Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

StringerBell · 20-05-2016 11:38AM

Nice repair the image PR piece it looks like, good for both sides. Get back to work!

Richard tea · 20-05-2016 12:27PM

StringerBell wrote: »

Nice repair the image PR piece it looks like, good for both sides. Get back to work!

Absolutely. Megreggor is the best thing to happen to the world of MMA in the last while. Hope they announce a fight soon

Devastator · 20-05-2016 12:41PM

Paddy Pimblett wasn't able to get a ticket for the Europa league final on Wednesday but his mate did and brought along this banner :pac:

https://twitter.com/FIGHTLAND/status/733392326098194434

flangemeistro · 20-05-2016 01:18PM

Am I on my own here thinking that McGregor will most definitely still be on the 200 card?
They can't afford not to have him on it, I said it from day one on Twitter when they pulled him that it's just a case of smoke and mirrors that Dana looks like he's still calling the shots by pulling McGregor from the card and McGregor gets to avoid all the pressers that he didn't want to do.
I still 100% reckon that he's gonna be called up around 3 weeks out.
I just can't figure out whether it's gonna be Jones or Cormier that's pulled with an injury with McGregor v Diaz replacing it or whether Aldo or Edgar will fall out and McGregor will replace one of them to create a title bout?
If bookies are still giving odds on McGregor fighting at UFC 200 it's worth a tenner.

Clarebelly · 20-05-2016 01:29PM

Devastator wrote: »

Paddy Pimblett wasn't able to get a ticket for the Europa league final on Wednesday but his mate did and brought along this banner :pac:

I guess you can dere-lick my balls cap-E-tan

jimmii · 20-05-2016 01:33PM

flangemeistro wrote: »

Am I on my own here thinking that McGregor will most definitely still be on the 200 card?
They can't afford not to have him on it, I said it from day one on Twitter when they pulled him that it's just a case of smoke and mirrors that Dana looks like he's still calling the shots by pulling McGregor from the card and McGregor gets to avoid all the pressers that he didn't want to do.
I still 100% reckon that he's gonna be called up around 3 weeks out.
I just can't figure out whether it's gonna be Jones or Cormier that's pulled with an injury with McGregor v Diaz replacing it or whether Aldo or Edgar will fall out and McGregor will replace one of them to create a title bout?
If bookies are still giving odds on McGregor fighting at UFC 200 it's worth a tenner.

If you're 100% sure then I am happy to lay you 1/10 on him fighting thats 10% free money for you! It would be fun to see purely for the fan meltdown that would happen!

JJayoo · 20-05-2016 01:38PM

Conor is in camp so there is still a possibility that if a fighter pulled out and if it suited conor he could jump in to save the day, achieve hero status. But UFC 200 doesn't need him, plenty of big names on board to sell the card, and Conor can sell an entire card on his own so, financially speaking, makes more sense to have him on a separate card.

Wrongway1985 · 20-05-2016 01:42PM

flangemeistro wrote: »

Am I on my own here thinking that McGregor will most definitely still be on the 200 card?
They can't afford not to have him on it

I would hope you're on yer own anyway

Why can't they afford it you'd need at least $1,300 to grab any of face value tickets that are remaining. The card is stacked at 200, provided it stays intact it does over 1m buys.

196 main and co main aside wasn't exactly the most spectacular line up of bouts they can save the McG money hand and play it at 202 most likely.

Lukker- · 20-05-2016 01:45PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Conor is in camp so there is still a possibility that if a fighter pulled out and if it suited conor he could jump in to save the day, achieve hero status. But UFC 200 doesn't need him, plenty of big names on board to sell the card, and Conor can sell an entire card on his own so, financially speaking, makes more sense to have him on a separate card.

I reckon him and Diaz get announced for UFC 202 in the next month so even if there was an injury Dana wouldn't let him fight.

Unless one of Jones or Cormier gets injured, then you could possibly see the main events of 200 and 202 swapped.

Hopefully the meeting patched up the differences between them, would be a shame if they didn't let him fight on UFC 205 in MSG.

Devastator · 20-05-2016 01:55PM

flangemeistro wrote: »

If bookies are still giving odds on McGregor fighting at UFC 200 it's worth a tenner.

Absolutely correct!!!!! Sure its common knowledge bookies have insider info on UFC events! Don't miss out though, some bookies are also offering odds on Conor Vs Frankie already for later in the year so make sure you double up your UFC200 bet with Frankie to beat Aldo!

Dtp1979 · 20-05-2016 02:09PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Conor is in camp so there is still a possibility that if a fighter pulled out and if it suited conor he could jump in to save the day, achieve hero status.

Dude SBG don't do camps

ASOT · 20-05-2016 03:09PM

TMZ reporting Floyd has offered McGregor 50m to fight.....

