Dermot & Dave on Today Fm

IUA14 · 12-05-2016 06:22PM

Have to say I did not like them at all when they took over and had not listened to the slot consistently since Foley left as did not enjoy KC. I occasionally caught them when they were on 98FM and was not a fan, but they have grown on me. I would agree they can be annoying at times but they have mostly won me over.

mikeym · 13-05-2016 05:00PM

Dermo and Dave are going to the Euros

ButtersSuki · 13-05-2016 05:39PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Yeah, last Thursdays Say Stuff was the best in a while.

Christopher Walken in Clondalkin was outstanding

The Walken impression is poor IMO.

If you want a good Walken impression search for Jay Mohr's.

Jack Killian · 13-05-2016 05:41PM

gimmick wrote: »

Today FM is the agreed upon station for the office, so just have to put up with it.

Could be far worse; the Jeremy Kyle Niall Boylan show is on at the same time.

I'd pity you at 4pm though, when you're missing out on GO'C and enduring LD.

Synode · 13-05-2016 06:19PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

The Walken impression is poor IMO.

If you want a good Walken impression search for Jay Mohr's.

You have to be saying this because you don't like the show. Because the impression is absolutely brilliant

ButtersSuki · 13-05-2016 07:07PM

Synode wrote: »

You have to be saying this because you don't like the show. Because the impression is absolutely brilliant

No. I'm saying it because it's not brilliant IMO. You think it's brilliant, I don't. It's not awful, but it sounds like a man doing a Christopher Walken impression, rather than it sounding like Christopher Walken.

I give you Jay Mohr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vBir-SaU6A

Go to 1:55 for the magic. That's not even the best I've seen him do it, but what's great about that is he does an impression of someone else (Kevin Pollak from The Usual Suspects) doing the impression.

If you're not familiar with Mohr, he was in Jerry Maguire and a few other movies. His crowning glory was a show called "Action!" - truly one of the best comedies ever and way, way, way ahead of its time in terms of subject matter and on screen crudeness. It pushed more than one envelope!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206467/

Buford T. Justice XIX · 13-05-2016 07:48PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

The Walken impression is poor IMO.

If you want a good Walken impression search for Jay Mohr's.

I think it was the context of Walken living in a flat above a couple of noisemakers in Clondalkin while polishing a shotgun that made it so funny.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 13-05-2016 07:51PM

Every time I hear the song about Eurovision I nearly crash the van its very good

Synode · 13-05-2016 08:37PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Jay Mohr

Meh. As Buford said above, it was about the situation more than anything. But I do think it's a good impression too

ButtersSuki · 13-05-2016 10:52PM

Synode wrote: »

Meh. As Buford said above, it was about the situation more than anything. But I do think it's a good impression too

Meh yourself. Let's separate the impression from the material then. You can prefer the D&D material or sketches - that's totally subjective and if you prefer that's perfectly fine as its your opinion, but Mohr's impression is better.

Jack Killian · 14-05-2016 01:25AM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Meh yourself. Let's separate the impression from the material then. You can prefer the D&D material or sketches - that's totally subjective and if you prefer that's perfectly fine as its your opinion, but Mohr's impression is better.

Not sure how it could be if his impression is an impression of someone else doing an impression ?

Surely if the impression was that accurate then the middleman wouldn't be noticeable ?

ButtersSuki · 14-05-2016 06:22AM

Jack Killian wrote: »

Not sure how it could be if his impression is an impression of someone else doing an impression ?

Surely if the impression was that accurate then the middleman wouldn't be noticeable ?

Do you really need me to explain that to you? Seriously? Did you watch the clip?

He does his own "version" (let's call it that), then he does Pollak's to highlight the subtle differences in style, nuance, structure, cadence etc. Both "versions" sound like Walken, but both are different. The skill is being able to do different styles and yet keeping them undeniably sounding like Walken.

I'm actually sorry I posted now.

ButtersSuki · 14-05-2016 06:36AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I think it was the context of Walken living in a flat above a couple of noisemakers in Clondalkin while polishing a shotgun that made it so funny.

Then you're surely referring to the material or the sketch rather than the impression per se?

There's impressions that sound exactly or very like the person who's being imitated.

And there's impressions that take an element of that person's personality/speech/gait (an impression doesn't have to include voice - not great for radio admittedly!) etc. and that becomes the focal point of the impression through exaggerating it or highlighting it in some way.

The quality of the material or script they work with after the above usually determines how funny the final result is.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 14-05-2016 11:07AM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Then you're surely referring to the material or the sketch rather than the impression per se?

There's impressions that sound exactly or very like the person who's being imitated.

And there's impressions that take an element of that person's personality/speech/gait (an impression doesn't have to include voice - not great for radio admittedly!) etc. and that becomes the focal point of the impression through exaggerating it or highlighting it in some way.

The quality of the material or script they work with after the above usually determines how funny the final result is.

Jaysus, you're overthinking the whole show.

You didn't enjoy it, fine, it's your prerogative.

Some of us did, and that's grand too.

