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Mick Murdock · 07-06-2016 07:17PM

8-10 wrote: »

Ah here! Completely believable!

Really?

Not an expert but I have no idea how much ads on a site like that convert to income whereas Newstalk has been profitable for 10+ years.

Half the guys from Balls.ie have to work for Newstalk to make a living.

I know radio doesn't pay well but surely it can't be that bad!

wnolan1992 · 07-06-2016 07:35PM

Mick Murdock wrote: »

Bloody Twitter took 7 years to turn a profit. It's hard to believe a site like that can pay more than a radio station with 100k listeners nightly.

Dave McIntyre is a bit pedestrian. They definitely need a bit of colour to replaced Parkinson.

Out of interest, where'd you get the 100k figure from? OTB's listenership hovers around the 40-50k mark in the JNLR's, which is a really good figure for that hour.

Also, it really depends on what sort of contract Parkinson was on. If he was a contributor as opposed to a host, he could have been on a fraction of what the likes of Ger Gilroy or Joe Molloy would be earning. Very possible that Joe.ie could be more steady income, better hours, more opportunities to expand his career (video work, TV work, writing, etc) while potentially getting sporadic work as a panelist on radio stations.

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

What's a typical type of gah head exactly? What's gah anyway?

Gah = A mocking word for GAA, typically used by people who have little or no interest in it, and/or people who outright resent some of the culture that surrounds GAA.

Gah-head = Really hard to define. Just that type of guy who hangs around with all "the lads" having "banter". Typical activities include standing in a circle in the middle of a road pucking a sliotar back and forth for hours on end.

Again, to be clear, there's nothing "wrong" with these people, I just have a dislike for them.

Mick Murdock · 07-06-2016 07:59PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Out of interest, where'd you get the 100k figure from? OTB's listenership hovers around the 40-50k mark in the JNLR's, which is a really good figure for that hour.

Also, it really depends on what sort of contract Parkinson was on. If he was a contributor as opposed to a host, he could have been on a fraction of what the likes of Ger Gilroy or Joe Molloy would be earning. Very possible that Joe.ie could be more steady income, better hours, more opportunities to expand his career (video work, TV work, writing, etc) while potentially getting sporadic work as a panelist on radio stations.

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Sorry. I thought 100K was a bit high but thought they were on 70-80k for some reason. My mistake.

I assumed he'd be paid as a presenter given how often he was on but fair point about the new opportunity. It may open him to things he wouldn't have been able to do while under contract at Newstalk.

foxtrot101 · 07-06-2016 08:13PM

Mick Murdock wrote: »

Really?

Not an expert but I have no idea how much ads on a site like that convert to income whereas Newstalk has been profitable for 10+ years.

Newstalk hasn't made a penny yet. It's still making a loss.

Ol' Donie · 07-06-2016 08:19PM

Jesus. 9.17pm and the entire football show has been about Martin O'Neill's joke and smugness.

Loose Women does The Football Show.

Yikes, sorry if I offended anyone by saying that.

*phew, think I got away with it*

tommyboy2222 · 07-06-2016 08:39PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Jesus. 9.17pm and the entire football show has been about Martin O'Neill's joke and smugness.

Loose Women does The Football Show.

Yikes, sorry if I offended anyone by saying that.

*phew, think I got away with it*

I'm predicting an outraged Una Mullaly article in the Irish Times before the week is out. Loike.

snotboogie · 07-06-2016 08:42PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Jesus. 9.17pm and the entire football show has been about Martin O'Neill's joke and smugness.

Loose Women does The Football Show.

Yikes, sorry if I offended anyone by saying that.

*phew, think I got away with it*

Are there at least any texts complaining about them banging on?

Ol' Donie · 07-06-2016 08:54PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Are there at least any texts complaining about them banging on?

There were in the first hour. I did something else when I tired of the conversation about MO'N being sensitive about possibly having been called smug.

PeterTheEighth · 07-06-2016 09:16PM

I may as well start the campaign now...

O'NEILL MUST GO!!!

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JoeA3 · 07-06-2016 09:22PM

John Delaney clearly couldn't care less about what MO'N said or didn't say. He's given him a new contract today. Making all this tedious debate about a throw away remark all the more tedious.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-06-2016 09:26PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Out of interest, where'd you get the 100k figure from? OTB's listenership hovers around the 40-50k mark in the JNLR's, which is a really good figure for that hour.

Also, it really depends on what sort of contract Parkinson was on. If he was a contributor as opposed to a host, he could have been on a fraction of what the likes of Ger Gilroy or Joe Molloy would be earning. Very possible that Joe.ie could be more steady income, better hours, more opportunities to expand his career (video work, TV work, writing, etc) while potentially getting sporadic work as a panelist on radio stations.

Gah = A mocking word for GAA, typically used by people who have little or no interest in it, and/or people who outright resent some of the culture that surrounds GAA.

Gah-head = Really hard to define. Just that type of guy who hangs around with all "the lads" having "banter". Typical activities include standing in a circle in the middle of a road pucking a sliotar back and forth for hours on end.

Again, to be clear, there's nothing "wrong" with these people, I just have a dislike for them.

Please keep using the term , I love it as it tells me everything I need to know about tho people who use it.

Ol' Donie · 07-06-2016 09:28PM

Haven't heard much from ol' John The Baptist lately (Thanks for everything, John!)

Where's he hiding?

