcy was doing the same thing on a different night.

The Late Late Show has always been a mix since it's inception.

I don't think that is the problem with it, unless you think that was the problem with it since the start?

Do you want another Graham Norton / Ross style pre-record, celeb comes on - tells "witty" story - flogs whatever shíté they are selling while the host belts out some "risky" commentary? Personally I'm tired of that format.

Tommy was the best thing every last year, now it is slowly but surely turning on him as he has been given a prime time show.

Ray is pretty bad on Telly, should be retired from it or given a quiz show for teenagers.

Elmo · 20-01-2020 5:54pm

Boggles wrote: »

The Late Late Show has always been a mix since it's inception.

It's only been mixed as much in the last 20 years since Gay left. I am not saying that gay didn't bring up big issues he clearly did, but he'd have a big debate in the studio, I mean look back on the Scientology debate, I can't see that being done now, and its a long form debate.

Very rarely would you see a panel of guests on either Pat or Ryan's late late show.

I am not saying that Gay got it right all the time or that I am a huge fan of Gay Byrne as a host and its not just TLLS.

It's this obsession with depressingly sad stories.

Boggles · 20-01-2020 6:19pm

Elmo wrote: »

It's only been mixed as much in the last 20 years since Gay left

It was pretty mixed back in the day too.

He did a lot of troubles related stuff and of course the catholic elements, then a drunk actor telling funny stories.

Society has changed far more drastically than the format of the show TBF.

Maybe it is time to give someone else a crack at it, but who?

dublinman1990 · 21-01-2020 12:18am

If you're watching RTÉ One right now. They have Bibi Baskin's show on there as a tribute to Larry Gogan's death earlier this year. As Larry Gogan's passing was really sad to hear a few weeks ago. As I watching this right now; the quality of this archived programme right now looks really impressive. RTÉ should set up that proposed RTÉ Plus/RTÉ Three channel on Saorview years ago or put more full archived programmes on the RTÉ Player to make the TV licence more worthwhile.

mgn · 21-01-2020 12:27am

dublinman1990 wrote: »

If you're watching RTÉ One right now. They have Bibi Baskin's show on there as a tribute to Larry Gogan's death earlier this year. As Larry Gogan's passing was really sad to hear a few weeks ago. As I watching this right now; the quality of this archived programme right now looks really impressive. RTÉ should set up that proposed RTÉ Plus/RTÉ Three channel on Saorview years ago or put more full archived programmes on the RTÉ Player to make the TV licence more worthwhile.

True, everytime Reeling In The Years comes on i still watch it, even though i've seen them all about 20 times by now.

elperello · 21-01-2020 12:31am

dublinman1990 wrote: »

If you're watching RTÉ One right now. They have Bibi Baskin's show on there as a tribute to Larry Gogan's death earlier this year. As Larry Gogan's passing was really sad to hear a few weeks ago. As I watching this right now; the quality of this archived programme right now looks really impressive. RTÉ should set up that proposed RTÉ Plus/RTÉ Three channel on Saorview years ago or put more full archived programmes on the RTÉ Player to make the TV licence more worthwhile.

Good idea.

In the meantime the archives are here - https://www.rte.ie/archives/

They are searchable. Put your local area in a search and see what comes up.

Health Warning - you can waste a serious amount of time

Elmo · 29-01-2020 11:29am

Well their plan to move sport to RTÉ ONE is going really well.

Finn Harps match will air on RTÉ2
while all Women's and U21 rugby coverage is airing on .... RTÉ2

Here's one of their plans that needs no governmental approval yet they sit on their hands, exactly what they've accused the department of doing.

vriesmays · 29-01-2020 6:22pm

elperello wrote: »

They are searchable. Put your local area in a search and see what comes up.

I searched Wateford and got strike five years old, inner city aid, health cuts, boy murdered, infirmary to close and redundancy.

elperello · 29-01-2020 6:47pm

vriesmays wrote: »

I searched Wateford and got strike five years old, inner city aid, health cuts, boy murdered, infirmary to close and redundancy.

https://www.rte.ie/archives/category/archives/?q=waterford&filter=programmeid:30004608%20OR%20uri:*%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Farchives%2F*&page=1

I searched Waterford and got 185 results, see link.

I didn't go through them all but something good must have happened in Waterford sometime.

(only joking I really like Waterford)

Kivaro · 09-02-2020 11:54am

With RTE's focus on the 10,000 people looking for social housing every year and making it a top election issue, there is some irony that if Sinn Fein gets into power as a result of RTE then a lot of their pundits/stars/broadcasters will get hit with Sinn Fein's wealth tax.

I would imagine that the liberal left bastion at RTE is quaking at the thought of this, so we should expect to see RTE being very vocal in the coming days in their objections to Sinn Fein forming a government.

Nevin Parsnipp · 09-02-2020 5:58pm

Boggles wrote: »

The Late Late Show has always been a mix since it's inception.

I don't think that is the problem with it, unless you think that was the problem with it since the start?