ButtersSuki · 14-05-2016 11:25AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Jaysus, you're overthinking the whole show.

You didn't enjoy it, fine, it's your prerogative.

Some of us did, and that's grand too.

I totally agree that's fine if you liked it and I didn't. I believe we're each entitled to our opinions (some people apparently think Mrs. Brown's Boys is funny), but I was told:

You have to be saying this because you don't like the show. Because the impression is absolutely brilliant

I was replying to that. I don't think the impression was "brilliant". I equally don't think the sketch was brilliant, but I was told I had to be saying that because I don't like the show - really? I can't decide for myself what I like and don't like?

I threw in the Mohr video to show what I consider to be a brilliant (in fact the best) Walken impression. Then I was told it wasn't the impression per se but the sketch as it was "Walken in Clondalkin". Talk about moving the goalposts.

Chip Whitley · 14-05-2016 12:09PM

I love Dermot and Dave, have done since their last few years on 98... BUT I also love a good impression and Dermot is mostly poor at them. His impression material is good, the songs they write are good, his improv is excellent but the impressions themselves are lacking. Which is one of the reasons I'm sure Mario Rosenstock didn't object to them using impressions on their show as that's his schtick on Today FM.

As said above Jay Mohr and Kevin Pollak are the premier Walken impressionists along with Kevin Spacey.

colinod0806 · 02-06-2016 06:57PM

The lads can usually do no wrong in my eyes but that song for the Euros is terrible. It sounds like something from Damo and Ivor, they're even putting on Dublin accents ffs.

Say stuff with Joe Rooney was excellent though.

Puibo · 02-06-2016 07:44PM

Dermot is a one trick pony. His one trick being, awful impersonations. There should only be one bad impersonator per radio station, instead today fm has 3. In no particular order

1. Dermot
2. Mario
3. Paul McClune

The sidekick Dave always feels compelled to laugh at the terrible jokes being churned out by the second from the other twit.

colinod0806 · 02-06-2016 08:00PM

Puibo wrote: »

Dermot is a one trick pony. His one trick being, awful impersonations.

This is just wrong and most likely the opinion of someone who hasn't listened to the show much. If he was a one trick pony, which he isn't, surely his trick would be his improv.

johnire · 02-06-2016 10:07PM

I like them but I agree that song is dreadful. They sound like Dustin at the start and they've just tried too hard to squeeze everything into the song and it goes on and on and on.

colinod0806 wrote: »

The lads can usually do no wrong in my eyes but that song for the Euros is terrible. It sounds like something from Damo and Ivor, they're even putting on Dublin accents ffs.

Say stuff with Joe Rooney was excellent though.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 02-06-2016 10:09PM

Puibo wrote: »

Dermot is a one trick pony. His one trick being, awful impersonations. There should only be one bad impersonator per radio station, instead today fm has 3. In no particular order

1. Dermot
2. Mario
3. Paul McClune

The sidekick Dave always feels compelled to laugh at the terrible jokes being churned out by the second from the other twit.

Ah go away outta that!! Dermot laughs at himself doing impressions no one thinks they are perfect! Dave laughs at him (as do I) as most of the stuff is very funny! Robbie Keane in a limousine is a piss take not a replacement for ole ole,it shouldn't be taken too seriously! Even all the players laughed when they heard it! It's not like they expect a Grammy!

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 02-06-2016 10:11PM

The song is so terrible people only have it at number 3 in the charts!! Tut tut

eiresandra · 02-06-2016 11:32PM

MrMac84 wrote: »

The song is so terrible people only have it at number 3 in the charts!! Tut tut

Important to note it's being sold at half the price of everything else in the chart. Nonetheless, the show's fans will obviously support it.

I think it's an awful song. The young lads on Spin did a much better job.

Jack Killian · 02-06-2016 11:43PM

eiresandra wrote: »

Important to note it's being sold at half the price of everything else in the chart. Nonetheless, the show's fans will obviously support it.

I think it's an awful song. The young lads on Spin did a much better job.

You'd have had to endure Spin in order to hear theirs, though! :eek:

Chip Whitley · 02-06-2016 11:56PM

Wouldn't like the song myself, but 'Say Stuff' had me in hysterics earlier!
A great one today so it was!

Mr.Prodston · 03-06-2016 03:45PM

I violently swore to myself the first time I heard the Euro song this week.....but it's grown on me to the point of where I was singing it without even realising

I'm glad though because I really do enjoy them!

ThisRegard · 03-06-2016 04:31PM

Dunno, I think Dermot is better than Rosenstock. I get a good laugh out of their show anyway.

Canadel · 03-06-2016 04:56PM

They work well together. Some of it is hit and miss but they come across as decent, genuine guys in general.

mikeym · 03-06-2016 07:03PM

Sounds like a Damo and Ivor song alright.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 03-06-2016 07:04PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

Dunno, I think Dermot is better than Rosenstock. I get a good laugh out of their show anyway.

Yeah, I was a huge fan of Mario till the last 2 years or so. I find his stuff really tired now to the point of nearly knowing what he's going to parody next.

Dermot & Dave on Today Fm

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