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Too much trash talk against Christianity

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  • #302
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,893 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    100cent wrote: »
    Ho could anyone even attempt to psycho-analyse the eternal, ever present Lord?

    He sure has murdered a lot of innocent people over the years though.


  • #303
    luftmensch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    But if "god" loves us all unconditionally then there wouldn't be a hell would there because he would take everyone into his magical Kingdom regardless of how they lived their lives.

    But isn't it taught that you must pray to this "god" and beg his forgiveness and live by his rules?

    "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go by it.
    "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it" (Matthew 7;13-14)

    Many Christians think this verse implies that the majority of mankind is not destined for heaven. Now, since there is only one alternative, what's that tell us about God's "unconditional love"?


  • #304
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    100cent wrote: »
    Ho could anyone even attempt to psycho-analyse the eternal, ever present Lord?

    He's always around, so apparently it shouldn't be a problem.

    Its not wrong to question an 'authority figure'...unless you live in some sort of dictatorship. Why do you see it as wrong to question your god?

    Are you suggesting murdering 250k people is some sort of "plan" for good?


  • #305
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,253 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    frag420 wrote: »
    Well it was Christianity that invented Satanism after all, good work there!!


    ?
    Satan exists within Islam as well, and Judaism which predated Christianity.


  • #306
    Marhay70
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    What always puzzles me. God is omniscient and omnipotent right? Why then did he see fit to send His son on earth to right all the wrongs and suffer agonising death, what was the point?
    Now I know those committed Christians among you will say it was necessary to prove his commitment and undying love and I've no doubt you sincerely believe that but it begs the question Why?
    Could God not have used his powers in a different way, could he not have appeared in person to strategic assemblies, just as he did to Abraham, Moses, David and all those other guys he was so chummy with and say OK, this is the way it's going to be. Why take the barbaric option? And to top it all, the mission was a failure, Jesus was supposed to be the Messiah, the Messiah was supposed to be the deliverer of the Jews, the raiser of the temple, the guy who would bring the Jews to their rightful place at the top of the pecking order. He did none of this.
    Strikes me God would have been better to just hang on for a couple of millennia and open a Twitter or Facebook account to get the message across.
    Would have saved a lot of bother.


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  • #307
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    Cabaal wrote: »
    He's always around, so apparently it shouldn't be a problem.

    Its not wrong to question an 'authority figure'...unless you live in some sort of dictatorship. Why do you see it as wrong to question your god?

    Are you suggesting murdering 250k people is some sort of "plan" for good?

    So many questions.

    Maybe go to your local Church. Sit in silence with The Lord. Ask him to forgive you and take you into his merciful embrace.


  • #308
    Lyrical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Lyrical


    psheaser wrote: »
    Atheists must live terribly boring miserable hopeless lives.

    I'd argue that the near 200 posts on this thread today nitpicking each others points haven't exactly been fulfilling for all concerned,but that's none of my business.


  • #309
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,893 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    100cent wrote: »
    So many questions.

    Maybe go to your local Church. Sit in silence with The Lord. Ask him to forgive you and take you into his merciful embrace.

    Forgive for what? Why would we need his "forgivness" sure doesn't he love us unconditionally?


  • #310
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    100cent wrote: »
    So many questions.

    Maybe go to your local Church. Sit in silence with The Lord. Ask him to forgive you and take you into his merciful embrace.

    You think so little of yourself that you ask for forgiveness when you go to church?

    I've nothing to ask anyone for forgiveness for, I'm a decent human being, I value equality, I'm nice to animals, I see women as equal to me (something the catholic church might want to do) etc

    What you're asking me to do is like asking me to talk to the Easter bunny and claiming it'll answer my questions or like me suggesting you should open your heart and let the FSM inside.

    In short, the suggestion as a solution is not a very helpful one.


  • #311
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Solodeogloria is a shining example of Christianity. Tolerant, level-headed, willing to listen to and discuss criticism of her/his faith, all while remaining friendly and also loyal to her/his god.


    As for Christianity being bashed on boards - the examples given by OP aren't examples of Christianity being bashed. They're examples of a discussion on the desire for secularism in society. Nothing wrong with that.

    Islam gets bashed an awful lot on boards, as do atheists. Christianity isn't special and isn't immune from criticism.


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  • #312
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    Cabaal wrote: »
    You think so little of yourself that you ask for forgiveness when you go to church?

    I've nothing to ask anyone for forgiveness for, I'm a decent human being, I value equality, I'm nice to animals, I see women as equal to me (something the catholic church might want to do) etc

    What you're asking me to do is like asking me to talk to the Easter bunny and claiming it'll answer my questions or like me suggesting you should open your heart and let the FSM inside. Or perhaps Thor could help you out? :confused:

    I am nothing more than an unworthy sinner. But I strive to improve on a daily basis and am awe struck by the love of Our Lord.


  • #313
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Penny Tration wrote: »
    Solodeogloria is a shining example of Christianity. Tolerant, level-headed, willing to listen to and discuss criticism of her/his faith, all while remaining friendly and also loyal to her/his god.