ThisRegard · 07-06-2016 09:51PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Gah = A mocking word for GAA, typically used by people who have little or no interest in it, and/or people who outright resent some of the culture that surrounds GAA.

That's not correct at all, GAH is simply how people pronounce GAA, even those who play it, eg heading over to the gah club for a pint?

Ol' Donie · 07-06-2016 09:57PM

Yeah, hang on, a Gah head is just someone who's mad for the old Gah.

It's not a negative term at all!

PeterTheEighth · 08-06-2016 07:20AM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Haven't heard much from ol' John The Baptist lately (Thanks for everything, John!) Where's he hiding?

Just heard on the radio there this morning, Donie, John Delaney has a big share in a furniture company and it's in trouble. So they reckon that will be on his mind as he heads over to France today. But I'm sure John will be on the late late, with the missus, possibly in tears, during the next season.

PeterTheEighth · 08-06-2016 07:26AM

You know I was listening back to that podcast of OTB this morning. It seemed that Joe was at pains to ensure that it was referred to as the "TodayFM interview". This had me wondering if this had happened at an OTB would they have been anywhere near as critical of O'Neill. I cant imagine they would.

But given their coverage of this, I would be surprised if O'Neill ever spoke to anybody on OTB. I certainly wouldnt give them an interview.

wnolan1992 · 08-06-2016 07:32AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

That's not correct at all, GAH is simply how people pronounce GAA, even those who play it, eg heading over to the gah club for a pint?

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Yeah, hang on, a Gah head is just someone who's mad for the old Gah.

It's not a negative term at all!

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

Vast majority of the times I hear it it's negative, but that probably has more to do with my group of friends than anything else.

PeterTheEighth · 08-06-2016 07:52AM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Vast majority of the times I hear it it's negative, but that probably has more to do with my group of friends than anything else.

I would have never thought of it as being a negative term either. More of just an abbreviation instead of having to say "the G A A" every time you make a reference.

Ol' Donie · 08-06-2016 08:49AM

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

Just heard on the radio there this morning, Donie, John Delaney has a big share in a furniture company and it's in trouble. So they reckon that will be on his mind as he heads over to France today. But I'm sure John will be on the late late, with the missus, possibly in tears, during the next season.

He could run anything, that man.

Bellerstring · 08-06-2016 01:27PM

If Wooly left of his own accord, you'd have thought that he'd have given a few weeks notice, a la Ivan Yates.
Sorry to see him go.
He could start a row in an empty room, but was all the better for that.
So no more updates on his new house/kitchen/garden/dog etc

ballsymchugh · 08-06-2016 01:34PM

Bellerstring wrote: »

If Wooly left of his own accord, you'd have thought that he'd have given a few weeks notice, a la Ivan Yates.
Sorry to see him go.
He could start a row in an empty room, but was all the better for that.
So no more updates on his new house/kitchen/garden/dog etc

i've a feeling that nonsense last night would've been kicked to touch a lot sooner if he was there. daniel o'connell tried in the football show, but it was brought back up again. wooly would've been a bit more forceful on it i'd imagine.

jaysis it was a right shyte show last night.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 08-06-2016 03:27PM

Bellerstring wrote: »

If Wooly left of his own accord, you'd have thought that he'd have given a few weeks notice, a la Ivan Yates.
Sorry to see him go.
He could start a row in an empty room, but was all the better for that.
So no more updates on his new house/kitchen/garden/dog etc

Well they have put him on gardening leave so I assume he gave the months notice over the weekend

Ol' Donie · 08-06-2016 03:29PM

A month's notice the week the Euros starts.

Bet the other lads are delighted with him for that.

Loafing Oaf · 08-06-2016 03:32PM

Kind of surprised he couldn't double job, even if he had to reduce his OTB commitments. Maybe he'll still pop up occasionally as a 'guest analyst'...

wnolan1992 · 08-06-2016 03:45PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

A month's notice the week the Euros starts.

Bet the other lads are delighted with him for that.

Maybe his contract was up after the Euros and it had become clear he wasn't going to sign a new one?

Ol' Donie · 08-06-2016 03:50PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Maybe his contract was up after the Euros and it had become clear he wasn't going to sign a new one?

Maybe, but surely their plans for this busy month would have included him?

Or not, I dunno.

wnolan1992 · 08-06-2016 03:56PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Maybe, but surely their plans for this busy month would have included him?

Or not, I dunno.

Yeah, you'd think. Though it's possible they just felt his contributions over the next while wouldn't be worth it.

We'll probably never know for certain though.

styron · 08-06-2016 04:18PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Maybe, but surely their plans for this busy month would have included him?

Or not, I dunno.

Would have thought accommodation & flights are long booked. Surely easier to make him work out his notice (if any was given). Paid Newstalk Gardening Leave is more a vehicle for exercising public displeasure at behaviour deemed intolerable.

As for becoming a guest GAA analyst ... maybe on Matt Cooper in three years time.

Was the Paris venue switched to a pub because tickets failed to sell for the Culturel Irlandais?

PeterTheEighth · 08-06-2016 05:16PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Maybe his contract was up after the Euros and it had become clear he wasn't going to sign a new one?

Maybe Off The Ball took some of their own advice and didnt offer him a new contract before the Euros.

Mick Murdock · 08-06-2016 06:59PM

Doesn't seem like it was amicable whatever happened. Wooly was a change from the nicey nice approach of everybody else. Show badly needs a contrarian to take them up on the sh*te like last night.

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