Do you want another Graham Norton / Ross style pre-record, celeb comes on - tells "witty" story - flogs whatever shíté they are selling while the host belts out some "risky" commentary? Personally I'm tired of that format.

Tommy was the best thing every last year, now it is slowly but surely turning on him as he has been given a prime time show.

Ray is pretty bad on Telly, should be retired from it or given a quiz show for teenagers.

Are u on RTE management Dude....give him a quiz show for teenagers ??.

For one thing the lad is on an annual wedge north of half a freekin million ...for another he wouldn't be able to handle such a quizz.

Yeah....Dude....prime RTE management material.....

Elmo · 09-02-2020 8:38pm

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Are u on RTE management Dude....give him a quiz show for teenagers ??.

For one thing the lad is on an annual wedge north of half a freekin million ...for another he wouldn't be able to handle such a quizz.

Yeah....Dude....prime RTE management material.....

I think the poster is alluding to Blackboard Jungle which was hosted by Ray D’Arcy in the ‘90s, it was a secondary schools quiz show.

Nevin Parsnipp · 10-02-2020 10:58am

Elmo wrote: »

I think the poster is alluding to Blackboard Jungle which was hosted by Ray D’Arcy in the ‘90s, it was a secondary schools quiz show.

Thanks ..yes i was aware of that...what I was alluding to was the posters request that D'Arcy now be given a schools quiz show when the lad in on a wedge north of half a million.

Any management that pay such ludicrous salaries to useless planks deserved to sacked.

And D'arcy is just the tip of the iceberg.......

jimmynokia · 19-02-2020 10:24pm

Paywalled - https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-staff-earning-over-40000-may-face-pay-cuts-as-union-talks-continue-38972917.html

fritzelly · 19-02-2020 10:52pm

Reducing people over 40k isn't gonna make much difference unless they're planning to slash them by 20%!
And the unions what it restored a later date is incredulous - do they think they're suddenly gonna get a whole load more money

elperello · 19-02-2020 11:09pm

Just more shadow boxing.

Sooner the better they get on with a Broadcasting Commission.

Have the conversation, decide what we want and then fund it properly.

The media world is moving too fast to waste time with this sort of nonsense.

Elmo · 20-02-2020 12:51am

elperello wrote: »

Just more shadow boxing.

Sooner the better they get on with a Broadcasting Commission.

Have the conversation, decide what we want and then fund it properly.

The media world is moving too fast to waste time with this sort of nonsense.

You know that they had a broadcasting public forum only 2 years ago, don’t expect much from a new one.

elperello · 20-02-2020 12:57am

Elmo wrote: »

You know that they had a broadcasting public forum only 2 years ago, don’t expect much from a new one.

I live in hope

Kivaro · 20-02-2020 10:44am

elperello wrote: »

I live in hope

How about an independent, impartial Broadcasting Commission from outside of Ireland?
RTE are more powerful than the government, and yet nobody voted for them. RTE's governance structure is a joke and belongs to an era long gone by; yet they expect us to continue paying for the exorbitant salaries of untalented individuals and provide programming and services that the elitists in Donnybrook want us to have. They believe that they (RTE) are shaping a nation. Has anyone looked out the window to see the nation that they are shaping?

Disband or re-structure. They should be the only two options for RTE.

Brendan Bendar · 20-02-2020 10:50am

fritzelly wrote: »

Reducing people over 40k isn't gonna make much difference unless they're planning to slash them by 20%!
And the unions what it restored a later date is incredulous - do they think they're suddenly gonna get a whole load more money

The teachers did.....

Elmo · 20-02-2020 2:41pm

Kivaro wrote: »

How about an independent, impartial Broadcasting Commission from outside of Ireland?
RTE are more powerful than the government, and yet nobody voted for them. RTE's governance structure is a joke and belongs to an era long gone by; yet they expect us to continue paying for the exorbitant salaries of untalented individuals and provide programming and services that the elitists in Donnybrook want us to have. They believe that they (RTE) are shaping a nation. Has anyone looked out the window to see the nation that they are shaping?

Disband or re-structure. They should be the only two options for RTE.

The BAI should be used more but both it’s predecessors had little bite being all headed by the same man for the last 30 years

elperello · 20-02-2020 7:52pm

Kivaro wrote: »

How about an independent, impartial Broadcasting Commission from outside of Ireland?
RTE are more powerful than the government, and yet nobody voted for them. RTE's governance structure is a joke and belongs to an era long gone by; yet they expect us to continue paying for the exorbitant salaries of untalented individuals and provide programming and services that the elitists in Donnybrook want us to have. They believe that they (RTE) are shaping a nation. Has anyone looked out the window to see the nation that they are shaping?

Disband or re-structure. They should be the only two options for RTE.

Can't see how we could possibly be so craven and dysfunctional as to need to outsource such an important function.

You overestimate the power the power of RTE. It's a public broadcasting service not some secret society.

Disband is not an option we need to bite the bullet and do the business.