    I honestly don't agree with everything Solodeogloria says but as christian posters go on boards.ie I've honestly thanked more of Solodeogloria's posts in agreement then anyone else.


  • #314
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I don't agree with everything either, but I think she/he takes time to listen to and understand the opinions and criticisms of others. :)


  • #315
    luftmensch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    100cent wrote: »
    Ho could anyone even attempt to psycho-analyse the eternal, ever present Lord?

    So logically, he was "present" to witness every single child molestation carried out by teacher's of his, and christs will and yet he did nothing to intervene. Was he unable? Did he not care?


  • #316
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    luftmensch wrote: »
    So logically, he was "present" to witness every single child molestation carried out by teacher's of his, and christs will and yet he did nothing to intervene. Was he unable? Did he not care?

    Ask him through prayer.

    Go to him in humility, open yourself to his eternal love and mercy.


  • #317
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    100cent wrote: »
    I am nothing more than an unworthy sinner. But I strive to improve on a daily basis and am awe struck by the love of Our Lord.

    You seem to have a very low opinion of yourself. I find that quite sad.


  • #318
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Ask him through prayer.

    Go to him in humility, open yourself to his eternal love and mercy.

    Why would an abuse victim need to go anywhere in humility?


  • #319
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    Why would an abuse victim need to go anywhere in humility?

    Before the Almighty we should all approach with humility.


  • #320
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Before the Almighty we should all approach with humility.

    :rolleyes: even children who've been raped must approach with humility. Doesn't sound very loving and merciful.


  • #321
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Is that supposed to be your idea of a refutation? We don't believe in your imaginary friend that you use to mock and bash people who don't buy into your cult, either.

    You misread what I said. This so called religion is a satirical tool, no one in it believes in the spaghetti monster as opposed to a real religion where people actually believe in it. At least that clears things.


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  • #322
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    3000 "gods" only difference between you and me is I don't believe in any of them but you don't believe in 2,999 of them.

    Why is your "god" the right one? What about all of the others and what can you say/do to disprove that they don't exist?

    Very easy, one word, hyperdimensionalism.


  • #323
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    :rolleyes: even children who've been raped must approach with humility. Doesn't sound very loving and merciful.

    Everyone. Is that clear enough for you?


  • #324
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Atheists can't explain basic science, like the first and second laws of thermodynamics, or causality. They believe that the universe created itself out of nothing, despite that all systems of energy are finite. It's the equivalent of believing that dominoes will stand up in a row and then miraculously knock themselves over, without an external catalyst. Completely irrational. ;)


  • #325
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Blackgator wrote: »
    Christians and Christianity deserve everything they get. As do Jews, Muslims, hindus and every other religion.

    You can believe whatever you want, but dont expect people not to make fun of you on here when you start talking about your imaginary friends.

    If I came on here talking about scientology, fairys, leprechauns or other nonsense, I'd expect people to take the mick. So why should Christianity be given any special treatment. GROW UP and stop arguing over who's magic friend is best.

    Off topic and not what we were discussing.


  • #326
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    luftmensch wrote: »
    "judge not, that you be judged.
    "for with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
    "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?" (Matthew 7;1-3)

    Careful now, don't wanna to piss off your god do you?

    John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. :)


  • #327
    luftmensch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    love humanity wrote: »
    Atheists can't explain basic science, like the first and second laws of thermodynamics, or causality. They believe that the universe created itself out of nothing, despite that all systems of energy are finite. It's the equivalent of believing that dominoes will stand up in a row and then miraculously knock themselves over, without an external catalyst. Completely irrational. ;)

    Did god create itself out of nothing?


  • #328
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,071 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    MOD NOTE

    A reminder that swearing is against the charter.

    It would also be appreciated if people could drop the 'imaginary friend' usage. This is the Christianity forum and Christians shouldn't have to endure the belittling of their faith.

    Also, if people wish to discuss creationism then please use the super-thread for that discussion.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #329
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    luftmensch wrote: »
    Did god create itself out of nothing?

    God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn’t need a cause.


  • #330
    learn_more
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    alma73 wrote: »
    Boards.ie is pretty much Atheist from what I gathered. I see there isn't even a Forum for the Largest Religion in Ireland. (those Catholic Rebels of 1916 who said the Rosary daily would be turning in their graves.)

    What are those Catholic Rebels doing in their graves...I understood you think they are in heaven?


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  • #331
    Blackgator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Blackgator


    Delirium wrote:
    It would also be appreciated if people could drop the 'imaginary friend' usage. This is the Christianity forum and Christians shouldn't have to endure the belittling of their faith.


    What about the belittling of peoples football teams, political leanings, favorite band? That's all okay, but don't have a go at religion, that's sacred. Utter nonsense. If their fault is so fragile that it can't stand up to a little criticism then that's something they need to have a look at.

    Flying spaghetti monsters on the other hand, they deserve respect from all and should be worshipped without question.


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