Myrddin · 20-05-2016 03:15PM

ASOT wrote: »

TMZ reporting Floyd has offered McGregor 50m to fight.....

I'm pretty tired of all this Mayweather guff, but if somehow this were true, he'd be crazy to turn it down. From 50 gee's to 50 me'ees

Devastator · 20-05-2016 03:18PM

ASOT wrote: »

TMZ reporting Floyd has offered McGregor 50m to fight.....

TMZ.....sums it up really. They were actually described as a "reputable MMA source" by the punditarena article earlier, which will be the last time I read an article from that site. I'm not sure how having your paps stand outside a popular Vegas restaurant in which they sometimes get a 1 line soundbite off DW proves them as a reputable mma source.

Mellor · 20-05-2016 03:35PM

flangemeistro wrote: »

Am I on my own here thinking that McGregor will most definitely still be on the 200 card?
They can't afford not to have him on it,.

Why can't they afford to have him on it?
They probably lose money my having him on it

newbbieb · 20-05-2016 03:38PM

Myrddin wrote: »

I'm pretty tired of all this Mayweather guff, but if somehow this were true, he'd be crazy to turn it down. From 50 gee's to 50 me'ees

He would have to offer the Dana the 50 million,offering Conor doesn't mean a thing given his contract situation.

WarZ · 20-05-2016 07:05PM

Now that Ido Portal has been booted out of the coaching team I am just wondering what people think McGregor's chances against Nate Diaz will be for the rematch?

A McGregor minus Ido Portal is a whole different prospect IMO.

raze_them_all_ · 20-05-2016 08:18PM

WarZ wrote: »

Now that Ido Portal has been booted out of the coaching team I am just wondering what people think McGregor's chances against Nate Diaz will be for the rematch?

A McGregor minus Ido Portal is a whole different prospect IMO.

No, it wont, Same result. Nate wins this.

Depp · 20-05-2016 08:41PM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

No, it wont, Same result. Nate wins this.

I think McGregor wins the rematch but its nothing to do with portal, lost the first cause he underestimated nate, he was complacent and his cardio wasnt right, he makes the adjustments and works on his boxing he takes it

JustTheOne · 20-05-2016 08:43PM

I can see him attacking the body the same way he done in the mendes fight.

It's the only way I can see him stopping nate.

Depp · 20-05-2016 08:47PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

I can see him attacking the body the same way he done in the mendes fight.

It's the only way I can see him stopping nate.

yeah would be a good way of going about it had success early with it last time before he decided he could ko him with one punch

WarZ · 20-05-2016 08:51PM

Depp wrote: »

I think McGregor wins the rematch but its nothing to do with portal, lost the first cause he underestimated nate, he was complacent and his cardio wasnt right, he makes the adjustments and works on his boxing he takes it

So basically less time playing touch butt in the park and more time spent on cardio and boxing?

Yeah nothing to do with Ido Portal being his strength and conditioning coach and taking up huge swathes of his training time.

After all in Ido's own words after the Aldo fight:
"One of those decisions was to start a more diverse movement approach – a long time ago by himself and recently with my help.Being able to put that knockout left hand in the right rhythm, timing and position is something I’ve worked with him in the two weeks leading up to the fight via footwork pattern and drills
There is a reason why fighters of Conor Mcgregor and Gunnar Nelson’s caliber are choosing that approach and things are changing in MMA and in other sports. I’ve been working with NFL players, NBA players, NHL players, professional tennis, swimmers, track and field athletes and more and will continue to show the superiority of this approach to the traditional division between technical work and strength and conditioning that in my eyes leaves SO MUCH out.

If Conor lost – I would be the man to take the blame as I am the new factor in the equation and doing things differently. I can take that and as they say – ‘if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen’ but… He won"

Depp · 20-05-2016 08:56PM

WarZ wrote: »

So basically less time playing touch butt in the park and more time spent on cardio and boxing?

Yeah nothing to do with Ido Portal being his strength and conditioning coach and taking up huge swathes of his training time.

After all in Ido's own words after the Aldo fight:
"One of those decisions was to start a more diverse movement approach – a long time ago by himself and recently with my help.Being able to put that knockout left hand in the right rhythm, timing and position is something I’ve worked with him in the two weeks leading up to the fight via footwork pattern and drills
There is a reason why fighters of Conor Mcgregor and Gunnar Nelson’s caliber are choosing that approach and things are changing in MMA and in other sports. I’ve been working with NFL players, NBA players, NHL players, professional tennis, swimmers, track and field athletes and more and will continue to show the superiority of this approach to the traditional division between technical work and strength and conditioning that in my eyes leaves SO MUCH out.