Shefwedfan · 22-02-2020 8:24pm

Kivaro wrote: »

How about an independent, impartial Broadcasting Commission from outside of Ireland?
RTE are more powerful than the government, and yet nobody voted for them. RTE's governance structure is a joke and belongs to an era long gone by; yet they expect us to continue paying for the exorbitant salaries of untalented individuals and provide programming and services that the elitists in Donnybrook want us to have. They believe that they (RTE) are shaping a nation. Has anyone looked out the window to see the nation that they are shaping?

Disband or re-structure. They should be the only two options for RTE.

Come on now, RTÉ power was only when Ireland had two stations and whatever they pushed out was gospel. Those days are long gone

If RTÉ has that power we would have no choice on tv license long ago, RTÉ does need to restructure but governments don’t seem to want to go after it. Even SF made no real push to go after it so don’t expect chnage anytime soon

AndyBoBandy · 01-03-2020 10:03pm

Sunday night 9pm

Nowhere Fast S01E01

RTÉ getting their moneys worth here...

smurgen · 01-03-2020 11:03pm

Real fantastic impartiality from our national broadcaster.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1234030199316107266?s=19

satguy · 02-03-2020 2:13am

The rumbles in the UK about their BBC licence fee are getting louder. If the beep falls, so too will RTE.

The D4 / FG set stick together, and are powerful enough to hold out. But FG's power is slipping, and FF and SF might feel it time to make RTE pay for past transgressions.

So if the beep licence fee goes, and FF and SF feel that FG was shown favouritism over the last 10 years, it may well be Bye Bye Licence.

Boggles · 02-03-2020 10:06am

satguy wrote: »

The rumbles in the UK about their BBC licence fee are getting louder. If the beep falls, so too will RTE.

The D4 / FG set stick together, and are powerful enough to hold out. But FG's power is slipping, and FF and SF might feel it time to make RTE pay for past transgressions.

So if the beep licence fee goes, and FF and SF feel that FG was shown favouritism over the last 10 years, it may well be Bye Bye Licence.

The BBC have a charter until 2027, Boris and his band of motley misfits will be well gone by then.

The licence fee is going nowhere in Britain until then at least.

Anyway if the Beeb is encrypted, that is less competition for RTE so it would be good news for them.

Kivaro · 02-03-2020 10:28am

satguy wrote: »

The rumbles in the UK about their BBC licence fee are getting louder. If the beep falls, so too will RTE.

The D4 / FG set stick together, and are powerful enough to hold out. But FG's power is slipping, and FF and SF might feel it time to make RTE pay for past transgressions.

So if the beep licence fee goes, and FF and SF feel that FG was shown favouritism over the last 10 years, it may well be Bye Bye Licence.

The sooner that RTE goes, the better.
Another example of the disservice that they provide to the people who pay their exorbitant wages and pensions is the disinformation that they are putting out on Covid-19.

The country needs an impartial and honest national broadcaster who can survive within their means.
RTE are not to be trusted.

Elmo · 02-03-2020 12:51pm

Boggles wrote: »

The BBC have a charter until 2027, Boris and his band of motley misfits will be well gone by then.

The licence fee is going nowhere in Britain until then at least.

Anyway if the Beeb is encrypted, that is less competition for RTE so it would be good news for them.

Not really. BBC don't sell advertising so there audience share doesn't effect RTÉ, and RTÉ misuses their slate of BBC programmes, e.g. most should be on the RTÉ player when possible as they appear on the BBC iPlayer. Though the RTÉ Player is a whole other post in itself.

Boggles · 02-03-2020 1:00pm

Elmo wrote: »

Not really. BBC don't sell advertising so there audience share doesn't effect RTÉ, and RTÉ misuses their slate of BBC programmes, e.g. most should be on the RTÉ player when possible as they appear on the BBC iPlayer. Though the RTÉ Player is a whole other post in itself.

Of course it does. IF something is on BBC and on RTE primarily I would watch it on the BBC.

The BBC currently beams in 4 billion worth of FTA content to every home in Ireland (if they want it).

Remove that and you take a pretty big player out of the Irish market.

Elmo · 02-03-2020 1:15pm

Boggles wrote: »

Of course it does. IF something is on BBC and on RTE primarily I would watch it on the BBC.

The BBC currently beams in 4 billion worth of FTA content to every home in Ireland (if they want it).

Remove that and you take a pretty big player out of the Irish market.

Currently BBC doesn't take advert revenue, if it went behind a paywall or unavailable
1. not all audience will move to RTÉ
2. Advertisers pay only a certain amount each year they make those decisions at the begin of their advert year, regardless of if its a 70% of TV viewers or 100%, BBC showing ads to Irish Audiences would be more detrimental, than BBC being unavailable.

BBC could always use their FTA commerical channels UKTV to provide more content to the market or Britbox.

As I say RTÉ have the ablity to take BBC content an put it on the RTÉ player as it becomes available on BBC iPlayer, they should be doing this if they have the rights.

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