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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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    #7322
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,296 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Ah, the nationalist card, that explains it, anyone who isn’t a fan must be xenophobic.
    No.Just morons.
    galwayllm wrote: »
    When is Rory's next outing, I need a good laugh.


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    #7323
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭rooney30


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Ah, the nationalist card, that explains it, anyone who isn’t a fan must be xenophobic.

    Not everyone who isn’t a fan, just those from south of the border


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    #7324
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    galwayllm wrote: »
    When is Rory's next outing, I need a good laugh.

    Your previous post in the golf forum:

    "Anybody but Rory...C'mon everyone else"

    Your bias is abundantly clear, and not of the constructive kind in debate.


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    #7325
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Dav010 wrote: »
    He often scores well, when the pressure is off.

    How is it anecdotal when the journalist is literally listing examples?

    He often score well when the pressure is on as well. In fact, he scored the best on average of the entire tour last year. So in summary, he often scores well?


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    #7326
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Hard to argue with that, but he would have topped a lot more if it wasn’t for the chokes.

    Chokes? Or other golfers just happened to have 4 better rounds. Remember these guys are elite golfers and there's very little between any of them in any given week.


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    #7327
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    fullstop wrote: »
    He often score well when the pressure is on as well. In fact, he scored the best on average of the entire tour last year. So in summary, he often scores well?

    He certainly did, and had some fantastic wins as well. It’s the wins that are important, I doubt Tiger or Jack mention their scoring averages, maybe they do. But that doesn’t change the fact that he also chokes, spectacularly.


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    #7328
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Your previous post in the golf forum:

    "Anybody but Rory...C'mon everyone else"

    Your bias is abundantly clear, and not of the constructive kind in debate.

    And he plays off about 20. I know who could give people more of a laugh.


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    #7329
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Dav010 wrote: »
    He certainly did, and had some fantastic wins as well. It’s the wins that are important, I doubt Tiger or Jack mention their scoring averages, maybe they do. But that doesn’t change the fact that he also chokes, spectacularly.

    Shift the goalposts, quick.


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    #7330
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭rooney30


    Dav010 wrote: »
    He certainly did, and had some fantastic wins as well. It’s the wins that are important, I doubt Tiger or Jack mention their scoring averages, maybe they do. But that doesn’t change the fact that he also chokes, spectacularly.

    Does falling out of contention on a final day constitute a “spectacular choke “ in your view ?
    I can only think of two or three what I would consider spectacular chokes in his whole career . No more than anyone else


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    #7331
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    fullstop wrote: »
    And he plays off about 20. I know who could give people more of a laugh.

    Interesting post, I doubt all posters are scratch, or even single digit golfers, but apparently higher handicaps are to be laughed at. I might have a lower handicap than you, but I wouldn’t laugh at you.


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    #7332
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Interesting post, I doubt all posters are scratch, or even single digit golfers, but apparently higher handicaps are to be laughed at. I might have a lower handicap than you, but I wouldn’t laugh at you.

    Nonsense response, as you well know. I don’t come in here purporting to be laughing at the abilities of touring professionals, just to get a rise, when they are light years ahead of any of us. But I wouldn’t expect you to comprehend the point I was making.


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    #7333
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    your sentences are very hard to read to be honest.

    We are talking about Rory here , on his thread , his issues are fairly unique, you are talking in grand generalities about performance.

    You think people use mentality in place of actual causality. But again , we are looking at Rory .

    But it is fairly clear in this case , it is the cause. That is why he gets justified flack.

    But your applying your thinking on this to an actual case where it is accurate.

    Could you tell us about these periods Jack and Tiger had a similar run.

    They're not hard to read, others seem to have grasped them perfectly fine.

    You might have found them hard to read when quoting half sentences though.

    Yes, I believe people are also too quick to blame every shortcoming of Rory's on an issue of mentality to one degree or another.

    Does it contribute? Yes of course

    Is it always the cause? No of course not but the weighting of blame is overwhelmingly disproportionately attributed to his mental game.

    Take last weekend, McIlroy shoots -3 for the round having gone 3 over through 4. This "lapse" is assigned to a faltering mentality.

    Rahm on the other hand shoots -2 for the round having gone 4 over through 5. Is this "lapse" as often attributed to a mental issue in someone like Rahm?