If Conor lost – I would be the man to take the blame as I am the new factor in the equation and doing things differently. I can take that and as they say – ‘if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen’ but… He won"

Ido wasnt the problem, he was only there for the last week or two before camp to keep him loose, all the hard work should be done before then! also i reckon the two boys 'falling out' is a bit overblown, he was never around for the whole camp in the past and hes not this time

Tazzimus · 20-05-2016 09:00PM

WarZ wrote: »

So basically less time playing touch butt in the park and more time spent on cardio and boxing?

Yeah nothing to do with Ido Portal being his strength and conditioning coach and taking up huge swathes of his training time.

After all in Ido's own words after the Aldo fight:
"One of those decisions was to start a more diverse movement approach – a long time ago by himself and recently with my help.Being able to put that knockout left hand in the right rhythm, timing and position is something I’ve worked with him in the two weeks leading up to the fight via footwork pattern and drills
There is a reason why fighters of Conor Mcgregor and Gunnar Nelson’s caliber are choosing that approach and things are changing in MMA and in other sports. I’ve been working with NFL players, NBA players, NHL players, professional tennis, swimmers, track and field athletes and more and will continue to show the superiority of this approach to the traditional division between technical work and strength and conditioning that in my eyes leaves SO MUCH out.

If Conor lost – I would be the man to take the blame as I am the new factor in the equation and doing things differently. I can take that and as they say – ‘if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen’ but… He won"

Seriously......

WarZ · 20-05-2016 09:06PM

Depp wrote: »

Ido wasnt the problem, he was only there for the last week or two before camp to keep him loose, all the hard work should be done before then! also i reckon the two boys 'falling out' is a bit overblown, he was never around for the whole camp in the past and hes not this time

Really he wasn't? The top sports scientist in the world disagrees...

But it was even before the fight that alarm bells were ringing for Edgley, who says: "McGregor’s cardio isn’t great. You saw that against (Chad) Mendes."
He noticed one facet of McGregor's pre-fight preparations with Ido Portal filmed on UFC Embedded which he believes may have hindered his performance in the Octagon

"All the time McGregor’s in a park doing movement stuff with Ido Portal, which is awesome. But when he’s doing ring muscle-ups with him and working on the eccentric phase, I’m thinking ‘that’s over-training waiting to happen'.
"You’re using all your adaptive energy trying to master ring muscle-ups. That entire time you’ve got Nate Diaz who’s got the V02 of a Kenyan runner with mad BJJ skills.
"Then what happens? It look him 10 or 20 seconds when he was on the mat for him to pass his guard, take his back, and choke him out."

Edgley says this use of adaptive energy on techniques that won't necessarily add an advantage in the fight is a crucial point.

"In terms of looking at someone’s adaptive energy, Dr Yuri Verkhoshansky says you’ve got a certain amount of adaptive energy during the day – where do you spend that adaptive energy?
"When you look at someone like McGregor who’s going up against Nate Diaz, you need to expend a lot of that just improving your V02."

In simple terms, V02 is the amount of oxygen your body can utilise. Why is this important?
Because muscle needs oxygen to perform. But when you put on more size, like McGregor did to fight at welterweight, that extra muscle needs more oxygen - or you will gas. Here's a more in-depth explanation.
This played a crucial factor in McGregor's first defeat to Diaz. The Stockton native, who throws a high volume of 'pitter patter' punches before going in for the kill, used his energy intelligently.

And McGregor himself booted Ido Portal. Portal himself has said he should cop a lot of the blame if things go wrong because he was changing McGregor's approach so much.

Depp · 20-05-2016 10:20PM

yeah id agree the muscle ups and that stuff were a bad call but I dont reckon portal did as much harm as some people say, he was part of the problem but its not like portal goes and he wins, theres alot of other things need to change like cardio and his approach to the fight, which I think hes trying with the longer more focussed training camp and all the boxing work lately, the reason mcgregor lost to diaz was because he underestimated him and made a balls of the weight adjustment, not cause ido portal made him do muscle ups

themandan6611 · 20-05-2016 10:34PM

Just maybe McGregor must take some responsibility for his loss, it was not due to Kavanagh, Ido, Roddy, lack of a black belt etc etc

Subcomandante Marcos · 20-05-2016 10:38PM

themandan6611 wrote: »

Just maybe McGregor must take some responsibility for his loss, it was not due to Kavanagh, Ido, Roddy, lack of a black belt etc etc

Or we could just accept that he got out classed by a superior fighter and move on.

RonanP77 · 20-05-2016 10:41PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

Or we could just accept that he got out classed by a superior fighter and move on.

We could if he had actually faced a superior fighter. Diaz is good but nothing special. If McGregor prepares right for a rematch and fights intelligently, he should win it.

Depp · 20-05-2016 10:48PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Or we could just accept that he got out classed by a superior fighter and move on.

not like diaz is some 40-0 undefeated beast, hes a savage fighter and he was superior on the night, but mcgregor got cocky and prepared wrong, diaz is very beatable and if mcgregor prepares right and fights smart he wins

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