    Obviously Rory gets more coverage and we are discussing this on a Rory thread but even controlling for both, people are far quicker assign Rory's lapse to a break in mentality while Rahm and many others don't suffer from that type of coverage.
    The truth however is that Rahm was in a more advantageous position looking towards a win which would be more significant to his career which are variables likely to cause extra pressure.
    He loses and doesn't receive the mental critique that befalls McIlroy even though both are Top 3 players in the world.

    Although I acknowledged your points regarding the differences between the gaps in major time, what exactly do you want to know about these periods?


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    #7334
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    fullstop wrote: »
    Nonsense response, as you well know. I don’t come in here purporting to be laughing at the abilities of touring professionals, just to get a rise, when they are light years ahead of any of us. But I wouldn’t expect you to comprehend the point I was making.

    You don’t laugh at touring professionals, but you are more likely to laugh at a 20 handicapper. You literally posted that. Do you think yourself that good a golfer that you laugh at others? Unsurprisingly, prawnsambo liked your comment, personally I think it is the height of ignorance when people laugh on the golf course at others trying their best, and enjoying it. Not everyone is a gifted golfer, but you don’t laugh at them.


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    #7335
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    Dav010 wrote: »
    You don’t laugh at touring professionals, but you are more likely to laugh at a 20 handicapper. You literally posted that. Do you think yourself that good a golfer that you laugh at others? Unsurprisingly, prawnsambo liked your comment, personally I think it is the height of ignorance when people laugh on the golf course at others trying their best, and enjoying it. Not everyone is a gifted golfer, but you don’t laugh at them.

    This seems an unsurprisingly simplistic assessment of what just transpired. Galwayllm decided to descend into some very childish rhetoric which is evidently not too uncommon for him.

    Subsequently, Fullstop decides to have a bit of a laugh at his expense- in light of Galwayllm infantile behaviour- by poking him at the posters handicap.

    You in turn defend Galwayllm not because you're outraged at what FullStop actually said but because Galwayllm seems to hold a similarly bias view as yourself towards McIlroy.

    I think it's quite clear to anyone reading the thread that Fullstop would not have made such a comment had the original utterances of Galwayllm not been so infantile.

    Seems like a fair summary.


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    #7336
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Charleigh Inexpensive Electricity wrote: »

    Rahm on the other hand shoots -2 for the round having gone 4 over through 5. Is this "lapse" as often attributed to a mental issue in someone like Rahm?

    Rahm has often been criticised by commentators for his mentality and lapses in judgement. He has make a few strange decisions, but like Rorys in his early career, they are put down to youth and immaturity (not literal immaturity, but in the playing on tour sense, just in case), and if this was the John Rahm thread, no doubt there would be more posts about this, but it isn’t, it’s the Rory McIlroy thread, so saying there isn’t as much comment about other players, is odd.


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    #7337
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Charleigh Inexpensive Electricity wrote: »
    This seems an unsurprisingly simplistic assessment of what just transpired. Galwayllm decided to descend into some very childish rhetoric which is evidently not too uncommon for him.

    Subsequently, Fullstop decides to have a bit of a laugh at his expense- in light of Galwayllm infantile behaviour- by poking him at the posters handicap.

    You in turn defend Galwayllm not because you're outraged at what FullStop actually said but because Galwayllm seems to hold a similarly bias view as yourself towards McIlroy.

    I think it's quite clear to anyone reading the thread that Fullstop would not have made such a comment had the original utterances of Galwayllm not been so infantile.

    Seems like a fair summary.

    No, Mud28, McIlroy is a public figure, and one of the best players in the world, you can laugh, shout, cry, do whatever you want, but you know he occupies a different stratosphere to you in golfing terms (just to clarify Charleigh Inexpensive Electricity, I am not saying he actually lives on a different planet, in case you ask for a link). Laughing at someone who plays golf as a pass time is just rude, ignorant, and frankly, indefensible, but you liked his comment, now you are defending it.


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    #7338
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    Dav010 wrote: »
    No, Mud28, McIlroy is a public figure, and one of the best players in the world, you can laugh, shout, cry, do whatever you want, but you know he occupies a different stratosphere to you in golfing terms (just to clarify Mur28, I am not saying he actually lives on a different planet, in case you ask for a link). Laughing at someone who plays golf as a pass time is just rude, ignorant, and frankly, indefensible, but you liked his comment, now you are defending it.

    Are you this woke about every joke that is equally benign?

    The fact you would call such a benign joke indefensible and in turn decide that because I liked a subsequent post in response to you-not the actual post that outrages you so much- it is some form of approval on my part is beyond silly but again unsurprising from you.


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    #7339
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Dav010 wrote: »
    You don’t laugh at touring professionals, but you are more likely to laugh at a 20 handicapper. You literally posted that. Do you think yourself that good a golfer that you laugh at others? Unsurprisingly, prawnsambo liked your comment, personally I think it is the height of ignorance when people laugh on the golf course at others trying their best, and enjoying it. Not everyone is a gifted golfer, but you don’t laugh at them.

    Show me where I literally posted “I don’t laugh at touring professionals, but I am more likely to laugh at a 20 handicapper”. Because I literally didn’t post that, literally. Literally.
    You can try to twist it whatever way you want, but I’m sure most people can gather the point I was making. But you carry on feeling offended for someone who only ever comes in here to troll.


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    #7340
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    What have I just read! And we are back to talking about golf and let's stop bickering.


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    #7341
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭rooney30


    To avoid a repeat of the previous few pages of absolute garbage maybe it’s time for a Mcilroy fan thread and a seperate Mcilroy non fan thread ?

    I welcome debate and discussion but when lads are linking articles on neurology and the like , to validate their position the whole thing turns to farce .As mentioned earlier , at the very least , a mandatory two post rule limit per point raised , should be enforced


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    #7342
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    rooney30 wrote: »
    To avoid a repeat of the previous few pages of absolute garbage maybe it’s time for a Mcilroy fan thread and a seperate Mcilroy non fan thread ?

    I welcome debate and discussion but when lads are linking articles on neurology and the like , to validate their position the whole thing turns to farce .As mentioned earlier , at the very least , a mandatory two post rule limit per point raised , should be enforced

    I’m a Mcillroy fan, so I have no problem staying with you. Maybe you mean a thread where no negative posts are allowed?


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    #7343
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    rooney30 wrote: »
    To avoid a repeat of the previous few pages of absolute garbage maybe it’s time for a Mcilroy fan thread and a seperate Mcilroy non fan thread ?

    I welcome debate and discussion but when lads are linking articles on neurology and the like , to validate their position the whole thing turns to farce .As mentioned earlier , at the very least , a mandatory two post rule limit per point raised , should be enforced

    My bad there but difficult to make a point when people are so closed off to any opposing view.

    Subsequent posts by the opposing poster have very much validated my opinion on them so no need to perpetuate discussion with them.
    I obviously wouldn't be bothered giving them the benefit of the doubt again.

    That said, it's a fair point and a self imposed two post limit seems a good idea


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    #7344
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Us mods are happy to discuss anything via PM with any poster so let's get back to talking about golf!


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    #7345
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,114 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    There's an antipathy to people from NI in certain quarters in this country. I'm not from NI, but have many friends from there and have spent a lot of time there. It's quite obvious when you become aware of it. Some sort of warped nationalism or some such crap. Always dressed up as something else, but that's what it is imo.

    Nope, no glaring generalisations in that post at all.


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    #7346
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    And you can have the last word, move on. Thanks


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    #7347
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,296 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Nope, no glaring generalisations in that post at all.
    Speaking of generalisations, care to walk back your assertion about the 'frequent' occasions he's played himself into the top five on Sundays after being out of contention? You seem to have skipped past that one in order to have a go at me on something else.


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    #7348
    paulos53
    Registered Users Posts: 979 ✭✭✭paulos53


    Rory is not playing this week or next but could still end up World Number 1.

    Apparently if Rahm is outside the top 2 in Phoenix and Koepka is outside the top 13 in Saudi Arabia then Rory will go back to number 1.
    However it wouldn't happen this week. Bizarrely it would be a week later when all 3 are not playing any event


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    #7349
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    paulos53 wrote: »
    Rory is not playing this week or next but could still end up World Number 1.

    Apparently if Rahm is outside the top 2 in Phoenix and Koepka is outside the top 13 in Saudi Arabia then Rory will go back to number 1.
    However it wouldn't happen this week. Bizarrely it would be a week later when all 3 are not playing any event

    Does this mean that Rory has choked if he doesn't end up number one after the weekend?


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    #7350
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You know folks, if you have something that irritates you with a post being made you always have the facility to take it to PM rather than being public here and draging the thread off topic.

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    #7351
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    He will be back to #1 in the world tomorrow week, unless Rahm finishes top 2 later.


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